Ennis wrote Wolverine to kind of make fun of him. He's not really into writing superheroes. I get what you're saying about it but I thought it was funny and I laughed out loud for real when he uses the steamroller on him. I thought that was hilarious. His Punisher MAX is much better than the Marvel Knights run. Check out his Crossed series if you want to see the most insane comics ever. For your next read maybe check out The Goon. If you like Hellboy I think you'll like The Goon. The art is fantastic and the stories are also great. It's one of those books that the more you read the more you like it.
Yeah, I've always felt like an outcast on this, since everyone has always seen this run as one of the best (if not the best) and I really don't see it, now mind you, I'm a huge fan of The Punisher's 2004 MAX run (plus the Born miniseries -- the 2010 MAX series with Jason Aaron/Steve Dillon not so much) and the 2011 Greg Rucka/Chechetto run (which also crossed over with Daredevil and Spider-Man during that Omega Drive mini-event), hell, I like those versions of the character and story more than Jon Bernthal's MCU version so I guess I'm kinda biased -- but I really don't like the Marvel Knights run. I don't like Dillon's art very much, nor the costume design for the character (still rocking the white boots and spandex). Tim Bradstreet has amazing covers as always and his work in this series is no exception, but his covers feel really out of place and clash against the cartoony extremism of this run -- plus, his covers/artwork carries on into the MAX series where it's much more at home and some of his best work shines (Kitchen Irish was one of the weaker stories, but the cover (from issue #12) is my personal favorite of all time. I've just always preferred Punisher to be grounded in a grungy, gritty, realism, not some inhumanly-muscled badass hammering through enemies with unlimited ammunition and fighting cliched mob criminals with no dimensions to their characters other than being mere cannon-fodder to gruesome deaths from Frank; no offense to the people who like that stuff, but to me it just comes off as edgy and immature. I prefer it much more when Frank is a fearsome home-grown vigilante, using homemade objects and complex military tactics to his advantage, dealing with the dark abyss of drug cartels, human traffickers, pedophiles, and the really corrupt politicians that work in the shadows who you just don't see when someone like Spider-Man is off dealing with The Lizard. To be fair though; this series was coming straight off of what was the copper-age version of The Punisher who (along with Spawn, Cable, Venom, and Lobo) really defined what the anti-hero was and seldom moved away from it. So, I guess this was Marvel really just starting to dip their toes and test the waters for darker things to come.
Yea I honestly expected waaay more from Dillon's and Ennis's run on Marvel Knights. You're totally right it was overly campy and cartoonish for a Punisher book, and you could tell Ennis blatantly didn't want to work on this run. Idk I just expected it to be darker I guess, with dark humor sprinkled in, as well as a better story. Thank god his MAX books were as good as they were.
The one thing I've always noticed about Garth has he would rarely ever write a superhero story except for punisher for everything that he's written for like I think a little bit of Batman a little bit of Spider-Man and a few other characters you can only write so much for him then he just bounces Island does his own thing. Bike for characters like Nick fear and really for punisher he has a way of tackling them to make them so entertaining and so far provoking that they're right of Garth Ennis is a lie of story time that he can be as Extreme as he need to but get a hard-hitting point about the he's trying to making a story about something he's talking about it really bring out the best and characters like The Punisher out that make you realize what he is at his core
nice vid bro. I'm a huge Garth Ennis fan as well, I just love his sick humor and gritty writing. Thanks for the heads up on the reprint of the omnibus gonna pick this up. Also, check out Punisher "The Cell" one-shot by Ennis if you haven't already. Easily one of my fave Punisher stories.
Being an Ennis fan myself, even I can say that Welcome Back Frank, while I like it, is absolutely batshit insane and I think it's supposed to be. But the rest of the MAX run is almost a masterpiece, including Born, the Barracuda arc, and Valley Forge being some notable examples. Ennis I think truly understands the character of Frank Castle as of reading his run of The Punisher. Edit: So this is the 2001 run you're talking of. The 2004 run is much much better. I like some of the stories from the 2000-2001 run but, like you said, it's too cartoony for my taste
I don´t know if you are into sword and sorcery but I really enjoyed the treatment Dark Horse is giving to Conan. The omnibus books, written by Kut Busiek and with Timothy Truman´s art are awesome and Conan Slayer by Cullen Bunn is also very good. Recommended.
