CIVIVI BUTTON LOCK ELEMENTUM REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- CIVIVI KNIVES ELEMENTUM BUTTON LOCK REVIEW, ITS LIKE A BUDGET GRAVITY KNIFE. BUT IT LOCKS OPEN AND CLOSED SO ITS NOT REALLY. YOU CAN USE MOMENTUM OR GRAVITY TO OPEN IT WHILE YOU PUSH THE BUTTON
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Fantastic video. Really appreciate the well thought presentation. There will be a limited release of the Button Lock Elementum on April 19th. They will go quick but there are more in production right now that will also be available soon. Keep up the great work!
Thank you!!!
How does one get on the list?
Show up when they drop, you might ne able to get an email if you request but id try to purchase one on the day nice and early
@@NeevesKnives Thank you Jared.
When are the fixed blade elementums coming out?
Almost two years later this is still my favorite knife to carry. Strong and solid but thin. The detail and milling on the metal button is sick too. Just a great knife all around. And razor sharp with that deep hollow-grind.
I have all of the standard bladed 14c28n ones just for looking at them and customized myself a stonewashed one with the g10 scales as a user. This knife really is a masterpiece!
@@johndemtopics1377 it’s so nice mine still reminds me of a Solidworks render in real life.. that blade machining is absolutely top-notch.
Ever looked at the button under a magnifier and good lighting? Surprised me just how much detail is on the tread.. like they went full-on badass when designing it. I prefer it over a $150 zdp189 Endura I bought.. by quite a big margin actually.
I bought the all black and I LOVE this knife! I love how the button lock actually locks with a liner lock method.
My favorite thing about mine is the fact it locks shut. No more getting poked in the hip or hand from opening while in my pocket.
Keep up the great work. Love how you approach the knives with a real world approach.
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You do a great job at covering everything man, you treat this thing like a tool, as you should, which I appreciate. There are plenty RUclipsrs who don’t even talk about the life of an edge or anything like you do, and you actually cut things with the knife lol. Keep up the great work man I’m glad I found you
Thank you! And I agree you can kind of tell who actually uses the knives when you pay attention to the things they talk about and the importance of it
So cool they went button lock. Definitely a lock that needs to be used more in the knife world. Great review 👍
I just have to say. I finally bought one in January. I can’t get it out of my pocket. I have gotten other fantastic knives since then but I just keep carrying it. Thanks for continuing to champion it.
You’re a good salesman mate. I was on the fence about this knife but after watching your review, I’ve got an olive one on the way. Should be a great little knife. I’m glad it’s bigger than the original Elementum.
Cheers Nackers.
Great review. One of the few that understand the advantage of the mechanics of the knife. Unfortunately those that think it needs another means of deployment don't get it. Locked closed. With a detent it wouldn't be locked closed.
I didn't really understand that it locks when it's closed. I thought it had a detent. "Gravity/inertial knife" concerns aside, it's a really cool locking mechanism. Doesn't open unless you push the button. On the other hand, you have to sharply move the knife, with an awkward grip on it. It just begs for an accident with someone chucking the knife when trying to open it.
Definitely of the "don't hand this to non-knife people" type of knives.
Dude the amount of content you have this week is awesome, absolutely the best possible timing for me. Especially this knife I’ve been wanting to see a good review on it.
Awesome thanks
I’ve had 4 different versions and this is my favorite. The Micarta feels wonderful in the hand and the lines are so clean without anything slicking out but the soft little button. The liners are a little proud of the scales but I think it makes it probably more comfortable in the hand.
The only thing that kept me from buying the Elementum is the size. Now they fixed it.
The sharpening and cutting is satisfying to watch
Thanks
I really like how Civivi made it bigger than the original. Another great looking knife from Civivi. I thought they should have added another method of opening the knife but after watching this, I am starting to think it's fine the way it is. I also like how they used 14C28N. Great video once again Jerad.
Best 14c ive found, and yeah another opening option would be great, but its very satisfying and the grind shape and size is perfect
Thumb Studs are superfluous. Flippers get in the way. This has super clean lines and action. It is fun to play with almost like a balisong.
I picked one up today. Marble CF and Damascus blade. The action on this thing is crazy smooth.
Ended up getting one after watching a few of your Civivi videos. What a solid knife, really enjoying it!
