When he's back home from Vietman you can see that something has changed in his life. His a bit more serious, a bit more silent. It's a bit as if he's forcing to act like he used to be
Really does a good reflection from reality of what some vets from ‘Nam had felt at the time. This is one of the best films to show what PTSD and the troubles from combat is like. I need to watch this again.
Especially coming back home for the first time in years... everything changes but somehow at the same time stays the same. It’s a very difficult feeling to describe but this film does it pretty damn well
God this is such a hauntingly beautiful, intensely emotional piece of art. Right down to all the little subtleties. That can stir one up so much inside. Really an incredible achievement in American cinema to that point. Stunningly ambitious, and it’s up to the task in every way, weaving the richest tapestry of such depth and humanity that it’s just...a hell of a journey for the viewers heart & mind. I never served myself, but I understand in my own way when I’ve heard folks say they were never the same after watching this. Neither was I.
My 2 uncles were called rocky and bowinkel cuz on was short the other tall. Well rocky went. The other was in a band. There is a son by the Midnighters that goes" the town I live in is lonely has anybody even my baby tell her to come one home". Well.... My uncle changed the words to has anybody even my brother he's in Vietnam tell him to come on home". Then at that moment my hero walks in the back door full dress while the other is singing that song. 101 AIRBORNE
0:00 That gorgeously composed opening shot is at approx 110 McLister Ave, Mingo Junction, OH. The building on the corner was demolished in the last decade but the staircase is still there.
I honestly don't think any man has ever looked better in uniform than De Niro. The beard does a lot for it but just the way De Niro carries himself makes his uniform scenes look so good.
He is now the Green Beret from the wedding. They would probably be the only two who would have some understanding of each other, but would also avoid each other at all costs.
We have a lot of them down in Texas. Forgotten and dying. Everyone is moving here, but to the major cities. The price of modern capitalist moneymaking. Like old Midwestern steel or automakers, or coal towns in Penn. or W. Virginia. They had their glory years, and now they're in the rear view mirror. Like Port Arthur or Sugarland, to name a couple.
Really not a combat movie but that's fine its awesome in it's own way about veterans back home. Deer Hunter and Coming Home are two masterpieces about veterans back home
I love the idea of people watching the roulette scene and think, oh yes I'm in for a vietnam escape thriller...and half way in: what's with the f**kin deers??
@@YABUKIJOE2077 You simply do NOT go from a private fresh out of basic training to a Ranger staff sergeant in only one tour. It just does not work that way. Plus he has a hash mark on his sleeve which represents three years of service. I could go on. I was just pointing out that the movie took a lot of liberties with his uniform. Good movie but they should have had someone in the know advise them not to overdo DiNero’s character’s uniform. To me this is a serious movie blooper in a serious movie.
Never could comprehend him walking around with a beard. Was never allowed the whole time I was in the army. That is really hard to look away from in the movie
@@tarsicio2426okay, it’s just even more bizarre because there isn’t a need to wear a uniform and one would not wear a uniform with a beard. It’s a very will known regulation. Just a movie anyway. A very good movie
Nun das Interview in Jomtien mit dem Belgier hätte nach wie vor Gültigkeit........aber ihr Arschlöcher müsstet dabei die Anonymität fallen lassen also Fugg off
You can just tell in these scenes Michael is a totally different person, not that same selfish asshole like he was before he went to Vietnam. He's more serious now, his arrogance is gone! I guess war does change people in different ways??
All that anti military stuff was done in liberal cities like New York and San Francisco. Working class towns like the one depicted in this movie would give their returning soldiers a heroes welcome.
I'm a vet from western PA/Pittsburgh and it has always been an awesome and very supporting region for its veterans. I cant speak for other areas though.
@@Fvckyou123 when Michael jokes "where was you?" And responds with "where were you???" Was a subtle reference to his dislike he never was in Vietnam, great detail
@@Fvckyou123 Wrong because mike goes to Angela's and Angela tells Mike that Steven is in Louis Stokes VA hospital and Mike also finds out that Nick is sending Steven socks and cash unaware that Steven has no legs.
@@hbailey1180 wow!! All these years I thought that Nick was sending Steve cash from his victories of Russian roulette, but Steve says that he is receiving socks since he kept the cash in his sock drawer.
