This video had me well informed before getting my 2019 M3SR's front suspension arms replaced by the Tesla SC. Replaced upper control arms ($180 parts, $0 labor), front lateral links ($0 parts, $124 labor) and compliance link assemblies ($601 parts, $124 labor). Did not ask the SC about their quote, just accepted it and said thank you. Then went to Goodyear for wheel alignment (3 year contract for $360 - ugh! specialty car pricing).
Tesla replaced both upper control arms for my 2019 M3 for $287. FYI I had that done at 120K miles. Currently have 160K miles. The only maintenance I've had so far is the the controller arm replacement and 12V battery. I love my M3.
I didn’t greasing but removed the wheel assembly and moved the pin around to free up the existing grease. Then used a needle grease gun to add more grease. 5k miles later still fine.
I hope my 2019 was a good build .. our early models were beta lol but your one of my favorite tesla RUclipsrs ❤️ I’m sure you getting all this monetization money 😌 1,400 a great price to keep your nice red model 3 rolling
Another great video! You got a very very fair price for your repair. I am going on 5 years, over 24,000 miles, and I'm beginning to hear that dreaded creak, but only when I back out of my driveway in a certain way. I was aware of the upper control arm issue, but good to know about all the other steering parts. For anecdotal comparison, my LEAF which I no longer own, had a torn upper control arm bushing after 10 years/68,000 miles. Cost to replace the control arm was about $250 at my local go to mechanic (charged a little extra because the bolt was frozen super tight).
Awesome info Joy. I also have to replace my lower control arms on my 2020 MX. already showing cracks onbthem. I recently had the front upper control arms replaced. I’ve taken my MY to Wilson in the past for alignment, and he is awesome. Always has the customers best interest.
Joy, all things considered, the cost for parts and labor are pretty reasonable. Here in Fremont at Tesla Factory service, they charge $250/hour and I can guarantee that Tesla service would charge much more for this work.
Our 2020 Tesla Model Y just experienced this issue at 48,000 miles. The company replaced the parts under warranty because the car is still under 50,000 miles. I've never had this issue with traditional gasoline vehicles, even after driving them well over 100,000 miles. In my opinion, this is a problem unique to Tesla vehicles. Design flaw
Yes for earlier cars. EVs are much heavier than ICE cars so they didn’t realize these arms would wear out faster. Hopefully this is corrected with newer models.
1yr old Modeel Y starting to get squeaky at 49k, intermittently. Made appointment under warranty. Mostly rear squeaking, they replaced a link but three days later it was coming back. Set another appointment with Tesla, but a week later they notified me they had to push the appointment another week which would have put me over the warranty mileage period. I spent $2k to extend the warranty. 10 days later, when I visited them, the car was completely quiet. So I negotiated with them such that I could just stop by on a whim when it was making noise and have the mechanic take a ride with me, make notes, then we would set the scheduled appointment for the fix. Update on 10/29/24, got it fixed two months ago. They replaced some "link" parts in the rear suspension. Quiet for two months so far! Damnit! Now my front is having the problem described in this video.
1:10, 6th year anniversary: 10K miles a year...that's quite good. Mine hit 65K miles in 11 months. Warranty gone. Some cabin sqeaking and squealing. Not as bad as yours yet, but it's getting there.
@@TeslaJoy Well as someone who is 66 and spent most of his life tinkering with autos and racing in my youth, I would say I am pretty sure that I know. 🙂
Yes, other videos show that apparently the grease migrates away from the ball joint in the upper control arm. Puncturing the rubber dust boot and injecting grease into the ball joint makes a huge difference.
I think I got my 2018 Model 3 before Joy got hers. I had the control arms issues too. $1400 isn't too bad, I would have paid that too, but since my Model 3 had 120k miles on it, I traded it in instead when they had the transfer of lifetime supercharging.
At 29k miles, i started hearing creaking noises towards the rear. I brought my car in 3 times for service at multiple tesla service centers (Fremont, CA and Dublin, CA) and each time the techs were oblivious of noises since it wasnt that loud. So much time wasted and no fix done! Im sure they wont want to replace since im still under warranty and the noises arent that loud yet. I have a feeling the noises will get louder over time. Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad im not the only one with creaking noises on my model 3
I had the same issue on my 2018 model 3 twice left and right upper control arms , my car has 75K miles has it was replaced at 30K and 32K miles! Was under warranty that time.