Love the video man! Just getting into collecting knives and I’ve just ordered this knife upon your recommendation and watching this video. My first Civivi, absolutely can’t wait to get it in the mail and try it out! I want to get into sharpening too! Thanks again man👍🏽
Everyone else: versatility
Neeves Knives: versatality
I completely agree that it would be nice if it had a flipper tab. I'm not great at wrist flicking and don't do well with thumb deployments. But, flippers are great.
Where I disagree is about flipper tabs getting in the way. I really like having the flipper tab as an additional guard to keep my hand from slipping forward and getting cut on the blade. That is a terrific feature of most flipper knives.
Do you own one ?
@@unclebob4964 Own one what? I didn't buy a Civivi Elementum because it doesn't have a flipper. There is another Civivi that has both a button lock and a flipper that I'm considering. I do own about a dozen knives of various makes and styles.
@@BryanTorok Civivi Elementum Button Lock……the knife that was the subject of this discussion….! ?
Probably should drive something before you evaluate it. Little more “credence”, if you know what I mean.
@@unclebob4964 I don't need to own this knife to be able to see that is lacks a feature I find desirable and to say why that feature is desirable to me. I'm sure it is a fine knife and many people like it.
@@BryanTorok Fair enough.
I think I'm sold on this knife, really enjoy your videos as well.
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I want a micro, mini, large, and a extra large elementum. Great vid and awesome sharpening. Button lock is cool but I'd still prefer some other deployment. Keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.
I agree! But man its still pretty awesome
I'm getting myself a civivi .
your video will be good when I get my knife .
educational .
a great example of how to sharpen my civivi .
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I ordered this exact knife (green micarta/black blade) two days ago. This will be my third attempt at trying to like Civivi. Hope third times a charm. Great video!
I hope so to
I don't understand why they didn't add studs. Love button locks though.
Beautiful design I really wish it was a flipper which would usually be a deal breaker for me but I just can’t help myself
The respect you show for this blade showed me the need. I’ll have my brown SW Tuesday. My only regret is that I spend my summers in BC, Canada. It’s a gravity knife and I’ll need to leave it at home.
This is the best review of this knife 🔪 on the web
Got a few on order.......out of stock everywhere
They will be back, I'm going to be giving one away soon on patreon
I have been waiting for a long time for this to be available! Awesome!
Has similar action to the axis lock. I'll definitely pick one up.
I personally own 5 elementum BLs and i have to say they are the most comfortable and safely operatable knives i own. You never have totouch the blade woth your hands ever. Not for opening nor for closing! Perfect knife. I would have loved to get the titanium version with the more durable flat grind but the hollow ground ones slice like razors!
Of course OTF knives are also maipulatable without ever touching the blade itself i should have mentioned that right away.
Great!! Answer to my question before I could ask. Button lock for deployment before secondary deployment and that it locks up in pocket definitely. I'm all in waiting for mine to come in great vid 👍
👊 sweet its a great knife for sure
It's kinda funny at this point that almost every Civivi knife has reversible pocket clips, with the original Elementum being the exception but this one does. That was the only reason I never purchased an Elementum, because I'm able to operate right hand liner locks with ease, but can't for the life of me stand right hand pocket clips.
This being a button lock is going to be just as easy left or right handed with the action, and clip so it works for ya
The micarta is smooth like that because you can rough it up with sandpaper if you like it rougher, but a lot of people prefer smoother micarta and it is much harder to get canvas or burlap textured micarta to feel smooth. Most ways cause the micarta to look much different than it started out.
Yeah i believe i said i was going to take some sand paper to it as i usually do with smoother micarta, im also thinking about dying my other olive micarta, but its also from the kind of resin they use and the layering process, pressure exc but i still think its pretty decent ive seen alot worse for sure
@@NeevesKnives I love smooth micarta. The best I've found for what I like is on my QSP Hawk. They should be much more popular than they are. The penguin is ok but the hawk is much better. More ways to open and they feel almost surgical, plus it comes in sandvic steel and micarta handles for under 50 bucks.
An excellent review on an apparent excellent knife..! I like your demonstration of how their button lock works and your sharpening demonstration.
I like your enthusiasm, you could easily persuade me why I need to buy a gas station knife lol. And I agree with your thumb stud opinion. In public, it may "look better" when you intentionally slow open the knife.
