Maya Jasanoff - An Imperial Disaster? The Loyalist Diaspora after the American Revolution
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2010
- Webcast sponsored by the Irving K. Barber Learning Centre and hosted by the UBC History department. Part of the "Disasters and Diasporas: Entangled Histories of Environment and Empire" Series of the UBC History Department Maya Jasanoff's teaching and research focus on the history of modern Britain and the British Empire, particularly in the 18th and 19th centuries. Her first book, Edge of Empire: Lives, Culture, and Conquest in the East, 1750-1850, investigates British expansion in India and Egypt through the lives of art collectors. It was awarded the 2005 Duff Cooper Prize and was a book of the year selection in numerous British publications including The Economist, The Observer, and The Sunday Times. She has recently completed a new book, Liberty's Exiles: American Loyalists in the Revolutionary World (forthcoming February 2011), which provides the first global history of the loyalists who fled the United States after the American Revolution, and resettled in Canada, the Caribbean, Britain, Sierra Leone, and beyond. Her current research explores the worlds of Joseph Conrad. Jasanoff has been an ACLS Charles A. Ryskamp Fellow, a Cullman Center Fellow at the New York Public Library, and a Kluge Fellow at the Library of Congress. Her essays and reviews have appeared in the London Review of Books, The New York Review of Books, and The New York Times Magazine.
I respect her immensely for bringing about the truth to the people who have been lied to.
This lecture is worth watching as it's an interesting discourse on the United Empire Loyalists. Much more could have been added by the speaker but it would have required two lectures. Very interesting perspective. Another discourse about the long term Loyalist influence on the development of governance and tolerance in Canada would be worthwhile. The Loyalists in effect created the liberal constitutional government we now have, a constitutional monarchy within a parliamentary system. Also, in a more subtle way the Loyalist influence is reflected in the values of Canada "Peace, Order and Good Government" as compared to the values of the United States "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness".
7:00 Book jackets? Would be nice if they were shown.
The American Revolution was as much a Civil War (Patriots vs. Loyalists) as it was a War for Independence (Americans vs. Redcoats). The colonies were about evenly split down the road three ways (Pro-Independence, Pro-British and neutral fence sitters). Many of the Loyalists had the same grievances as their Patriot countrymen but they did not see it as grounds for armed rebellion & alliance with foreign powers i.e. France and Spain.
Maya mentions the Baptist Church being founded in New Brunswick and Nova Scotia and she claims that it was founded by Blacks that came to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. This may or may not be true because there were many white Baptists Loyalists that came to New Brunswick as well as there were many white Baptists in the United States at the time of the Revolution ( southern Baptists for instance ). Also, she does not mention that many of the Loyalists were Quakers and it is against the Quaker religion to fight in any war. That is the case with my mother's family in Pennslyvannia. Because they were Quakers and would not fight in the Revolutionary War, they had to leave Pennslyvannia in 1783 and meet in New York at the Quaker Meeting House and set sail for New Brunswick where they founded a community called Pennfield ( west of Saint John ), named after the Quaker leader William Penn.
I had the great fortune to attend Pickering, the terrific Quaker College, founded in 1842, by the Pennsylvania Loyalists, headed by Joeseph John Gurney, brother of Elizabeth Fry.
I would love to hear her thoughts on all the ties between Eastern Canada and the Confederacy -- including the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.
Sure.
Continue thinking that.
Not to celebrate Monarchy but the American Revolutionaries inspired the French Revolutionaries whom inspired even more radical Revolutionaries in the 20th Century. Critics of post WWII American foreign policy state that America forgot its revolutionary roots and became the focus of anti-revolutionary forces in the world i.g. Third World Revolution.
You have to put the revolt into a wider context of Anglo French competition. Britain had taken control of India, and the French payback was an immense investment (with Dutch and Spanish) in the American revolution, which broke their economy: leading to the French Revolution!
How would the British have treated the Americans had they lost? Their treatment of POW's gives a good clue. A bunch of Loyalists ended up in Alabama.
JPA, I am normally inclined to the Patriot side of the side of the fence but in the desire to be honest one has to look at all sides. Only one third of the colonists wanted independence, revolution often spawns revolution (France, Spanish Colonies, etc.), the revolution was also a civil war as all are, and both sides have evolved beyond what they were originally. In the early Republic only white men of means could vote or run for office.
That's not true!
The Patriots far outnumbered the Tories.
@@unitedwestand5100 About evenly split three ways. The Patriots won due to foreign intervention by powerful monarcharies wanting to take Britain down a peg. Usually the revolutionaires that wish to bring down the system or declare independence have more energy than those that wish to preserve it. The Patriots were more inclined to take matters into their own hands while the Loyalists were more legalistic minded, let the Constables deal with the local rebels.
