Skip: "The Celtics after sweeping Jordan said that was God disguised as M.J. The Spurs didn't say that about LeBron after sweeping him in the finals." 😂😂😂😂😂 That comment had me cracking up.
Shannon put his foot in his mouth when he said "He beat the team you were on!!" He forgot that Celtics team with Eddie House beat the brakes off Lebron. This is one of the few times Shannon got owned.
Lol the hypocrisy from Shannon. He loves to marginalize Jordan's rings but whenever Tony Gonzalez comes on the show and they debate who was the better TE, the very first argument Shannon goes to is the "I have rings and you dont" argument
Antonio Sanders Bill Russells stats and individual accomplishments and accolades are nowhere in the same stratosphere as Jordan... Also Bill Russell was not even the best player on that team all 11..?
Antonio Sanders Thank you... When LeBron has a scrub team he needs more help and doesn't have the firepower to beat the legendary Spurs... But the same exact thing happens to Jordan vs the Legendary Celtics... He lost in the first round and got swept.... Lucky for LeBron he never faced the Spurs in the first round of the playoffs because he was in the east and not the west... If they were in the same conference the same exact thing would take place just like in the finals
@@cincyohio1946 That shows, that you have no understanding in Basketball... Because you don't like someone doesn't make him trash. That's a mindset of "trash-people" ;-)
I mean unless he gets 2 more rings and about 1 more mvp u can say he’s right here there with him 🤷🏾♂️ I mean u can say he’s better cuz if achievements and records his broken
LeBron also started his career out of high school, while Michael went and won an NCAA title and started his career later, and still outpaces him in almost every single category.
Really? LeBron has more points, rebounds, assists, higher field-goal percentage with less shot-attempts than Jordan, higher 3-point percentage with less shot-attempts than him, 4 rings (only 2 less rings than Jordan), been to the Finals 4 more times than Jordan (10), and he outpaces him in every category? Either you are blind, delusional, or just hating.
Im assuming he means in times it took for him to get there. Like it took jordan less seasons to set the benchmark vs lebrons. Since lebron tends to lead only because of longevity.
Shannon Sharpe is to emotional with his love for Lebron that can't be objective and therefore has to disrespect Jordan's greatness in order to fit a narrative that is weak and flawed.
@@whatchuon6816 its all the same don't even matter each person will try to destroy the other players Legacy while trying to build up their own favorite players Legacy
Players who averaged more points than LeBron in the finals: 1. Tony Parker 2. Nowitzki 3. Jason Terry (breh) 4. Wade 5. Bosh 6. KD(twice) Players who averaged more points than Jordan in the finals: ......pending...... 0
Jason Terry! Ha! That was a funny playoffs. "Now we need to see if (the great) LeBron James can stop Jason Terry!" He couldn't. And he couldn't score either.
@Daniel E wow with all the stuff you could come back you use that one lol no game 7 so dose MJ rings count for more THEN RUSSEL C THEY went to game 7 and won 11 dose it beat Horry who won 7 rings his games went to game 7 to still more then MJ 6 so go on with your made up stats
I know right, because assists, rebounds, efficiency, etc don't matter at all. basketball is all about points, which is why Carmelo Anthony the true goat
Really struggle to see how Le Brons name gets mentioned next to The Goat. Bulls come so close to makeing finals with a absolute rubbish team and only one player in MJ. There’s was absolutely no other player helping at both ends of court!!!!
Shannon Let me answer your question. Lebron James played with Ben Wallace, who is a 4 TIME Defensive Player of the Year. Ben Wallace was 33-34 years old when he played with Lebron for 2 years Dennis Rodman was 35-37 when he played with Jordan. So Shannon, PLEASE dead that argument.
@@realgilla108 Lebron doesn't want to coached...he thinks he's smarter than any coach...but he lost 6 finals, I guess he's not that smart....Phil wasn't a mentor....MJ was great before Phil was the head coach
Phil Ohlrogge it’s good because he quit twice on his team. Can’t get pass old Celtics(boom Miami) Can’t get pass old Spurs (boom Cavs). Don’t say the dude got no help he had 14 all stars teammates in total.
Jordan vs LeBron Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has: •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more offensive help, example: Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring * In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago” •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games. Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games. Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018) •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. •Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy. Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. MIchael Jordan: •NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg •Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY •Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series: 41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals •Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88) •Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES. •Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998) •Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season * He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98) •One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87) * Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this. •MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice! •In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career… Remind me again...who is the GOAT?
313ado 1/9 playoffs 3 first round exits Killers on defensive side lebrons good teammates only played offense, Kyrie, Wade, love, James Jones. Mj had killers defensively Horace grant, pippen, dennis. LeBron only players to have total 30k 8k and 8k. I'll remind you LBJ the goat
House: You can’t go to the finals ever year Shannon: Lebron going! House: Not Every year Shannon: 8 in a row House: But that ain’t every year That part had me rolling 👌🏽🤣
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 LMFAO. Only reason Houston won those 2 chips is cause jordan was outta the league, and I know it. Houston should have made 2 rings for jordan
Juan Tijerina... As much as I like MJ, he wouldn’t have won 8 straight championships. He lost the fire and had “nothing to prove”, his own words. MJ had to leave to regain it. Without the fire and passion, he would’ve lost to hungrier teams. 95 Rockets who beat Shaq’s Magic 4-0 in the Final would’ve been MJ’s toughest Finals competition ever. MJ is the GOAT but it’s not impossible. And Rodman didn’t join till 96.
@@abuabdullah8545 Jordan played in triangle and averaged 6 a game ... he had 11 assists a game in the 90s finals lol when he was coming off doug collings
@@bradlyfan still has a higher eog shooting percentage no Matter how many seasons. This clutch and killer mentality thing is a nostalgia and great marketing
@@philohlrogge4207 really? Would you rather here a comment from a guy who just watches LBJ play or a guy who played with LBJ and learned as well from guys who played against both LBJ and MJ? Pick your poison man cause you keep on defending your king like shannon sharpe but are not even looking at reality
When I first heard someone say Lebron is better than Jordan, I thought they were joking. Jordan is better without question. Jordan has: - 3 more rings - 3 more finals MVP - 2 3-peats - 1 more season MVP - 4 more All-defensive 1st teams - 3 more All-defensive teams (total selection) - Won a DPOY (Lebron never did this) - 9 more Scoring Leaders - Won Steals leader 3 times (Lebron never won one) - Lebron took longer than Jordan to reach his playoff points record - Jordan never scored less than 22 points in a finals game. Lebron melted down in 2011 vs. mavs (8 points in 1 game), 2014 vs. spurs (air conditioning), and 2018 vs. warriors (0-4) - Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (lebron only beat 10) - Jordan never AVGed under 40% FG in the finals (Lebron did twice) - Jordan never had a teammate who AVGed over 22 points in the finals (Kyrie Irving scored 27.1ppg in 2016 finals) - Jordan is the only player ever to lead a team to the finals with only one other teammate (Scottie Pippen) AVGing double digits in scoring - Jordan never allowed a game 7 in the finals. Lebron's 2016 finals win was a 4 point difference in a game 7. - Lebron scored 30 pts 416 times in 1,117 games. Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games - Jordan is undefeated in the finals with 6 wins and Lebron has lost 6 times and only won 3 times - Jordan has had 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then did it again the next year - Has had 5 playoff series averaging at least 40 ppg - Highest scoring avg in any finals ever: 41 ppg vs. Charles Barkley's Suns in '93 - Only rookie ever to lead his team in 4 stats - Only player ever to lead in scoring, win MVP, and DPOY all in the same season - Only player ever to lead in scoring and win finals in the same season more than once, and he did it 6 times - 1 of 2 players ever to drop 3,000 points in 1 season, only other player is Wilt Chamberlain - Only player to score over 40 pts at age 40 (he did it twice) - Earned All Star Game MVP, NBA scoring leader, League MVP, and DPOY in the same year ('88) - Jordan's AVG playoff PER of 28.6 is above Lebron's 28.28. In fact, MJ has the highest playoff PER ever. - Jordan's peak PER of 31.71 is above Lebron's 31.67. Jordan also has the highest peak PER ever. - Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron never came close to this stat line. - Playoffs stats: - Jordan AVGs 33.4 points over Lebron's 28.9 - Jordan AVGs 2.1 Steals over Lebron's 1.8 - Jordan has better Free Throws at 82.8% over Lebron's 74.3% (almost 10% difference) - Best Playoff Season: - Jordan's playoff season record for PPG is 43.7 over Lebron's 35.3 (over 8 points) - Jordan's playoff season record for SPG is 2.8 over Bron's 2.3 - Jordan's playoff season record for BPG is 2.3 over Bron's 1.8 - AVGs 1.6 offensive rebounds total career over Bron's 1.2 - In only 11 seasons with the Bulls: - 10 scoring titles - Won DPOY - 9x All-defensive team - 9x All-NBA - 5 league MVPs - 6 Finals MVPs Is the choice obvious now?
