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Hey, zeos. Looking to get a pair of bookshelfs, I was planning on getting some micca rb 42's because of your feedback but how would these swan's compare?
Hi Z, should I get these Swan OS10 or the Swan M10plus for a small room? I do prioritise sub-bass, because I listen to mostly Dubstep and DnB. Both speakers are easily available here in China where I'm studying.
Bought these for a friend in FL. paid $135 and watched this review after. I feel confident she will love them. She listens to stock PC speakers and has a record player with built in speakers...She will be blown away 😊
I ordered these last week after being in my wishlist for a few days. I was on the fence about them but then Z posted a written review on them. Once I saw that I ordered.
I just scored these little beasties for my TV audio. I was looking for a sound bar, but found your review and was convinced to give'em a shot. Glad I did, cuz they sound great and were easily mounted on the wall. Another Z Review that left my wallet a little lighter and my ears a lot happier!!
I just watched an old video of your Monolith THX 15” sub review again. I can’t believe that I’ve been watching you for almost a decade! I’m not a cat person or a dog person but I am a Chewbacca fan!❤ It’s amazing to see how far you’ve come, from a dingy apartment to a dedicated house full of speakers and electronic equipment! You are living my dream!!😊 Can’t wait to see the next 10 years!!
Fortunately I got mine today glad I got in on it. I regret not ordering 2 sets to give my daughter. I don't think I can let this one leave me. Very balanced doesn't really need eq adjustments imo. I have a exos-9 I think I will be selling. This guy is perfect in my bedroom. For $150 this was definitely a no brainer. Let's just say 🤯
I can't believe these are this cheap, these sound amazing! The remote is unreliable if you need to change the volume frequently. I'll have to add a passive volume knob between the speakers and dac to fix that. I'm upgrading from the MB42X's you recommended over 7 years ago. Crazy how time flies.
I just ordered I haven't seen you this excited in a while. I am debating ordering a 2nd one for my daughter for Christmas. She isn't asking for a set but yet I think she needs a set.
completely wiped out the stock in a few hours not surprised. Sadly I won't be surprised to see the price go up. Should have ordered two sets right away.
I just got a pair and my brother got a pair. I have mine on my desk and they sound good. But my brothers are sitting on some stands in the basement and they sound INSANE, we A/B'd them between the ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52 with the Topping E30 DAC, and Yamaha AS301 integrated and there is very little difference. If you get these, let them have some room, give them space to breathe and they will sound magnificent. Thank you Zeos once again :)
Love it. We are totally spoiled in HiFi options these days. Incredible how many options there are.. Would be awesome to see how they chart / measured sound ..but it's fun seeing you react and express the raw experience instead of looking at a Klippel graph.. lol =) YES... Cloth covered. Linn Audio had some .. and also why I love Sonus Faber Lumina.. ( which I think you SHOULD get the Lumina 1 to hear ..100%) .. They are faux leather covered.. I love them. =) Thank you, Sir!
yup just got some 1 more triple driver on ears bc they were so cheap on their site on a WHIM bc i always wanted them...and now these are out, granted the 120$ sale price is pretty hard to come by in stock..even at 149$ they really have my attention...defenitely made it to the TOP of my list of "stuff to buy" once i put enough tips aside a few months down the road. XD i can always count on zeos....to help restructure the list for me...i had the swan D100s in my top 5...Im trying to be more "frugal" by w.e that regard even means. LOL but in the sense if i put some tips aside like 100$ a month...in 3 months id have some spare $$$ for "better" monitors....now i can afford something like these new swans and save towards a newer/gen BT 5.0 Dac potentially a stack. Which is on my list of audio priorities. By that regard i most definitely feel spoiled XD...even when covid first hit what 500-700$ could get you in total....to now creeping into 2023...is pretty astonishing...as far as destkop dac/amp options potential 150-300$ headphone options and some 100-200$ speakers options. You can really be SET up nicely for what used to cost you enough for a STACK decent open back HP and some "budget" speakers"...esp pre covid or pre 2015. As far as my "list" when i was first getting into stuff and was all hyped on my drop K7XX first editions as my entry. Its such a blessing to just be patient work on other things/goals in life....and just wake up to PERFORMANCE at this price/size...to re-define cost/performance of what is considered ideal for home/room/office use while being able to avert big price tags and expensive gear.
I still have my Swan Diva’s from around 2006 when I purchased them. The 5.2 towers as fronts, 4.2 towers for rears, 5.2C for center and still sound amazing. HiVi in China is the parent and knows what they are doing……
That burst at around 8:30 was . . . unreal. If that's how they sound over RUclips (even into HD660S headphones), then I'm definitely getting a pair for my wife. For the moment I'll stay with my NVA amps into the old Wharfdale Pacifics, but if I ever need to downsize I know where to look. In my family giraffes are called "Boys-a-boys" because that's what I came out with the first time I saw one in Kenya when I was a year old 😂
true, if youre sure the speakers/phones are capable then just upgrade the rest, good phones/ciems can easily produce/display even slightest improvement
almost got D100s....TBH this is growing more and more in the direction i wished....smaller/better/more ideal for home/room use....while being able to budget for something usable/affordable for gig/SHOW use. Its been too long and now is finally the time that we have affordable/portable/performance. Racing sim setup/gaming/tv bring them down for get-togethers during the holidays for some good music/entertainment. W.O having to drop stacks on desktop monitors+gear+ larger speakers if you want to pursue an amateur career at dj/audio production. You can effectively afford so much more $$$ towards other necessary investments in your audio passion/needs. Just glad ive waited long enough...it first started with BT/powered/individual DSP "budget" options as a detachment from "BUDGET" stand alone monitors/shelf speaker options....and now after some time we have something like this on our hands. "priced" up there with the portable BT speaker/pod portable noise box....price point. The level of usability and value these offer is unmatched, idk if saving 30$ is even worth it to me vs being able to get my hands on them in the first place NGL...though at 120$ thats quite the nominal bargain. I guess im in no RUSH then again a sale would definitely pull my leg. The closer i get to an ideal 4k tv for a racing sim setup and a DD wheel....the closer i am to considering monitors like these. Im still pretty vested in headphone use and being "democratic" to my household. But once i get a bit more serious with developing some driving skills/acumen as well as fiddling with music production. These really have my attention from a value standpoint and more importantly from a pure lifetime/intent to own/use aspect, Which i generally think pushes most customers/end users as the larger driving/motivating principle to why most ppl would buy/spend on something that arent as passionate/liberal with their audio expenditures, or are comfortable trying stuff out/selling second hand or forgoing a return process etc. So really this product isnt just good for those in the KNOW as far as what theyre getting/spending on....but given its price point/segment its also appealing to those not in the KNOW...or a would be gateway into hifi for most consumers/customers. Its actually nice to see given the amount of 200-500$ monitor reviews/vids/sales ive seen/passed up on in the last 3 years waiting for 4k tvs to go down in price and relatively up in performance.....as did the 10" or less monitor segment; if not its improved even faster than the time its taken for OLED tvs to equate to mainstream standards/pricing.
