@@mrizaldi7199 - but Indonesia has never completely trusting the west and a muslin country. West East Timor as the consequence of western interference.
Those countries, i e. > VietNam, India, Thailand could possibly have their highspeed railway earlier than Indonesia, if they had approach China, since they have planned on this facility also earlier than Indonesia..
lie 120km of viaduct completed ,270 km of foundtion completed.In india the whole route is running on viaduct,unlike other countries.after completion 352km contionus viaduct will become as the longest bridge in the world beating chinas 162km longest bridge.Delay of the project in india is not due to Japanese Side,Its because of land acquistion issue.India is a densley populated country
So, who is responsible for this delay/failure, Japan or India ? Regardless of so many reasons and excuses, the facts remain the project project is now still hanging in the sky...
Japan is imperialist mentality, take example Borneo. They had entered automotive industry there 50 yrs back and what they do? NOTHING, just selling cars, and bikes to congest roads made them so awful. Before China came and want to build MRT. LRT, HSR then Japan rush to offer same proposals
@@timothychung4811Lol, 350km of viaducts, are already made and tracks 150km tracks already laid down, construction just started in 2021, because unnecessary talks and land acquisition delayed the process, the Japanese also agreed in Technology transfer, something that China would never agree. It's set to open by 2026. Chinese propaganda😂
To be fair Japanese, just like the French and German, can compete technically but may have to charge a higher price than the Chinese. Japan has outbid China to get Vietnam and India HSR projects but the low price makes the implementation even harder so one was severely delayed while the other has almost dropped dead.
are u sureeeee about that haa at least japan have masshagee and lamp for reading the book ,china dont have it just stupid fast train like a no function
@@afizi1213This entire Channel is Chinese propaganda channel, the comments are also made by people with fake accounts sitting in Chinese media offices
12:27 we know cause we born in japan influence such as anime and they culture so japan cant lose ,japan is western country in asia but more polite and smart ,we also agree if japan wanna teach use how to build and take care the hsr so it can down japan pressure
6 years only finished and the progress is 96 km (28%) of viaduct 240 km (68%) of piers work 334.3 km (94.9%) of foundation works Now only 100% percent land acquisition completed. In India it is being constructed by Indian company only trains are Japanese. It will start operation in 2026. Will fully complete by 2028.
Indonesia has decided to continue their railway to Surabaya in East Java Province, it's over 900km. But unfortunately it's depend on the next president's policy
This channel is probably the best channel in providing accurate, balanced and detailed information on China's technology and also on various issues regarding China
I don't care if this channel is a CCP propaganda channel or not as long as it provides accurate and balanced information on China's technology and issues regarding China with irrefutable evidence.
There maybe some channels that are sponsored by the CCP of China, but don't forget there are channels of their own that are sponsored by other countries as well. Not all channels which mention positive things about China are sponsored by the CCP of China. There are a countless number of channels providing information on what China truly is like and many of these channels are operated by foreigners living or holidaying in China. There are a variety of reasons as to why they do these. Some of the reasons are listed below. A. Some do so because they live and work in China. B. Some do so because they have Chinese spouses. C. Some do so because they want to make a living out of operating youtube channels as China is a hot topic at present. I have mentioned only three reasons but there are many more to it. As for the above channel I don't know whether it's a CCP sponsored channel or not and I don't care even if it's one.
Western media will never mention positive things about China. It often gives a distorted picture of what China truly is like. It's about time someone like the owner of the above channel mention what China truly is like
I remember well about 8 or 9 years ago when India announced that they are building their ever first high speed railway Mumbai-Ahmedabad 505 km and the Japanese will be the contractor to build. Indians were chanting that this line will be the most advanced system in the world because it is going to be built by Japanese. Many elderly Indians was so excited and hope to have the chance to try the ever highspeed railway at least in their lifetime in their country. Unfortunately, 6 years had passed and there is still no sign on completion. Many of these elderly people they are really disappointed and many have not lived long enough to even have the chance to try. Feel sorry for them.