@@Talltrees84 ,. Still wrong.
Try again....
The British recruited the Hessians, and Natives. They even paid bounties to Natives for scalps.
There were very few French fighting on the Continental Armies side, and ,zero fighting for the colonists in the South, or in the pioneer settlements west of the Appalachians.
At Kings Mt, there were no french or continental troops Involved.
A bunch of backwoods over mountain men from Tennessee, and NC completely destroyed British Major Ferguson and his trained red coated Torries. (They brought their own weapons, and ammunition.)
The colonial militias lead Cornwallis on a chase all through NC, before defeating him at Guilford Courthouse. There were no French involved in that either.
By the time Cornwallis arrived in Yorktown, he was thoroughly beaten and exhausted.
Then the French helped. Their Navy kept Cornwallis from getting reinforcements, and more importantly kept him from being rescued.
He couldn't run, and he couldnt fight, so he surrendered.
The battle of Cowpens, Kings Mountain, and every river crossing through NC, where we earned the nickname Tarheels, and Guilford Courthouse are the parts of the American Revoliution you need to study.
Tarheels is a name given to us by the British, because at every river crossing the Carolina patriots waited , and fought from the far banks like they had tar on their heels gluing them in place.
The Torries on Kings Mountain were slaughtered along with Ferguson, and their bodies left for the wolves to scavenge on.
The Ameeican Revolution was won in the South!
I think the revision of American wars for independence (from USA to Argentina) is very necessary. The rebels in the Thirteen Colonies, in Cuba, in Mexico, Peru, etc. fought colonial wars, but also and especially civil wars. For example, 90% of Royalist soldiers in Hispanic America were natives of the American continent. Salutes from Spain.
What? Lol
Most of the Kings soldiers in the 13 colonies were from Britain, and most were pressed into service for the crown, either by class oppression, or to avoid imprisonment for crimes. Then of course there were the Hessian Mercenaries who were paid by the British crown. They were probably the most ruthless.
The Tories who fought for the crown were generally dealt with harshly, and discouraged to fight out of fear.
True, in the French Indian wars, many colonists fought with the British, but they fought for the most part in colonial militias, and for their own benefit.
@@pinquifrustri ,. I think you've confused yourself.
The American Revolution/war for Independence is the 13 colonies vs. Britain.
Venezuela, Cuba, Mexico, etc, arent included. Not even Florida. Florida was not one of the 13 colonies. Florida was a Spanish colony.
The US/America would take it from Spain in 1821, and it did not become a State until 1845.
The Spanish American War didnt happen until 1898, long after we defeated Mexico, and it was a very short war.
We gained some territories, but none became States, and Cuba was given Independence very quickly.
We're, me and Miss Jasnoff, are talking about the American Revolution here not the many cartel wars experienced in the Hispanic countries.
@@pinquifrustri ,. Good.
If anything you had to say was like the rest of you BS, it was irrelevant to the conversation anyway.
@@unitedwestand5100wrong, go read
The American Insurrection actually backfired on the French Monarchy, Two Innocent Human Being were put to death by being framed by The Revolting Bourgeoisie by generating propaganda! The Monarchs were Very Amicable, Altruistic and Philanthropic. The Statue of Liberty is a product of the Bourgeoisie! The great symbol of American Sociopathology!
cobainzlady if you think George III was a tyrant you should probably try to read something about George The Third and the very little power he had. Never heard of the glorious revolution of 1689?
The American republic is responsible for execution of French monarchs…What hallucinogens are you taking ?
Dr Jasanoff is the best female lecturer I have ever heard.
I'm attracted to this girls honest intellect in a strange sort of way.
It's not often you hear a Canadian or European admit to slavery, and racist attitudes being common to Europe and the Americas, and originating in Europe.
Britain has used Historical negationism to try to erase their part in it all. And have been effective to the education of multiple generations doing so.
Her statements on the experience of the freed slaves that went to Canada at first, and those who wanted no part of settling in Britain should be noted by all. As well as the fact that those slaves were brought here by the British, and other Europeans.
If you really want an eye opening I suggest you read the history of Nigeria, Ghana, and other western African nations. You might be shocked how the various black tribes in those countries directly, and enthusiastically aided the European slave trade.
It's also interesting to me that shes permitted to say what shes saying. If she said that in the US she would be censored or banned.
But this 'girl' is also a professor in the US.. so she does say and publish these things in the US
Interesting.
I concur that they have forgotten their history.
I would even contend that the majority of this was done on purpose.
'Twas born in Civil War, and ergo it seems they be destined to remain involved in that mindset.