@Zeos Have you yet ever been able to get a support/warranty channel established to anyone at Swan? Unless things have improved, as we discussed many months ago, good luck if there's a problem beyond Amazon's return window...
@@ZReviews It is definitely a THING that keeps me from even considering anything from Swan. Unfortunately dems da facts. That being said....how can i be enjoying the kph30i's with Grado pads equally as much as my Ananda's. Stupid good and thanks to you for that! :)
Compared to the M10 plus (just picked up) - OS-10 or M10 plus, which do you prefer for desktop/near listening, and which for larger room/further back listening?
Very nice. I bought the Jamo S803 brand new a few weeks ago at $80 so I can’t justify pulling the trigger on these, but it’s in the same price as RB42s so these would have been on the running for my money if I had known about them at the time. Saved some money.
Man it sucks to live in EU sometimes... RB42s, so many other speakers and now these... I wish there was a good way to get them in the EU. Compared to other stuff, are they still worth 250 dollars with shipping and import? Currently using Atom SEs
Would be interesting to know what our best options are in Europe. Sure, we can get Edifier s3000, a boatload of klipsch/B&W/B&O/Dali, but non seem to be as good an option as some of the top tier stuff you are teasing us with. :)
This pair just arrived 4 days ago. Finally got to order it after months being out of stock. Now that I've been using it for 3 days listening to music across many genres, I'd say that they sound great to me. My room is around 4m x 4m, pretty small room, so that 62W doesn't bother me. However, I noticed that every time I tried pop/hip-hop songs that are bass-heavy, a certain noise comes out of the right powered unit. Turns out that noise comes out of the tiny hole that I assume is the IR receiver. Now I'm trying to figure out what's gonna be the best way to close the tiny hole without affecting the remote use. A piece of insulator tape might work, but I'm trying to keep adhesives off the beautiful speaker. Anyone facing the same issue & managed to solve it?
@@aing2009the IR receiver on the powered unit has a small hole that isn’t sealed. It’s really not a problem at this price point like he said cover with transparent tape. I found at out listening near field the noise and was concerned I covered the hole with my finger problem solved. Otherwise they sound fantastic just tape it
I'm really glad I saw this video today, cause I already convinced myself in my head that I needed the Q-Acoustics M2 and while I do want them I would literally go broke buying them. Thank you for always highlighting affordable audio Z! I'm currently waiting for my Sennheiser 6XX and ifi Zen Dac so I can finally have my first headphone setup. I'm definitely going to look at these next. Quick question, would you go for these over something like AudioEngine A2+ or equivalent hands down?
Unless you're only going to be playing at low volume, wouldn't you at least want the option of a sub? My desktop setup is Senn HD650, along with Vanatoo T0 (also Zeos recommended) and Cambridge Minx201. Definitely more expensive than Swans, but you gotta consider if you want bass below like 100hz.
@@AeroCluster The specific one's he's looking at--the Swans in this vid--don't have sub out OR regular binding posts for speaker level subs--and they're powered speakers. To me, you lose value to work around that... basically would have to split a 3.5mm and then 3.5mm to RCA. Looks like shit then and makes functionality pointless. But to each their own I suppose. Dumb of Swan to not include sub out really.
@@svalbard01 Probably relatively low volume, just because my room isn't too large. I have a record player and my other audio source would just be bluetooth Tidal. Right now I'm just running a u-turn orbit through my old bass amp just to be able to hear anything. I definitely was thinking of the option of a sub for sure, but I think realistically it would just be too much for just my room.
The set I ordered is apparently arriving tomorrow! The original delivery date was in the second week of January. I wonder why they overestimated the shipping time so much. Doesn't really matter I guess. Looking forward to trying them out this weekend!
Thanks for the great review! I’m currently using the KRK Rokit 5 g4 white my turntable and was wondering if the Swans would sound better for this. Thanks!
Thanks Zeos! I made two great purchases $1,000 for Von Schweikert VR-4 Generation 2 on Albert’s ( RIP Albert) suggestion, even when I was discussing a higher priced speaker he told me these were better. And the Os-10s for $169.99. I am a very happy camper.
Hi Zeos, is there any wool or something in the back port of your speaker? Mine is like stuffed with wool or something after some 3 months usage, but I've didn't notice the sound change or something.
I saw these but I already have the D1100 (yes, 1100, not 100), which are the same size and amp so I passed on them. Cool to see they sound really good as well.
