I'd say the 4K is the definite winner here. The Corvette's headlights are completely blown out on the 2011 Blu-ray at 1:14 while the details are clearly visible in the 4K version.
@ digital noise reduction algorithms have gotten much better in the past decade. Block-matching with 3D spatial filtering and temporal filtering (BM4D), and neural network-based method Video Non-local Denoising by CNN (VNLNet) and Video Non-local Bayesian (VNLB), are incredibly advanced denoising methods, and far more effective at preserving features than just a gaussian blurring. I guarantee one of those algorithms were used to smooth the film grain, a 20 year 35mm print is going to have more grain than what was presented. It's completely unavoidable.
@ I agree, but my point is that the 4K release of The Big Lebowski is unnaturally sharp for a scan of a 20 year old film source. The biggest issue is that when Eastman film (what The Big Lebowski was filmed on) degrades, it takes on a reddish hue and extensive color grading is essential. This color grading seriously intensifies any grain present. I've run VNLB and VNLNet on 4K fan scans of older films, and the results are extremely well preserved. The sharpened film is then color graded, and the extracted film grain is then added back into the film scan. I suspect that the intensity of the film grain was reduced as well before it was added back into the Big Lebowski. Check out Vinegar Syndrome Blu-Ray releases for examples of film scans in which the grain was not extracted before color grading. The grain is INTENSE and is seriously distracting at times.
In some scenes the colors in 4K look much natural than the blu ray...still I loved how the "blue lightning" was looking so much cooler during the Bridge ransom drop off in the blu ray. Excellent film and I will watch it in any format😂
I had to find a 4K blu ray I own in your uploads because most of your comparisons of discs I haven't seen make 4K look dingy and weirdly tinted?! Not sure if it's your capture method, RUclips or HDR/SDR conversion, but many 4K screenshots look awful, and nothing like watching the actual disc 🤔
Why do the screenshots look so different from the actual disc? An issue processing HDR? Also the sharpness/details is lower on all the Blu-ray and 4K UHD screenshots. Both the Blu-ray and 4K UHD Blu-ray look considerably better than these screenshots.
I strongly disagree with that. The Blu-ray is easily one of the worst transfers out there, with horribly crushed blacks and clipped highlights, washed out colors, and awful DNR that makes the entire picture look soft and waxy. Even the old HD DVD is miles ahead of the Blu-ray in every conceivable way. The 4k on the other hand is easily the sharpest, with the most highlight and shadow detail, the best contrast, the richest colors, and it's approved by cinematographer Roger Deakins: www.rogerdeakins.com/post-the-di/the-big-lebowski-uhd-bluray/.
Think I prefer the 2011 at least as it shows up here. Colors look too warm and for lack of a better word modern in the 4k to the point of counteracting the aesthetic I associate the film with
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The cinematographer says that's the way the movie was intended to look: www.rogerdeakins.com/post-the-di/the-big-lebowski-uhd-bluray/. Plus the 2011 Blu-ray has crushed blacks, clipped highlights, and terrible DNR that makes it look soft and devoid of fine detail. Even the HD DVD looks better.
The 4K looks amazing. Definitely going to be getting this!
I'd say the 4K is the definite winner here. The Corvette's headlights are completely blown out on the 2011 Blu-ray at 1:14 while the details are clearly visible in the 4K version.
I do own the 4k and the colors aren‘t off zhe like it looks in this video. It‘s probably due to HDR conversion.
The old Blu-ray had excessive DNR.
The natural grains are back on 4k.
4K has been DNR'd, film doesn't look that sharp naturally. They just did good DNR vs bad DNR.
@ digital noise reduction algorithms have gotten much better in the past decade. Block-matching with 3D spatial filtering and temporal filtering (BM4D), and neural network-based method Video Non-local Denoising by CNN (VNLNet) and Video Non-local Bayesian (VNLB), are incredibly advanced denoising methods, and far more effective at preserving features than just a gaussian blurring. I guarantee one of those algorithms were used to smooth the film grain, a 20 year 35mm print is going to have more grain than what was presented. It's completely unavoidable.
