Thank you Susan. I appreciate your ideas suggesting that time may play a role in cognition. Right or wrong, I applaud original thinking. I look forward to the day when physics embraces interdisciplinary relationships with linguistics and information theory, to help unlock the mysteries of thought/spirit mind/soul. There are those who understand thought and spirit to be identical agents, which like bricks in a building, combine to produce the mind/soul. This process takes time, and occurs in time. That's why I appreciate your idea that time plays a role in cognitive studies.
We may be just the sum of our parts, no a soul, no spirit, these are just beliefs, bit like god, is just belief and faith and hasn’t been proven to be a real thing.
Robert poses a KEY question at the 8’ mark: How does the movement of neurotransmitters and other chemicals across synapses that all LOOK the same and have similar to identical electrophysiological consequences in terms of neurons firing generate distinctions in what we hear vs what we see or what we taste, or smell, or feel, which are really what we are discussing in terms of consciousness? What is the missing link between neurophysiology and states of “subjective thought”?
These videos promise so much, but never really go anywhere. Are we learning anything new? There is a lot of ''stuff'' in these videos, but they are like a meal which doesn't really satisfy.
@@Tom-mc9ts I do appreciate the videos. At the moment though, we are like children trying to understand something quite beyond us. I am continually impressed how much scientists don't know. I think ( generally speaking) , they are the last to truly understand anything worth knowing about the nature of reality.
@Victor K I agree. Everything happens within the Mind. It is all mind stuff. But what is the Mind ? It is the Doer, the Imaginer. It is doing everything . It is awaring everything. It is always Me doing and being all our mes
@Vlasko60 With respect, there are no minds. There is mind only. Do you mean, all brains have minds? And this is not true either. Mind or awareness, outside of Time and Space, is unfathomable to our brains enmeshed in Time and Space. Nevertheless, our brains are fine organic machines able to tap into Reality and give us a partial understanding.
@Vlasko60 There is not ''a mind''. There is no ''a'' here. There is no thing at all. The phrase I used was Mind only. But any words conjure up ideas and conditioning which shape our understanding. There is Awareness only and almost inpossible for a human to explain or understand. Awareness is always Self awareness, and this awareness awaring is outside of Time and Space and not bound by the latter's rules and laws. It created them for our reality is ultimately unreal and our understanding cannot make logical sense of this, but may ''see'' it in intuitive flashes. It can know itself, and this knowing is self evident to ''it'', .It is its own evidence although you may not see this as evidence. Not yet, anyway.
Great video of Baroness Greenfield explaining how neuronal assemblies work. Couple this with Anil Seth and you have two scientists working on consciousness and making great progress.
Great progress. All they are saying is that the brain must create consciousness, as there are no other possibilities. Neuronal assemblies, just another so called explanation of what we still don't understand.
I have a great idea! For the dark side of the Universe - suppose that it consists of short-term interactions in long-lived fractal networks, the smallest operators of quantum energy - spherical «rosebuds», consisting of a large number; 1 - rolled into a sphere, 2 - half folded into a sphere and 3 - flat, vibrating quantum membranes relative to their working centers in the sphere..
She totally put me at ease when she said _-"C'mon, Dover. Move your bloomin' @ss!"-_ "There ain't anythin' special about the process of hearing vs vision!"
Have you ever been bewildered? Have you ever discovered that what you thought was true (my husband is faithful) turns out to be totally untrue? It might cause one lose their mind, whilst simultaneously being conscious to the reality of the situation at hand.
There is a case of a man that had brain damage that made him incapable of making long term memories. If he met you he would introduce himself and say he was pleased to meet you. If he turned away from you and then turned back he wouldn't recognize you and would introduce himself to you again. He is very much conscious but his mind is limited in time. Every change in scenery is a new event.
And the difference between them is? And I want you to be quite certain of your answer; no philosophical jiggery-pokery. Tell me neurophysiologically how the brain and mind are different.
I would like to offer myself for scientific study to show that consciousness is from the Divine. FYI - I have followed the Guidelines of Problacism for many years and I will will show that I have a personal relationship with the Divine through Jesus.
I like Susan Greenfield's functional analogy to pebbles/rocks and rings of waves, where the 'ring of waves' represents a relationship to the neural scaffolding inside the brain. Which is functionally similar to my model, however, my model sees it in reverse. That is, the neural network of rings inside the brain, senses the energies in reality (as wave frequencies containing different energies, related to our survival), and spit out the rocks (THOUGHT), such that, quantum mechanically, the smaller frequencies have the higher energies and would spit out the bigger rocks (collapse of the wave function=thought), which consists of the 'weight' of the sensations, thoughts, cognitions, intentions, and feelings (relative to our survival).