Speakers are cool but I think your personality is cooler. I am looking for speakers but more come to hang out and have a good laugh and be entertained. Thank you so much for making me smile. Hope you are well.
i finally managed to get em available in canada during amazon prime days and after seeing ur review Zeos and the fact that they were also on sale, i decided to pull the trigger, i cant wait to have em tomorrow by end of day :)
I detected clear compression on Bluetooth, sure it's on LG C1 so prob not the best Bluetooth option ever but direct compared to optical and RCA I can hear clear sibilance with BT.
Purchases the Naumann NDH30 on your recommendation for Studio Mixing headphones, Dude, thanks, they are such good value, very happy bunny. I originally thought about using the Verum Ones however they are so hard to replace I didn’t want to invent time in learning to mix open the verums in case i lose them or they break. Nuamanns Rock.
just finished rewatching Interstellar with these... goddamn im missing out a lot, i have a lot of kilobuck iem and headphones, both Z1Rs, T1, ADX5000, Andro, Ocharaku and etc etc and man there's just something a 2 channel can do that they all can't... chest pounding bass, and its from a tiny 4 inch! XD i should get a subwoofer and connect it to my TA-ZH1ES input so i can use it with both these swan or any of my other cans XD this is the first time i rewatch Interstellar afer its first showing 9 years ago, and man with my LG C1 as the screen i feel like i got the best home experience i can get like ever..... and i just watched Dune a month ago with the same TV with my Z1R, I know its bad to compare the two, with interstellar's audio visual being such a stellar thing XD but man im more glued to the seat rewatching this than any movie ive had first watch of for the last year
Annnnd they're gone! For real though. I just joined your Patreon last night and happened to watch this video before it went live. I was in the market for something like this and managed to get them. So super happy about that.
I have no idea how this video ended up in my feed but I bought these damn things today because of you! I've never even heard of Swans speakers before. After I bought these, I saw some other Swans, M20-5.1MKII 5.1 Channel Home Theater Speaker System. I can't find a video on these anywhere but if you know anything, I would appreciate it. Thinking of them for the office.
i just ordered these they sound amazing. Only problem is i noticed the frequency response cuts out at 60hz. Do you have any recommendations for a budget sub woofer that would sound good under a desk?
@@hifiman4562 I have the same issue with these Swans. The bass is weak on some songs. I mostly use my Shanling DAP with aptX and LDAC capabilities with these Swans, which may be the reason for poor bass response. I noticed that these don't have sub-out. So, can you please let me know how can I connect a subwoofer to them if my source is the Shanling DAP?
I have a computer editing setup that doubles as a small home theater setup in my tiny apartment and I'm wondering your thoughts on these speakers vs the Kanto Tuk. I use my 27" computer monitor as the TV hooked up to Apple TV and I use my desktop MS40 Behringer Stereo monitors through an HDMI splitter to get coaxial out for TV. I use the optical connection for computer and coaxial for TV. The Behringer monitors don't have bluetooth or a remote, so there are some annoying work arounds I've done which don't bother me while sitting at my 🖥 but are super annoying when sitting on my couch (which is only about 5' away from desk). I've had this setup for several years, it's a secondary TV area and is mostly setup for video editing. I'm looking to upgrade my setup, get rid of the splitter, gain remote control but still retain the dual purpose setup. The TUK look perfect for my needs, but are so much more $ and if these OS-10 are even nearly as good or better at this price point... then it's a no brainer. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!
Back in stock at Amazon. Optical sounds better than AUX. AUX input is about 70-80% as good as digital. I am thinking the AUX/ANALOG input gets converted to digital so it is a longer signal path with a mediocre Analog to Digital converter. Will follow up after burn in.
Great looking home man! Might need a little decorative acoustic panels to cut on reverberation. ;) But beautiful space! Love the channel man... been following for a few years now and always great info... Don't post often though. What do you think of the older Dali Concept 2's?
I need some new desktop speakers for my office, after seeing your reviews on the OS-10 I looked if I can source some to the UK. I have found a supplier who I can import from but will take a little while, before I start the process I thought I’d ask your opinion. So I’m looking at the Swans or the AudioEngine A2+ which I can get locally. Need something small with at least two inputs not too bothered about Bluetooth. Are swan OS 10 still the best option ? Thanks for the content Cheers
Bought, it just came into my country with a free interconnect cable, kinda just have to try. I have everything to drive it, a Sony TA-ZH1ES and lots of kilobucks headphones, kinda have to have convenient mini speakers like this for other occasions.
@@BeastModeZone I bought the earliest one that came in the country, a phone will do the trick just fine. It also have Bluetooth as well so that's even more convenient, personally I reserve the other input for other devices and use Bluetooth with phone as I find when I used Bluetooth with my LG C1 everything sounded more sibilant and harsh sounding. Kinda a shame as with Bluetooth connected to TV I can control the volume directly using the LG TV remote. The worst thing about this speaker is how there's no led in front of the speakers, so there's no indication whether you change anything while pressing the remote other than just hearing the change.
Ordered a pair off Taobao and they are on their way. Been awhile since I used Swans, last were the H4s. Can't wait to audition them and thanks for the recommendation!
They sound great but just 2 qeustion’s how do they stack up against the edifier r2000db, and does it come with front covers to keep dust and grime away from the woofers?
Zeus, when reviewing the Edifier Airpulse A100, please tell us which DAC's should we pair it up with.... The Aune X1S really unlocks these speakers potential.... The USB is crap. I'm really suprised with the complements these speakers get from other RUclipsrs who just hook them up directly to a computer.... Makes me wonder how they would sound on a SMSL M500 mark 1 which has double the sampling rate of what my Aune X1S gives...