I didn't like the way he did wolverine, he felt too much like an actual animal. The art was not very great, especially for punisher kills, it almost made me not want to read it. I enjoyed the rest of the omnibus though the punisher max hardcovers are amazing, I haven't read volume 5 since I don't have it but it's great so far. Much more brutal and unforgiving than his Punisher MK omnibus.
Honestly i loved this story it took me around 6 months to get around to reading it but i liked punisher when he wasnt over the top with the gruesome kills
Hey gem, so I just finished reading this. On the whole I have to say I really enjoyed it, it was a change up from what I've recently read (ghost rider which i also loved and uncanny x force which I was less keen on). I did like to dark humour in it but have to agree the 'old canuckle head' wasn't wolvies best writing! Next omnibus on its way is hulk by loeb which I've heard good things about! Keep up the great work mate, loving your work as always 👍
Just getting around to rewatching this vid. Kinda bums me out cuz I just picked up this Omni a couple weeks ago so I could read it before I started MAX.
I just finished this book i thought it was great but you are right it was not a good representation of wolverine keep the videos comin man youre gonna be big
Spacker is a dirogatory term for a handicapped person as they used to be termed as spastics in England I believe the term was originaly a legitimate term but soon become a negative one, it is not used any more except when in the negative. All kids of a certain age once upon a time in England and I'm guessing Ireland would call each other spackers.
Have You read Daredevill Punisher Means and Ends ? And do You have the Batman Adventures collection Because i never sow IT in your videos ? And what do You think of Batman Rebirth I Am Gotham , I Am suicide & I Am Bane ?
. OK . If You do let me know If You liked them . I read Daredevill & Punisher Means and ends and i lovd IT . And about Batman Adventures they RocK they are made afther the Iconic Cartoon . And About the 3 I Am ( Gotham , Suicide , Bane ) storyes from Batman rebirth i have a chance to get them and i was wondering If they are good . Thats why i was hopeing You read them . But i will get them i Love Batman so im shure no matter what i will EnjoY them . Have a great week . And keep the AmazinG videos comming Because i love watching them . God Blesss . Be SafE .
I read this Omnibus recently, having been able to get my hands on it from Amazon.cn. At first I was disappointed as I found it a little stupid, especially Ma Gnucci and The Russian storylines. This is was too comedic, and wasn't as dark and gritty as I remember Punisher being (having not read any punisher since the 1990's). However, it did get better as the series went on and I thoroughly enjoyed it towards the end. I am currently reading Punisher Max, and I am finding that this is more like what I was expecting. It's a little too violent in places, but it's more in-line with with character of Punisher and less of the jokiness of the beginning of the Marvel Knights Punisher Series. I don't regret buying it as it was excellent towards the end, but stuff like Vigilante Squad was rubbish imo.
Hey Gem, you mentioned that you welcome recommendations for series, I would love for you to do the Akira box set. I recently read Vol 1, and on that strength went out and bought the box set (the box was damaged a little, which is an issue many people have I've heard). Was in Nepal the other week, and whilst I have the .cbr files on my Kindle Fire HD, I thought that I'd wait to get home to reread every Volume before checking out the 25th Anniversary movie. Just got to finish Punisher Max first.
i mean is kind off a dark comedy. i think you were expecting a serius story, clasic action. when you said there were parts where the writing was bad, i think the problem for you was that the joke was about heroes that you like or a parody of the type of story you were expecting. But if anybody wants to read it and can extrac themselfs from that is a greate read.
pennyandcraig ah yes I should read that. Just grabbed the Silver Surfer Omni and read the first 2 issues. Only about 20 issues in the book. I think I’ll read Vader after.
Dude... your statue collection is pissing me off right now. Those are some classy pieces. You just rounding those up on your own, or getting some for review (if you dont mind my asking)?
Get yer kicks on route snikty snikt. I loved those Wolverine issues and how he was basically written as a joke character. If you're a serious Wolverine fan that may be a tough pill to swallow, but I thought it was hilarious.