@@hfcarwashLol, 350km of viaducts, are already made and tracks 150km tracks already laid down, construction started in 2021, the Japanese also agreed in Technology transfer, something that China would never agree. It's set to open by 2026. Chinese propaganda😂
@@kabir1934 yeah after the Japanese automotive companies sells more of their cars and congesting your roads maybe theyl build another 3km and technology transfer you guys their shitty first generation train yeah? 😂
@@kabir1934 it's actually the opposite in indonesia, china give technology transfer to indonesia, allowing us to make the first local HSR by 2026 with the speed of 250 kps which is still a milestone for the first HSR project, while japan? not only they refuse to give technology transfer they also increase the interest and refuse to invest on the project, thank god we choose china in the first place.
@@_martian101And Japan gave us 80% of budget in loan and full technology transfer and also next set of trains would be made in India, thank god, Japan chose us. Don't forget, China learned about high speed rail from Japan only.
China may be building HSR in Laos, Indonesia, Malaysia... but Japan would have the entire India, since India has excluded China from participating not only in HSR, but also in 5G and other hitech industries.
Just recently, China signed the Bandung-Surabaya HSR new project with a track spanning more than 700 km. Indonesia is also planning to develop 10 new innovation cities across the archipelago to foster high-tech industries and projected to become the main producer of car batteries globally after completing its downstream manufacturing project, it's safe to say that India stands to lose the most if China decides to heavily invest and cooperate with countries like Indonesia.
Are the building of bridges and tunnels. There is no need of China competing with the Japanese.,..there are more than enough Mega projects for both China and Japan to build. HARRIS NG YM 👍🇨🇳🎶🇨🇳🍷🇨🇳🌹👍
That’s exactly one reason why Indonesia drop out their proposal because they want 100% Japan material and built. Indonesia wants technology transfer not just buying and build
Following page 3:05 Nice video and presentation. Please please keep image resource in synced with message context. We saw African figure supporting context on Thailand and Vietnam. Thank you.
Thank you very much for this wonderful video. In all honesty, it serves the community. Turkey has become one of the developed countries through China. China has a very good policy, which is building the infrastructure for many countries, as well as agriculture and industry, and relying on the local currency. This is everyone’s future. For this reason, the United States of America is not comfortable, and we hope from China. We hope from China that the Chinese government will pay attention to building the railway infrastructure in Iraq, Lebanon and Syria in accordance with agreements and respect for all countries and everyone loves China. China has not participated in wars and has not supported wars. The future of everyone is to build infrastructure such as train stations, roads and bridges in Latin America and Africa as well as in Iraq. It is important and China must pay attention to this matter. Our respect and appreciation are for everyone. Everyone must agree The future of China and the future of all countries is the agreement, respect for the sovereignty of countries, and the solution of economic problems in Africa and Latin America, as well as in Asia, Europe and Canada. There are millions of unemployed people, the future of everyone. The construction of train railways connects all these countries with all cities in all parts of the world and supports agriculture and industry in all parts of the world. For the sake of everyone’s future in accordance with the agreements, respecting the agreement, staying away from selfishness and greed, and staying away from hegemony and control. This is what Britain, Europe and America did by supporting wars, and it was a big, destructive mistake for everyone. To this day, the political-economic conflict is under several names and labels. We must benefit from the mistakes.
Wah What a Opinion. What about Maharashtra Govt.? Gujarat has 7 Stations in Route And Everything Completed and Maharashtra has 4 Stations Route but Land Accusations still stucked. Yes The Problem of Modi! Why he choose Maharashtra at that time. You people never stop to Disrespecting your country in International Level. Have no Idea You're Indian or, Not. If you're Indian then It's for you and If you're not then you can Ignore this.
why japan whyy ,you just give a chine plan and chance to take over and we dont want under chinaaaa!!! uwaaa japan is so sad about export they tech to southeast asia and also india ,japan need to change ,this plan come just one no two and three ,japan need to realise that expensive is not everthing ,the everthing is relationship,imagine what happens if japan destroy world relationship,its hard to them and they economy
The deciding factor for the Indonesian government at that time was: price + knowledge transfer. Both of which, Japan does not wish to fulfill. We need technology transfer because we need to empower our own people as we expand our high-speed railway. China is willing to do that and it's far cheaper.