I mean honestly behind a curtain if you had to guess. The KEF would probably have more detail. But on bass and sound presentation probably real hard to tell apart
@@ZReviews Ok, I don’t need portability, but I do want to be able to mount them on clamp on desk stands to save space. Do the swans have a threaded hole for stands? thanks for response!
It appears that Swan has halted shipments, and canceled availability due to the high volume of sales. My guess, they will be available at most purchase points in the next 30 days with revised pricing unfortunately. I missed out on the cheap introductory pricing again, ugh!!
Knowing the Chinese, they could be in a lawsuit for copyright or whatsoever. Products don't just disappear on listing unless there is a recall, pending lawsuit or copyright infringement. We will see.
Just got these bad boys the other week and seems that Optical input is superior than BT and AUX. Reference track is Mountains from Interstellar. The peak in the track is somewhat supressed in BT and AUX but is mind blowing thru Optical. Can someone please verify because I am trying to look for a USB to Optical or Coax cost effective solution right now.
I simply connect their included toslink cable to the port on my motherboard and the quality is there. However the overall enjoyment is still slightly lesser than my currently 8+ year old faulty m50w from swanspeakers that was connected by 3.5mm . Previously tried to connect a low end USB DAC that had a toslink out as well, but even that died on me not long after I bought my OS-10s.
The answer is they don't. If you had a choice between these and the LSR305s its the JBLs every time. Unless you need a smaller speaker with Bluetooth because you can't be bothered with any Bluetooth module then maybe. Otherwise be happy with your LSR305s which are clearly and easily better. I think I am putting these next to my google home in the kitchen. Not in any space I plan to actually listen to music.
I ordered my pair and should be coming in today. Theyre on amazon now for 135. I want to get a dac amd wanted to if you recommend the FiiO NEWK3 Amplifier? BTW dope video
Hi, I hv this speaker for 6 months and the sound just good at this price ! but hv some issue, the touch panel menu doesn't work, just RMA for replacement panel, sadly it comeback with same problem. any idea? Thanks!
@Zeos Great they are sold out. Are the HiVi-Swans M10 Plus White Bookshelf Speaker, Bluetooth 5.0 with Subwoofer 2.1 Speaker System Wireless Good? Thanks
I'm thinking to get another pair of these to try and hack and run on Lithium Ion batteries. . . does anyone happen to know what the operating DC supply voltage is if I bypass the A/C supply?
i’m getting the d200 for my living room. have d100 at the office so i kinda love swan’s tweeters now, i need to search for their car speakers next year....and these speakers look meh. i could see it blend in some homes and a 4 inch midwoofer has many limitations. you can't push max volume and experience only on axis sound like your basement. I tested rb42 in 3 rooms at work on a weekend and finally gifted it to someone.
So, for $150, would you pick these or the Micca RB42? I was going to buy the MiccaRB42's a while back and never did.. but now these are the same price.. I guess the RB42 is passive, but.. thoughts? Thank you!
@Z Reviews Cool deal!! Was thinking about them for a bedroom.. and then potentially a really really budget set up for the living room.. just something better than the TV speakers.. don't need anything huge or fancy.. these seemed like a decent idea. I have no gear currently at the house, just an A50 stack and some OH10's at work.. so this would be the start of the home stuff.
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Hey, zeos. Looking to get a pair of bookshelfs, I was planning on getting some micca rb 42's because of your feedback but how would these swan's compare?
The RB42 are as good as these BUT you need a lot of very very clean power to get them there. Like 100 wpc and linear.
Hi Z, should I get these Swan OS10 or the Swan M10plus for a small room? I do prioritise sub-bass, because I listen to mostly Dubstep and DnB. Both speakers are easily available here in China where I'm studying.
What track was playing at 6:19?
12:42 Aged WAY too much like a fine wine.
Bought these for a friend in FL. paid $135 and watched this review after. I feel confident she will love them. She listens to stock PC speakers and has a record player with built in speakers...She will be blown away 😊
I ordered these last week after being in my wishlist for a few days. I was on the fence about them but then Z posted a written review on them. Once I saw that I ordered.
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
I am blown away by the clarity and crispiness of the sounds produced by these speakers.
Through his mic, in his room, over your phone? Not serious are you?
@@Clobercow1 he probably owns a set
Yeah. I do own a pair of these
@@AlphaEckoNiner9nercan confirm of all my expensive audio toys these sound so good it’s offensive at this price
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
I just scored these little beasties for my TV audio. I was looking for a sound bar, but found your review and was convinced to give'em a shot. Glad I did, cuz they sound great and were easily mounted on the wall. Another Z Review that left my wallet a little lighter and my ears a lot happier!!
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
I just watched an old video of your Monolith THX 15” sub review again. I can’t believe that I’ve been watching you for almost a decade! I’m not a cat person or a dog person but I am a Chewbacca fan!❤ It’s amazing to see how far you’ve come, from a dingy apartment to a dedicated house full of speakers and electronic equipment! You are living my dream!!😊 Can’t wait to see the next 10 years!!
Fortunately I got mine today glad I got in on it. I regret not ordering 2 sets to give my daughter. I don't think I can let this one leave me. Very balanced doesn't really need eq adjustments imo. I have a exos-9 I think I will be selling. This guy is perfect in my bedroom. For $150 this was definitely a no brainer. Let's just say 🤯
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
I can't believe these are this cheap, these sound amazing! The remote is unreliable if you need to change the volume frequently. I'll have to add a passive volume knob between the speakers and dac to fix that.
I'm upgrading from the MB42X's you recommended over 7 years ago. Crazy how time flies.
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
I just ordered I haven't seen you this excited in a while. I am debating ordering a 2nd one for my daughter for Christmas. She isn't asking for a set but yet I think she needs a set.
The Gift of Audio is always a good one.
completely wiped out the stock in a few hours not surprised. Sadly I won't be surprised to see the price go up. Should have ordered two sets right away.
