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I’m not entirely sure if he would’ve been on the enterprise E because remember he was in first contact and that would’ve been very risky to have a time agent on a ship that was assimilated by the Borg where they were running free that would’ve been a real risk to have the board Assimilate a temporal agent. I don’t think he would be there
Captain: "Daniels, can you go back in time and stop the Burn?" Daniels: "No." Captain: "Why not?" Daniels: "Because the writers didn't know what my character was until the last episode." Captain: "You know, you can still send us back now. We know the cause of it and can stop it from happening." Daniels: "Nah. Temporal Prime Directive." Captain: "Captain Kirk went back in time to save the whales. Surely, we can go back to save billions of lives and save civilizations from collapsing on themselves. I'm sure everyone would agree since it affected everyone equally." Daniels: "....We threw out the technology......ummm.....for budgetary reasons." Captain: "I'm sure that one of the races would still have the technology. Surely, we can....." Daniels: "Just leave. This is the last episode, and no one cares."
They just needed to come up with some sort of in-universe scapegoat everyone in the plot needed to get rid of. e.g. The burn somehow ended up getting rid of all the annoying time travelers so it's a good thing!
Considering how pivotal the Enterprise keeps being for the entire universe, it'd make sense that it'd have some many time agents implanted in it to ensure it's events aren't altered.
I still don't understand what was the point of _DISCO_ . At first it read like it was going to be a prequel, setting up _TOS_ . But then it went all _Terminator_ with AI. And introduced _Enterprise_ under Pike's command (still easily its best character, obviously, but the bar's pretty low). Then they went to the future, and I thought "perfect! Now they can do their own thing, and don't have to worry about canon, and the rest of the timeline can also do its thing." But after all the references _Picard_ ended up doing, _DISCO_ just kept on throwing out one reference after the other like they just couldn't stop. It was like they really thought all the references in season 3 of _Picard_ actually saved it, even though the series was ending anyway, and it was _still_ horribly written and executed. And then, just to make it even more horrible, the decide to tie it into the 'Calypso' _Short Trek_ as their finale -- which was still centered on just Michael Burnham, just like the rest of the series. They should have called it _Michael Burnham: A Star Trek 'Discovery' Story_ . More people wouldn't have watched, but at least it'd have been more truthful. It was all about her, from the very beginning right to the end, after all. Shame, there was a lot of potential that got wasted. Nothing more burdensome than a character and story with potential, is there?
Cast as nothing more than Generic Grimdark Future Scifi Show (or, let's be honest given Jar Jar Abrams' involvement, "Star Wars Effects Demo Reel Show"), Discovery isn't the worst thing ever. Not good, but... yeah there's been worse. What makes it terrible is the fact that people who aren't nearly smart enough, or in possession of enough self control, are trying to put it into the context of fifty (now sixty) years of Star Trek canon.
It's a story about how crewman daniels, burnham, jet reno, and the hot tub time machine guy managed to gain absolute power over the federation. At least that's what I'd love to believe.
STD could have just been a small easily ignorable footnote in trek, but they just HAD to go about time traveling all across the universe, implementing themselves in every single major event that ever happened in the universe.
I won’t be surprised if someone in Strange New Worlds appears as another incarnation of Agent Daniels. Or a retcon of a random TOS background character. Man I love Daniels.
Would that be Romulans mucking with the dating of our Eugenics Wars, or someone from the Terran Confederation timeline trying to preserve their own existence?
@@jonathanz.9675 Nah, it wasn't great but that show was brigaded hard. I saw more racial slurs in the trek fanbase in the last 4 years than I had in the entire 20+ years previously. Damn good thing the net was still in it's infancy when Deep Space 9 came out or we'd have never gotten past season 2 of it.
The sad irony is that the people who would respond to memberberries like that are long gone. The only ones left are people who think shoot-em-up crap like Star Trek Fleet Command is high art.
Discovery being an anomaly from the Temporal Cold War that Daniels corrects would have been a cool storyline, if the rest of the series was.. watchable. Also, why is Daniels' tech so much better on ST: Enterprise than in Discovery?
