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Totally with you on this one as I have a metal stop and a wide hard stop. Very rare I hit the hard stop, soon as the mental triggered I look back at the trade and if the idea has changed I kill it. Over time makes more profit than a tight stop
I’ve been trying out a similar strategy on a demo account. And it’s been eye opener. The amount of trades I’ve won has been approx 80% Ok so it’s a demo account but there’s definitely food for thought on how to re approach making trades and being more profitable without stops.
You have to be a bit careful though. Essentially widening your stop should increase probabilities by default. Many traders actually do this when scalping - they might have a stop as far as 5x the target and even scale in as the trade goes against them. They may have win rates as high as 90% or even more. Yes, it works, but you can/will occasionally take a large loss if the market starts into a trend against you. This is fine if your gains are much larger than your losses, but can get out of hand quickly. If you are going to try it, I would suggest trading really small to start with and do that for a couple of months or so. It is useful, but takes quite a bit of skill and practice to be consistently profitable. It has to be done in the right environment and recognizing quickly when you are still in a trading range as opposed to starting a trend against you is critical.
This should be Strictly Used just to get Statistics of how you should properly put your Stop loss. The most difficult thing to do in trading is to control your emotions and focus by allowing this kind of strategy as part of trading plan will eventually ruin you R:R and eventually hurt your Account.
without stop loss its just like a hope which didn't work in markets. Here main problem is entry not stop loss as we are traders when we learn how and when to enter then you will get more profitable trades. Normal traders always buy where buyers and sellers fights for price and that is the point where you see long wicks candles. And if you have stop loss with minimum risk then you can re-enter in same trade but if that goes beyond your reach then you will book huge loss. So try to improve your entry point rather than discussing on stop loss.
I think it's difficult because you lose time to recovery a bad trade and not to make profit. I tried something of this but it's better to make a stop and when you have 3 or 4 stops in a row is time to close your pc and wait for next week!
Well I'm here because I took six trades Friday and all six of them would have been in profit instead of just three had my stop not been hit, so my levels are spot on it's just that the tght stop is not working for me, I'm going to risk about 20% of my capital, on this next set of trades with wider stops and see what kind of results I get
Here are my thoughts on it as a trend follower. I like 1 to 3 risk reward. 30 % wins. 30 pips won, 10 pips lost. 30 × 30 = 900. 70 × 10= 700. 2R will be 40 %. 40 × 30 = 1200 and 60 × 15 = 900. Have I any evidence for this 30 and 40 % win ratio? No, but I suspect it is in that area. I intend to find out exactly through testing. As a trend trader I don't think I can have my stop at 16 pips one time and 10 pips the next. So I feel a fixed stop/risk reward has its place. If I trade something else. Like a double top then I would lool at it differently. I would plave the stop where it no longer looks like a double top trade. I would look more into how the whole market structure looks like. Of course I would look into ehat happens after my stop is hit and adjust it with time.
i don't think this approach is a good idea cuz like this you will start to trade with your emotions and that a bad thing to do it's better to put your stop if it hits it hits note it down and go to your next trade
I’m sorry but this is a silly and dangerous strategy. Having a large SL 5x you trade risk is idiotic. There is no valid reason to do this. A much better strategy is to be stopped out at the level of your risk and if price does eventually come back in your favour, you can always come back into your trade.
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Totally with you on this one as I have a metal stop and a wide hard stop. Very rare I hit the hard stop, soon as the mental triggered I look back at the trade and if the idea has changed I kill it. Over time makes more profit than a tight stop
I've had many unpleasant experiences of being stopped out before the market take the anticipated direction.... It's very discouraging
I’ve been trying out a similar strategy on a demo account. And it’s been eye opener. The amount of trades I’ve won has been approx 80% Ok so it’s a demo account but there’s definitely food for thought on how to re approach making trades and being more profitable without stops.
You have to be a bit careful though. Essentially widening your stop should increase probabilities by default. Many traders actually do this when scalping - they might have a stop as far as 5x the target and even scale in as the trade goes against them. They may have win rates as high as 90% or even more.
Yes, it works, but you can/will occasionally take a large loss if the market starts into a trend against you. This is fine if your gains are much larger than your losses, but can get out of hand quickly. If you are going to try it, I would suggest trading really small to start with and do that for a couple of months or so. It is useful, but takes quite a bit of skill and practice to be consistently profitable. It has to be done in the right environment and recognizing quickly when you are still in a trading range as opposed to starting a trend against you is critical.
Because many brokers chase the stops. I never use them or at least never show them.
This should be Strictly Used just to get Statistics of how you should properly put your Stop loss. The most difficult thing to do in trading is to control your emotions and focus by allowing this kind of strategy as part of trading plan will eventually ruin you R:R and eventually hurt your Account.
without stop loss its just like a hope which didn't work in markets. Here main problem is entry not stop loss as we are traders when we learn how and when to enter then you will get more profitable trades. Normal traders always buy where buyers and sellers fights for price and that is the point where you see long wicks candles. And if you have stop loss with minimum risk then you can re-enter in same trade but if that goes beyond your reach then you will book huge loss. So try to improve your entry point rather than discussing on stop loss.
I think it's difficult because you lose time to recovery a bad trade and not to make profit. I tried something of this but it's better to make a stop and when you have 3 or 4 stops in a row is time to close your pc and wait for next week!
Well I'm here because I took six trades Friday and all six of them would have been in profit instead of just three had my stop not been hit, so my levels are spot on it's just that the tght stop is not working for me, I'm going to risk about 20% of my capital, on this next set of trades with wider stops and see what kind of results I get
I trade without stop lose but with a small lot size 0.04 for 1000$ account
1trade for a day that is safe for me
Here are my thoughts on it as a trend follower. I like 1 to 3 risk reward. 30 % wins. 30 pips won, 10 pips lost. 30 × 30 = 900. 70 × 10= 700. 2R will be 40 %. 40 × 30 = 1200 and 60 × 15 = 900. Have I any evidence for this 30 and 40 % win ratio? No, but I suspect it is in that area. I intend to find out exactly through testing.
As a trend trader I don't think I can have my stop at 16 pips one time and 10 pips the next. So I feel a fixed stop/risk reward has its place.
If I trade something else. Like a double top then I would lool at it differently. I would plave the stop where it no longer looks like a double top trade. I would look more into how the whole market structure looks like. Of course I would look into ehat happens after my stop is hit and adjust it with time.
You bet!
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i don't think this approach is a good idea cuz like this you will start to trade with your emotions and that a bad thing to do it's better to put your stop if it hits it hits note it down and go to your next trade
stop losses are a joke when day trading options or else you will blow up your account
I’m sorry but this is a silly and dangerous strategy. Having a large SL 5x you trade risk is idiotic. There is no valid reason to do this. A much better strategy is to be stopped out at the level of your risk and if price does eventually come back in your favour, you can always come back into your trade.
RISK is a four-letter word, ending in K. 😬