This happens to you almost immediately, war or not. Understandably being in the kind of action Mike & Nicki saw has got be like 20 fold but all I did was boot camp and A.I.T. and just relating to people when I came back to civilian life was bizarre. I remember seeing Deer Hunter before I joined the army and when Michael comes home, sees the party and has the taxi skip by and he stays in a motel I was like “huh.. what’s wrong with him?” and then seeing it again after the experience, I was like….yup. It’s hard to explain but I think it starts with being trained that all non-military are now civilians to you, and it’s your duty to protect them. It doesn’t make you feel superior, but it definitely creates a distance between you and normal people and a bond between you and your fellow soldiers. So now any time I see a movie where a guy comes back to his family and he’s like out shopping and doing normal shit and he looks out of place/bored/anxious I get it. Totally understandable that they lowkey want to get deployed again because as much as they love their family, they only really relate to other military.
@@OZZY69WEST lol right .. dudes talking like he has PTSD from basic training . Haha my goodness I'm surprised even one person agreed with him . I'm a civilian and even I know war is hell... You literally went through basic training and AIT... Try telling our WW2 veterans you've experienced the same mental battles . Go listen to some of our Marines who fought on the island of Peleliu and be sure to let them know your time at basic and AIT was pretty much similar to the experience they dealt with throughout those Pacific islands . Let me try and guess this guy's somewhere in the age group of 22-30 years old. Definitely sounds like someone from my generation
@@low-keyrighteous9575He didn't compare himself to combat soldiers of the past, he stated he never faced traumas. He was simply sharing hpw training affected his psyche. It's simply discussing a life change. The kind of change, that shifts your mind, forever. MOST would feel out of place, as he does. You have a lot to learn. You might need mental help. You wouldn't be rude in person, like you are on the net. Frankly, you're hilarious. Maybe what you need is a tune up. Shame those are so rare nowadays.
@@low-keyrighteous9575 you should change your name to *NOT-so-low-key-Self-Righteous* Hey, check out my impression of you. "I suck, as a friend, ally, citizen.... I'm so good at being a jerk to people I know nothing about. And I think I'm so great and humble. And, I know things. So many things. I'm GREAT. I may be a virgin because girls don't like immature boys, but.... oh well." BAM.... how'd I do? Did you like it? 😃 I felt like I was on a roll.... felt good. So, yeah? Yep, NAILED it. I knew it. Hey, all that aside, real speak, f**k you boy.
Proving Streep is a superior actress - she takes an almost nothing role and creates a full person out of it. And the subtleties of Michael being gay are well handled.
She was so young in this, bit I noticed when they stopped to speak to the old man, he's talking to DeNiro, and she takes a second to check her reflection in the store's window, and make sure her hair is looking good. Just for a second, like not showy, but a natural reaction. Then turns right back to the conversation, and they move on. She might have ten minutes screen time in Deer Hunter, but you remember her.
Don't ask a war vet if he or she is doing ok, especially when they only just returned. I know that's a standard greeting phrase among Americans, but what are they supposed to say?! In many cases, they don’t know how they truly are themselves (so they just respond "I'm good"), nor do they know how to behave in their once familiar social environment, because friends and family couldn't possibly relate to what you've seen and done. That aspect seems to be particularly hard in the States, because US troops get sent to other corners of the earth, which many of their fellow Americans wouldn't find on a map, so to the American people (the ones back home), war is merely a telegram. Anyway, this was one of those movies that depicted phenomena like PTSD, CSR, shellshocks, etc. before the public openly talked about it.
When I was younger I loved this movie. There are many good actors who have done their job very well. The director, the script, the music...everything is excellent. I love watching this movie even today, but I watch it differently. For example, when I was younger in the scene when the US prisoners are in the water in the bamboo cage, with the rats...I felt sorry for them. I looked at the Vietnamese as animals torturing captured soldiers. And over time, when I got older and looked at what US cowboys, napalm bombs, did to the Vietnamese, civilians, children... What cowboys are criminals, and they still continue to do so... Now I see that the Vietnamese are humane and good. They are not animals like American cowboys.
Pourquoi montrer les animaux potentiellement violent et dangereux Alors dans la vraie vie l arme suffit à tuer indéfiniment Cela oblige dans ces films à montrer l ànimal toujours représenté pas toujours à sa juste valeur
The uniform is not even right . 1 - he would not have a special forces head gear , with the 101st unit patch I really wish movies get their act together when they make movies
Yep, he couldve had the screaming eagle on his right shoulder and his SF patch and tab on the left with his beret, that was more likely than the combo he had on. I was a squawkign chikn.