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
I just got a pair and my brother got a pair. I have mine on my desk and they sound good. But my brothers are sitting on some stands in the basement and they sound INSANE, we A/B'd them between the ELAC Uni-Fi 2.0 UB52 with the Topping E30 DAC, and Yamaha AS301 integrated and there is very little difference. If you get these, let them have some room, give them space to breathe and they will sound magnificent. Thank you Zeos once again :)
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
Love it. We are totally spoiled in HiFi options these days. Incredible how many options there are.. Would be awesome to see how they chart / measured sound ..but it's fun seeing you react and express the raw experience instead of looking at a Klippel graph.. lol =)
YES... Cloth covered. Linn Audio had some .. and also why I love Sonus Faber Lumina.. ( which I think you SHOULD get the Lumina 1 to hear ..100%) ..
They are faux leather covered.. I love them. =)
Thank you, Sir!
yup just got some 1 more triple driver on ears bc they were so cheap on their site on a WHIM bc i always wanted them...and now these are out, granted the 120$ sale price is pretty hard to come by in stock..even at 149$ they really have my attention...defenitely made it to the TOP of my list of "stuff to buy" once i put enough tips aside a few months down the road. XD i can always count on zeos....to help restructure the list for me...i had the swan D100s in my top 5...Im trying to be more "frugal" by w.e that regard even means. LOL but in the sense if i put some tips aside like 100$ a month...in 3 months id have some spare $$$ for "better" monitors....now i can afford something like these new swans and save towards a newer/gen BT 5.0 Dac potentially a stack. Which is on my list of audio priorities. By that regard i most definitely feel spoiled XD...even when covid first hit what 500-700$ could get you in total....to now creeping into 2023...is pretty astonishing...as far as destkop dac/amp options potential 150-300$ headphone options and some 100-200$ speakers options. You can really be SET up nicely for what used to cost you enough for a STACK decent open back HP and some "budget" speakers"...esp pre covid or pre 2015. As far as my "list" when i was first getting into stuff and was all hyped on my drop K7XX first editions as my entry. Its such a blessing to just be patient work on other things/goals in life....and just wake up to PERFORMANCE at this price/size...to re-define cost/performance of what is considered ideal for home/room/office use while being able to avert big price tags and expensive gear.
I still have my Swan Diva’s from around 2006 when I purchased them. The 5.2 towers as fronts, 4.2 towers for rears, 5.2C for center and still sound amazing. HiVi in China is the parent and knows what they are doing……
Your reviews give me life. You exude life essence straight into the viewers’ ear holes and for that I thank you
That burst at around 8:30 was . . . unreal. If that's how they sound over RUclips (even into HD660S headphones), then I'm definitely getting a pair for my wife.
For the moment I'll stay with my NVA amps into the old Wharfdale Pacifics, but if I ever need to downsize I know where to look.
In my family giraffes are called "Boys-a-boys" because that's what I came out with the first time I saw one in Kenya when I was a year old 😂
So which is better for desktop speakers?
Swans d100 Vs swans os10? The os10 is cheaper than the 100 but it sound better?
I see Rem, Shinobu, and Rei, so clearly this is a person of taste speaking.
Same to be said about you
If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with. That applies to speakers also.
true, if youre sure the speakers/phones are capable then just upgrade the rest, good phones/ciems can easily produce/display even slightest improvement
I love it!!! a year later and Z is still rocking the comments…says that these are still the shit🎉🎉🎉
I am going to buy these for a wedding present 😂😂😂
😂🤣The frog... "Wtf is this?"
Their name and similarity with the Overnight Sensations can't be a coincidence.
CONSPIRACY!! Also these self power and those needed like 200wpc!
almost got D100s....TBH this is growing more and more in the direction i wished....smaller/better/more ideal for home/room use....while being able to budget for something usable/affordable for gig/SHOW use. Its been too long and now is finally the time that we have affordable/portable/performance. Racing sim setup/gaming/tv bring them down for get-togethers during the holidays for some good music/entertainment. W.O having to drop stacks on desktop monitors+gear+ larger speakers if you want to pursue an amateur career at dj/audio production. You can effectively afford so much more $$$ towards other necessary investments in your audio passion/needs. Just glad ive waited long enough...it first started with BT/powered/individual DSP "budget" options as a detachment from "BUDGET" stand alone monitors/shelf speaker options....and now after some time we have something like this on our hands. "priced" up there with the portable BT speaker/pod portable noise box....price point. The level of usability and value these offer is unmatched, idk if saving 30$ is even worth it to me vs being able to get my hands on them in the first place NGL...though at 120$ thats quite the nominal bargain. I guess im in no RUSH then again a sale would definitely pull my leg. The closer i get to an ideal 4k tv for a racing sim setup and a DD wheel....the closer i am to considering monitors like these. Im still pretty vested in headphone use and being "democratic" to my household. But once i get a bit more serious with developing some driving skills/acumen as well as fiddling with music production. These really have my attention from a value standpoint and more importantly from a pure lifetime/intent to own/use aspect, Which i generally think pushes most customers/end users as the larger driving/motivating principle to why most ppl would buy/spend on something that arent as passionate/liberal with their audio expenditures, or are comfortable trying stuff out/selling second hand or forgoing a return process etc. So really this product isnt just good for those in the KNOW as far as what theyre getting/spending on....but given its price point/segment its also appealing to those not in the KNOW...or a would be gateway into hifi for most consumers/customers. Its actually nice to see given the amount of 200-500$ monitor reviews/vids/sales ive seen/passed up on in the last 3 years waiting for 4k tvs to go down in price and relatively up in performance.....as did the 10" or less monitor segment; if not its improved even faster than the time its taken for OLED tvs to equate to mainstream standards/pricing.