I think Indonesia has taken a wise decision regardless of so many politicians and so called economic experts opposition, the government confirmed to go on with the project with the main consideration that this facility is important for the people in their needs for an efficient, easy and affordable public transportations
People who are comparing Indian Bullet train project with Indonesia... Must Understand... In Indonesia Chinese workers and Chinese machines are doing the majority of work with Indonesian workers. **But in India L and T(an Indian company) is doing the construction.** Machines are also built and operated by Indian engineers. Only Chief engineer comes once a while from Japan to see progress and modifications. **So technically India is learning how to make bullet train project** **Just like we learned how to make world class Metro infrastructure** And also JAPAN'S bullet trains are safest and best in the world. "So asking for help again n again in future from Japan is not what India is thinking." That's why it is taking time. Additional info -- Indonesia's route length is 142 km with 4 stations. **India's route length is 508 km (including 21 km undersea tunnel) with 12 stations.** "Also, Undersea tunnel will be made by AFCONS which is also an Indian Company." So, it will take time. *Source-Wikipedia.
But Indonesian HSR would connect Jakarta-Surabaya 700Km+ long with whoosh (south line) and in the other hand, Indonesia also would make their own hsr by Indonesian railway company for the north line of java
difference is China agreed to indonesia request for techno transfer Whereas Japan as well as western companies are ever willing to grant tech transfer.
@@Boldtruths do you know specific agreement on tech transfer ? Is there a catch to it? Could be transfer of tech components that are outdated OR could be training on how to operate, run and maintain hsr system which are also considered tech transfer . Could also help set assembly plant for making certain spareparts n accessories but not the core hsr techno that will enable to build hsr completely on your own.
If only these countries choose China to build the high speed rail in the first place. They already have the high speed rail just like Indonesia now
Those countries have unstable economic and social governance.
@@picandvideoindonesia are very stable economic with debt to GDP ratio only 38% and inflation rate below 5% per year
Indonesia is top size economi in southeast.
@@mrizaldi7199 - but Indonesia has never completely trusting the west and a muslin country. West East Timor as the consequence of western interference.
Those countries, i e. > VietNam, India, Thailand could possibly have their highspeed railway earlier than Indonesia, if they had approach China, since they have planned on this facility also earlier than Indonesia..
Congratulations to Indonesia goverment and Indonesia people having high speed railway the first in southeast. The best in southeast 👍
Indonesia's HSR backed by China : 350 Km / Hour
India's HSR backed by Japan : 10 Km / 7 Years
lie 120km of viaduct completed ,270 km of foundtion completed.In india the whole route is running on viaduct,unlike other countries.after completion 352km contionus viaduct will become as the longest bridge in the world beating chinas 162km longest bridge.Delay of the project in india is not due to Japanese Side,Its because of land acquistion issue.India is a densley populated country
@@Jobingeo0706then it's the Indian government's problem.
No one care about your opinion.
Also India's HSR program start 2 years after indonesia.
So, who is responsible for this delay/failure, Japan or India ?
Regardless of so many reasons and excuses, the facts remain the project project is now still hanging in the sky...
Japan is imperialist mentality, take example Borneo. They had entered automotive industry there 50 yrs back and what they do? NOTHING, just selling cars, and bikes to congest roads made them so awful. Before China came and want to build MRT. LRT, HSR then Japan rush to offer same proposals
yess borneo also need hsr from japan to ,this long road is the longgest in southeast asia like from hokkaido to tokyo
Japan still hasn't finished India, how the hell are they going to continue with other projects?
That shows their abysmal capacity. 😂
10 kilometres in 6 years.
huhhh i dont know what i know japan is sad
@@timothychung4811Lol, 350km of viaducts, are already made and tracks 150km tracks already laid down, construction just started in 2021, because unnecessary talks and land acquisition delayed the process, the Japanese also agreed in Technology transfer, something that China would never agree. It's set to open by 2026.
Chinese propaganda😂
To be fair Japanese, just like the French and German, can compete technically but may have to charge a higher price than the Chinese.