Chris Broussard said it best ..... when Mike started wining rings nooooooBody else ate chips(rings) during that time...!!! But during Lebron chip run, there has been a lot of eating Tim Duncan - ate (twice) Dirk Nowitski - ate STeph/Klay/Draymond - ate KD - ate ...... Mike left a lot of people hungry for chips during his run ... Nuff said !!!
David Lee lbj has a supporting cast. He has TT who can give u rebounds, 3 point shooter JR and Korvor, k love can give u points and rebounds. Thats a good team. It's because of lbj system that limit those players to jump shooters. That's why for years we always here lbj has no help
The finals competition is way better than back then. Spurs and Gsw was better than any team jordan faced lets be honest. 4 all stars in prime on one team.
So Lebron's body of work says he is the GOAT, Shannon? What exactly is LeBron's body of work? Play for 20 years? Bunch of rebounds and assists? Bunch of finals appearances? That doesn't make him the GOAT. LOL. Jordan consistently dominated at both ends of the floor as a SHOOTING GUARD, and his determination and will to win was unrivalled. In his prime he won the championship in EVERY FULL SEASON HE PLAYED.
@@IAMUNUAMI Kareem definitely has an argument for being the goat, Kareem has just as many rings and his accolades are just as good as Jordans, lebrt is not the goat tho, Kareem and Jordan were greater than LeBron
Who did Jordan beat in the Finals? 91: Last good "Showtime" team, a 58 win Lakers team 92: The dominant team of the West at the time, a 57 win Trail Blazers team 93: Beat a stacked 62 win Suns team (After upsetting the #1 seed in the East, a 60 win Knicks team) 96: Beat a 64 win Sonics team 97: Beat another 64 win team in Utah 98: Beat Utah again who won 62 games this time LeBron of course beat that historic 73 win Warriors team. His other Rings: 2012: The 47 win Thunder team in a truncated season, they were on pace to win 58 in a full season 2013: A 58 win Spurs team In both those cases those teams were the 2nd seeds so he avoided playing the best team from the West in 2 of his 3 championships. For Jordan only his 1st over the 2nd seeded Lakers did he not face the best team from the West those series. In 07 he lost to the 3rd seeded Spurs (58 Wins), in 11 lost to the 3rd seeded Mavs (57), in 14 lost to the #1 seed Spurs (62), and now in the 15 and 17 losses to the Warriors they were the #1 Seed with 67 both seasons so those were great teams. So yeah these last 3 seasons going against the GSWs he has run into great teams but his other 2 were against only decent teams and he lost 2 to lack luster teams and 1 against a very good but not amazing Spurs team. However in his first 5 finals the quality was overall weaker than Jordan's 6 and LeBron went 2-3 in those series. I would not ding him hard for not being able to beat those great Warrior teams but you sure can for being below 0.500 in those other 5 seasons.
Massachusetts Sports Central lebron plays in girls nba Jordan played men’s nba and he couldn’t go against a higher winning team cuz he was on it 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥MJ the goat period 👋👌
Lebron never had to go against defensive greats such as Akeem, Shawn Kemp, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Kobe, Dennis rodman, etc. Plus Bron always had a supporting cast of teammates he played with. Rodman and Pippen were defensive warriors not mainly scorers like Kyrie Ervin, Chris Bosh, Kevin Love, Russel Westbrook, Rondo, Dwayne Wade, Danny Green, Carmelo Anthony, and Anthony Davis whom LeBron have had as teammates. If Jordan had played with Shaq or Akeem because the Bulls never had a real effective Big Man and/or Larry Bird or Magic then this conversation would be totally different. Jordan is the 🐐
John Stockton guarding Jordan in 1st quarter of the NBA finals. Jeff Hornacek guarding Jordan in the NBA finals. Howard Isley, guarding Jordan and the NBA finals. Bryon Russell, guarding Jordan and the NBA finals. None of these players were able to guard Jordan as they were not athletically, gifted enough. John Starks was 6’3”. Clyde Drexler could not use his left hand. Detlef Schrempf was the best small forward in the league at the time. Nowhere near as gifted as Kevin Durant is, or was. Jordan is great. But who was the second best guards and forwards in the league? The second best guards and forwards are not better than the second best guards and forwards in the league today.
Remember when Kobe was still playing and everybody was comparing him to Jordan. Then Kobe retired and everybody forgot about him. Now everybody is comparing LeBron to Jordan. And when LeBron retires, we'll find somebody else to compare to Jordan.
So true man!!!!! this will happen again for sure after lebron retired... comeback to your comment when lebron retired and they will compare the new star player with jordan again not with lebron...... thats FACTS!!!!
These younger basketball fans just need to STOP with their nonsense. "Centers back in the day couldn't shoot". Bill Laimbeer would EXCEL in today's game, he could shoot the 3, was like 88% from the free throw line, played D, blocked shots, and led the NBA in rebounding a couple of times. Which the kicker is, he was slightly above AVERAGE for a center in his day. He couldn't handle Hakeem, Ewing, let alone a prime Shaq. "Old school players couldn't shoot". That's the biggest piece of garbage You youngins keep spewing. Shooting has ALWAYS been an elite skill in the NBA. Jerry West played in the 60s, and he could shoot from ANYWHERE on the court. He was Steph Curry without a 3 point line. "Players today can dribble better". Another piece on nonsense. Isiah Thomas (the REAL Isiah) had BETTER handles than anyone in today's game (except for maybe Kyrie). Today's players are more flashy with it, yes. But that doesn't mean they are better or more effective. People NEVER bring up Pete Maravich when it comes to handles. He might of had the best handles in the history of basketball. He practiced by dribbling the ball out a car window while his dad drove around. I'd like to see ANYONE else do that. Bottom line, all elite players from all eras were GREAT. Jordan would dominate in today's soft defense era. LeBron would still of been LeBron in the 80s or 90s. But you need to chill with this "Players are better now garbage". Or this "bigger, faster, stronger" garbage. If everyone is SO much bigger and stronger, why don't we have a league filled with Shaq's and Wilts by now?
Great Jerry West reference. Just imagine there having been a three point line back then? Jerry scored some 25,000 plus points in his career. He would be well over 30,000 points. Oh,and he is the only player in league history to win a finals MVP on a losing team.Besides being the NBA logo.SUPERMAN LOOK A LIKE AS WELL LOL.
Derrick L Green no he didn’t lol it was taking too much energy guarding him and he needed that for offense and PIPPEN his pupil was more then willing and able to guard him being PIPPEN wasn’t the offensive threat MJ was.
It was much easier for Scottie pippen to lead the Chicago bulls when Michael Jordan retired because they already had an established head coach, they had an established offense and they had players already on the team who fit the offense Phil Jackson wanted to run... When LeBron James leaves a team that team falls apart because they rely on him alone to run the offense because they don't really have an offense...
I don't know what point you're trying to make but you basically made the point that LeBron's better because he is the team. Jordan's team is good with or without him. LeGoat 🐐👑
@@anon2414 no the point I'm making is Jordan allowed the organization to do what the organization needed to do. Just because LeBron James is able to hijack an organization to the point where they fall apart and become nothing when he's gone does not make him a better basketball player...
When he left Cleveland Kyrie had already left. Kevin Love had been neutered during his time in Cleveland to the point that getting back to the player that he was virtually impossible. It’s like having muscles atrophy from not being used for years.
@@cycleoflife565 okay but the same thing happened for obvious reasons when he left Cleveland the first time LOL. But Miami kind of went in the toilet too and the Lakers struggle when he's out... Don't get me wrong they're going to struggle without their best player but there's too much of a drop off when he's gone...
Only thing that got exposed was the obvious. MJ stans treat that guy like a deity, they didn’t do nothing but counter Shannon with more questions after he asked them some. That’s a sign of blind witnessing, kind of like a cult.