@Zeos Have you yet ever been able to get a support/warranty channel established to anyone at Swan? Unless things have improved, as we discussed many months ago, good luck if there's a problem beyond Amazon's return window...
I could ask them about ways to go about this. If there are more specific channels to go through etc.
@@ZReviews It is definitely a THING that keeps me from even considering anything from Swan. Unfortunately dems da facts. That being said....how can i be enjoying the kph30i's with Grado pads equally as much as my Ananda's. Stupid good and thanks to you for that! :)
Compared to the M10 plus (just picked up) - OS-10 or M10 plus, which do you prefer for desktop/near listening, and which for larger room/further back listening?
Very nice. I bought the Jamo S803 brand new a few weeks ago at $80 so I can’t justify pulling the trigger on these, but it’s in the same price as RB42s so these would have been on the running for my money if I had known about them at the time. Saved some money.
Buy these over rb42
Man it sucks to live in EU sometimes... RB42s, so many other speakers and now these... I wish there was a good way to get them in the EU.
Compared to other stuff, are they still worth 250 dollars with shipping and import? Currently using Atom SEs
Same :/
maybe Z can push Swan and Micca companys to open some store in EU. hihi
@@tonac1902 that would be sick
Would be interesting to know what our best options are in Europe.
Sure, we can get Edifier s3000, a boatload of klipsch/B&W/B&O/Dali, but non seem to be as good an option as some of the top tier stuff you are teasing us with. :)
Luv the Eddies.
This pair just arrived 4 days ago. Finally got to order it after months being out of stock.
Now that I've been using it for 3 days listening to music across many genres, I'd say that they sound great to me. My room is around 4m x 4m, pretty small room, so that 62W doesn't bother me. However, I noticed that every time I tried pop/hip-hop songs that are bass-heavy, a certain noise comes out of the right powered unit. Turns out that noise comes out of the tiny hole that I assume is the IR receiver. Now I'm trying to figure out what's gonna be the best way to close the tiny hole without affecting the remote use. A piece of insulator tape might work, but I'm trying to keep adhesives off the beautiful speaker. Anyone facing the same issue & managed to solve it?
I fixed it by using transparent tape. I know it’s there but you can’t see it.
Certain noise? What kind of noise is it? Thinking about a pair but rather not buy if there’s an issue out of the box.
@@aing2009the IR receiver on the powered unit has a small hole that isn’t sealed. It’s really not a problem at this price point like he said cover with transparent tape. I found at out listening near field the noise and was concerned I covered the hole with my finger problem solved. Otherwise they sound fantastic just tape it
I'm really glad I saw this video today, cause I already convinced myself in my head that I needed the Q-Acoustics M2 and while I do want them I would literally go broke buying them. Thank you for always highlighting affordable audio Z! I'm currently waiting for my Sennheiser 6XX and ifi Zen Dac so I can finally have my first headphone setup. I'm definitely going to look at these next. Quick question, would you go for these over something like AudioEngine A2+ or equivalent hands down?
Unless you're only going to be playing at low volume, wouldn't you at least want the option of a sub? My desktop setup is Senn HD650, along with Vanatoo T0 (also Zeos recommended) and Cambridge Minx201. Definitely more expensive than Swans, but you gotta consider if you want bass below like 100hz.
@@svalbard01 Your speakers don't need a sub out to add a sub to your setup. Having one makes it easier, but it's not a hard requirement.
@@AeroCluster The specific one's he's looking at--the Swans in this vid--don't have sub out OR regular binding posts for speaker level subs--and they're powered speakers. To me, you lose value to work around that... basically would have to split a 3.5mm and then 3.5mm to RCA. Looks like shit then and makes functionality pointless. But to each their own I suppose. Dumb of Swan to not include sub out really.
@@svalbard01 Probably relatively low volume, just because my room isn't too large. I have a record player and my other audio source would just be bluetooth Tidal. Right now I'm just running a u-turn orbit through my old bass amp just to be able to hear anything. I definitely was thinking of the option of a sub for sure, but I think realistically it would just be too much for just my room.
@@svalbard01 how do u like ur vanatoo t0? Maybe in imaging and soundstage department for desktop listening? Was considering those speakers for gaming
The set I ordered is apparently arriving tomorrow!
The original delivery date was in the second week of January. I wonder why they overestimated the shipping time so much.
Doesn't really matter I guess. Looking forward to trying them out this weekend!
Mines coming Wednesday. Swans new releases always seem to have huge shipping estimates and then come relatively quick. My d1090 were the same
@@Beardman56 How do they compare to the D1090 ?
Thanks for the great review! I’m currently using the KRK Rokit 5 g4 white my turntable and was wondering if the Swans would sound better for this. Thanks!
Thanks Zeos! I made two great purchases $1,000 for Von Schweikert VR-4 Generation 2 on Albert’s ( RIP Albert) suggestion, even when I was discussing a higher priced speaker he told me these were better. And the Os-10s for $169.99. I am a very happy camper.
Hi Zeos, is there any wool or something in the back port of your speaker? Mine is like stuffed with wool or something after some 3 months usage, but I've didn't notice the sound change or something.
I saw these but I already have the D1100 (yes, 1100, not 100), which are the same size and amp so I passed on them. Cool to see they sound really good as well.
Just picked these up at a yard sale in pristine condition for 30 bucks. Glad to find out they slap.
Speakers are cool but I think your personality is cooler. I am looking for speakers but more come to hang out and have a good laugh and be entertained. Thank you so much for making me smile. Hope you are well.
i finally managed to get em available in canada during amazon prime days and after seeing ur review Zeos and the fact that they were also on sale, i decided to pull the trigger, i cant wait to have em tomorrow by end of day :)
Congrats regarding being an Uncle. That's one lucky kid!🤔🤫😉😇
Sir, how about this vs the MR4? sound quality wise and how loud can it be
Thanks!