Sorry I'm a neuroscientist not a spork manufacturer. I dont have time understand how sports are made. However, if a Martian were to see chopsticks how would they know what a fork is? 😀
Apologies billhillard my predictive text machine rebelled against me. It can sense that I am sceptical about the ability of the scientific method to explain consciousness. It might be able to describe it. Explaining it, is beyond its remit. Sporks rule.
Nonsense!! First: Time is a bit more related to hearing than to vision. This has nothing to do with relativity but with Fourier transform. Our cochlea detects frequencies and this is the frequency information that is provided to the brain. The frequency of a signal says how fast it varies in time. Without time, no frequency and then no hearing Our eyes detects an intensity of the light in each direction.The frequency is detected too thanks to the 3 primary colors but this is another story.
What about mind that is thinking thoughts or opinions or writing a book without a tangible stone thrown at the mind. A person just sitting around relaxed and able to write pages and pages of a story or fiction?
Why is that when presented information that shows there is no mind without the proper functioning hardware, why do people still dismiss this info and settle for a soul or consciousness that is separate from the physical body?? Makes no sense whatsoever. People are so delusional.
@@ferdinandkraft857 It could also be that a snail is orbiting pluto. His point is about the ridiculous lengths ppl leap to justify their outlandish theories
@@ferdinandkraft857 what is a non material realm? Concepts do not equal reality. I can think of many concepts that are not true. Take away the brain and consciousness is gone.
@@dustinellerbe4125 I don't know. I just mentioned a possible scenario where your claim is false. For a more "concrete" example, consider the simulation hypotheses, where the mind lives outside the "matrix".
There will be no advances or breakthroughs. The mystery of mind over matter, is meant to be a mystery. Do not speak of the soul. A soul is a life. Please use the word spirit.
Dr. Greenfield clearly had a much more in depth and detailed understanding of what she was referring to with her space-time manifold idea which the interviewer had not clue of. So it seemed rather dismissive of the interviewer to make the statement that "she would not get anywhere" when she was clearly aware of greater dimensionality to the phenomena and was simply attempting to speak as an educator to a child.
She might be better off going to a computer mathematician than a physicist. I would define consciousness as the electro-chemical equilibrium-seeking state of a self-serving organism's brain. Brain functioning is the billions of activities going on inside. While each activity may be physically described, brain functioning is an emergent property. Finding the mathematics for that would be like finding temperature from molecular kinetic energy, but with more dimensions. Seems hard.
Brain works on positive feedback mechanism, enabled by chemical reactions occuring in it in response to stimulation of different senses. Thats it. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
@@plantsofwar8834 You spend most of your life inside your head. Those times on the outside are all dictated by your inside self. Sleep is like a biological defrag program.
@@cosmikrelic4815We have consciousness because we have perception of time. If we didnt have perception of time we will have only senses. Until 3-4 years old we just have senses after that period we can form memory and have perception of time in order to have what we called DEVELOPED CONSCIOUSNESS
Susan is a neuroscientist. All such people should be asked about the problem of other minds. If physics is the cause of behavior, and also mind is the cause of behavior, then that's one explanation too many.
I think consciousness may arise from the field. Either the electro magnetic field that surrounds the brain or the quantum field that it interfaces with. Just a theory.
I agree. And I'm an atheist. Trying to explain subjective, first-person experience in terms of third-person, objective facts about matter is like trying to explain nuclear fusion in terms of bird migration patterns. It's a category error. And then, on top of that, there's the impossibility of a purely qualitative phenomenon like qualia. How do you get these (direct experiences of) pure qualities from the purely quantitative properties of matter? I don't know what the explanation is, but it's not going to come from a standard materialist perspective.
There is a higher self. That is the most parsimonious answer. All this talk is tap dancing on the head of a pin. at this point only the mystics make sense to me.
Nonsense! Second: These colonies of neurons may be related with consciousness indeed but cannot explain consciousness. We feel that the same person have the consciousness of all our experiences. If each experience may be explained with one colony and nothing more, this would be impossible. If we want to keep this materialist idea we have to conclude that a specific neural network is devoted to consciousness experience. All conscious information is provided to that network.