Not a Garth Ennis fan. Boys is a horrible book. Preacher is trash. Garth is overrated. Not a superhero fan so he makes them look like crap. He goes overboard with being in raunchy. Disgusting. Punisher run had moments. Steamrolled Wolverine.. Art get better later on. He makes Punisher very powerful. Killing the Marvel Universe was a joke.
"Ma Ganucci had a bad day at the Zoo. It happens."
That comment was fuckin awesome.
Rest in peace Steve Dillon.
The first 12 issues sounds like the Thomas jane punisher.
Ennis wrote Wolverine to kind of make fun of him. He's not really into writing superheroes. I get what you're saying about it but I thought it was funny and I laughed out loud for real when he uses the steamroller on him. I thought that was hilarious. His Punisher MAX is much better than the Marvel Knights run. Check out his Crossed series if you want to see the most insane comics ever.
For your next read maybe check out The Goon. If you like Hellboy I think you'll like The Goon. The art is fantastic and the stories are also great. It's one of those books that the more you read the more you like it.
Yeah, I've always felt like an outcast on this, since everyone has always seen this run as one of the best (if not the best) and I really don't see it, now mind you, I'm a huge fan of The Punisher's 2004 MAX run (plus the Born miniseries -- the 2010 MAX series with Jason Aaron/Steve Dillon not so much) and the 2011 Greg Rucka/Chechetto run (which also crossed over with Daredevil and Spider-Man during that Omega Drive mini-event), hell, I like those versions of the character and story more than Jon Bernthal's MCU version so I guess I'm kinda biased -- but I really don't like the Marvel Knights run.
I don't like Dillon's art very much, nor the costume design for the character (still rocking the white boots and spandex). Tim Bradstreet has amazing covers as always and his work in this series is no exception, but his covers feel really out of place and clash against the cartoony extremism of this run -- plus, his covers/artwork carries on into the MAX series where it's much more at home and some of his best work shines (Kitchen Irish was one of the weaker stories, but the cover (from issue #12) is my personal favorite of all time.
I've just always preferred Punisher to be grounded in a grungy, gritty, realism, not some inhumanly-muscled badass hammering through enemies with unlimited ammunition and fighting cliched mob criminals with no dimensions to their characters other than being mere cannon-fodder to gruesome deaths from Frank; no offense to the people who like that stuff, but to me it just comes off as edgy and immature. I prefer it much more when Frank is a fearsome home-grown vigilante, using homemade objects and complex military tactics to his advantage, dealing with the dark abyss of drug cartels, human traffickers, pedophiles, and the really corrupt politicians that work in the shadows who you just don't see when someone like Spider-Man is off dealing with The Lizard.
To be fair though; this series was coming straight off of what was the copper-age version of The Punisher who (along with Spawn, Cable, Venom, and Lobo) really defined what the anti-hero was and seldom moved away from it. So, I guess this was Marvel really just starting to dip their toes and test the waters for darker things to come.
Yea I honestly expected waaay more from Dillon's and Ennis's run on Marvel Knights. You're totally right it was overly campy and cartoonish for a Punisher book, and you could tell Ennis blatantly didn't want to work on this run. Idk I just expected it to be darker I guess, with dark humor sprinkled in, as well as a better story. Thank god his MAX books were as good as they were.
The one thing I've always noticed about Garth has he would rarely ever write a superhero story except for punisher for everything that he's written for like I think a little bit of Batman a little bit of Spider-Man and a few other characters you can only write so much for him then he just bounces Island does his own thing.
Bike for characters like Nick fear and really for punisher he has a way of tackling them to make them so entertaining and so far provoking that they're right of Garth Ennis is a lie of story time that he can be as Extreme as he need to but get a hard-hitting point about the he's trying to making a story about something he's talking about it really bring out the best and characters like The Punisher out that make you realize what he is at his core
nice vid bro. I'm a huge Garth Ennis fan as well, I just love his sick humor and gritty writing. Thanks for the heads up on the reprint of the omnibus gonna pick this up. Also, check out Punisher "The Cell" one-shot by Ennis if you haven't already. Easily one of my fave Punisher stories.
Being an Ennis fan myself, even I can say that Welcome Back Frank, while I like it, is absolutely batshit insane and I think it's supposed to be. But the rest of the MAX run is almost a masterpiece, including Born, the Barracuda arc, and Valley Forge being some notable examples. Ennis I think truly understands the character of Frank Castle as of reading his run of The Punisher.