Nate Compare the stats, PER, and accomplishments. Jordan is STILL better. The networks are having a hard time swaying Lebron James is the GOAT because he doesn't have the overall stats and accomplishments to prove that he is. It is what it is.
Jordan was more than stats and trophies, he was transcendent, a clutch athlete of near unbreakable proportions. He left for two years and came back like he was never away. Even his Washington years as an individual player, as his 40s dawned, were better than they're given credit for. Even people outside the States know basketball is 'that game Michael Jordan plays'. LeBron James is brilliant, but unless he wins a string of Finals before retiring, he'll never surpass Jordan as the GOAT.
bigboat Truth is, it's not often that I side with Skip and he clearly does pick on LeBron for the smallest thing, even when he doesn't have to. But when it comes to the basketball GOAT debate, he happens to be absolutely correct.
MJ - 6 titles, 6 Finals MVP, 5 NBA MVP, DPOY, x10 scoring champ, x3 Steals leader, x9 NBA 1st Defensive team (13 season) LBJ - x3 titles, x3 finals MVP, x4 NBA MVP, x1 scoring champ, x5 All defensive 1st team (15+ seasons) Riiiiiight, it's close Shannon. FYI - Just because you lead your team in stats, don't make you great, all that proves is he is NOT willing to relinquish certain aspects of the game to his teammates because he WANTS those STATS!, if you have ever played pro, you will know that if you're not a star, you will need to accomodate the STAR. Also making the finals repeatedly means jack-all, Jerry West made it 9 times, magic made it 9 times etc, when you lose in the finals, it just means you were great in that respective conference, that's it - doesn't mean you're second best/third etc. How many DPOY did LBJ play with Shannon?? Ben Wallace rings a bell?? x4 DPOY x5 1st Defence team, x2 Rebounds leader, Blocks leader....so yeah, I think Ben Wallace is like the Rodman of that period. Only thing LBJ is close to right now is his retirement.
Why is Shannon Sharpe so jellous of MJ? Is it money? Fame? Is it because Shannon was great (amazing) but not really liked by most fans like MJ? Because he didnt change the sport like MJ did?
Sharpe isn't jealous of Jordan. The reason they talk about Lebron (Bayless) or Jordan (Sharpe) this way - is because there's a market for it... they want the clicks. Or for people to "tune-in", if anyone still has a television. (even less likely someone is watching on a TV you actually have to tune.) If *you* have formed an opinion on a subject, they can argue it, giving you the ability to agree with one, and disagree with the other... it is their show format.
Shannon. Knows deep down inside. That. LeBron is. No. Dam. GOAT. He knows. He just trying to keep youll tuned. In. He even. Admitted. It. Shannon was a. Kolby. Fan. NOT. MJ. Since they pay him of half of what to. Say. About. LeBron. So he. Ran. Wirh. It. And niw he. Halfway. Believe. Those. Lies. Sadd. Things we do for. 💰
@@jazztravis6817 Listen, I'm all for expressing yourself in internet comments the way you would in real life, but this is too much. You don't need a period every word for 50 words straight, string a phrase together damn
1.M. Jordan- undeniable G.O.A.T 2.K. Bryant- ASSASSIN 3.S. O'Neal- DOMINATING 4.M. Johnson- MASTERMIND 5.L. James-? GREAT BUT PASSIVE! Known for shying away from the moment! I really hate that I have three Lakers in my top 5!
Jordan deserved 10 mvps and only won 5, and if he didnt retire for 2 seasons in his prime he had 8 straight championships. If lebron didnt play in the two seasons in his prime with the heat he would have been 1-7 in the finals. Reaching the nba finals was way more difficult for jordan than it is for lebron. Also a lot of people think that lebron was a better passer than jordan, but jordan only avaraged about 2 less assists than lebron and it will be closer as lebron gets older and there was a time jordan played as a point guard and had about 10 straight triple doubles. Lebron also playd with 14 all stars compare to mj 6. jordan was more clutch and had over 50 present in his game winners compare to lebron 10 present, and jordan was a much better defender.
@raftel 2 the 1986 Celtics beg to differ. And besides that Jordan never played against a super team because he led the super team. And even all THAT said the 1996 Sonics and 1997 Jazz were no joke and the 1998 Jazz destroyed the 1998 Lakers who were in the process of rising.
All the stats are nice to have, but what makes michael the goat for me are all the iconic moments he had, like playing with the flue, switching hands against the lakers, hitting 3s left and right the list goes on and on. Thats what truly sets him apart from the rest.
That wasnt the flu, Lakers were not in their prime nor great, Jordan. Had his best 3pt shooting season when the 3pt line was shorter. I was alive to see it, people need to remember things on context.
MJ vs LeBron This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has •3 more rings •3 more final mvps •1 more DPOY •1 more season MVP •9 more scoring titles •3 more steals leader •3 more all defensive team selections •4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol. •800 more steals •Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10) •Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice •6/6 (never allowed a game 7) •Lebron had much more help •Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals.. Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 •MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs •MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games.. All of this accomplished in 13 seasons Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago" •Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg. (86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics. •Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line. •in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this. •the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%. •MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3% •MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3. •MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9% •MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year.. Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT. Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls: -10 STRAIGHT scoring titles, -Won Defensive Player of the Year, -9 times all defensive team, -9time All NBA, -5 league MVPs -6 finals MVPs LBJ missed the playoffs completely in his first 2 years. Jordan didnt with scrubs on his squad. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career once at 40. LBJ only played 82 games once. In 89 Jordan won the scoring title all star MVP slam dunk title regular season MVP and Defensive Player of The year something LBJ has never done. Jordan also averaged 41 pts a game for an entire Finals shootimg 50% and won. Something else LBJ never did. All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career... And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth. Check Mate.
Pretty impressive stat sheet. Of course one would know MJ was the goat fairly instantly without knowing all these stats just by comparing everyday typical plays in an 82 game season, year in year out. It is THE WAY he did things that sets him far apart from everybody else in line (as (larry bird > lbj) basically called him god before he ever won a championship).. There is this, and it describes visually what i am talking about ruclips.net/video/cWlCdvact5E/видео.html
Eddie house whaat. This dude went on one of the most savage scoring streaks in a game that I ever saw. In college. It's always stood out to me over the years
Love how Shannon says that LeBron forced pierce out of Boston but he doesn’t bring up why LeBron left Cleveland for Miami. What team was it that LeBron couldn’t get passed in Cleveland again?....🤔☘️
Yes, and when he finally beat the celtics, they were way past their prime, but I mean way past, Kevin Garnett was 35 years and like 17 years in the league, Ray was 37 and Pierce 34.
@@sil_spatafora3886 Like it is said here, only thing Lebron has going for him is longevity, you cant find anything else. Worse stats per game, worse PER, worse accolades, less rings. There is no argument you can make that favors Lebron except longevity period. Just go and search on google Michael Jordan vs Lebron James and it will direct you to Land of Basketball, Jordan just trashes this kid.
And there was one playoff game against the Spurs in 1976 where Julius dropped iirc 46 points, 24 rebounds and I believe 6 blocks to go along with 8 assists. Julius unlike LeBron-always played better as the level of competition went up.
Ezekiel Moses I mean he's had to play dynasty s like the Spurs Celtics and warriors Jordon had to play teams that we're good for one year. PS LeBron carried a team to the finnals by himself.
@@michaelgarces549 when ? In 07 he had a 15 ppg 4 apg & 4 rpg and defensive 1st team player in Larry hughs and that team as a whole was ranked #3 in defense .. last year he had Kevin love a double double machine, another Top 5 ranked defense and 3 point shooters everywhere including one of the greatest 3 point shooters of all time in Kyle korver ...when was he ever by himself?
@@michaelgarces549 PS jordans had to play all time great teams like Magic's Lakers , clyde drexlars trail blazers , Patrick Ewings Knicks, the bad boy pistons, the Charles barkely suns, Shaq and Penny's magic , & the Stockton and Malone jazz
Shannon Sharpe is annoying af on this topic lol... If you think LeBron is the GOAT fine but you don't have to consistently disrespect and try to bring Jordan down to make your point on why he is the GOAT and to make LeBron look better.....
Jordan fans respect all the greats, have clear minds and honest objective claims. Like I watch basketball, and Jordan has shown he's the goat. Something a normal person would say. But bronsexuals come in, slander all other legends and eras. Say their era is absurdly more superior and then say because of this: lebron the goat. Look at a top 10 list of someone who says lebron the goat and compare to someone who says Jordan the goat. Bron fans have guys like Kevin durant, steph curry in their top 10 of all time.