I have the M200MKII’s and I’m happy with the sound they produce in my small apt.
I detected clear compression on Bluetooth, sure it's on LG C1 so prob not the best Bluetooth option ever but direct compared to optical and RCA I can hear clear sibilance with BT.
Purchases the Naumann NDH30 on your recommendation for Studio Mixing headphones, Dude, thanks, they are such good value, very happy bunny. I originally thought about using the Verum Ones however they are so hard to replace I didn’t want to invent time in learning to mix open the verums in case i lose them or they break. Nuamanns Rock.
just finished rewatching Interstellar with these... goddamn im missing out a lot, i have a lot of kilobuck iem and headphones, both Z1Rs, T1, ADX5000, Andro, Ocharaku and etc etc and man there's just something a 2 channel can do that they all can't... chest pounding bass, and its from a tiny 4 inch! XD
i should get a subwoofer and connect it to my TA-ZH1ES input so i can use it with both these swan or any of my other cans XD
this is the first time i rewatch Interstellar afer its first showing 9 years ago, and man with my LG C1 as the screen i feel like i got the best home experience i can get like ever.....
and i just watched Dune a month ago with the same TV with my Z1R, I know its bad to compare the two, with interstellar's audio visual being such a stellar thing XD but man im more glued to the seat rewatching this than any movie ive had first watch of for the last year
Annnnd they're gone!
For real though. I just joined your Patreon last night and happened to watch this video before it went live. I was in the market for something like this and managed to get them. So super happy about that.
I should pin this message. So people get it.
@@ZReviewsZeos did you smell any electric burning smell from the OS-10s while they were idling?
Just got them yesterday must admit they are damn clear and powerful for a small set of speakers
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
I have no idea how this video ended up in my feed but I bought these damn things today because of you! I've never even heard of Swans speakers before. After I bought these, I saw some other Swans, M20-5.1MKII 5.1 Channel Home Theater Speaker System. I can't find a video on these anywhere but if you know anything, I would appreciate it. Thinking of them for the office.
Getting mine Jan 3. $115 here in China :D First time I am buying sth because of one of Steven's reviews, fingers crossed.
i just ordered these they sound amazing. Only problem is i noticed the frequency response cuts out at 60hz. Do you have any recommendations for a budget sub woofer that would sound good under a desk?
Get the Emotiva se8. Set the high pass crossover to 80hz.
@@hifiman4562 I have the same issue with these Swans. The bass is weak on some songs. I mostly use my Shanling DAP with aptX and LDAC capabilities with these Swans, which may be the reason for poor bass response. I noticed that these don't have sub-out. So, can you please let me know how can I connect a subwoofer to them if my source is the Shanling DAP?
I have a computer editing setup that doubles as a small home theater setup in my tiny apartment and I'm wondering your thoughts on these speakers vs the Kanto Tuk. I use my 27" computer monitor as the TV hooked up to Apple TV and I use my desktop MS40 Behringer Stereo monitors through an HDMI splitter to get coaxial out for TV. I use the optical connection for computer and coaxial for TV. The Behringer monitors don't have bluetooth or a remote, so there are some annoying work arounds I've done which don't bother me while sitting at my 🖥 but are super annoying when sitting on my couch (which is only about 5' away from desk). I've had this setup for several years, it's a secondary TV area and is mostly setup for video editing. I'm looking to upgrade my setup, get rid of the splitter, gain remote control but still retain the dual purpose setup. The TUK look perfect for my needs, but are so much more $ and if these OS-10 are even nearly as good or better at this price point... then it's a no brainer. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks!
Z Reviews create amazing video's. One question power speakers os-10 24/96 support or 24/192? Sites not info! Thanks advance
I was going to get Edifier R1700's as my first pair of bookshelf speakers, I got these instead. The sound is unbelievable.
Hi there, don't they sound like plastic to you as I have read in other comments?
How do these compare to the Edifier S880DB?
Was able to order some today and coming by 1/9-1/10. Thanks again for finding theses unicorns and sharing with us.
D100, m10 plus and OS 10 which one the best?
Like most things Z reviews, they can't be purchased in the EU.
Back in stock at Amazon. Optical sounds better than AUX. AUX input is about 70-80% as good as digital. I am thinking the AUX/ANALOG input gets converted to digital so it is a longer signal path with a mediocre Analog to Digital converter. Will follow up after burn in.
Swan/HiVi make some great speakers.
Great looking home man! Might need a little decorative acoustic panels to cut on reverberation. ;) But beautiful space! Love the channel man... been following for a few years now and always great info... Don't post often though. What do you think of the older Dali Concept 2's?
Thanks...What amp are you using? The Topping? Sorry for noobness.
I need some new desktop speakers for my office, after seeing your reviews on the OS-10 I looked if I can source some to the UK. I have found a supplier who I can import from but will take a little while, before I start the process I thought I’d ask your opinion.
So I’m looking at the Swans or the AudioEngine A2+ which I can get locally. Need something small with at least two inputs not too bothered about Bluetooth.
Are swan OS 10 still the best option ?
Thanks for the content
Cheers
Bought, it just came into my country with a free interconnect cable, kinda just have to try. I have everything to drive it, a Sony TA-ZH1ES and lots of kilobucks headphones, kinda have to have convenient mini speakers like this for other occasions.
Is a phone and a good dongle do the thing? I've also live in Indonesia and recently bought this speaker but it's not arrived yet.
@@BeastModeZone I bought the earliest one that came in the country, a phone will do the trick just fine.
It also have Bluetooth as well so that's even more convenient, personally I reserve the other input for other devices and use Bluetooth with phone as I find when I used Bluetooth with my LG C1 everything sounded more sibilant and harsh sounding.