Archer asked Daniels if he was human. Daniels responded, "Yes. In a manner of speaking." So Daniels might be descendented from a lot of other alien species. Maybe one of them is Vulcan since they can live up to 200 years. However, since he looks human, maybe a lot of his human ancestors' genes keep him looking human. Or the 32nd century Federation's medical technology and practices have improved so much that he can live for centuries, if he chose to do that.
If McCoy could be 140 by the time of TNG and still be able to think, walk and talk, there's no reason why medicine a millennium later won't be able to extend the life of humans far beyond that of, say, Vulcans. Life extensions therapies were already known by the time of both TOS and TNG, but were crude or impractical, I guess they were able to refine them later on.
I feel like the writer that skimmed the material, legit thought crewman Daniels and the LT, were the same. How could Silik hear anything! She was whispering all the time, and had his enhanced abilities removed. Good job Burnham!
I admit I had no idea what I was watching until it all came together at the end with Picard ordering the destruction of the Discovery. Although it started to crystallize for me that it was parody when Shatner said “kick the fucker’s ass”.
Where's the second clip from? I recognise the Daniels talking with Archer in clip 3 but not the one talking to Riker or Picard. Are they the same man or different? Is Daniels also a code name?
I wonder what they were actually going to have the suit man be. With the show being canceled suddenly they had to reveal the mystery and Daniels is the only option that made any sense at all and had a connection to anything. But this only further raises the ridiculousness about the loss of time travel technology because it shows that there are still people alive that know how to make it.
Maybe whoever Daniels worked for had tech to switch bodies as well XD. One of the unfortunate things about them banning time travel, although that’s pretty understandable, is that they would likely have had to destroy their timeships, which is one of my most favorite parts of the series. I’d imagine Section 31 (if they’re still around) might have kept some or something.
Well to be fair, that's how they fixed the timeline in star trek voyager in the episode year of hell, which sounds like a subtext to discovery in its name alone really.
2:30 I'm not sure I ever realized how stupid this is. All anyone would have to do is alter the past while covering their tracks (the opposite of this would be standing out like a sore thumb like when Sisko took over the role of Gabriel Bell). The new events they created would become a normal part of history and no one would ever be the wiser.
I love that DS9 did a callback much later in the show, where Nog has this PADD about Earth history, sees Graham Bell and immediately notices that he looks a lot like Sisko.
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Overview and Ranking of all Discovery Seasons here: ruclips.net/video/hJsBG9fCeag/видео.html
I’m not entirely sure if he would’ve been on the enterprise E because remember he was in first contact and that would’ve been very risky to have a time agent on a ship that was assimilated by the Borg where they were running free that would’ve been a real risk to have the board Assimilate a temporal agent. I don’t think he would be there
The Stargate clips snuck in were absolutely hilarious, thank you
and Monk at the end
Captain: "Daniels, can you go back in time and stop the Burn?"
Daniels: "No."
Captain: "Why not?"
Daniels: "Because the writers didn't know what my character was until the last episode."
Captain: "You know, you can still send us back now. We know the cause of it and can stop it from happening."
Daniels: "Nah. Temporal Prime Directive."
Captain: "Captain Kirk went back in time to save the whales. Surely, we can go back to save billions of lives and save civilizations from collapsing on themselves. I'm sure everyone would agree since it affected everyone equally."
Daniels: "....We threw out the technology......ummm.....for budgetary reasons."
Captain: "I'm sure that one of the races would still have the technology. Surely, we can....."
Daniels: "Just leave. This is the last episode, and no one cares."
Or he would rather protect the integrity of the timeline...
GG
Or he is stuck in the 32nd century due to that temporal instability if he does go back in time excuse??……or lazy writing and logic
All time travel technology was banned by this time. Going back in time would start temporal cold war all over again.
They just needed to come up with some sort of in-universe scapegoat everyone in the plot needed to get rid of.
e.g. The burn somehow ended up getting rid of all the annoying time travelers so it's a good thing!
"Okay, Agent Daniels, what's your first name?"
"I don't know."
Jack?
@scockery Simpsons reference. Well played. 😂
Probably Timmy
@@NitpickingNerd Timot Danlen. Nice reference 😆
It's Agent...my parents were hippies.