If KD hit that same style game winner that LeBron hit against Toronto, Skip would be throwing a parade how KD called glass and how beautiful that shot was. But since it’s LeBron, it’s a bad shot which just got lucky
Vedant Patel If LeBron James would of been playing the way he is playing now coming early in his career..They wouldn't have no choice but to say he is the greatest..MJ came into the league young dominating great teams such as the the Celtics dynasty and Bad boy pistons in the playoffs.. MJ was the only star on a team with crackheads before Pippen ,and still couldn't be stopped..
Does LeBron need a title this year to pass Jordan as the GOAT?
He needs 3 more.
He already past jordan in 2016
"can he stop Jason Terry?"
Bruh golden state in 7 cavs in 7 and cavs vs warriors in 7 that will end all conversation on LBJ he will be the best
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED LeoMichael Jordan still better
Skip: "The Celtics after sweeping Jordan said that was God disguised as M.J. The Spurs didn't say that about LeBron after sweeping him in the finals." 😂😂😂😂😂 That comment had me cracking up.
@T Dillinger No one even questioning that bruh. 🤷
Jason Terry grinning , and laughing on the side😏🤗😏
Trust me , Eric Spoelstra and Pat Riley and the rest of the Heat , will win NBA Chip earlier than LBJ if LBJ will ever win again
I was cracking up too when he said it
@@WeCube1898 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you're joke.
Thank you Joy for the view!!!! Beautiful 😍
Yes
Earl Watson is a lucky man
Earl Watson gonna catch you slippin'
Aaron Jackson wait earl is hitting that🤔😲
Somehow, yup. Joy's got some low self esteem evidently
Joy 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That glistening cleavage
UFFF
Christopher Ngo relax
"Bron in the front!" in the front of the most number of finals losses.
Keng. Of. Ls.= Loses. 😆
Jerry west
@@jazztravis6817 ur thinking of merry west
@@jazztravis6817 😆
Lol
Joy out here looking like a uncontested rebound
Shawn Pope 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That thang on fleet
Lol
Lol
Fun Fact: Russel Westbrook Averages 7 uncontested rebounds a game.
Joy the Goat with them bigohbits 😂
Lonnie White facts
Black Like History yessss
She bad fam
They fake. Look awful
Don't view her as an object. smh
Skip’s adlibs when LeShannon is talking 😂😂 “hmm” “yeah”
Mmm
EVERYTIME!!!
Jose Fernandez TRU🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Jose Fernandez 😀😂😁🤣😂😀😂😀😁🤣😁😁😂😀😂😂😀😂😁🤣😁 I love it
Skip sounds like Nate Diaz with that "hmm" how about that!
Shannon put his foot in his mouth when he said "He beat the team you were on!!" He forgot that Celtics team with Eddie House beat the brakes off Lebron. This is one of the few times Shannon got owned.
Wasn't it beautiful to watch..🤣🤣🤣
Joy brought the basketballs to the set..i see u girl.
Joy if u let me ill tose ur salad.nd the box
😂😂
Lol the hypocrisy from Shannon. He loves to marginalize Jordan's rings but whenever Tony Gonzalez comes on the show and they debate who was the better TE, the very first argument Shannon goes to is the "I have rings and you dont" argument
Jorge Bill Russell played in an era where there was no free agency. Nice try though
Antonio Sanders Bill Russells stats and individual accomplishments and accolades are nowhere in the same stratosphere as Jordan... Also Bill Russell was not even the best player on that team all 11..?
Antonio Sanders Thank you... When LeBron has a scrub team he needs more help and doesn't have the firepower to beat the legendary Spurs... But the same exact thing happens to Jordan vs the Legendary Celtics... He lost in the first round and got swept.... Lucky for LeBron he never faced the Spurs in the first round of the playoffs because he was in the east and not the west... If they were in the same conference the same exact thing would take place just like in the finals
Skip just completely shut down the goat debate. The truth hurts. MJ = GOAT
@@cincyohio1946 That shows, that you have no understanding in Basketball... Because you don't like someone doesn't make him trash. That's a mindset of "trash-people" ;-)
Mj the goat
wasabi 1337 MJ not the goat . Kareem is the Goat .
I mean unless he gets 2 more rings and about 1 more mvp u can say he’s right here there with him 🤷🏾♂️ I mean u can say he’s better cuz if achievements and records his broken
Wrong answer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the GOAT.
LeBron also started his career out of high school, while Michael went and won an NCAA title and started his career later, and still outpaces him in almost every single category.
Really? LeBron has more points, rebounds, assists, higher field-goal percentage with less shot-attempts than Jordan, higher 3-point percentage with less shot-attempts than him, 4 rings (only 2 less rings than Jordan), been to the Finals 4 more times than Jordan (10), and he outpaces him in every category? Either you are blind, delusional, or just hating.
Im assuming he means in times it took for him to get there. Like it took jordan less seasons to set the benchmark vs lebrons. Since lebron tends to lead only because of longevity.
if lebron played in the 90es with that type of competition he would have 10 rings easily maybe more
@@NotebookLives Jordan only really played 11 years for the Bulls so he did twice as much in half the time, so that’s the point he’s making.
@@tilemahosmichos8351 Only if he played with Jordan. If he played against him he’d have none! 😆
Shannon Sharpe is to emotional with his love for Lebron that can't be objective and therefore has to disrespect Jordan's greatness in order to fit a narrative that is weak and flawed.
Greatness? Not a word I associate with Jordan. Nothing compared to my King
Cincy 513 kinda weird for you to say that about another grown man.
@@cincyohio1946 *QUEEN
Michael D. Lancaster yall jordan diccriders do the same thing with jordan
@@whatchuon6816 its all the same don't even matter each person will try to destroy the other players Legacy while trying to build up their own favorite players Legacy
Players who averaged more points than LeBron in the finals: 1. Tony Parker 2. Nowitzki 3. Jason Terry (breh) 4. Wade 5. Bosh 6. KD(twice)
Players who averaged more points than Jordan in the finals: ......pending......
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and how many times mj lead both teams in all categories in the finals what for what what for it oh wait never
Jason Terry! Ha! That was a funny playoffs. "Now we need to see if (the great) LeBron James can stop Jason Terry!"
He couldn't. And he couldn't score either.
@Daniel E wow with all the stuff you could come back you use that one lol no game 7 so dose MJ rings count for more THEN RUSSEL C THEY went to game 7 and won 11 dose it beat Horry who won 7 rings his games went to game 7 to still more then MJ 6 so go on with your made up stats
Derrick L Green Lebron does that a lot while he's losing finals 💀
I know right, because assists, rebounds, efficiency, etc don't matter at all. basketball is all about points, which is why Carmelo Anthony the true goat
Damn shannon got murdered
Like a homeboy said...
Micheal Jordan: “G.O.A.T” THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!
lebron: (goat) “go on another team”
#fax
Thats good stuff ha
Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the GOAT.
@@IAMUNUAMI no lol
Defensive MVP, 10 tines scoring champ, 6-0 in the finals 2 3peats flawless individual
Nick Smith And Chicago become champions for the first time in franchise history .
bro LeBron is so desperate to catch the 🐐
II 3 peats, *no one will ever eclipse that* .
@@esmooth300 LeBron can't even put one together
Really struggle to see how Le Brons name gets mentioned next to The Goat. Bulls come so close to makeing finals with a absolute rubbish team and only one player in MJ. There’s was absolutely no other player helping at both ends of court!!!!
Shannon Let me answer your question.
Lebron James played with Ben Wallace, who is a 4 TIME Defensive Player of the Year.
Ben Wallace was 33-34 years old when he played with Lebron for 2 years
Dennis Rodman was 35-37 when he played with Jordan.
So Shannon, PLEASE dead that argument.
massdagod truth
Thing is though, Dennis rodman was better than ben and you know, wasn't over the hill, while ben clearly was washed
The real arguement is that MJ had Phil Jackson while Lebron really never had the mentor that Kobe or MJ did...
@@realgilla108 Lebron doesn't want to coached...he thinks he's smarter than any coach...but he lost 6 finals, I guess he's not that smart....Phil wasn't a mentor....MJ was great before Phil was the head coach
@@realgilla108 lebron follows no coach... LoL he is uncoachable
How can House keep a straight face sitting across from Joy ...