John Brzykcy . Soul is just a word for you don’t know. It’s ok to have soul as a hypothesis but there is no evidence. Yes materialist ideas of the brain don’t explain everything but beyond what science can’t give an answer to the answer is we don’t know.
@Vlasko60 I’m paraphrasing Daniel Dennett, Ray Kurzweil, etc. If you’d like to get into behaviorism as well, which might argue along similar lines that we are biological robots with no original self will.
@Vlasko60 come back and talk to me after you’ve had your first NDE or OBE. There is nothing to debate. It’s purely a matter of subjective experience which, by virtue of the scientific method, is quite unscientific. I’m very happy to relocate this question to the realm of opinion, where it boils down to mine against yours. I rest my case.
How do they do it? Make a question last five Years , Here's the answer? The spirit make up your mind Your mind makes the answer last 5 years Hahaha. The mind,The mind. The spirit can heal the mind ,my friend's.but the mind can't heal the Spirit ! Only Love can, like water. ? When will we get the Answer?
But how can any arrangement of matter suddenly create a subject of experience? Seems like a category error. How many neurons would you have to remove, one by one, before this subject of *experience* suddenly blinks out? I mean, either an experience is being had or it isn't. So at what point does the subject (The "I") suddenly vanish? And if you were to put that one neuron back, would the "I" suddenly reappear? Think about it. There's something off about the purely materialist "explanation", don't you think? I'm an atheist, and even I can see that there's something more to subjective, first-person, conscious *experience* than just the physical.
@@BugRib Nature is ugly. There is no fundamental equation of brain which you put and see different results. For example, we experience a red color. I mean visual experience. But my experience and your experience get different results. That's mind which control the brain. So, by brain you're creating your own mind. Brain is the horsepower for mind to work. So, your experience really shape your brain. I know your position is dualism. But, I don't think immaterial mind exists. If it does then where it is how you know that it exist at all.
Ryan Clark People who suffer brain trauma / brain damage... The changes in them all point to the mind/ consciousness being an emergent property of the brain
"We" are all prisoners born of "God's" conception, therefore "God" has yet to be born. Try and think of what happens in the split-second an egg becomes fertilized., now imagine on a god-scale from within higher intra-dimensional levels that "we", along with nature/physical reality, are the byproduct of that process unfolding. So there's no reason whatsoever to fear or worship., THAT which "we" all are already a part of. The Shiva Linga is the precursor of the Holy Trinity in describing what is taking place across intra-dimensional levels of existence of a singular being's metamorphosis into..., a God? Just as the physical universes experience multiple crunches and expansions like a heartbeat., this being "we" are all part of, will eventually reach a stage in its progress where it will withdraw into itself all of the knowledge or data acquired through experiences from those separate individual consciousnesses whose Souls were able to make it through and beyond the life stages of Mineral, Vegetable and Animal. That's all "we" are., packets of information whose ego-identity becomes sacrificed upon subsumption into the One. For those seeking.., Do any of you know what you're really asking for in attaining ultimate liberation? If you enjoy inhabiting a human or any other form capable of expressing your individual character and Will., you're not ready for mergence. With that said., Who are my parents?
@@dazedmaestro1223 Come on, brain + awareness = mind. It's not that hard to grasp. The only difference between us and the other life on this rock. Is our level of awarenesses. Without that we would be just another primate.
I've never seen a mind spill onto the floor during brain surgery. I've never seen a radio station spill onto the floor during a radio repair. Non locality is a plausible phenomenon. The words on this page are not reducible to pixels on a screen. These words and pixels represent something beyond the physicality. These pixels represent meaningfulness shared between us, and no one can point to a physical container where that meaningfulness is held.
Outstanding episode and Dr. Greenfield is a stellar teacher. Love her use of metaphors to explain complex and abstract info/ideas.
Susan is so thorough in her analyses. I'm not sure anyone else really gets it like she does.
krishnmauti does
depending on your point of view ,biases ,cultural conditioning ,predispotions
Thank you Susan. I appreciate your ideas suggesting that time may play a role in cognition. Right or wrong, I applaud original thinking.
I look forward to the day when physics embraces interdisciplinary relationships with linguistics and information theory, to help unlock the mysteries of thought/spirit mind/soul. There are those who understand thought and spirit to be identical agents, which like bricks in a building, combine to produce the mind/soul. This process takes time, and occurs in time. That's why I appreciate your idea that time plays a role in cognitive studies.