Japan has outbid China to get Vietnam and India HSR projects but the low price makes the implementation even harder so one was severely delayed while the other has almost dropped dead.
They also can't match China in manufacturing capacity and efficiency. China has more high speed rail today than the rest of the world combined.
They can't compete technically, for, if they did, they would have come up with machinery to build like playing with Lego the way the Chinese have.
china manufacturing is so successful because they have great logistics infrastructure that no other countries has.
China has a scale advantage that Japan do not have.
This is true throughout the high-speed railway industry chain.
China can build highspeed train in desert, high attitude mountains , extreme weather like ice , sandstorm , Japan is way behind China
This year Indonesian govt is opening tender for its extension and feasibility study to Surabaya city, or adding +700km
Chinese trains are smooth n fast than Japanese trains
are u sureeeee about that haa at least japan have masshagee and lamp for reading the book ,china dont have it just stupid fast train like a no function
@@afizi1213This entire Channel is Chinese propaganda channel, the comments are also made by people with fake accounts sitting in Chinese media offices
Great China
12:27 we know cause we born in japan influence such as anime and they culture so japan cant lose ,japan is western country in asia but more polite and smart ,we also agree if japan wanna teach use how to build and take care the hsr so it can down japan pressure
9 years to finish 12.5%, how the hell it can be finished remaining in one year.
That's why India loves Japans so much, the longer the project the more corruption...
Japan is building the HSR in a virtual country called Never Neverland.😂
It;s due to Hindu supremacy where corruption is legal if it's Hindu
@@jameslum8822Neverland trains can fly and go underwater. Japan seems to be like the California rail. High price for absolutely nothing.
6 years only finished and the progress is
96 km (28%) of viaduct
240 km (68%) of piers work
334.3 km (94.9%) of foundation works
Now only 100% percent land acquisition completed. In India it is being constructed by Indian company only trains are Japanese.
It will start operation in 2026.
Will fully complete by 2028.
Japan build MRT, China build HSR.. fair enough
Japan is going the way of America into the dustbin of history
Indonesia has decided to continue their railway to Surabaya in East Java Province, it's over 900km.
But unfortunately it's depend on the next president's policy
This channel is probably the best channel in providing accurate, balanced and detailed information on China's technology and also on various issues regarding China
Best channel my ass😂 This is CCP propaganda channel😂
I don't care if this channel is a CCP propaganda channel or not as long as it provides accurate and balanced information on China's technology and issues regarding China with irrefutable evidence.
There maybe some channels that are sponsored by the CCP of China, but don't forget there are channels of their own that are sponsored by other countries as well. Not all channels which mention positive things about China are sponsored by the CCP of China. There are a countless number of channels providing information on what China truly is like and many of these channels are operated by foreigners living or holidaying in China. There are a variety of reasons as to why they do these. Some of the reasons are listed below.
A. Some do so because they live and work in China.
B. Some do so because they have Chinese spouses.
C. Some do so because they want to make a living out of operating youtube channels as China is a hot topic at present.
I have mentioned only three reasons but there are many more to it.
As for the above channel I don't know whether it's a CCP sponsored channel or not and I don't care even if it's one.
Western media will never mention positive things about China. It often gives a distorted picture of what China truly is like. It's about time someone like the owner of the above channel mention what China truly is like
i also dont believe at china goverment make a trap same like western country ,if japan we believe
The Chinese HSR technology is inferior. Many of their own HSR lines are having problems resulting in them having to cut back speeds and frequencies.
I remember well about 8 or 9 years ago when India announced that they are building their ever first high speed railway Mumbai-Ahmedabad 505 km and the Japanese will be the contractor to build. Indians were chanting that this line will be the most advanced system in the world because it is going to be built by Japanese.
Many elderly Indians was so excited and hope to have the chance to try the ever highspeed railway at least in their lifetime in their country. Unfortunately, 6 years had passed and there is still no sign on completion. Many of these elderly people they are really disappointed and many have not lived long enough to even have the chance to try. Feel sorry for them.