Jason Puch Because he's getting head under the table. He's set
lol. THE SPURS DIDN'T SAY THAT ABOUT LEBRON JAMES WHEN THEY SWEPT HIM IN THE FINALS.
"This Is Going To Be Your League In A Little While. But I Appreciate You Giving It To Us This Year.” Look it up
this is the only thing this show talks about and it’s always the same argument with skip
Jorge 1.4
It’s always the same argument with LeShannon.
Leshannon be right tho SS4
Nate lol no he’s not
Justin Peralta download satellite radio why better topics from those guys
Skip killed Shannon with the stats
Lebron - GOAT - Going On Another Team
That's pretty good
Pretty bad
@@philohlrogge4207 butthurt
Phil Ohlrogge it’s good because he quit twice on his team. Can’t get pass old Celtics(boom Miami) Can’t get pass old Spurs (boom Cavs). Don’t say the dude got no help he had 14 all stars teammates in total.
😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂best comment hands down🙌🙌🙌🙌😤
Yes skip you did your research and killed him 😂😂
Jordan vs LeBron
Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has:
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more offensive help, example:
Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring
* In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons
Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago”
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
•LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games.
Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games.
Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018)
•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
•Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy.
Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard.
Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
MIchael Jordan:
•NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg
•Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY
•Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series:
41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals
•Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85)
•Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88)
•Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES.
•Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
•Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season
* He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
•One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87)
* Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this.
•MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice!
•In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year.
Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:
-10 scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career…
Remind me again...who is the GOAT?
313ado Lebron
313ado LeBron fans: "BuT HE wAS 1-9 iN tHE Playoffs
DAMN! MJ all the Way!!! Not even Close!!!!
313ado 1/9 playoffs
3 first round exits
Killers on defensive side lebrons good teammates only played offense, Kyrie, Wade, love, James Jones.
Mj had killers defensively Horace grant, pippen, dennis.
LeBron only players to have total 30k 8k and 8k. I'll remind you LBJ the goat
Ninito-_- DaNoob that's all you got?
Ugh. This is getting old.
hodgek1998 don’t watch, what’s up with you virgins literally reading the title, realizing what it’s about and still watching and commenting like wtf?
Demarcus Jackson lol
Yes it is..one is more accomplished and the other is more dominant in HIS ERA..bottomline
hodgek1998 it was old last year
hodgek1998 real old
House: You can’t go to the finals ever year
Shannon: Lebron going!
House: Not Every year
Shannon: 8 in a row
House: But that ain’t every year
That part had me rolling 👌🏽🤣
But what about the other 7?
You all know damn well if Jordan had not left to play baseball the would have won 8 straight NBA championships, get it right haters
Rockets fans get mad at me when I tell them they should thank Jordan for those Chips
Not against Olajuwon's Rockets 🚀
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 LMFAO. Only reason Houston won those 2 chips is cause jordan was outta the league, and I know it. Houston should have made 2 rings for jordan
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 everytime Olajuwon looks at those two rings he has to call and thank Jordan
Juan Tijerina... As much as I like MJ, he wouldn’t have won 8 straight championships. He lost the fire and had “nothing to prove”, his own words. MJ had to leave to regain it. Without the fire and passion, he would’ve lost to hungrier teams. 95 Rockets who beat Shaq’s Magic 4-0 in the Final would’ve been MJ’s toughest Finals competition ever. MJ is the GOAT but it’s not impossible. And Rodman didn’t join till 96.
Skip killed sharp😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jordan had killer mentality. He was much more confident than James. Watching MJ on the court was like a paradise-like summer vacation.
Please stop this foolish goat . nonsense, cause basketball is a team
@@abuabdullah8545 Jordan played in triangle and averaged 6 a game ... he had 11 assists a game in the 90s finals lol when he was coming off doug collings
Why do his stats go down when it matters and lebron has more buzzer beaters?
@@pjwright3773 he played way longer
@@bradlyfan still has a higher eog shooting percentage no Matter how many seasons. This clutch and killer mentality thing is a nostalgia and great marketing
Skip and Eddie House killed Shannon on this debate.
They Straight up SLAUGHTERED HIM LMAO 😄😄😄😄😄
Not really
@@philohlrogge4207 really? Would you rather here a comment from a guy who just watches LBJ play or a guy who played with LBJ and learned as well from guys who played against both LBJ and MJ? Pick your poison man cause you keep on defending your king like shannon sharpe but are not even looking at reality
All Shannon did to fire back was scream nonsense 😂.
He can't argue FACTS 💯💯💯💯 I LOVE LEBRON BUT MJ IS THE GOAT!!!
I’m convinced Shannon Sharpe is on Lebron James’ payroll. Lol
He's on LeBron James' _something..._ 👀
Mj been. Gone. 25. Yrs. An. His. Name. Still. Reigns. What does that. Tell. You. Jordan is. The. GOAT. Number 1. Period.!!!!!--!!
Shannon. Don't believe. Lie.
Hahaha he paid for this..lol
@@digable_celestial_dwarfs6778 😂😂😂
When I first heard someone say Lebron is better than Jordan, I thought they were joking. Jordan is better without question. Jordan has:
- 3 more rings
- 3 more finals MVP
- 2 3-peats
- 1 more season MVP
- 4 more All-defensive 1st teams
- 3 more All-defensive teams (total selection)
- Won a DPOY (Lebron never did this)
- 9 more Scoring Leaders
- Won Steals leader 3 times (Lebron never won one)
- Lebron took longer than Jordan to reach his playoff points record
- Jordan never scored less than 22 points in a finals game. Lebron melted down in 2011 vs. mavs (8 points in 1 game), 2014 vs. spurs (air conditioning), and 2018 vs. warriors (0-4)
- Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (lebron only beat 10)
- Jordan never AVGed under 40% FG in the finals (Lebron did twice)
- Jordan never had a teammate who AVGed over 22 points in the finals (Kyrie Irving scored 27.1ppg in 2016 finals)
- Jordan is the only player ever to lead a team to the finals with only one other teammate (Scottie Pippen) AVGing double digits in scoring
- Jordan never allowed a game 7 in the finals. Lebron's 2016 finals win was a 4 point difference in a game 7.
- Lebron scored 30 pts 416 times in 1,117 games. Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games
- Jordan is undefeated in the finals with 6 wins and Lebron has lost 6 times and only won 3 times
- Jordan has had 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then did it again the next year
- Has had 5 playoff series averaging at least 40 ppg
- Highest scoring avg in any finals ever: 41 ppg vs. Charles Barkley's Suns in '93
- Only rookie ever to lead his team in 4 stats
- Only player ever to lead in scoring, win MVP, and DPOY all in the same season
- Only player ever to lead in scoring and win finals in the same season more than once, and he did it 6 times
- 1 of 2 players ever to drop 3,000 points in 1 season, only other player is Wilt Chamberlain
- Only player to score over 40 pts at age 40 (he did it twice)
- Earned All Star Game MVP, NBA scoring leader, League MVP, and DPOY in the same year ('88)
- Jordan's AVG playoff PER of 28.6 is above Lebron's 28.28. In fact, MJ has the highest playoff PER ever.
- Jordan's peak PER of 31.71 is above Lebron's 31.67. Jordan also has the highest peak PER ever.
- Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron never came close to this stat line.
- Playoffs stats:
- Jordan AVGs 33.4 points over Lebron's 28.9
- Jordan AVGs 2.1 Steals over Lebron's 1.8
- Jordan has better Free Throws at 82.8% over Lebron's 74.3% (almost 10% difference)
- Best Playoff Season:
- Jordan's playoff season record for PPG is 43.7 over Lebron's 35.3 (over 8 points)
- Jordan's playoff season record for SPG is 2.8 over Bron's 2.3
- Jordan's playoff season record for BPG is 2.3 over Bron's 1.8
- AVGs 1.6 offensive rebounds total career over Bron's 1.2
- In only 11 seasons with the Bulls:
- 10 scoring titles
- Won DPOY
- 9x All-defensive team
- 9x All-NBA
- 5 league MVPs
- 6 Finals MVPs
Is the choice obvious now?
PLUS, he had his number retired on a team that he didn't even play for. The team that Lebron went to. That's why he couldn't wear it.
3 years later and still no one can dispute that 😂
no
Factz
This was insanely cringe
Damn Joy lookin fine
Joy looking like Christmas dinner.