Got to admit putting burnham in the forcefield as “unknown guy” was hilarious . Perfect pose forbit as wel
I think he was known in fan circles as Future Guy. It even ended up in the Memory Alpha database.
@@fishjones4618 I couldn’t remember his name u get who I was talking about
Your knowledge, connections and library use is astounding as always.
Like so many, I too wish for a time correction.
I kinda like the idea that Daniels are these nobodies on Enterprise working for the time agency
Considering how pivotal the Enterprise keeps being for the entire universe, it'd make sense that it'd have some many time agents implanted in it to ensure it's events aren't altered.
This is fantastic. First the image in a timestream and then at 2:20 had me breaking out in laugher. Well done.
The beach scene edit is just brilliant, I didn't realize that Dr.Culburt or whatever his name is was on the monk episode!
Ow!
This is one of your best! You da man!
Finally, the Picard is back to bring order to the universe
Long live the Picard!!!
Never thought about that tng one before
Gawd I love the enterprise theme song
'Mr Sisko, I refuse to believe that the afterlife is run by you'
@5:33 - How Star Trek Burnham should have started, and ended
Great work
There _must_ be some temporal weirdness going on if we're getting a good old-fashioned Grin mashup after all these years!
I still don't understand what was the point of _DISCO_ . At first it read like it was going to be a prequel, setting up _TOS_ . But then it went all _Terminator_ with AI. And introduced _Enterprise_ under Pike's command (still easily its best character, obviously, but the bar's pretty low). Then they went to the future, and I thought "perfect! Now they can do their own thing, and don't have to worry about canon, and the rest of the timeline can also do its thing." But after all the references _Picard_ ended up doing, _DISCO_ just kept on throwing out one reference after the other like they just couldn't stop. It was like they really thought all the references in season 3 of _Picard_ actually saved it, even though the series was ending anyway, and it was _still_ horribly written and executed. And then, just to make it even more horrible, the decide to tie it into the 'Calypso' _Short Trek_ as their finale -- which was still centered on just Michael Burnham, just like the rest of the series.
They should have called it _Michael Burnham: A Star Trek 'Discovery' Story_ . More people wouldn't have watched, but at least it'd have been more truthful. It was all about her, from the very beginning right to the end, after all. Shame, there was a lot of potential that got wasted. Nothing more burdensome than a character and story with potential, is there?
Cast as nothing more than Generic Grimdark Future Scifi Show (or, let's be honest given Jar Jar Abrams' involvement, "Star Wars Effects Demo Reel Show"), Discovery isn't the worst thing ever. Not good, but... yeah there's been worse. What makes it terrible is the fact that people who aren't nearly smart enough, or in possession of enough self control, are trying to put it into the context of fifty (now sixty) years of Star Trek canon.
@@erikkeever3504 🚫
It's a story about how crewman daniels, burnham, jet reno, and the hot tub time machine guy managed to gain absolute power over the federation. At least that's what I'd love to believe.
They made her basically star trek jesus, made her responsible for all things good in the federation.
Its like the series was written exclusively for the main character
STD could have just been a small easily ignorable footnote in trek, but they just HAD to go about time traveling all across the universe, implementing themselves in every single major event that ever happened in the universe.
That's what I'm saying!!! They knew damn well what they were doing.
They don't call it an STD for nothing.
Rewriting history w their own agendas. Sounds like Marxism
@@WarNoob755 Well, anal fans call it STD... official platforms and outlets call it DSC.
It's that modern Doctor Who crap where every season has to top itself in terms of galactic/timeline importance and/or retconning the lore.
He said to number 1 " BLOW THAT THING UP " the disrespect couldn't even call discovery a ship 😂🤣🖖💩
Best comment!
I refer to it as the ship that must not be named.
not being able to distinguish whats fact and comedy is the genius part.. you got me 😂😂
I mean, they pretend to like Star Trek Enterprise and still the fans hate them.
Come on! Burnham said she was sorry.
Enterprise was an obscenity - and then ironically it is the only thing even worse nuTrek considered canon.
This is your best work yet, sir !
ONE OF YOUR BEST MASH UPS...
I won’t be surprised if someone in Strange New Worlds appears as another incarnation of Agent Daniels. Or a retcon of a random TOS background character. Man I love Daniels.