We may be just the sum of our parts, no a soul, no spirit, these are just beliefs, bit like god, is just belief and faith and hasn’t been proven to be a real thing.
Susan Greenfield is an intellectual hero.
interesting
Robert poses a KEY question at the 8’ mark: How does the movement of neurotransmitters and other chemicals across synapses that all LOOK the same and have similar to identical electrophysiological consequences in terms of neurons firing generate distinctions in what we hear vs what we see or what we taste, or smell, or feel, which are really what we are discussing in terms of consciousness? What is the missing link between neurophysiology and states of “subjective thought”?
Very intelligent lady her view is fascinating
you said view
their are a myriad of varying views as you would expect
God bless you Susan 🙏 ❤️ ❤️
Great insight..Thanks to Greenfield and thanks again to Kuhn.
Lovely points and hypotheses. And touché at the very end Dr.Kuhn :)
think it would be helpful to talk to Josha Bach, his model of information and modelbilding is very helpful
Bach is full is full of pseudoscientific non-sense.
@@danzigvssartre I agree
@@danzigvssartre How can you tell? He talks so fast.
bach.ai/
here is his website
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
An experience needs an experiencer. How does any particular arrangement of matter equal an experiencer?
What the hell are we?
Thank you!
Baroness❤
Wow. What a funny and cheekish guest.
These videos promise so much, but never really go anywhere.
Are we learning anything new?
There is a lot of ''stuff'' in these videos, but they are like a meal which doesn't really satisfy.
Think you need to change your expectations going in.
@@Tom-mc9ts I do appreciate the videos. At the moment though, we are like children trying to understand something quite beyond us.
I am continually impressed how much scientists don't know. I think ( generally speaking) , they are the last to truly understand anything worth knowing about the nature of reality.
@Victor K I agree. Everything happens within the Mind. It is all mind stuff.
But what is the Mind ?
It is the Doer, the Imaginer.
It is doing everything . It is awaring everything.
It is always Me doing and being all our mes
@Vlasko60 With respect, there are no minds.
There is mind only.
Do you mean, all brains have minds? And this is not true either.
Mind or awareness, outside of Time and Space, is unfathomable to our brains enmeshed in Time and Space. Nevertheless, our brains are fine organic machines able to tap into Reality and give us a partial understanding.
@Vlasko60 There is not ''a mind''. There is no ''a'' here. There is no thing at all.
The phrase I used was Mind only. But any words conjure up ideas and conditioning which shape our understanding.
There is Awareness only and almost inpossible for a human to explain or understand.
Awareness is always Self awareness, and this awareness awaring is outside of Time and Space and not bound by the latter's rules and laws.
It created them for our reality is ultimately unreal and our understanding cannot make logical sense of this, but may ''see'' it in intuitive flashes.
It can know itself, and this knowing is self evident to ''it'', .It is its own evidence although you may not see this as evidence. Not yet, anyway.
Great video of Baroness Greenfield explaining how neuronal assemblies work. Couple this with Anil Seth and you have two scientists working on consciousness and making great progress.
Great progress. All they are saying is that the brain must create consciousness, as there are no other possibilities. Neuronal assemblies, just another so called explanation of what we still don't understand.
@Vlasko60 Read THE SECRET LIFE OF CELLS
I have a great idea! For the dark side of the Universe - suppose that it consists of short-term interactions in long-lived fractal networks, the smallest operators of quantum energy - spherical «rosebuds», consisting of a large number; 1 - rolled into a sphere, 2 - half folded into a sphere and 3 - flat, vibrating quantum membranes relative to their working centers in the sphere..
She totally put me at ease when she said _-"C'mon, Dover. Move your bloomin' @ss!"-_ "There ain't anythin' special about the process of hearing vs vision!"
Brain gives the incentive
Personalitys' job is the Learning/Knowing!
That is My Experience having the deep insight of trauma of intracerebrality
Do consciousness and subconsciousness happen differently in brain activity?
Right
"You can lose your mind but you're still conscious". What does she mean ?
Have you ever been bewildered? Have you ever discovered that what you thought was true (my husband is faithful) turns out to be totally untrue? It might cause one lose their mind, whilst simultaneously being conscious to the reality of the situation at hand.
There is a case of a man that had brain damage that made him incapable of making long term memories. If he met you he would introduce himself and say he was pleased to meet you. If he turned away from you and then turned back he wouldn't recognize you and would introduce himself to you again. He is very much conscious but his mind is limited in time. Every change in scenery is a new event.