You need to stop
Facts
Sheut.... you mean halloween candy
Joy looks better than molly
I've never agreed with Skip more.
Shannon your'e done here.
Nope he is right here
He sound like a straight FANBOY😂😂😂💯
Taran Curry hahaha yeah
Taran Curry he sleeps with lebron pillow and blankets
@@BlackBBQChicken1998 😂😂😂
Chris Broussard said it best ..... when Mike started wining rings nooooooBody else ate chips(rings) during that time...!!! But during Lebron chip run, there has been a lot of eating
Tim Duncan - ate (twice)
Dirk Nowitski - ate
STeph/Klay/Draymond - ate
KD - ate ......
Mike left a lot of people hungry for chips during his run ... Nuff said !!!
That’s true but the game wasn’t like how it is now. And Bron still eating don’t act like he not
Ya but the game was a little tougher back in the day but LeBron hasn't had the supporting cast. Both are amazing. Just my two cents
David Lee lbj has a supporting cast. He has TT who can give u rebounds, 3 point shooter JR and Korvor, k love can give u points and rebounds. Thats a good team. It's because of lbj system that limit those players to jump shooters. That's why for years we always here lbj has no help
The finals competition is way better than back then. Spurs and Gsw was better than any team jordan faced lets be honest. 4 all stars in prime on one team.
A Cato C spurs team u said😂😂. Better than 93 suns, 96 sonics or 98 jazz. What about this fact mj never lost to a team who had only 1 all star.
Joy > MJ
Carlos Ferreira 😂
3:30 LeBron ain't in the back! Lebron in the front!!! Lmao comedic genius
Am I the only person that was staring at joy taylor?
Definitely not
I was with you! 😮
All hall thirsty
Bruh I was staring the whole time no lie
No, you are not.
So Lebron's body of work says he is the GOAT, Shannon? What exactly is LeBron's body of work? Play for 20 years? Bunch of rebounds and assists? Bunch of finals appearances? That doesn't make him the GOAT. LOL. Jordan consistently dominated at both ends of the floor as a SHOOTING GUARD, and his determination and will to win was unrivalled. In his prime he won the championship in EVERY FULL SEASON HE PLAYED.
Some Guy play defense lebron
Some Guy agreed, it's gonna take more than a few deranged, not really basketball fans to make LBJ be the goat.
How about not quitting on your guy LBJ
@@scope1767 of quitting on his team , missing more shots and committing more turnovers than anyone in the finals, and having a losing finals record
@@dandreclay8821 LeBron will go down as the greatest individual player in history. Get mad.
MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN....THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME
PERIOD
Wrong answer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar aka "Sky Hook."
@@IAMUNUAMI Kareem definitely has an argument for being the goat, Kareem has just as many rings and his accolades are just as good as Jordans, lebrt is not the goat tho, Kareem and Jordan were greater than LeBron
YES IF I COULD BE LIKE MIKE ‼️
Skips face when House mentioned LJ could get a defensive POY😂😂😂
Can we just take a second and appreciate Joy’s beauty 😍
Skip got the W on this one...
Easy work!!!!
L
Shannon will never live down that embarrassing L
Skip wins! Boom!
Who did Jordan beat in the Finals?
91: Last good "Showtime" team, a 58 win Lakers team
92: The dominant team of the West at the time, a 57 win Trail Blazers team
93: Beat a stacked 62 win Suns team (After upsetting the #1 seed in the East, a 60 win Knicks team)
96: Beat a 64 win Sonics team
97: Beat another 64 win team in Utah
98: Beat Utah again who won 62 games this time
LeBron of course beat that historic 73 win Warriors team.
His other Rings:
2012: The 47 win Thunder team in a truncated season, they were on pace to win 58 in a full season
2013: A 58 win Spurs team
In both those cases those teams were the 2nd seeds so he avoided playing the best team from the West in 2 of his 3 championships.
For Jordan only his 1st over the 2nd seeded Lakers did he not face the best team from the West those series.
In 07 he lost to the 3rd seeded Spurs (58 Wins), in 11 lost to the 3rd seeded Mavs (57), in 14 lost to the #1 seed Spurs (62), and now in the 15 and 17 losses to the Warriors they were the #1 Seed with 67 both seasons so those were great teams.
So yeah these last 3 seasons going against the GSWs he has run into great teams but his other 2 were against only decent teams and he lost 2 to lack luster teams and 1 against a very good but not amazing Spurs team.
However in his first 5 finals the quality was overall weaker than Jordan's 6 and LeBron went 2-3 in those series.
I would not ding him hard for not being able to beat those great Warrior teams but you sure can for being below 0.500 in those other 5 seasons.
Massachusetts Sports Central lebron plays in girls nba Jordan played men’s nba and he couldn’t go against a higher winning team cuz he was on it 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥MJ the goat period 👋👌
Nice. Bottom line that never gets talked about: He's been swept twice and he's the G.O.A.T? Iverson and Dame can get you one.
Lebron never had to go against defensive greats such as Akeem, Shawn Kemp, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Kobe, Dennis rodman, etc. Plus Bron always had a supporting cast of teammates he played with.
Rodman and Pippen were defensive warriors not mainly scorers like Kyrie Ervin, Chris Bosh, Kevin Love, Russel Westbrook, Rondo, Dwayne Wade, Danny Green, Carmelo Anthony, and Anthony Davis whom LeBron have had as teammates.
If Jordan had played with Shaq or Akeem because the Bulls never had a real effective Big Man and/or Larry Bird or Magic then this conversation would be totally different.
Jordan is the 🐐
And still he still in the goat conversation still in 20 th year no matter if you have a 3 paragraph on hating on lbj 🤣
John Stockton guarding Jordan in 1st quarter of the NBA finals. Jeff Hornacek guarding Jordan in the NBA finals. Howard Isley, guarding Jordan and the NBA finals. Bryon Russell, guarding Jordan and the NBA finals. None of these players were able to guard Jordan as they were not athletically, gifted enough. John Starks was 6’3”. Clyde Drexler could not use his left hand. Detlef Schrempf was the best small forward in the league at the time. Nowhere near as gifted as Kevin Durant is, or was. Jordan is great. But who was the second best guards and forwards in the league? The second best guards and forwards are not better than the second best guards and forwards in the league today.
Thank You SKIIIIP!!!
Remember when Kobe was still playing and everybody was comparing him to Jordan. Then Kobe retired and everybody forgot about him. Now everybody is comparing LeBron to Jordan. And when LeBron retires, we'll find somebody else to compare to Jordan.
Jimmy C True but Kobe is better than Lebron
Curry will be next
I just told someone the same exact thing wow lol #RealTalk
And I’m a Kobe fan but I said this lol because I’ve witnessed this!
So true man!!!!! this will happen again for sure after lebron retired... comeback to your comment when lebron retired and they will compare the new star player with jordan again not with lebron...... thats FACTS!!!!
Actually it's only bronsexuals comparing LeBron to MJ.
Lol. That is funny. Not P.C., but funny. I'm not big on P.C. anyway. Jordan = GOAT.
Word
pipen once said LeBrons the goat
tariq podolski Pippen also suffers from dementia so....
😂😂😂😂Bronsexuals
These younger basketball fans just need to STOP with their nonsense. "Centers back in the day couldn't shoot". Bill Laimbeer would EXCEL in today's game, he could shoot the 3, was like 88% from the free throw line, played D, blocked shots, and led the NBA in rebounding a couple of times. Which the kicker is, he was slightly above AVERAGE for a center in his day. He couldn't handle Hakeem, Ewing, let alone a prime Shaq.
"Old school players couldn't shoot". That's the biggest piece of garbage You youngins keep spewing. Shooting has ALWAYS been an elite skill in the NBA. Jerry West played in the 60s, and he could shoot from ANYWHERE on the court. He was Steph Curry without a 3 point line.
"Players today can dribble better". Another piece on nonsense. Isiah Thomas (the REAL Isiah) had BETTER handles than anyone in today's game (except for maybe Kyrie). Today's players are more flashy with it, yes. But that doesn't mean they are better or more effective. People NEVER bring up Pete Maravich when it comes to handles. He might of had the best handles in the history of basketball. He practiced by dribbling the ball out a car window while his dad drove around. I'd like to see ANYONE else do that.