The issue is Tesla has a flawed design, rain water flow on upper control arm, after a couple of years, it failed to lubricate itself. Tesla replaced both front upper control arm for $193. Parts only, no labor. My car has 119k miles. It is a wide spread problem, they should have a recall
I heard that Tesla suspensions used same one as Toyota does. It worn out so quick due to the weight of Tesla car versus combustion Toyota cars. It’s better if Tesla willing to use the heavy duty suspension, then it should last longer.
Yes, the lower two arms need replaced. The upper control arm does not at this time. Several videos show how to inexpensively grease the ball joint of the upper control arm after disconnecting it from the spindle. This can be done in minutes with no alignment needed. The fact that these cars have this issue is NOT that they are heavy or torquey, it is poor design, PERIOD. MANY cars and trucks weigh this much or more and do not need all of these parts replaced at such a low average mileage. I personally would try aftermarket parts of theoretically higher quality in hopes of not seeing these issues for at least another 100,000 miles. Tesla’s EV drivetrain and batteries are great, but sometimes the rest of the car is Chrysler grade crap.
My 2018 Model 3 is soon to be six years old and is out of warranty. A few months ago it developed the same squeaking noise. I had the upper control arms replaced at a Tesla service center toward the end of March 2024. The total cost was $220. Here's the break down: $180 for two upper control arms. They must be replaced on both sides at once. $20 for one tenth of an hour labor to do the prescribed alignment test. The technician found that the wheels were aligned within spec. $20 taxes. Even though the car was out of warranty, Tesla ate the labor cost of installing the new upper control arms, approximately $200. I thought this was a very fair thing for Tesla to do. This is a common issue with Tesla's because the original arms were not designed properly. There is a flange on the top of the arm that routinely fails and allows water into the ball joint. A technical service bulletin was issued to cover the flange with polyethylene. This had been done on my car but it also failed. There is no rubber bushing there; it is a rubber surround that prevents grease from leaving and prevents water from getting into the ball joint. Tesla is now on version 3 of the upper control arm and I hope it has solved the issue of water getting into the ball joint. I was at the service center for a total of two hours.
I’m just about 60k. Will parts3xpress order the upper control arms that are backordered with Tesla? I may just go ahead and do the replacement since I’m sure mine are cracking but no noise yet
had my lower's replaced at 8k miles, this is not normal and is for sure a defect. Either the car is too heavy, or is not balanced properly, or too much torque wears them out over time...Other cars do not need these replaced pretty much ever, had Lexus, Toyota's and Acura's with over 180k miles and never replaced them.
Hi Joy. There is a cheaper alternative. Grease can be added using a grease gun to the rubber bushings. I tried it out and it worked great. All the squeaking is gone. Total cost of required tools is less than $30. You can get some additional life out of the upper control arm before fully replacing it. Check out this video: ruclips.net/video/6iG23-p9AOA/видео.html
Oops! Sorry, didn’t see your video until the very end. Perhaps the ball joint within the rubber bushing in your car is pretty rusted and hence greasing didn’t help. After I applied grease to my car, the noise didn’t return, even after several hundred miles of driving. Anyways, I wish you all the best for your upcoming repairs and hope the back order issue resolves quickly. Cheers ✌️
@@henryyiu618 never once thought about the warranty on any other car, Tesla's are not made as well as other cars I have owned. I have also owned an auto shop for over 8 years, I kind of know cars.
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This video had me well informed before getting my 2019 M3SR's front suspension arms replaced by the Tesla SC. Replaced upper control arms ($180 parts, $0 labor), front lateral links ($0 parts, $124 labor) and compliance link assemblies ($601 parts, $124 labor). Did not ask the SC about their quote, just accepted it and said thank you. Then went to Goodyear for wheel alignment (3 year contract for $360 - ugh! specialty car pricing).
Tesla replaced both upper control arms for my 2019 M3 for $287. FYI I had that done at 120K miles. Currently have 160K miles. The only maintenance I've had so far is the the controller arm replacement and 12V battery. I love my M3.
Wow amazing!
How is it running??