Edit: So this is the 2001 run you're talking of. The 2004 run is much much better. I like some of the stories from the 2000-2001 run but, like you said, it's too cartoony for my taste
Which Punisher runs would you guys recommend ?
I don´t know if you are into sword and sorcery but I really enjoyed the treatment Dark Horse is giving to Conan. The omnibus books, written by Kut Busiek and with Timothy Truman´s art are awesome and Conan Slayer by Cullen Bunn is also very good. Recommended.
AKA.. Hacksaw Gem Duggin
"Spacker", at least here in Australia, means Spastic. I always read this as that what he meant by Spacker Dave!
I didn't like the way he did wolverine, he felt too much like an actual animal. The art was not very great, especially for punisher kills, it almost made me not want to read it. I enjoyed the rest of the omnibus though
the punisher max hardcovers are amazing, I haven't read volume 5 since I don't have it but it's great so far. Much more brutal and unforgiving than his Punisher MK omnibus.
Eddie the Albatross his dialogue was terrible
Honestly i loved this story it took me around 6 months to get around to reading it but i liked punisher when he wasnt over the top with the gruesome kills
I agree that the wolverine in this book was like some dumb tool. Gem you gotta read the MAX stuff if you ain't yet cos that is the real shit
Does this contain the entire Punisher kills the Marvel Universe storyline?
JTwoH yessir
It may have been answered and I apologize but what is the name of your desk/table?
i got the desk from Ashley furniture
Omnibus , that have good punisher stories...??? Suggestions please..!!!
Hey gem, so I just finished reading this. On the whole I have to say I really enjoyed it, it was a change up from what I've recently read (ghost rider which i also loved and uncanny x force which I was less keen on). I did like to dark humour in it but have to agree the 'old canuckle head' wasn't wolvies best writing! Next omnibus on its way is hulk by loeb which I've heard good things about! Keep up the great work mate, loving your work as always 👍
Just getting around to rewatching this vid. Kinda bums me out cuz I just picked up this Omni a couple weeks ago so I could read it before I started MAX.
Keep the videos comming . You are the BesT .
I have this coming in the mail right now, pretty excited to read it then give those Punisher Max omnis coming out a read
Jake Nap lots of death's expect lots 😐
I just finished this book i thought it was great but you are right it was not a good representation of wolverine keep the videos comin man youre gonna be big
Are you going to get the Garth Ennis Max run Omnibus?
Timothy Yip I am. I have the OHCs now. I’ll get the Omnibus and sell the OHCs.
No omnibus escapes the Gemperor.
Does anybody know a comic book series that is similar to this but more gritty, realistic and dark?
Spacker is a dirogatory term for a handicapped person as they used to be termed as spastics in England I believe the term was originaly a legitimate term but soon become a negative one, it is not used any more except when in the negative. All kids of a certain age once upon a time in England and I'm guessing Ireland would call each other spackers.
Being a 90's kid in England - I couldn't have put it better myself mate.
You must be English?
Garth Ennis having fun with Castle, I've read some issues, looks like fun to me (nowhere near his MAX run tho, but it looks fun).
Have You read Daredevill Punisher Means and Ends ? And do You have the Batman Adventures collection Because i never sow IT in your videos ? And what do You think of Batman Rebirth I Am Gotham , I Am suicide & I Am Bane ?
man, havent read any of those.
. OK . If You do let me know If You liked them . I read Daredevill & Punisher Means and ends and i lovd IT . And about Batman Adventures they RocK they are made afther the Iconic Cartoon . And About the 3 I Am ( Gotham , Suicide , Bane ) storyes from Batman rebirth i have a chance to get them and i was wondering If they are good . Thats why i was hopeing You read them . But i will get them i Love Batman so im shure no matter what i will EnjoY them . Have a great week . And keep the AmazinG videos comming Because i love watching them . God Blesss . Be SafE .