Give it 30 yrs may start building
@@hfcarwashLol, 350km of viaducts, are already made and tracks 150km tracks already laid down, construction started in 2021, the Japanese also agreed in Technology transfer, something that China would never agree. It's set to open by 2026.
Chinese propaganda😂
@@kabir1934 yeah after the Japanese automotive companies sells more of their cars and congesting your roads maybe theyl build another 3km and technology transfer you guys their shitty first generation train yeah? 😂
@@kabir1934 it's actually the opposite in indonesia, china give technology transfer to indonesia, allowing us to make the first local HSR by 2026 with the speed of 250 kps which is still a milestone for the first HSR project, while japan? not only they refuse to give technology transfer they also increase the interest and refuse to invest on the project, thank god we choose china in the first place.
@@_martian101And Japan gave us 80% of budget in loan and full technology transfer and also next set of trains would be made in India, thank god, Japan chose us. Don't forget, China learned about high speed rail from Japan only.
Probably japan is in aging process …. Avoid to taking the risk …
we need to make japan realise they dont have so many times
China is also aging, median age is 40😂
quality comes at a price, tajmahal took 20 years to built, china has china wall, that is just a wall, but India has Tajmahal , its quality vs quantity
India's quality is world class just like the Sultanganj-Aguani Ghat bridge
China may be building HSR in Laos, Indonesia, Malaysia... but Japan would have the entire India, since India has excluded China from participating not only in HSR, but also in 5G and other hitech industries.
Just recently, China signed the Bandung-Surabaya HSR new project with a track spanning more than 700 km. Indonesia is also planning to develop 10 new innovation cities across the archipelago to foster high-tech industries and projected to become the main producer of car batteries globally after completing its downstream manufacturing project, it's safe to say that India stands to lose the most if China decides to heavily invest and cooperate with countries like Indonesia.
if someone wants to ride whooosh, might as well ride it while it's still new.
Being the first in HSR doesn't mean it is the best. Matter of fact, Japan has two HRS project failures - India and Vietnam. 😅😅😅
and three now malaysia singapore
High Speed means High Risks.
Are the building of bridges and tunnels.
There is no need of China competing with the Japanese.,..there are
more than enough
Mega projects for both China and Japan to build.
HARRIS NG YM
👍🇨🇳🎶🇨🇳🍷🇨🇳🌹👍
I think japan doen't want to share their high speed technology to other country.
That’s exactly one reason why Indonesia drop out their proposal because they want 100% Japan material and built. Indonesia wants technology transfer not just buying and build
So arrogant to the teacher who has taught you the tech?
India should have went with the German transrapid 😊
Following page 3:05
Nice video and presentation.
Please please keep image resource in synced with message context. We saw African figure supporting context on Thailand and Vietnam. Thank you.
Thank you very much for this wonderful video. In all honesty, it serves the community. Turkey has become one of the developed countries through China. China has a very good policy, which is building the infrastructure for many countries, as well as agriculture and industry, and relying on the local currency. This is everyone’s future. For this reason, the United States of America is not comfortable, and we hope from China. We hope from China that the Chinese government will pay attention to building the railway infrastructure in Iraq, Lebanon and Syria in accordance with agreements and respect for all countries and everyone loves China. China has not participated in wars and has not supported wars. The future of everyone is to build infrastructure such as train stations, roads and bridges in Latin America and Africa as well as in Iraq. It is important and China must pay attention to this matter. Our respect and appreciation are for everyone. Everyone must agree The future of China and the future of all countries is the agreement, respect for the sovereignty of countries, and the solution of economic problems in Africa and Latin America, as well as in Asia, Europe and Canada. There are millions of unemployed people, the future of everyone. The construction of train railways connects all these countries with all cities in all parts of the world and supports agriculture and industry in all parts of the world. For the sake of everyone’s future in accordance with the agreements, respecting the agreement, staying away from selfishness and greed, and staying away from hegemony and control. This is what Britain, Europe and America did by supporting wars, and it was a big, destructive mistake for everyone. To this day, the political-economic conflict is under several names and labels. We must benefit from the mistakes.
we only need to be connected, if has not usef any more, take off, then build on another area, 😇
japan hight speed delay because indian financial problem , modi busy with temple building , cow temple , rat temple , motorbike temple etc
Wah What a Opinion.