How much was the battery replacement and you paid $287 USD??
We replaced our set at 30k Mileage. PLEASE post the brand and part numbers for the lower control arm parts, thanks.
Replacement seems the best way to go. I did the greasing on my car myself but didn’t really work for me either lol
Time to trade it in Joy. With the re-engineering desist a no brainer. 😁 I started this Tesla journey with you on this channel. Good luck 👍🏾
I didn’t greasing but removed the wheel assembly and moved the pin around to free up the existing grease. Then used a needle grease gun to add more grease. 5k miles later still fine.
What an awesome, valuable video, Joy! Thank you!
I hope my 2019 was a good build .. our early models were beta lol but your one of my favorite tesla RUclipsrs ❤️ I’m sure you getting all this monetization money 😌 1,400 a great price to keep your nice red model 3 rolling
My monetization is $150-$200 a month. Not enough to pay for this. 😂
Dream big joy 😂
@lyjah1004 I do, but reality won. 😂
Great video Joy. I just had that issue and replaced my upper control arm for $228.80 at Tesla. I had to wait 2 weeks from my part.
Another great video! You got a very very fair price for your repair. I am going on 5 years, over 24,000 miles, and I'm beginning to hear that dreaded creak, but only when I back out of my driveway in a certain way. I was aware of the upper control arm issue, but good to know about all the other steering parts. For anecdotal comparison, my LEAF which I no longer own, had a torn upper control arm bushing after 10 years/68,000 miles. Cost to replace the control arm was about $250 at my local go to mechanic (charged a little extra because the bolt was frozen super tight).
@Tesla Joy Wow Joy what a wonderful video, so much knowledge was dropped. Hope all is well on the Home front... Wishing you Peace and Happiness.
Thank you!
I replaced them all under warranty I was fortunate that I started to hear those cranking noises earlier!! Tesla replaced them for free
Awesome info Joy. I also have to replace my lower control arms on my 2020 MX. already showing cracks onbthem. I recently had the front upper control arms replaced. I’ve taken my MY to Wilson in the past for alignment, and he is awesome. Always has the customers best interest.
Yes ! Wilson is knowledgeable and they provide excellent service!
@@TeslaJoy 100%😁
❤TJ, thank you for the great videos.
Excellent video!!! Thank you!
Joy, all things considered, the cost for parts and labor are pretty reasonable. Here in Fremont at Tesla Factory service, they charge $250/hour and I can guarantee that Tesla service would charge much more for this work.
Whoa!!!
Our 2020 Tesla Model Y just experienced this issue at 48,000 miles. The company replaced the parts under warranty because the car is still under 50,000 miles. I've never had this issue with traditional gasoline vehicles, even after driving them well over 100,000 miles. In my opinion, this is a problem unique to Tesla vehicles. Design flaw
Yes for earlier cars. EVs are much heavier than ICE cars so they didn’t realize these arms would wear out faster. Hopefully this is corrected with newer models.
Thank you so much for the information, same problem. Tesla just replaced my, yesterday. Lol
Thank you for this, just subbed
Thank you!
Very helpful, thank you! No issues yet with my 🥰2019 M3🥰~22,000 miles.
1yr old Modeel Y starting to get squeaky at 49k, intermittently. Made appointment under warranty. Mostly rear squeaking, they replaced a link but three days later it was coming back. Set another appointment with Tesla, but a week later they notified me they had to push the appointment another week which would have put me over the warranty mileage period. I spent $2k to extend the warranty. 10 days later, when I visited them, the car was completely quiet. So I negotiated with them such that I could just stop by on a whim when it was making noise and have the mechanic take a ride with me, make notes, then we would set the scheduled appointment for the fix.
Update on 10/29/24, got it fixed two months ago. They replaced some "link" parts in the rear suspension. Quiet for two months so far! Damnit! Now my front is having the problem described in this video.
1:10, 6th year anniversary: 10K miles a year...that's quite good. Mine hit 65K miles in 11 months. Warranty gone. Some cabin sqeaking and squealing. Not as bad as yours yet, but it's getting there.
Thanks for the informative video. Possibly if Tesla had put a Grease Fitting in the upper control arm this would not be such a early failure?