Yeah for sure, for some reason people have grown fear of knives as if they dont use one daily, and dont know we couldnt survive without them
That is one fine-looking knife. This seems like the perfect knife to be a standard issue folding knife for military personnel.
It definitely has that look, idk if it would be tough enough for that but the profile is perfect
I actually like the bottom only deployment. Super clean and it's not like there isn't options. I think the idea is to have a diverse line up. Some with 2 or 3 deployments, some for those that are looking for something not so cluttered.
The real issue is that I'm guessing wobbly clip that equals an upgrade tax to upgrade it for like 12 to 15 bucks. I also get that too though, cheap clip nudges that MSRP down a tad while adding possible sale of upgraded clips for picky folks.
Anywho, my 2 cents. I'm grabbing a blacked out one that's on sale today. The simple lines and good price just sidetracked me from a kizer assassin xl or begleiter xl. Ironically I want the begleiter for the multiple deployments and size lol
i like how you do the box cutting since this is mainly what i need a knife for. makes it easy for me to decide if i like the knife or not. i cut a lot of boxes a day.
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It’s simple really. If folks don’t like it they don’t have to buy it. I just got mine…dark green micarta. Love the extra blade and handle length. Love the lock shut aspect of the button. Love the clean, uncluttered lines. I love flippers but this knife would be less special if a flipper was there. Tired of liner locks. This is a breath of fresh air. PS: flipping this knife up, down, backward, spinning, flipping, etc., etc., etc. is gonna lead some moron into thinking they should be doing it too…gonna be some fingers on the floor! Just sayin’.
We needed a bigger Elementum from day one. I could get used to the button only mechanism if I have no choice. The original Elementum is my favorite EDC. Hopefully they made enough for the initial demand.
Or make it an auto. Push the button & it flips out with no wrist.
Id rather this than auto
WE Knives is everything you say , they do it all , from the Dutch Blade Works Xerxes (right there with Chris Reeve quality) , to this button lock , nice review !
Probably the favorite knife I own. Agree with you completely!
Even just a groove in the blade like on the dogma would be good. Also would be cool if they sold a spring separately to convert it to an auto.
Thank you for your time and awesome review! I've never owned nor carried a button lock (yet), but am eyeballing this one. I left pocket carry. In your opinion, what is the probability of this knife working itself open throughout the day? I jump in and out of vehicles throughout the day, a lot of sit down then stand back up.
Thanks again!
People keep asking “why only one deployment method” well Civivi made this for the “sensitive” finger knife lovers in the community. The way they pump out models I’m sure the second deployment button lock Elementum’s are already sitting 70 miles off the coast of California.
As a lefty in a righty world I’m look at this like…would in enjoy this knife using my index finger to press the button.
It would be nice addition to see cutting performance vs wood. For example most of Spydercos are totally useless for wood because of their design of blade. You cannot get comfortably enough force to cut wood with them.
Just won this knife in a giveaway and I couldn't be more happy
Nice!! Good for you!
very nice video!
i am considering to buy a elementum button lock or elementum 2 with additional deployment method.
sharpening part is very helpfull, thank you :)
cheers from Poland.
Great review! Really looking forward to getting one even more now!
Flipper tabs are so last year looks great as is.
I would also recommend Kizer knives and their Vanguard series as well.
Absolutely
I dunno... I don't think it qualifies as a gravity knife. It's completely locked when closed... and that is actually a big Pro for me personally. If people don't like this configuration, there are plenty of other knife designs out there. For me, this is a winner :)
👊 agreed
Don't forget that versataaaallllity. ;)
Man a Brigand with a flipper tab and the button lock would be the perfect button lock budget Malibu! Would buy that knife in an instant!
Yeah that does sound awesome
The original is the perfect size for an EDC. Just under 3" blade. And a handle just barely long enough for my four fingers. Along with the flat handle profile, it is the perfect balance between compact size and functionality. Fits so well in the pocket I hardly know its there. IMO they should have kept the original size small, and released a 4+" blade version for those that want a larger version
I personally rather have this size than a 4" a 3.5 inch blade is the perfect size for edc imo, its a full size without being to big and fits my hand perfect
@@NeevesKnives Ha. Well, maybe they should have made 3 sizes then! Each to their own. Maybe I'm biased. Just got my Elementum not long ago, and its my first EDC. I love it.