Bottom line, all elite players from all eras were GREAT. Jordan would dominate in today's soft defense era. LeBron would still of been LeBron in the 80s or 90s. But you need to chill with this "Players are better now garbage". Or this "bigger, faster, stronger" garbage. If everyone is SO much bigger and stronger, why don't we have a league filled with Shaq's and Wilts by now?
Great Jerry West reference. Just imagine there having been a three point line back then? Jerry scored some 25,000 plus points in his career. He would be well over 30,000 points. Oh,and he is the only player in league history to win a finals MVP on a losing team.Besides being the NBA logo.SUPERMAN LOOK A LIKE AS WELL LOL.
except when Michael Jordan had to guard magic Johnson ,,,Jordan got tourched
Derrick L Green no he didn’t lol it was taking too much energy guarding him and he needed that for offense and PIPPEN his pupil was more then willing and able to guard him being PIPPEN wasn’t the offensive threat MJ was.
LeBron wouldn’t have been a LeBron back then
Lbj wouldve been good but not as good as he is now back in the day with how they played d
It was much easier for Scottie pippen to lead the Chicago bulls when Michael Jordan retired because they already had an established head coach, they had an established offense and they had players already on the team who fit the offense Phil Jackson wanted to run...
When LeBron James leaves a team that team falls apart because they rely on him alone to run the offense because they don't really have an offense...
I don't know what point you're trying to make but you basically made the point that LeBron's better because he is the team. Jordan's team is good with or without him. LeGoat 🐐👑
@@anon2414 no the point I'm making is Jordan allowed the organization to do what the organization needed to do. Just because LeBron James is able to hijack an organization to the point where they fall apart and become nothing when he's gone does not make him a better basketball player...
When he left Cleveland Kyrie had already left. Kevin Love had been neutered during his time in Cleveland to the point that getting back to the player that he was virtually impossible. It’s like having muscles atrophy from not being used for years.
@@cycleoflife565 okay but the same thing happened for obvious reasons when he left Cleveland the first time LOL. But Miami kind of went in the toilet too and the Lakers struggle when he's out...
Don't get me wrong they're going to struggle without their best player but there's too much of a drop off when he's gone...
Shannon don't want to hear aboy isaiah and Jordan's story 😂😂😂
Finally Shannon argument gets exposed on this topic
MINK Skip is too dumb to do so
Ik
Only thing that got exposed was the obvious. MJ stans treat that guy like a deity, they didn’t do nothing but counter Shannon with more questions after he asked them some. That’s a sign of blind witnessing, kind of like a cult.
Nate
Compare the stats, PER, and accomplishments. Jordan is STILL better. The networks are having a hard time swaying Lebron James is the GOAT because he doesn't have the overall stats and accomplishments to prove that he is. It is what it is.
Nate the irony of your comment is through the roof
I have no idea what they were talking about. I just seen Joy 🤗😍
Micheal beats him in
Eye test ✔
Killer instinct ✔
Rings ✔
Perfection ✔
Tougher era ✔
Leadership ✔
Heart ✔
Defense ✔
Personality ✔
Shoe sales (22 years retired) ✔
IQ level ✔
Net worth ✔
Popularity (see shoe sales ) ✔
Shannon "There's a neeeew Billy goat in town and his name is one goat James baaah" lmao 😂 I'm dead Shannon is delusional
Lies
Jordan was more than stats and trophies, he was transcendent, a clutch athlete of near unbreakable proportions. He left for two years and came back like he was never away. Even his Washington years as an individual player, as his 40s dawned, were better than they're given credit for. Even people outside the States know basketball is 'that game Michael Jordan plays'. LeBron James is brilliant, but unless he wins a string of Finals before retiring, he'll never surpass Jordan as the GOAT.
azapro911 Jordan is everything you said and more, did hr played in GSW of the 90's.
Okay skip lol
bigboat Truth is, it's not often that I side with Skip and he clearly does pick on LeBron for the smallest thing, even when he doesn't have to. But when it comes to the basketball GOAT debate, he happens to be absolutely correct.
azapro911 broke 9 times in the first round js
azapro911 now humility should cause Mike to pass the crown to Bron Bron
This was the most hilarious segment. MJ = GOAT. Sit down LeShannon. Eddie is awesome and hilarious
Coming from someone with a tag “jumpman23”; there probably isn’t any sort of confirmation bias operating here.
Facts. MJ the 🐐
@@thedeifiedjulius2310 If Eddie came on here and said Lebron was better, you would of said he was horrible and doesn't know what he is talking about.
13:43 shannon was too emotional even got the facts wrong 😂😂 "he beat your team he beat your team "
MJ - 6 titles, 6 Finals MVP, 5 NBA MVP, DPOY, x10 scoring champ, x3 Steals leader, x9 NBA 1st Defensive team (13 season)
LBJ - x3 titles, x3 finals MVP, x4 NBA MVP, x1 scoring champ, x5 All defensive 1st team (15+ seasons)
Riiiiiight, it's close Shannon.
FYI - Just because you lead your team in stats, don't make you great, all that proves is he is NOT willing to relinquish certain aspects of the game to his teammates because he WANTS those STATS!, if you have ever played pro, you will know that if you're not a star, you will need to accomodate the STAR.
Also making the finals repeatedly means jack-all, Jerry West made it 9 times, magic made it 9 times etc, when you lose in the finals, it just means you were great in that respective conference, that's it - doesn't mean you're second best/third etc.
How many DPOY did LBJ play with Shannon?? Ben Wallace rings a bell?? x4 DPOY x5 1st Defence team, x2 Rebounds leader, Blocks leader....so yeah, I think Ben Wallace is like the Rodman of that period.
Only thing LBJ is close to right now is his retirement.
G thank you very much
The funny thing was you thought that last sentence was clever you just look stupid
What's even funnier is you think that pic would make an awesome dp
G THANKYOU SIR... LOL
I like the last line... "Only thing LBJ is close to right now is his retirement."
Peace!
Why is Shannon Sharpe so jellous of MJ? Is it money? Fame? Is it because Shannon was great (amazing) but not really liked by most fans like MJ? Because he didnt change the sport like MJ did?
Sharpe isn't jealous of Jordan. The reason they talk about Lebron (Bayless) or Jordan (Sharpe) this way - is because there's a market for it... they want the clicks. Or for people to "tune-in", if anyone still has a television. (even less likely someone is watching on a TV you actually have to tune.)
If *you* have formed an opinion on a subject, they can argue it, giving you the ability to agree with one, and disagree with the other... it is their show format.
Shannon. Knows deep down inside. That. LeBron is. No. Dam. GOAT. He knows. He just trying to keep youll tuned. In. He even. Admitted. It.
Shannon was a. Kolby. Fan. NOT. MJ. Since they pay him of half of what to. Say. About. LeBron. So he. Ran. Wirh. It. And niw he. Halfway. Believe. Those. Lies. Sadd. Things we do for. 💰
@@jazztravis6817 Listen, I'm all for expressing yourself in internet comments the way you would in real life, but this is too much. You don't need a period every word for 50 words straight, string a phrase together damn
@@buttistedsuidice3296 he can’t 🤦🏿♂️😭
@@jazztravis6817 bron is the goat mj was not that good
1.M. Jordan- undeniable G.O.A.T
2.K. Bryant- ASSASSIN
3.S. O'Neal- DOMINATING
4.M. Johnson- MASTERMIND
5.L. James-? GREAT BUT PASSIVE! Known for shying away from the moment!
I really hate that I have three Lakers in my top 5!
Bellmane .45 Bird is great! And I think he's in the top 10 all-time #6
Bird top 2 for me lol
Then take Shaq out😂😂
Shaq is no way #3 after he left LA he was washed
Lol..list. Garbage
Joy Is Lookin Like A DAMN MEAL.
MJ laughing at this
Le shannon is reaching lol... Eddie house just crapped on his front yard... While he was there watching lol...
Jordan deserved 10 mvps and only won 5, and if he didnt retire for 2 seasons in his prime he had 8 straight championships.
If lebron didnt play in the two seasons in his prime with the heat he would have been 1-7 in the finals.
Reaching the nba finals was way more difficult for jordan than it is for lebron.
Also a lot of people think that lebron was a better passer than jordan, but jordan only avaraged about 2 less assists than lebron and it will be closer as lebron gets older and there was a time jordan played as a point guard and had about 10 straight triple doubles.
Lebron also playd with 14 all stars compare to mj 6.
jordan was more clutch and had over 50 present in his game winners compare to lebron 10 present, and jordan was a much better defender.