Who knows. 🤷🏻♀️
@@TeslaJoy Well as someone who is 66 and spent most of his life tinkering with autos and racing in my youth, I would say I am pretty sure that I know. 🙂
Yes, other videos show that apparently the grease migrates away from the ball joint in the upper control arm. Puncturing the rubber dust boot and injecting grease into the ball joint makes a huge difference.
happened to me after 30k miles on the front right side. my model 3 was 3years old and Tesla replaced the upper control arm under warranty.
that sucks they dont last very long. so much for NO MAINTENANCE. glad u have that competent garage there to fix it. this video is very helpful
Who says there’s no maintenance? All cars will have maintenance as they age.
@@TeslaJoy but at 60000 for that patt of the car is ridiculous
No it’s not. I spent way more on my ICE car than this.
I think I got my 2018 Model 3 before Joy got hers. I had the control arms issues too. $1400 isn't too bad, I would have paid that too, but since my Model 3 had 120k miles on it, I traded it in instead when they had the transfer of lifetime supercharging.
Very helpful information.
Very useful video. Thanks.
At 29k miles, i started hearing creaking noises towards the rear. I brought my car in 3 times for service at multiple tesla service centers (Fremont, CA and Dublin, CA) and each time the techs were oblivious of noises since it wasnt that loud. So much time wasted and no fix done! Im sure they wont want to replace since im still under warranty and the noises arent that loud yet. I have a feeling the noises will get louder over time.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad im not the only one with creaking noises on my model 3
See if you can find a non-Tesla mechanic to get a second opinion.
Great info
I had the same issue on my 2018 model 3 twice left and right upper control arms , my car has 75K miles has it was replaced at 30K and 32K miles! Was under warranty that time.
Nice! Mine didn’t start happening until I’m out of basic warranty unfortunately.
I have a 2023 model 3. I suppose this will become an issue for me as well? Btw never had control arm issues in any previous vehicle.
Not sure about new model.
Great infor. Thanks
I had it replaced under warranty with 10k miles the noise popped up out of nowhere 😢
I was expecting a lot more 2x for all of that work to be done. Is there a list of other Tesla repair shops available for the community to reference?
Not that I know of, but a regular mechanic can do this as well.
Aftermarket control arms are adjustable and stronger
The issue is Tesla has a flawed design, rain water flow on upper control arm, after a couple of years, it failed to lubricate itself. Tesla replaced both front upper control arm for $193. Parts only, no labor. My car has 119k miles. It is a wide spread problem, they should have a recall
I like your steering whell cover.
Wow that's really loud, thank goodness I never had it happen yet, 100k kms 2018 model 3 performance
I heard that Tesla suspensions used same one as Toyota does. It worn out so quick due to the weight of Tesla car versus combustion Toyota cars. It’s better if Tesla willing to use the heavy duty suspension, then it should last longer.
BTW, be careful with FSD lately is acting very bad on my car it hit the curve just coming out from being parked it make a right turn into the curb
Yes, the lower two arms need replaced. The upper control arm does not at this time. Several videos show how to inexpensively grease the ball joint of the upper control arm after disconnecting it from the spindle. This can be done in minutes with no alignment needed.
The fact that these cars have this issue is NOT that they are heavy or torquey, it is poor design, PERIOD. MANY cars and trucks weigh this much or more and do not need all of these parts replaced at such a low average mileage. I personally would try aftermarket parts of theoretically higher quality in hopes of not seeing these issues for at least another 100,000 miles. Tesla’s EV drivetrain and batteries are great, but sometimes the rest of the car is Chrysler grade crap.
Did you watch the whole video?
My 2018 Model 3 is soon to be six years old and is out of warranty. A few months ago it developed the same squeaking noise. I had the upper control arms replaced at a Tesla service center toward the end of March 2024. The total cost was $220. Here's the break down: $180 for two upper control arms. They must be replaced on both sides at once. $20 for one tenth of an hour labor to do the prescribed alignment test. The technician found that the wheels were aligned within spec. $20 taxes. Even though the car was out of warranty, Tesla ate the labor cost of installing the new upper control arms, approximately $200. I thought this was a very fair thing for Tesla to do. This is a common issue with Tesla's because the original arms were not designed properly. There is a flange on the top of the arm that routinely fails and allows water into the ball joint. A technical service bulletin was issued to cover the flange with polyethylene. This had been done on my car but it also failed. There is no rubber bushing there; it is a rubber surround that prevents grease from leaving and prevents water from getting into the ball joint. Tesla is now on version 3 of the upper control arm and I hope it has solved the issue of water getting into the ball joint. I was at the service center for a total of two hours.