That's my great grandfather at 3:49 in the orange lid smirking, Donald Cole!
RIP John Cazale (August 12, 1935 - March 13, 1978), aged 42
You will always be remembered as a legend.
The music in this scene is also priceless.
The soundtrack is so sublime....if you can get it do it.
cavatina
When he's back home from Vietman you can see that something has changed in his life. His a bit more serious, a bit more silent. It's a bit as if he's forcing to act like he used to be
Michael doesn't know what to feel.... I relate a lot to him
Really does a good reflection from reality of what some vets from ‘Nam had felt at the time. This is one of the best films to show what PTSD and the troubles from combat is like. I need to watch this again.
I do as well...When I got back from Afghanistan in 2013 I told people that I was "fine" but I was lying my ass off to them about it..
@@davidtucker7219 how are you now?
Especially coming back home for the first time in years... everything changes but somehow at the same time stays the same. It’s a very difficult feeling to describe but this film does it pretty damn well
Same brother. It's bizarre coming home. It's like living two different realities simultaneously.
God this is such a hauntingly beautiful, intensely emotional piece of art. Right down to all the little subtleties. That can stir one up so much inside. Really an incredible achievement in American cinema to that point. Stunningly ambitious, and it’s up to the task in every way, weaving the richest tapestry of such depth and humanity that it’s just...a hell of a journey for the viewers heart & mind. I never served myself, but I understand in my own way when I’ve heard folks say they were never the same after watching this. Neither was I.
Truly a perfect film in my opinion
This is an amazing and thoughtful comment
My 2 uncles were called rocky and bowinkel cuz on was short the other tall. Well rocky went. The other was in a band. There is a son by the Midnighters that goes" the town I live in is lonely has anybody even my baby tell her to come one home". Well.... My uncle changed the words to has anybody even my brother he's in Vietnam tell him to come on home". Then at that moment my hero walks in the back door full dress while the other is singing that song. 101 AIRBORNE
@@ryanwebb5082 thanks man 🙏🏻
It's actually a British production with an American director and actors. A fantastic film by any standard nevertheless.
0:00 That gorgeously composed opening shot is at approx 110 McLister Ave, Mingo Junction, OH. The building on the corner was demolished in the last decade but the staircase is still there.
McLister Ave. is also Rob Parissi Blvd. of Wild Cherry ("Play That Funky Music [White Boy]").
Beautiful scene from the guitar to the scenery to the acting. This is filmmaking!
The ending of this movie where the group sings God Bless America, still tears me up. This movie is truly a life experience.
the best war movie ever made ......
Incredible cast in this film.
beautiful music too
I honestly don't think any man has ever looked better in uniform than De Niro. The beard does a lot for it but just the way De Niro carries himself makes his uniform scenes look so good.
Col. Troutman aka Richard Crenna for me.
Man in uniform, or man in uniform on screen? My Pops looks twice as good in his blues 🫡
@@boobear1907People seem to forget, these are actors. The real are so much better.
Total masterpiece
He is now the Green Beret from the wedding. They would probably be the only two who would have some understanding of each other, but would also avoid each other at all costs.
To get that sense of it all seems so small and surreal coming back...
Sad to see small towns now
We have a lot of them down in Texas. Forgotten and dying. Everyone is moving here, but to the major cities. The price of modern capitalist moneymaking. Like old Midwestern steel or automakers, or coal towns in Penn. or W. Virginia. They had their glory years, and now they're in the rear view mirror. Like Port Arthur or Sugarland, to name a couple.
Weirton, West Virginia!
Really not a combat movie but that's fine its awesome in it's own way about veterans back home. Deer Hunter and Coming Home are two masterpieces about veterans back home
I love the idea of people watching the roulette scene and think, oh yes I'm in for a vietnam escape thriller...and half way in: what's with the f**kin deers??
That guitar and flute really makes the scene
Great movie
Willie Nelson playing..💕
What title?
@dionnieasentista5451 good hearted woman by willie and waylon
DiNero’s character sure went through Special Forces qualification and made staff sergeant fast didn’t he, lol.
Promotions are fast in wartime because no one is safe. Your boss dies someone’s gotta continue the leadership.