She all mad.
they weren't 'good Christian men'
many were Freemasons, and those that remained as actual Christians weren't the type that believed in Christ's divinity.
Important distinction.
I would have to agree with you because of the number of Secret Society members who have Governed the United States since it’s origins and Canada being it’s closest Allie.
I think there was a darker plan for North America, Fort Anne is located in Annapolis Royal which is part of Annapolis County, Nova Scotia, Canada.
Fort Anne, Annapolis County, Port Royal, Annapolis Royal and Annapolis Valley are all named with respect to Queen Anne, there’s also an old historic Queen Anne residence in Annapolis Royal.
Fort Anne was built overtop of an older Scottish Fort, hence the name Nova Scotia meaning New Scotland, Parks Canada turned Fort Anne into an Historical Attraction, the Plaques surrounding Fort Anne give us an idea of the History behind this Fort, the Scottish Settlers were the first North American Settlers who landed in this area in 1608 and left in 1629, the recorded history claims they left because of the hardships of winter, history is very vague after this but picks up by saying Fort Anne was fought over between the British and French through 11 battles and changed hands 8 times before the British were Victorious.
In front of the Canada Parks building sits a small insignificant memorial (hidden in plain sight) dedicated to the Freemasons stating that they came here with a New World Order in mind, how mote that idea is today dated 1604, across the road from this memorial and towards the centre of the Village sits an empty lot with another insignificant plaque (hidden in plain sight), stating that this is the location of the first Freemason lodge in North America dated 1776, I can’t confirm this because that’s how these Secret Societies or Society’s with Secrets work but a friend who has studied them tells me that this is Lodge number 33 of the Scottish Rite Freemasons.
The US $1 dollar bill was designed by a Freemason in 1776 which included Secret Society symbolism, also Oak Island is located on the South Shore of Nova Scotia, this small island was used to bury stolen Spanish treasures approximately 230 years ago, a Privateer, Politician and Freemason was sent by the British Government to recover 70 tons of Gold and Silver that was being transported by a Spanish sailing vessel before it was sunk, this Freemason recovered 30 tons of this gold and silver and returned to Britain, the British Government ordered this Freemason to return and recover the rest of the Treasures, he returned with two other Freemasons and only recovered 5 tons of the gold and silver, Oak Island was the only island out of some 300 islands on the South Shore that had been surveyed and it was surveyed by a Freemason, during this ongoing historical dig currently happening, it has been discovered that there had been a plan to bury this stolen treasure on Oak island, the Oak Island recovery team have discovered a 900 year old Well, a 700 year old Knights Templar cross and a 500+ year old road which was built to haul heavy goods by use of Oxen, among many other older artifacts like three 2,000 year old Spanish coins.
North America’s history is full of lies, Christopher Columbus never stepped foot in North America, he was lost at Sea and brought to shore by the Indigenous people who inhabit the Caribbean Islands, he was also a mass murderer who claimed Dominion when he landed in the Caribbean Islands and no Treaty was ever signed giving Land away, the British Colonial Settlers committed genocide on the Indigenous people who inhabited the land, they wiped out their food source the Buffalo, gave them many European diseases, and Cornwallis passed the (Scalping Proclamation) giving everyone the right to scalp Indigenous men, women and children while offering a pay scale for each scalp.
The British Empire took a step back to the US Empire approximately 100 years ago, the Saxe Coburg-Gotha family left Germany in 1917 and immigrated to England were they took up the name Windsor, Secret Society members of the (Skull and Bones, Freemasons and Bohemian Grove) Prescott Bush and Averell Harriman helped finance Hitler’s Chancellorship and the Nazis in 1933 through their co-owned Global Bank (Brown Bros and Harriman) located in New York, this Deal with Hitler was brokered by Montague Norman who controlled the Global Bank of England, Prescott Bush and Averell Harriman were US Congressmen.
Winston Churchill becomes a War time Prime Minister in 1942, the same year Averell Harriman married his ex daughter-in-law, the same year the Pentagon begins construction and the same year both the US/UK Empire enters WWII, following WWII the UN is established in 1945, the CIA in 1947, the NAKBA in Palestine that sees 850,000 Palestinians leave their homes seeking refuge and Israel becoming a State, in 1949 NATO is established and several top Nazi Generals are placed in top positions within NATO.
What was the Scottish Freemasons New World Order they mentioned was their dream in 1604, a one world government/the UN HQ, a one world military/NATO and a one world currency/the US hegemony Petrol dollar and also I believe a one world religion and I believe the way things have been shaped through these combined empires it would be honouring a different God from the one most of us believe is our God.
Could she possibly say "diaspora" a few more times? SO very annoying 🤬