I read this Omnibus recently, having been able to get my hands on it from Amazon.cn. At first I was disappointed as I found it a little stupid, especially Ma Gnucci and The Russian storylines. This is was too comedic, and wasn't as dark and gritty as I remember Punisher being (having not read any punisher since the 1990's). However, it did get better as the series went on and I thoroughly enjoyed it towards the end. I am currently reading Punisher Max, and I am finding that this is more like what I was expecting. It's a little too violent in places, but it's more in-line with with character of Punisher and less of the jokiness of the beginning of the Marvel Knights Punisher Series. I don't regret buying it as it was excellent towards the end, but stuff like Vigilante Squad was rubbish imo.
Hey Gem, you mentioned that you welcome recommendations for series, I would love for you to do the Akira box set. I recently read Vol 1, and on that strength went out and bought the box set (the box was damaged a little, which is an issue many people have I've heard). Was in Nepal the other week, and whilst I have the .cbr files on my Kindle Fire HD, I thought that I'd wait to get home to reread every Volume before checking out the 25th Anniversary movie. Just got to finish Punisher Max first.
I know, I keep putting it off.
Yo Gem do you ever source key cgc books from heritage auctions ?
na ive never used any of those on line auction sites
Neat how capcom made a game like final fight,street fighter
Should I get this is or the punisher max Omnibus vol 1 that’s scheduled to release??
I haven't read that run yet but it's supposed to be the best one. So I'd say go for it. I'll be getting it even though I have the OHCs.
If you haven't already, read Invisibles by Grant Morrison. Great vid as always though, keep it up bro.
good suggestion, thanks
i mean is kind off a dark comedy. i think you were expecting a serius story, clasic action. when you said there were parts where the writing was bad, i think the problem for you was that the joke was about heroes that you like or a parody of the type of story you were expecting. But if anybody wants to read it and can extrac themselfs from that is a greate read.
I'm just about to read this book, curious what you're saying about this..
Punisher is awesome and so is Garth Ennis.
BPRD series would be a good one to hear your thoughts on
Will this be a good start into reading punisher?
Yea
Got any superhero tatts, Gem? Pity I can't post up my new Batman forearm tattoo, it's pretty baddass.
Na man, I got all my tats before I got back into comics. Don’t really have room for any more.
Gemporer lol- you have to add in your new name 'statue soldier', or 'statue-GEM-soldier!!
This is honestly a must read
I can’t wait to read chip zdarsky Daredevil
2004 punisher movie was influenced by welcome back frank and punisher year one
Read the Darth Vader omni next The Gemperor! Keen to hear what you think before i buy it
pennyandcraig ah yes I should read that. Just grabbed the Silver Surfer Omni and read the first 2 issues. Only about 20 issues in the book. I think I’ll read Vader after.
my boy letting them tats breathe,,, I see you my dude... nice vid
RAG718 no shirt next time
Dude... your statue collection is pissing me off right now. Those are some classy pieces. You just rounding those up on your own, or getting some for review (if you dont mind my asking)?
haha... all pieces i bought for me
That's awesome man. I got a Mignola batman statue and a couple others, but I aspire towards your collection for sure. Great review, keep it up.
Ennis is irish
these stories are pretty bad, you should have read "Punisher Max", it is a much better written story, starting with "Born".
i did a review on that book too
@@GemMintCollectibles oh, ok,
well I thought it was really great
So jealous
Get yer kicks on route snikty snikt. I loved those Wolverine issues and how he was basically written as a joke character. If you're a serious Wolverine fan that may be a tough pill to swallow, but I thought it was hilarious.
Teen titans omnibus
Not a Garth Ennis fan. Boys is a horrible book. Preacher is trash. Garth is overrated. Not a superhero fan so he makes them look like crap. He goes overboard with being in raunchy. Disgusting. Punisher run had moments. Steamrolled Wolverine.. Art get better later on. He makes Punisher very powerful. Killing the Marvel Universe was a joke.
Dude just read punisher max
i read it some time after this. i have a review up.
@@GemMintCollectibles sweet Il check it out bro
Wow from what I’ve heard. This sounds like a piece of shit! I expected more from my man Ennis
i hear the MAX run is way better. I still need to read it.
Gem Mint Collectibles It looks il have to wait for the second max omnibus. I hate reading stuff unfinished so il wait for the whole thing to come out
im doing the same
I really think Garth Ennis has mental issues and this comic kinda proves it.