@ I agree, but my point is that the 4K release of The Big Lebowski is unnaturally sharp for a scan of a 20 year old film source. The biggest issue is that when Eastman film (what The Big Lebowski was filmed on) degrades, it takes on a reddish hue and extensive color grading is essential. This color grading seriously intensifies any grain present.
I've run VNLB and VNLNet on 4K fan scans of older films, and the results are extremely well preserved. The sharpened film is then color graded, and the extracted film grain is then added back into the film scan. I suspect that the intensity of the film grain was reduced as well before it was added back into the Big Lebowski.
Check out Vinegar Syndrome Blu-Ray releases for examples of film scans in which the grain was not extracted before color grading. The grain is INTENSE and is seriously distracting at times.
@@alecgolas8396 not really
Nice. The 4k disc is a great improvement, both in terms of actual detain and contrast.
In some scenes the colors in 4K look much natural than the blu ray...still I loved how the "blue lightning" was looking so much cooler during the Bridge ransom drop off in the blu ray. Excellent film and I will watch it in any format😂
1:12 this is what happened when you 🤬 the stranger in the 🤬 Larry!
The colours look more natural in 4k albeit warm.
The HD DVD looks better than the blu-ray, the BR must suffer from dnr. Although the 4k wins hands down.
See, UHD can look good if you are not a totally stoned colorist on an adventure
Great UHD version
I had to find a 4K blu ray I own in your uploads because most of your comparisons of discs I haven't seen make 4K look dingy and weirdly tinted?!
Not sure if it's your capture method, RUclips or HDR/SDR conversion, but many 4K screenshots look awful, and nothing like watching the actual disc 🤔
I like 2011 more
Lol, i have to say that id pick the hd dvd (even tho i own the uhd)
Just because of the hdr color grading?..
@@Lucas-up9wq yeah i think its a little too bright and colourfull
Why do the screenshots look so different from the actual disc? An issue processing HDR? Also the sharpness/details is lower on all the Blu-ray and 4K UHD screenshots. Both the Blu-ray and 4K UHD Blu-ray look considerably better than these screenshots.
Blu-ray Looks better than the 4K.
I strongly disagree with that. The Blu-ray is easily one of the worst transfers out there, with horribly crushed blacks and clipped highlights, washed out colors, and awful DNR that makes the entire picture look soft and waxy. Even the old HD DVD is miles ahead of the Blu-ray in every conceivable way. The 4k on the other hand is easily the sharpest, with the most highlight and shadow detail, the best contrast, the richest colors, and it's approved by cinematographer Roger Deakins: www.rogerdeakins.com/post-the-di/the-big-lebowski-uhd-bluray/.
The 4k is the only one worth keeping, can toss the others out ;)
The colors in the 4K screenshots look very warm compared to the other two formats. Is that how the movie is supposed to look?
I wonder why they zoomed in the frame
i think it's because old film cameras tended to have a subtle shake effect so they zoomed in to stabalize it
For me Blu Ray i Not need this Sepia Look. Color grading
Think I prefer the 2011 at least as it shows up here. Colors look too warm and for lack of a better word modern in the 4k to the point of counteracting the aesthetic I associate the film with
The cinematographer says that's the way the movie was intended to look: www.rogerdeakins.com/post-the-di/the-big-lebowski-uhd-bluray/. Plus the 2011 Blu-ray has crushed blacks, clipped highlights, and terrible DNR that makes it look soft and devoid of fine detail. Even the HD DVD looks better.
@ The softness is what I grew up on. With that said the UHD is clearly a better image, if the warmth is a lot at times.
*put a green tint over everything*
There, 4k
Yeah, well, you know that's just like, your opinion, man.
The 2009 Blu-ray is the worst here. Too much DNR...
The 2007 HD-DVD looks great, and the 2018 4K is even better.