So can we say that the mind is the perception of the "end" while the "end" is the conception of the mind...
Isn't that light is always for the eyes while sound is always for the ears???
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to say hearing detects changes in space?
Neurons of the brain are like starling birds in flight communicating.
Yes
ed denz shut up
If brain activity has electric impulses, could electrons contribute something to consciousness or even mind?
She’s not explaining how the brain creates mind she is explaining how the brain works.
And the difference between them is? And I want you to be quite certain of your answer; no philosophical jiggery-pokery. Tell me neurophysiologically how the brain and mind are different.
I would like to offer myself for scientific study to show that consciousness is from the Divine. FYI - I have followed the Guidelines of Problacism for many years and I will will show that I have a personal relationship with the Divine through Jesus.
The neurological and the psychological inextricably interrelated.
I like Susan Greenfield's functional analogy to pebbles/rocks and rings of waves, where the 'ring of waves' represents a relationship to the neural scaffolding inside the brain. Which is functionally similar to my model, however, my model sees it in reverse. That is, the neural network of rings inside the brain, senses the energies in reality (as wave frequencies containing different energies, related to our survival), and spit out the rocks (THOUGHT), such that, quantum mechanically, the smaller frequencies have the higher energies and would spit out the bigger rocks (collapse of the wave function=thought), which consists of the 'weight' of the sensations, thoughts, cognitions, intentions, and feelings (relative to our survival).
Does spork make spoon and fork? WELL???
Sorry I'm a neuroscientist not a spork manufacturer. I dont have time understand how sports are made. However, if a Martian were to see chopsticks how would they know what a fork is? 😀
Apologies billhillard my predictive text machine rebelled against me. It can sense that I am sceptical about the ability of the scientific method to explain consciousness. It might be able to describe it. Explaining it, is beyond its remit. Sporks rule.
Sheldrake and Schwartz have it with the receptor theory
AAh...Finally it ties down space and time. Well time particular. I can see that because time play significant role in governing our bodies.
Nonsense!!
First:
Time is a bit more related to hearing than to vision.
This has nothing to do with relativity but with Fourier transform.
Our cochlea detects frequencies and this is the frequency information that is provided to the brain. The frequency of a signal says how fast it varies in time. Without time, no frequency and then no hearing
Our eyes detects an intensity of the light in each direction.The frequency is detected too thanks to the 3 primary colors but this is another story.
Mind makes brain, including all the brains in dreams.
consciousness is not mind ... duh
i didnt know that ... good one
explain
The Mind exists apart from brain.
@Vlasko60 prove a brain wirhout a mind
@Vlasko60 interesting
In my opinion. .. in my book... according to me...
it does seem so
What about mind that is thinking thoughts or opinions or writing a book without a tangible stone thrown at the mind. A person just sitting around relaxed and able to write pages and pages of a story or fiction?
It's just a metaphor.
Long live Mandukya Upanishad and Gaudapada's Karika...
Why is that when presented information that shows there is no mind without the proper functioning hardware, why do people still dismiss this info and settle for a soul or consciousness that is separate from the physical body?? Makes no sense whatsoever. People are so delusional.
It could be that the mind still exists in a non-material realm, just disconnected from the physical hardware.
@@ferdinandkraft857 It could also be that a snail is orbiting pluto. His point is about the ridiculous lengths ppl leap to justify their outlandish theories
@@ferdinandkraft857 what is a non material realm? Concepts do not equal reality. I can think of many concepts that are not true. Take away the brain and consciousness is gone.
@@TactileTherapy improbable, but not impossible.
@@dustinellerbe4125 I don't know. I just mentioned a possible scenario where your claim is false. For a more "concrete" example, consider the simulation hypotheses, where the mind lives outside the "matrix".
There will be no advances or breakthroughs. The mystery of mind over matter, is meant to be a mystery. Do not speak of the soul. A soul is a life. Please use the word spirit.
It sounds vaguely like epiphenomenal
Pearls before swine.
Yeah...you swine!
Dr. Greenfield clearly had a much more in depth and detailed understanding of what she was referring to with her space-time manifold idea which the interviewer had not clue of. So it seemed rather dismissive of the interviewer to make the statement that "she would not get anywhere" when she was clearly aware of greater dimensionality to the phenomena and was simply attempting to speak as an educator to a child.