They should bring back the enterprise actor: Matt Winston, but now.
Man, Agent Daniels served on 2 Enterprises. That weren’t sequential. Lucky man.
Every Major Grin mashup is infinitely better than STD
I need to give Enterprise another watching.
The faction from 2024 is going to all other time periods, trying to destroy everything, and rewrite history!
Would that be Romulans mucking with the dating of our Eugenics Wars, or someone from the Terran Confederation timeline trying to preserve their own existence?
*You have successfully fixed Star Trek: Picard and Star Trek: Discovery....I award you one Middle-Aged Man Seal of Approval!!*
Give this man 2 Oscars, just in case he loses one he has another one for back up!
It is hilarious that the final episode of Enterprise had better ratings than "The Acolyte" and "Discovery"
Rightfully so
@@jonathanz.9675 Nah, it wasn't great but that show was brigaded hard. I saw more racial slurs in the trek fanbase in the last 4 years than I had in the entire 20+ years previously. Damn good thing the net was still in it's infancy when Deep Space 9 came out or we'd have never gotten past season 2 of it.
Good comment @@tanepukenga1421
Enterprise wasn't behind a paywall.
Thank you for resting the time line! Lol awesome mash up.😅
Loved the sneaky Stargate SG1 shot 😆
its like poetry
It rhymes on the beach….where everyone is in LA.
It is like poetry!
'I think I might've gone too far in some places.'
Enterprise going back in time to destroy discovery is a comforting head canon. Thank you.
I love how they know their show is disaster so trhey keep aiming to our sentiment to old charasters .They did same shit in picard .
The sad irony is that the people who would respond to memberberries like that are long gone. The only ones left are people who think shoot-em-up crap like Star Trek Fleet Command is high art.
3rd season of Picard was good (7.5/10)
@@mariooli9268 yeah?? Especialy the end where they copy star wars and death star
@@mariooli9268 👄💩
I was really surprised that they didn't find a way to shoehorn Q into this horrible series.
It's like poetry; it rhymes.
as a friend said a few weeks ago, "Discovery isn't for anybody."
It is not for Star Trek 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nobody wants an STD!! LOL
There should be a Show about this 😬
Nice HD work on the ST:E scenes. Sharp!
Hilarious and very well done!
Doing Enterprise dirty at any chance they get...
Ready quantum torpedoes. Lock onto Discovery and *fire!*
I like the sg1 episode at the pyramids
"Mr. Worf destroy that thing!" Picard destroying the USS Discovery could have been the greatest moment in Star Trek history!
What got me was that he was wearing GLASSES.... When they had Retnax V....."They make me look smart..." Oahkay.....
Woman: "What are you doing?"
Ensign Hughie Boimler: "Rrriker!"
What is the Editing in this Video?!?!? …I love it
5:20 Oh Major Grin, you crowd pleaser ❤
The USS enterprise E destroying Discovery perfect lol 🤣🤣
Great mashup
Discovery being an anomaly from the Temporal Cold War that Daniels corrects would have been a cool storyline, if the rest of the series was.. watchable. Also, why is Daniels' tech so much better on ST: Enterprise than in Discovery?
Because Discovery is terrible and should be discarded like everything else from 2017 onwards (some might even say 2009 onwards, or even 2001 😆).
@@richardched6085 2009 onwards
Because it's a series and the effects improve over time. Apart from that, Discovery had more money at its disposal.
@@Connermacloud the question was why effects from 2002 were better than effects from 2024. Your answer makes no sense lol.
I loved the Monk reference!
Awfully bold for a woman named Michael to accuse somebody else's name of being fake.
I bet this was cathartic to make
where does that Shatner footage come from lol
I think that footage is from Tek Wars.
This is great in itself - seamless.
People have speculated that is Geordi's visor on the shelf. However, there is another starfleet officer with a very similar visor.
It seems like STD is trying to change history, and wipe out the older Trek franchises. Yikes, talk about non-art imitating life!
Are those Star Gate Jaffe in 2:43? 😅
Mulgrew at the end
daniels would be 190 years old by disc season 3/5? !??!!
if he's from 3051 and assuming he was 40 at the time ... he's 3011
Archer asked Daniels if he was human. Daniels responded, "Yes. In a manner of speaking."