Thanks and please make sure you watch the whole video because there’s more.
Just AN FYI, upper control arms are common parts. Not Tesla specific and any mechanic worth their salt or backyard DIY guy can do this.
Same issue on a 2020 M3 36k miles. Hopefully getting them under warranty since I have one more month left😅
Yes you should be able to do it under warranty!
Do you have any interior creeks , squeak and rattles ???
No
That’s a great price. Must be a pretty easy job to accomplish.
It's an easy job, parts are easily accessible. Any one can do this not just a Tesla mechanic.
@ericschmidt1987 Anyone? I can’t do it and I’m anyone. 😂
Your shocks and struts probably will go soon. Aftermarket ones will make your ride more comfortable. Save you in doing the alignment again.
I’m just about 60k. Will parts3xpress order the upper control arms that are backordered with Tesla? I may just go ahead and do the replacement since I’m sure mine are cracking but no noise yet
Yes they get the parts in and then you go do the replacement there. Mine should arrive tomorrow and I have an appt next Monday set up with them.
My 2020 Tesla Model 3 had 78,000 miles and I never had this issue 🍀
had my lower's replaced at 8k miles, this is not normal and is for sure a defect. Either the car is too heavy, or is not balanced properly, or too much torque wears them out over time...Other cars do not need these replaced pretty much ever, had Lexus, Toyota's and Acura's with over 180k miles and never replaced them.
EVs are much heavier than regular cars, it’s a known fact and why tires wear out faster on EVs.
8K? Hers was 60K, I’m sure I can find cars with similar situations that are not tesla
@@jacobmaz8157 I owned an auto shop for 8 years hardly did those and we have seen every POS you can imagine
@@TeslaJoy For sure they are heavier, you would just think that Tesla would know that and beef them up a little bit.
Not when it first came out in 2018.
Parts on RockAuto are super cheap, changing compliance arms and lower control arm... like 1/4 of the Tesla OEM price and can't be worse!!!
Every gas car I ever owned did that………. Every single one
Did the mechanic charge to diagnose? I opened a request with Tesla and they wanted $275 to diagnose the noise.
Nope. What I reported are what I’m paying.
Aren't there Meyle upper control arms available in the U.S.? MEYLE 70-16 050 0009/HD
I don’t go racing so no need.
Hi Joy. There is a cheaper alternative. Grease can be added using a grease gun to the rubber bushings. I tried it out and it worked great. All the squeaking is gone. Total cost of required tools is less than $30. You can get some additional life out of the upper control arm before fully replacing it.
Check out this video: ruclips.net/video/6iG23-p9AOA/видео.html
Did you watch this whole video before commenting? 🤦🏻♀️
Oops! Sorry, didn’t see your video until the very end. Perhaps the ball joint within the rubber bushing in your car is pretty rusted and hence greasing didn’t help. After I applied grease to my car, the noise didn’t return, even after several hundred miles of driving.
Anyways, I wish you all the best for your upcoming repairs and hope the back order issue resolves quickly. Cheers ✌️
How much was it from Tesla ? Did u get an estimate from them ?
Please watch the video.
Not that bad of a price.
4:00 that looks so dangerous. Tesla sucks, and I say that as an owner. How such a crucial part crack after only 6 years?
Ummm because Tesla / EV are much heavier than gas cars so they wear out faster like tires? It’s a known fact.
interesting wonder how much tesla would've quote you for
Local Tesla labor rate is $250/hr
they are back ordered because it is a flaw in the design...I always told myself I would not own a Tesla out of warranty
You can say that about owning almost any newer car.
@@henryyiu618 never once thought about the warranty on any other car, Tesla's are not made as well as other cars I have owned. I have also owned an auto shop for over 8 years, I kind of know cars.
@@itiswhatitis...9648 I've also owned many cars and would only worry about European cars out of warranty.