@@YABUKIJOE2077 You simply do NOT go from a private fresh out of basic training to a Ranger staff sergeant in only one tour. It just does not work that way. Plus he has a hash mark on his sleeve which represents three years of service. I could go on. I was just pointing out that the movie took a lot of liberties with his uniform. Good movie but they should have had someone in the know advise them not to overdo DiNero’s character’s uniform. To me this is a serious movie blooper in a serious movie.
@@MHB48615I know right? Like how can you be a ranger AND in the airborne AND be a green beret
I’m pretty sure once you’re done with Q course you’re promoted to SSgt.
Never could comprehend him walking around with a beard. Was never allowed the whole time I was in the army. That is really hard to look away from in the movie
Yes I agree with you they would never have allowed that I thought the same thing.
When he’s in the army he doesn’t have a beard
@@tarsicio2426okay, it’s just even more bizarre because there isn’t a need to wear a uniform and one would not wear a uniform with a beard. It’s a very will known regulation. Just a movie anyway. A very good movie
De niro looks good, he should've played Solid Snake from Metal Gear Solid.
Could this soldier ever return to who he was before all of what happened-changed him?
no
I’ve known a couple vets and I’ll be honest none of them were ever just like they were before they went away
Nun das Interview in Jomtien mit dem Belgier hätte nach wie vor Gültigkeit........aber ihr Arschlöcher müsstet dabei die Anonymität fallen lassen also Fugg off
Deniro,one of the best actors ever
War didn't break him but it broke Nick. 😮
You can just tell in these scenes Michael is a totally different person, not that same selfish asshole like he was before he went to Vietnam. He's more serious now, his arrogance is gone! I guess war does change people in different ways??
Robert deniro is so handsome. I just love him.
This scene was shot in Cleveland, Ohio.
also mingo junction ohio
Didn't know Chris Farley was in this
😂😂👍🏻
When a beret on an American soldier meant something. Return home in uniform and it was almost celebrity status.
This literally isn’t true lol
Not in Vietnam it wasn't. Not by 69 at least
Maybe from WW2, not vietnam
All that anti military stuff was done in liberal cities like New York and San Francisco. Working class towns like the one depicted in this movie would give their returning soldiers a heroes welcome.
I'm a vet from western PA/Pittsburgh and it has always been an awesome and very supporting region for its veterans.
I cant speak for other areas though.
Meryl Streep was HOT before I ever heard the term!
This scene is accelerated. There is no 24 frames per second
An essentially perfect film. Even the opening shot here is beautiful, and the music hauntingly so.
What was that cut at 1:50? Did YOU do that? WTF? And SERIOUSLY, you cut the end where you did?
Why does Mike get pissed when Stan mentions Nick and Steve?
Because steve’s alive and theyre all sort of ignoring him
@@Fvckyou123 when Michael jokes "where was you?" And responds with "where were you???" Was a subtle reference to his dislike he never was in Vietnam, great detail
Because earlier Mike got on Stan for Always carrying a gun around and aiming at people!
@@Fvckyou123 Wrong because mike goes to Angela's and Angela tells Mike that Steven is in Louis Stokes VA hospital and Mike also finds out that Nick is sending Steven socks and cash unaware that Steven has no legs.
@@hbailey1180 wow!! All these years I thought that Nick was sending Steve cash from his victories of Russian roulette, but Steve says that he is receiving socks since he kept the cash in his sock drawer.
Big Boss?
Glad I'm not the only who got that vibe. He's only missing the eye patch
Outer Heaven..
Welshs bar Mingo Jct Ohio
No beards while in uniform allowed
Too bad. It’s war
3:03
This happens to you almost immediately, war or not. Understandably being in the kind of action Mike & Nicki saw has got be like 20 fold but all I did was boot camp and A.I.T. and just relating to people when I came back to civilian life was bizarre. I remember seeing Deer Hunter before I joined the army and when Michael comes home, sees the party and has the taxi skip by and he stays in a motel I was like “huh.. what’s wrong with him?” and then seeing it again after the experience, I was like….yup.
It’s hard to explain but I think it starts with being trained that all non-military are now civilians to you, and it’s your duty to protect them. It doesn’t make you feel superior, but it definitely creates a distance between you and normal people and a bond between you and your fellow soldiers. So now any time I see a movie where a guy comes back to his family and he’s like out shopping and doing normal shit and he looks out of place/bored/anxious I get it. Totally understandable that they lowkey want to get deployed again because as much as they love their family, they only really relate to other military.
thanks for all your boot camp services?