What about Maharashtra Govt.?
Gujarat has 7 Stations in Route And Everything Completed and Maharashtra has 4 Stations Route but Land Accusations still stucked.
Yes The Problem of Modi! Why he choose Maharashtra at that time.
You people never stop to Disrespecting your country in International Level.
Have no Idea You're Indian or, Not. If you're Indian then It's for you and If you're not then you can Ignore this.
Chinese fast train technology is the most advanced in the world now
Congrats Chinese technologies.,
why japan whyy ,you just give a chine plan and chance to take over and we dont want under chinaaaa!!! uwaaa japan is so sad about export they tech to southeast asia and also india ,japan need to change ,this plan come just one no two and three ,japan need to realise that expensive is not everthing ,the everthing is relationship,imagine what happens if japan destroy world relationship,its hard to them and they economy
🌹🌏👪 Many nations, a huge number of them, are
interested in high speed rail construction.
Included in the mega projects are bridg😅
The deciding factor for the Indonesian government at that time was: price + knowledge transfer. Both of which, Japan does not wish to fulfill.
We need technology transfer because we need to empower our own people as we expand our high-speed railway. China is willing to do that and it's far cheaper.
4:46 damn japan🙄 12.4% for 9 years, you are no more shine like you used to be!
6:54 the reason of Japan downfall in this industry
I think Indonesia has taken a wise decision regardless of so many politicians and so called economic experts opposition, the government confirmed to go on with the project with the main consideration that this facility is important for the people in their needs for an efficient, easy and affordable public transportations
民主国家天然的劣势…你想前进总有人拖着你😂
Japanese baby boomers are great high tech workers. But their Gen X and Gen Y workers cannot make it and failed miserably.
ohh why you look down at they new generation haa
中国的市场太大了，不然也没有机会二桃杀三士😂，我们只不过是想用市场换技术.比如汽油车…结果并不如意，所以只能靠自己
印度和越南都被中国收拾过，还不只一次，有可能是这个原因所以不选中国高铁😂
Chinese propaganda by English.
People who are comparing Indian Bullet train project with Indonesia...
Must Understand...
In Indonesia Chinese workers and Chinese machines are doing the majority of work with Indonesian workers.
**But in India L and T(an Indian company) is doing the construction.**
Machines are also built and operated by Indian engineers. Only Chief engineer comes once a while from Japan to see progress and modifications.
**So technically India is learning how to make bullet train project**
**Just like we learned how to make world class Metro infrastructure**
And also JAPAN'S bullet trains are safest and best in the world.
"So asking for help again n again in future from Japan is not what India is thinking."
That's why it is taking time.
Additional info -- Indonesia's route length is 142 km with 4 stations.
**India's route length is 508 km (including 21 km undersea tunnel) with 12 stations.**
"Also, Undersea tunnel will be made by AFCONS which is also an Indian Company."
So, it will take time.
*Source-Wikipedia.
But Indonesian HSR would connect Jakarta-Surabaya 700Km+ long with whoosh (south line) and in the other hand, Indonesia also would make their own hsr by Indonesian railway company for the north line of java
difference is China agreed to indonesia request for techno transfer Whereas Japan as well as western companies are ever willing to grant tech transfer.
@@zelinzhang586 And India's 508 km oroject is a part of 1200 km Mumbai to Delhi line.
@@nanyanguo1 Japan has agreed for technology transfer to India.
@@Boldtruths do you know specific agreement on tech transfer ? Is there a catch to it? Could be transfer of tech components that are outdated OR could be training on how to operate, run and maintain hsr system which are also considered tech transfer . Could also help set assembly plant for making certain spareparts n accessories but not the core hsr techno that will enable to build hsr completely on your own.
Chinese propaganda video
You only get what you pay for ! Good things are never cheap ,and cheap things are never good !
Is that why F-35 can dive like a submarine?
@@BSnicksWkwkwkwkwk
@@BSnicksThey also disappear on their own in the US.😂
good luck china