Have you ever talked with Anil Seth? I loved his TED Talk: ruclips.net/video/lyu7v7nWzfo/видео.html
She might be better off going to a computer mathematician than a physicist. I would define consciousness as the electro-chemical equilibrium-seeking state of a self-serving organism's brain. Brain functioning is the billions of activities going on inside. While each activity may be physically described, brain functioning is an emergent property. Finding the mathematics for that would be like finding temperature from molecular kinetic energy, but with more dimensions. Seems hard.
Brain works on positive feedback mechanism, enabled by chemical reactions occuring in it in response to stimulation of different senses. Thats it. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
And how do subjective experiences emerge from a chemical feedback loop? That's the question they're addressing.
@@plantsofwar8834
You spend most of your life inside your head. Those times on the outside are all dictated by your inside self.
Sleep is like a biological defrag program.
Oh yes of course so simple. Surely you're the only person that understands these things.
@@cosmikrelic4815We have consciousness because we have perception of time. If we didnt have perception of time we will have only senses. Until 3-4 years old we just have senses after that period we can form memory and have perception of time in order to have what we called DEVELOPED CONSCIOUSNESS
@@devekhande9204 Perhaps I shoud've warned you with a sarcasm alert.
Susan is a neuroscientist. All such people should be asked about the problem of other minds. If physics is the cause of behavior, and also mind is the cause of behavior, then that's one explanation too many.
A silly thing to say.
@@bozo5632 why
I think consciousness may arise from the field. Either the electro magnetic field that surrounds the brain or the quantum field that it interfaces with. Just a theory.
Mind occupies brain.
I am a bean burrito!
No you aren’t. Liar.
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Its back and the reason for all the chaos///
Bean burrito = fart sandwich
Then I'm sorry for your diarrhea
@@andreea5927 thank you for your sympathy. Please don't send flowers, there won't be any funeral service. Just a simple flushing.
No. There is ghost inside your head and its magic.
A ghost, is an apparition of the dead. You should have said spirit.
@@eltonron1558The joke was exactly not taking the idea of 'spirit" seriously and calling it a ghost, "Einstein."
@@sahelanthropusbrensis That's ok, because you also should have said miracle, instead of magic. Lol
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I agree. And I'm an atheist.
Trying to explain subjective, first-person experience in terms of third-person, objective facts about matter is like trying to explain nuclear fusion in terms of bird migration patterns. It's a category error.
And then, on top of that, there's the impossibility of a purely qualitative phenomenon like qualia. How do you get these (direct experiences of) pure qualities from the purely quantitative properties of matter?
I don't know what the explanation is, but it's not going to come from a standard materialist perspective.
There is a higher self. That is the most parsimonious answer. All this talk is tap dancing on the head of a pin. at this point only the mystics make sense to me.
smelly cuchi
Take some more drugs. Mystics will make more sense.
Mystics never make sense. I think that's why they are called mystics.
Of course, there is no law that says the truth must be comprehensible.
There's not a single argument for physicalism, quite the opposite, and yet people take it for granted that it's true.
There are many arguments, although they don't prove anything. But I agree that taking materialism for granted is just as silly as discarding it.
So it is not physical?
@@andrebrown8969, do you think you can translate into an equation a subject?
@@ferdinandkraft857 So what is outside the material world?
@@andrebrown8969 I don't know, and neither does you.
Nonsense!
Second:
These colonies of neurons may be related with consciousness indeed but cannot explain consciousness.
We feel that the same person have the consciousness of all our experiences. If each experience may be explained with one colony and nothing more, this would be impossible.
If we want to keep this materialist idea we have to conclude that a specific neural network is devoted to consciousness experience. All conscious information is provided to that network.
I think the brain has a strong correlation with the mind and the mind has a deep correlation with the soul.
soul? non-exist-an it's an invented concept... a claim without any evidence...
smelly cuchi
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John Brzykcy . Soul is just a word for you don’t know. It’s ok to have soul as a hypothesis but there is no evidence. Yes materialist ideas of the brain don’t explain everything but beyond what science can’t give an answer to the answer is we don’t know.
What is a soul? How does it work?
Jeez, are 70-year-olds getting better looking or am I just getting older?
I think, the whole universe is one conscious and everything in it having same conscious.
Consciousness is just a brain fart, according to materialists.
Brain fart? Or information processing diaria?