So mine came in yesterday, and it opens absolutely fine, imo I prefer no thumbstuds or flipper.
Nice! Thats awesome yeah ive definitely grown on this thing
I like that clean look without the flipper or thumb stud. Besides, how many door knobs do ya need to open a door!?
True
Thanx for the review....I may get this knife. I have the backlash and love that knife.
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You CAN make an inset pocket clip without making your show side gaping ugly!
You just need to either:
a. make a wire pocket clip - or at least make just a portion of the clip [as necessary] be like wire
or
b. make a pocket clip that somehow attaches internally or at the back of the knife
or
c. make a tool-less pocket clip, like, e.g. the SRM 9203 series of knives.
I’m not sure I know how to word this to make sense, but here goes: When you are doing pull strokes and get to the belly and tip, I notice you aren’t really following the contour of the curve. Over time, wouldn’t this technique flatten that curve? Does that make sense?
I want one real bad!❤❤❤❤❤❤
I believe you have some confusion about gravity knife. It wouldn't matter if the knife had 3 other deployment options. It's that it does not have a friction detent which holds the blade closed into the frame unless a determined force is nused to deploy the blade out into open position! No detent means it's a gravity knife. Any knife with button utilizing a spring, switch blade. Any knife with button and no friction means of retaining the blade in frame, gravity knife.
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Absolutely
Good to q.thanks.just subscribed.Will try to use your link..like the paraxis.bigger than what I usually buy
I will be getting one! Great looking edge! Thanks Jerad. ✌️
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I have 2 on preorder, and now I'm even more keen to get my hands on them lol. Great video mate, nice one!
Yeah your gonna loove it, the 14c is do e so good to, probably the best ive seen
@@NeevesKnives considering the crazy prices we pay in Australia, 14c is about the best value per dollar on most knives. I'm becoming a bit of a civivi fanboy too, if I'm honest haha.
@@RubyD80 if you love knives and using them its hard not to
i like it im just waiting for the mini version i like under 3 " blade length
Well the regular one is around 3 inches its not a button lock though
I really like that version of the elementum and love button locks...would prefer for blade not to be locked closed, but could probably get used to it for button only deployment.
Yeah you get used to and enjoy it very quickly, they size profile and grind makes it incredible
its amazing knife If they make one in m390 or s35vn with blade thickness 3.5 - 4 mm maybe titanium scales but still same button lock mechanics will kill the market a lot of people including me will pay top dollar really wish they to that .. will be the ultimate knife
waiting on my preorder from knife center.cant wait to get it in hand.thanks for showing this.
Nice!!
Thanks 🙏 for taking the time to answer my question about 🙋♂️ damasteel vs Damascus I really appreciate it I just got the brazen but the kansept mujir is calling to me I own 5 civivi I think 🤔 always the brand I give as gifts 🎁
Yeah its definitely the ones i like to gift as well and highly reccomend
Already had too take one apart as its easy too get dirt in the button lock mechanism. Pretty easy disassembly but I could see dirt etc being an issue with this lock.
Oh wow yeah i can see that seems like its a spot that could be cleaned without taking it apart, but i haven't gotten it dirty so
@@NeevesKnives I had too take the whole button out, idk exactly what the issue was, but the button would just get stuck too the left and the blade wouldn't lock open or closed.
That paper towel cut is a true testament. I also like that you use soapy water. What stone is that? ,really like how its double sided and how wide it is
Those are Venev industrial diamond stones, they are a Russian company you can get them as freehand stones or for systems like the kme, best stones ive tried
Is there any risk of the button being inadvertently depressed causing the blade to open inside your pockets? That’s the only concern holding me back really. I love the clean simplicity of it.
No i dont think so, i carried it through tight places crawling around in lofts, and much more, not unless you meant to,
Also since it carries tip down the blade goes against the seem of your pocket which stops it from opening, unless you carry your knife right in the middle of your pocket, i personally keep it to the side
@@NeevesKnives Good to know! Thanks! I’m assuming you meant to write tip up. Is tip up actually more secure when worn against the seem than tip down?
@@Snek03 yes i did mean that you know what i meant
@@Snek03 and yes tip up is more secure from a blade opening in your pocket
How are maintaining your edge angle when sharpening aroun the belly. It looks like. You are rocking the knife rather than rotating. Why do you prefer that way
Great video. I appreciate the review. Is that soapy water you spray on the stone or something else??