So Daniels might be descendented from a lot of other alien species. Maybe one of them is Vulcan since they can live up to 200 years. However, since he looks human, maybe a lot of his human ancestors' genes keep him looking human. Or the 32nd century Federation's medical technology and practices have improved so much that he can live for centuries, if he chose to do that.
If McCoy could be 140 by the time of TNG and still be able to think, walk and talk, there's no reason why medicine a millennium later won't be able to extend the life of humans far beyond that of, say, Vulcans. Life extensions therapies were already known by the time of both TOS and TNG, but were crude or impractical, I guess they were able to refine them later on.
I love the Peter Bogdonovich guy
So are Daniels like time james bond agents.
I feel like the writer that skimmed the material, legit thought crewman Daniels and the LT, were the same. How could Silik hear anything! She was whispering all the time, and had his enhanced abilities removed. Good job Burnham!
Were those Jaffa in Egypt? A Star Trek/Stargate crossover episodes would have been awesome!
Oh I was hoping you would get the Enterprise E to do that 😂
5:24 When I see a cockroach in the house.
Jesus, this video is off the rails.
Makes more sense than Star Trek Discovery :D I thought you'd connect Kovich/Daniels collecting souvenirs with that guy, Berlinghoff Rasmussen.
I admit I had no idea what I was watching until it all came together at the end with Picard ordering the destruction of the Discovery. Although it started to crystallize for me that it was parody when Shatner said “kick the fucker’s ass”.
Is there more Yor episodes? or was that just a mention?
Some context for those who haven't seen it and absolutely never will?
So he's not the dude from "A Matter of Time" either? Ya know I thought there could have been a connection Daniels/Kovitch...
There is something beautiful about the Enterprise E destroying the ship that must not be named.😂
The only thing good about STD is that it made the story of Captain Pike and Strange New Worlds possible.
I think the character of Daniel’s should have been Supervisor 194, codename Gary Seven. Also with Roberta Lincoln with him.
Where's the second clip from? I recognise the Daniels talking with Archer in clip 3 but not the one talking to Riker or Picard. Are they the same man or different? Is Daniels also a code name?
We needed a Generations Data fist pump after Discovery was destroyed.
I see Stargate SG1 :)
Omg you had Dr. Culber with Generation's bad scientist guy then showed Deanna
Guardian of forever is also Kovich.
its so Good!
Was that a Black Donnellys clip right at the end?
this is brilliant
I’m not sure if it’s the same daniels.
Fantastic!
Is the burn related to the flux in dr who? If so the universe needs some antacid stat.
I wonder what they were actually going to have the suit man be. With the show being canceled suddenly they had to reveal the mystery and Daniels is the only option that made any sense at all and had a connection to anything.
But this only further raises the ridiculousness about the loss of time travel technology because it shows that there are still people alive that know how to make it.
The many faces of Daniels…
Discovery even ruined Daniels. What a shame.
Maybe whoever Daniels worked for had tech to switch bodies as well XD.
One of the unfortunate things about them banning time travel, although that’s pretty understandable, is that they would likely have had to destroy their timeships, which is one of my most favorite parts of the series. I’d imagine Section 31 (if they’re still around) might have kept some or something.
4:10 a CSI crossover?
Wonderful!
Well to be fair, that's how they fixed the timeline in star trek voyager in the episode year of hell, which sounds like a subtext to discovery in its name alone really.
These is also edit video suliban interacting with captain burman who didn't even complete her high School 😂
They ripped that scene with the guy in the bowler hat straight from Hitchhikers guide where they first met slartybartfast.
I am glad it goes back from first contact if not the coward bit would come in 1:06
Major Grin saves the multiverse again! ❤
Great finale, well done Enterprise!
2:30 I'm not sure I ever realized how stupid this is. All anyone would have to do is alter the past while covering their tracks (the opposite of this would be standing out like a sore thumb like when Sisko took over the role of Gabriel Bell). The new events they created would become a normal part of history and no one would ever be the wiser.
I love that DS9 did a callback much later in the show, where Nog has this PADD about Earth history, sees Graham Bell and immediately notices that he looks a lot like Sisko.