@Vlasko60 I’m paraphrasing Daniel Dennett, Ray Kurzweil, etc. If you’d like to get into behaviorism as well, which might argue along similar lines that we are biological robots with no original self will.
@Vlasko60 come back and talk to me after you’ve had your first NDE or OBE. There is nothing to debate. It’s purely a matter of subjective experience which, by virtue of the scientific method, is quite unscientific. I’m very happy to relocate this question to the realm of opinion, where it boils down to mine against yours. I rest my case.
@Vlasko60 you can say that again.
How do they do it?
Make a question last five
Years , Here's the answer?
The spirit make up your mind
Your mind makes the answer last 5 years Hahaha. The mind,The mind.
The spirit can heal the mind ,my friend's.but the mind can't heal the Spirit ! Only Love can, like water.
? When will we get the Answer?
wow he has soooo much lipstick on!!!!!!!!!
What's mind. It's all in brain. I think brain make the mind and mind make the brain.
But how can any arrangement of matter suddenly create a subject of experience? Seems like a category error.
How many neurons would you have to remove, one by one, before this subject of *experience* suddenly blinks out? I mean, either an experience is being had or it isn't. So at what point does the subject (The "I") suddenly vanish? And if you were to put that one neuron back, would the "I" suddenly reappear?
Think about it. There's something off about the purely materialist "explanation", don't you think?
I'm an atheist, and even I can see that there's something more to subjective, first-person, conscious *experience* than just the physical.
smelly cuchi
@@BugRib Nature is ugly. There is no fundamental equation of brain which you put and see different results. For example, we experience a red color. I mean visual experience. But my experience and your experience get different results. That's mind which control the brain. So, by brain you're creating your own mind. Brain is the horsepower for mind to work. So, your experience really shape your brain. I know your position is dualism. But, I don't think immaterial mind exists. If it does then where it is how you know that it exist at all.
That circular reasoning just messed with my brain. Or my mind. Or... TILT
Ryan Clark
People who suffer brain trauma / brain damage...
The changes in them all point to the mind/ consciousness being an emergent property of the brain
"We" are all prisoners born of "God's" conception, therefore "God" has yet to be born.
Try and think of what happens in the split-second an egg becomes fertilized., now imagine on a god-scale from within higher intra-dimensional levels that "we", along with nature/physical reality, are the byproduct of that process unfolding.
So there's no reason whatsoever to fear or worship., THAT which "we" all are already a part of.
The Shiva Linga is the precursor of the Holy Trinity in describing what is taking place across intra-dimensional levels of existence of a singular being's metamorphosis into..., a God?
Just as the physical universes experience multiple crunches and expansions like a heartbeat., this being "we" are all part of, will eventually reach a stage in its progress where it will withdraw into itself all of the knowledge or data acquired through experiences from those separate individual consciousnesses whose Souls were able to make it through and beyond the life stages of Mineral, Vegetable and Animal.
That's all "we" are., packets of information whose ego-identity becomes sacrificed upon subsumption into the One.
For those seeking..,
Do any of you know what you're really asking for in attaining ultimate liberation?
If you enjoy inhabiting a human or any other form capable of expressing your individual character and Will., you're not ready for mergence.
With that said., Who are my parents?
Does brain make mind? What a stupid question.
The answer is obviously yes.
Since when were questions stupid?
Would you be so kind as to explain how the hell it does that?
@@DavidDW
Come on. I hear stupid questions every day. And that was one of the worst. I think he is running out of ideas he can dance around.
@@dazedmaestro1223
Come on, brain + awareness = mind. It's not that hard to grasp. The only difference between us and the other life on this rock. Is our level of awarenesses. Without that we would be just another primate.
I've never seen a mind spill onto the floor during brain surgery.
I've never seen a radio station spill onto the floor during a radio repair.
Non locality is a plausible phenomenon. The words on this page are not reducible to pixels on a screen. These words and pixels represent something beyond the physicality. These pixels represent meaningfulness shared between us, and no one can point to a physical container where that meaningfulness is held.
Blah blah blah
Way off. Doesn’t account for translocation of your mind or the minds abilities to affect energy outside the body.
Explains nothing but her theory. Just sayin'
Many words used, nothing substantially said, just metaphors and analogies, this is poetry not science.
believed, this is an philosophical Series. Not prurely Science
BELIEVE IN GOD
Believe in exercise
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Believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster
@@500lbkaren5 I think you skipped Sunday school when they taught about gluttony.