@@OZZY69WEST lol right .. dudes talking like he has PTSD from basic training . Haha my goodness I'm surprised even one person agreed with him . I'm a civilian and even I know war is hell... You literally went through basic training and AIT... Try telling our WW2 veterans you've experienced the same mental battles . Go listen to some of our Marines who fought on the island of Peleliu and be sure to let them know your time at basic and AIT was pretty much similar to the experience they dealt with throughout those Pacific islands . Let me try and guess this guy's somewhere in the age group of 22-30 years old. Definitely sounds like someone from my generation
By the way Marines go to boot camp , army is basic training ... But I'm sure you know that soldier
@@low-keyrighteous9575He didn't compare himself to combat soldiers of the past, he stated he never faced traumas. He was simply sharing hpw training affected his psyche.
It's simply discussing a life change. The kind of change, that shifts your mind, forever. MOST would feel out of place, as he does.
You have a lot to learn. You might need mental help. You wouldn't be rude in person, like you are on the net. Frankly, you're hilarious. Maybe what you need is a tune up. Shame those are so rare nowadays.
@@low-keyrighteous9575 you should change your name to *NOT-so-low-key-Self-Righteous*
Hey, check out my impression of you.
"I suck, as a friend, ally, citizen.... I'm so good at being a jerk to people I know nothing about. And I think I'm so great and humble. And, I know things. So many things. I'm GREAT. I may be a virgin because girls don't like immature boys, but.... oh well."
BAM.... how'd I do? Did you like it? 😃 I felt like I was on a roll.... felt good. So, yeah?
Yep, NAILED it. I knew it.
Hey, all that aside, real speak, f**k you boy.
Its a Vietnam War movie.
4:18 im Polish why are they saying na zdrowie in my native language lol or maybe was it an attempt to speak Russian?
According to the movie, I believe this is set in a Russian American community
@@terranceaddison4599 thank you! Greetings from Warsaw, Poland ☺️
about 4:40 the "Na zdrowie" toast. Polish!
Proving Streep is a superior actress - she takes an almost nothing role and creates a full person out of it. And the subtleties of Michael being gay are well handled.
She was so young in this, bit I noticed when they stopped to speak to the old man, he's talking to DeNiro, and she takes a second to check her reflection in the store's window, and make sure her hair is looking good. Just for a second, like not showy, but a natural reaction. Then turns right back to the conversation, and they move on. She might have ten minutes screen time in Deer Hunter, but you remember her.
Don't ask a war vet if he or she is doing ok, especially when they only just returned. I know that's a standard greeting phrase among Americans, but what are they supposed to say?! In many cases, they don’t know how they truly are themselves (so they just respond "I'm good"), nor do they know how to behave in their once familiar social environment, because friends and family couldn't possibly relate to what you've seen and done. That aspect seems to be particularly hard in the States, because US troops get sent to other corners of the earth, which many of their fellow Americans wouldn't find on a map, so to the American people (the ones back home), war is merely a telegram.
Anyway, this was one of those movies that depicted phenomena like PTSD, CSR, shellshocks, etc. before the public openly talked about it.
When I was younger I loved this movie. There are many good actors who have done their job very well. The director, the script, the music...everything is excellent.
I love watching this movie even today, but I watch it differently.
For example, when I was younger in the scene when the US prisoners are in the water in the bamboo cage, with the rats...I felt sorry for them. I looked at the Vietnamese as animals torturing captured soldiers.
And over time, when I got older and looked at what US cowboys, napalm bombs, did to the Vietnamese, civilians, children...
What cowboys are criminals, and they still continue to do so... Now I see that the Vietnamese are humane and good.
They are not animals like American cowboys.
Надрове !
На здоровье! =)
Pourquoi montrer les animaux potentiellement violent et dangereux
Alors dans la vraie vie l arme suffit à tuer indéfiniment
Cela oblige dans ces films à montrer l ànimal toujours représenté pas toujours à sa juste valeur
I would like to see a AI-modified version of the film in which Meryl Streep is replaced by a less irritating actress.
❤
Is that first old man he shakes hands with Mick from Rocky?
That Russian music and this scene is perfect. Russian Americans.
The uniform is not even right .
1 - he would not have a special forces head gear , with the 101st unit patch
I really wish movies get their act together when they make movies
Yep, he couldve had the screaming eagle on his right shoulder and his SF patch and tab on the left with his beret, that was more likely than the combo he had on.
I was a squawkign chikn.