Thanks again 👍
Already have it in my wishlist at Blade HQ!!!!
Gonna be alot of interest in this one.
@@dlife7427 Absolutely! I do love the size of the original Elementum but it really is a bit small for my hand so when I heard they were coming out with a larger Elementum I was so happy! I don't mind the button lock only deployment but it is a drawback for lots of people
@@ohioknifelover I open my Malibu/ Mordax with just the button all the time, and it works great. This civivi looks amazing imo.
I like that they fixed the awkward lanyard hole area and are using something other than D2, but having no deployment method other than the button is really disappointing.
I agree, but after trying it its still pretty damn awesome
Love your videos man! Thanks for all the great content! Hope you're all doing well my friend!
Thanks Steve! Hopefully you are as well
Im happy they switched to 14c 28n.
Looking forward to the button lock. Wonder if they will be available in Washington.
proper review thanks
I recently got the Elementum in Damascus and CF Boyeee!!!
Geeeyeah
So cool 😎🤘🏼
Well Jared, got to hand it to you another awesome job, and great content peace out
Thank you
Not sure why all the youtubers push Civivi I just returned the civivi elementum button lock. Its sharp as hell but the build quality is flimsy. The micarta scales were so thin if you tightened the 2 rear screws too much it would warp the scale off of the liner. Take a very close look at the button lock where it contacts the rear tang of the blade. The plunger is milled down less than a 1/16 inch this will fail before a liner lock would. Civivi knives are all show and no go. If you want a nice Chinese knife at a cheap price Petrified Fish is a better deal. Civivi - WE knives are over priced.
I got the black on black but I want the dark stonewash
I'd love it with a flipper. Ala protech malibu...
I'm fine with no flipper or thumbstuds but I have yet to handle it so I may change my mind after handling it for awhile. 14c28n is my favorite steel honestly.
Its very awesome
It think would have been much better if they did either thumb studs or the original flipper.
I agree
Dang! Been waiting for one in that wild CF multicolor handle. 👍🤔👍
So..... If it's locked when shut a flipper couldn't open it. They'd need to change the lock mechanism to have a detent instead.
No it wont but still pretty sweet imo, and i didn't think id like it so much
This knife suffers a lot of unwarranted and, more importantly, unfounded criticism…….and ( surprise, surprise ) it comes from folks that DON’T OWN ONE !!!!
And yes I do…..and the longer I have it, the more sense it makes and the more I like it.
The “ If it only had a flipper “ crowd need to “ Only have an Elementum button lock “ to know what they’re talking about…….
Damn they’re sweet !!!!
Some of us dislike flipper tabs and studs. This makes it ideal. If you want those items buy something else.
Definitely it's a great one for sure
Very good review thanks.
What stones should I start with? I see a few listed in the description, and would like to know what would be a good next step from my Worksharp setup. Thanks and great video presentation!
Do you have the stone holder attachment?
@@NeevesKnives , no
@@EmbraceTheSuck are you after bench stones?
On it!!!
So what is the perfect grit to sharpen this knife and what angle degree do you suggest or stay @ 30°’s ?
17° per side between 600 grit and 5000 grit depending on what you want
What's the factory per side angle on this knife? What's the per side angle do you recommend on this knife?
Really good review and sharpening. Looked like you were able to even out the grind. I am not sure about it. Wasn't impressed with the feel of the original. This being bigger maybe but the lack of any other deployment method has me going ehhh. I may give it a chance but the Riffle will be first.
Yeah il say its pretty awesome, id like another deployment method but the design and size makes it so great, and after you get it down which is pretty fast the action is still very awesome, and im not the kind of guy who flicks my knives with the button or locking system like axis locks, but in this case i like it
Does it lock closed ? Or can you open it without pressing the button ?
Just got mine yesterday (got the red cf shred/damascus version)...and i'm super bummed because it's got vertical blade play - any fair amount of pressure on the spine and the blade moves down a bit and I can hear it click/tap against the stop pin. I really like the overall feel of the knife itself though, and I don't miss a flipper tab or thumb stud at all.
Send it back! Ive had two with zero issues no play at all, first i would let it lock up a bunch of times and oil it to see if it just needs to settle in pkace but if that doesnt work have them replace or fix it