@raftel 2 the 1986 Celtics beg to differ. And besides that Jordan never played against a super team because he led the super team. And even all THAT said the 1996 Sonics and 1997 Jazz were no joke and the 1998 Jazz destroyed the 1998 Lakers who were in the process of rising.
raftel 2 jordan beat more 60 win teams then lebron , he also led the league in scoring 10 times to lebrons 1
3:02 How do you keep a straight face after that? Lmao
I love that joy is getting in on the arguments in this segment but she gotta do it more.
she knows her stuff
Joy don't know nothing man believe me
All the stats are nice to have, but what makes michael the goat for me are all the iconic moments he had, like playing with the flue, switching hands against the lakers, hitting 3s left and right the list goes on and on. Thats what truly sets him apart from the rest.
That wasnt the flu, Lakers were not in their prime nor great, Jordan. Had his best 3pt shooting season when the 3pt line was shorter.
I was alive to see it, people need to remember things on context.
home guava 25 straight on Detroit too
Horizon _95 besides that, Jordan NEVER quit on his team. I thought that after the San Antonio beat down.
Shannon thinks talking over people with random non facts makes him right.
Horizon _95 Jordan wasn't a great 3 point shooter
MJ vs LeBron
This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more help
•Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals..
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
All of this accomplished in 13 seasons
Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago"
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:
-10 STRAIGHT scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
LBJ missed the playoffs completely in his first 2 years. Jordan didnt with scrubs on his squad. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career once at 40. LBJ only played 82 games once. In 89 Jordan won the scoring title all star MVP slam dunk title regular season MVP and Defensive Player of The year something LBJ has never done. Jordan also averaged 41 pts a game for an entire Finals shootimg 50% and won. Something else LBJ never did.
All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career...
And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth.
Check Mate.
Pretty impressive stat sheet. Of course one would know MJ was the goat fairly instantly without knowing all these stats just by comparing everyday typical plays in an 82 game season, year in year out. It is THE WAY he did things that sets him far apart from everybody else in line (as (larry bird > lbj) basically called him god before he ever won a championship).. There is this, and it describes visually what i am talking about ruclips.net/video/cWlCdvact5E/видео.html
You're 100% correct, great video and beautiful to watch
I dare anyone to show me any basketball footage as visually stunning..It just doesn't exist..it was routine for this guy..GOAT and not even close..
Eddie house whaat. This dude went on one of the most savage scoring streaks in a game that I ever saw. In college. It's always stood out to me over the years
Shannon yeah lol; Skip "he's afraid of the dunk contest" lmao 😂
Love how Shannon says that LeBron forced pierce out of Boston but he doesn’t bring up why LeBron left Cleveland for Miami. What team was it that LeBron couldn’t get passed in Cleveland again?....🤔☘️
BAMBI The vacuum cleaner 5000 exactly bro..hahaha..
Interesting how you said Lebron, and not the Cavs because Lebron was that whole team and nobody can win it all by themselves.
Yes, and when he finally beat the celtics, they were way past their prime, but I mean way past, Kevin Garnett was 35 years and like 17 years in the league, Ray was 37 and Pierce 34.
Ness Rosenbrad but what about when LeBron had helped in Miami and his finals record 2 -2
Eddie House putting it down on Shannon!! ahahahahah i am dying! Joy my god my heart
MJ never got tired to the point it affected his excellence ...
Exactly. Kobe. Either
Shannon got owned by Skip!
Good stats, Skip!
Shannon... Give it up... Lebron's not the GOAT!
MJ is the GOAT!
Peace!
Other way around
lebron the goat
@@sil_spatafora3886 you are hilarious
Cristiano sports ception lol okay minecraft gamer
@@sil_spatafora3886 Like it is said here, only thing Lebron has going for him is longevity, you cant find anything else. Worse stats per game, worse PER, worse accolades, less rings. There is no argument you can make that favors Lebron except longevity period. Just go and search on google Michael Jordan vs Lebron James and it will direct you to Land of Basketball, Jordan just trashes this kid.
Damn Skip destroyed Shannon bottom lip mustache Sharpe😂😂
DAMN! AGAIN WITH THIS TOPIC... CAN'T WE JUST AGREE THEY BOTH ARE GREAT IN THEIR OWN WAY... #FindSomethingElseToTalkAbout
And there was one playoff game against the Spurs in 1976 where Julius dropped iirc 46 points, 24 rebounds and I believe 6 blocks to go along with 8 assists. Julius unlike LeBron-always played better as the level of competition went up.
Shannon needs to give it up, he has no argument
Hes just as dumb as ryan hollins
Gene Yumang “MJ and Kobe couldn’t fill lebrons shoes” headass 😆
Corey Appiah bro when shaq and max both put their heads down i died 😂😂😂
Shannon is a HATTA. MJ
Shannon Sharpe “When Ray hit that shot on Skip Bayless” lol classic.
Also back then they played back to back games
HOW DARE YOU HOW DAREEEE YOU SAY THAT
THAT IS BLASPHEMOUS
Do you realize how hard it is for 3 grown men to hold eye level sitting at that table? Damn you, Joy!
We really ignoring the true goat and that's one gahdamn fine as a joy taylor
“When ray hit that shot on Skip Bayless”
I’m dead.
If that really had happened, Skip would've loves it and brag and cherished the time when Ray Allen scored on him for the rest of his life 😂
in fact ben wallace was a 4 time defensive player of the year.
"Where his damn respect at ?"
Dwight Howard also 3 time defensive player of the year
Can’t be the GOAT in your sport if you have a losing record in the championship round🤷♂️
But you can be the logo of the NBA with a losing record?
LeBron is the GOAT... at losing NBA finals lol
Ezekiel Moses I mean he's had to play dynasty s like the Spurs Celtics and warriors Jordon had to play teams that we're good for one year. PS LeBron carried a team to the finnals by himself.
@@michaelgarces549 when ? In 07 he had a 15 ppg 4 apg & 4 rpg and defensive 1st team player in Larry hughs and that team as a whole was ranked #3 in defense .. last year he had Kevin love a double double machine, another Top 5 ranked defense and 3 point shooters everywhere including one of the greatest 3 point shooters of all time in Kyle korver ...when was he ever by himself?
@@michaelgarces549 PS jordans had to play all time great teams like Magic's Lakers , clyde drexlars trail blazers , Patrick Ewings Knicks, the bad boy pistons, the Charles barkely suns, Shaq and Penny's magic , & the Stockton and Malone jazz
What is stat without winning? 2 X 3P WHO COULD DO THAT... WHAT IS TRIPPLE DOUBLE IF THE END GAME LOSING?
You don't have to like Skip but he just dropped facts. It's not close
Joy Taylor...how can you not be distracted by her?
LeBron isn't even better than kobe
Kobe isn't even better than Duncan
Agree put LERUN in the WEST MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE 1 RING
Shannon Sharpe is annoying af on this topic lol... If you think LeBron is the GOAT fine but you don't have to consistently disrespect and try to bring Jordan down to make your point on why he is the GOAT and to make LeBron look better.....
MINK I honestly believe Leshannon has something personal against Jordan ..Its way to obvious at this point!!
D Whoop Right.. He has too...
Jordan fans respect all the greats, have clear minds and honest objective claims. Like I watch basketball, and Jordan has shown he's the goat. Something a normal person would say.
But bronsexuals come in, slander all other legends and eras. Say their era is absurdly more superior and then say because of this: lebron the goat. Look at a top 10 list of someone who says lebron the goat and compare to someone who says Jordan the goat. Bron fans have guys like Kevin durant, steph curry in their top 10 of all time.
But yall do that with Jordan
thats what skip does to lebron in the same argument
The best debate yet
If KD hit that same style game winner that LeBron hit against Toronto, Skip would be throwing a parade how KD called glass and how beautiful that shot was. But since it’s LeBron, it’s a bad shot which just got lucky
Vedant Patel If LeBron James would of been playing the way he is playing now coming early in his career..They wouldn't have no choice but to say he is the greatest..MJ came into the league young dominating great teams such as the the Celtics dynasty and Bad boy pistons in the playoffs.. MJ was the only star on a team with crackheads before Pippen ,and still couldn't be stopped..
Shannon got murdered lol. RIP Shannon
Michael J. Jordan will always be the Goat 🐐 Not LeSweep James
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I come back to the old Undisputed videos to see Joy Taylor 😍