Kinda a shame as with Bluetooth connected to TV I can control the volume directly using the LG TV remote.
The worst thing about this speaker is how there's no led in front of the speakers, so there's no indication whether you change anything while pressing the remote other than just hearing the change.
Nice thank you very much my Friend, mine will arrive tomorrow, hope it'll be great! 😁👍
Hi man, is there any wool or something in the back port of your speaker? Mine is like stuffed with wool or something after some 3 months usage.
Any second thoughts on the os10 vs the D100? Is the os-10 really better?
i love Zeos adhd in action
Ordered a pair off Taobao and they are on their way. Been awhile since I used Swans, last were the H4s. Can't wait to audition them and thanks for the recommendation!
They sound great but just 2 qeustion’s how do they stack up against the edifier r2000db, and does it come with front covers to keep dust and grime away from the woofers?
I've had the Klipsch R-41M speakers in my "buy sometime in the future" list but maybe this needs to replace them
Lexus flexes from Long Beach to Texas.
Zeus, when reviewing the Edifier Airpulse A100, please tell us which DAC's should we pair it up with.... The Aune X1S really unlocks these speakers potential.... The USB is crap. I'm really suprised with the complements these speakers get from other RUclipsrs who just hook them up directly to a computer.... Makes me wonder how they would sound on a SMSL M500 mark 1 which has double the sampling rate of what my Aune X1S gives...
In your opinion: are they better than the elara triangle LN-01A? Apart from the price. Only sound...
Thanks Z Great speakers
Are they good speakers for near-field? Sorry if I missed if you mentioned it in the video
It looks impressive! How would it compare to some kef lsx and 10x it's price acoustic energy ae1 active though ? Thanks in advance!
I mean honestly behind a curtain if you had to guess. The KEF would probably have more detail. But on bass and sound presentation probably real hard to tell apart
Ive got a set of I loud micro monitors, Would these be decent upgrade? I got the micro monitors for $200 that are still within the return period btw
I mean both are great. THESE are a bit more quality. The Micros are for extreme small and travelability.
@@ZReviews Ok, I don’t need portability, but I do want to be able to mount them on clamp on desk stands to save space. Do the swans have a threaded hole for stands? thanks for response!
Glad that being in europe cuts the choices in my budget range down to edifiers mr4 and......uhhh... well i like the white anyway
It appears that Swan has halted shipments, and canceled availability due to the high volume of sales. My guess, they will be available at most purchase points in the next 30 days with revised pricing unfortunately. I missed out on the cheap introductory pricing again, ugh!!
Well let's hope they do better than the d1090. A bunch of us bought them when they first came out then they were basically never available again
Knowing the Chinese, they could be in a lawsuit for copyright or whatsoever. Products don't just disappear on listing unless there is a recall, pending lawsuit or copyright infringement. We will see.
Zeos, whats a good sub to pair with them in a small office?
I mean budget matters. Spending $500? Martin Logan Dynamo 400 .. Or just a Jamo C910 for budget.
I wish more reviews were more like yours ! this is epic and real and yes, I bought a pair os Swans !
Gorgeous reverb in that room
Just got these bad boys the other week and seems that Optical input is superior than BT and AUX. Reference track is Mountains from Interstellar. The peak in the track is somewhat supressed in BT and AUX but is mind blowing thru Optical. Can someone please verify because I am trying to look for a USB to Optical or Coax cost effective solution right now.
I simply connect their included toslink cable to the port on my motherboard and the quality is there. However the overall enjoyment is still slightly lesser than my currently 8+ year old faulty m50w from swanspeakers that was connected by 3.5mm .
Previously tried to connect a low end USB DAC that had a toslink out as well, but even that died on me not long after I bought my OS-10s.
Was looking for a $100-150 speaker for a gift pc Im giving so thanks this was timely af
These or Kanto ORAs? Both with a subwoofer.
I have the LSR305 in my office right now. Would these be a clear upgrade?
wondering the same
I want to say YES but the 305 have been a goat for years. Only one way to find out.
The answer is they don't. If you had a choice between these and the LSR305s its the JBLs every time. Unless you need a smaller speaker with Bluetooth because you can't be bothered with any Bluetooth module then maybe. Otherwise be happy with your LSR305s which are clearly and easily better. I think I am putting these next to my google home in the kitchen. Not in any space I plan to actually listen to music.
Houses in the north I’ve noticed are not air sealed! So you have heat or cold coming in through the damn outlets depending on the season.
I mean I have EIGHT double doors on the main floor.. EIGHT! I went over the seals last year I will have to do it again this year.
I ordered my pair and should be coming in today. Theyre on amazon now for 135. I want to get a dac amd wanted to if you recommend the FiiO NEWK3 Amplifier? BTW dope video
these are great. i bought 7 units so far for friends and myself
How do they compare to the D1090 ?
Hey Zeos, how would you say these compare against the Neumi BS5's?
Neumi are a joke compared to these.
@Z Reviews thank u sir 🙏
If anyone has these, would you add a subwoofer to them? And if you did, how did you add a sub without a sub out?
Hi, I hv this speaker for 6 months and the sound just good at this price !
but hv some issue, the touch panel menu doesn't work, just RMA for replacement panel, sadly it comeback with same problem. any idea?
Thanks!
Hey, as this is mostly out of stock. I'm looking to get a desktop speaker. Do you think edifier r2000db is better or equal of this swans
Not equal. But I like edifier and their offerings
@@ZReviews ah alright! Do you think edifier S351DB is a good option too?
As its currently only 200 usd for me the s351db
@Zeos Great they are sold out. Are the HiVi-Swans M10 Plus White Bookshelf Speaker, Bluetooth 5.0 with Subwoofer 2.1 Speaker System Wireless Good? Thanks
Since these are eternally sold out; do you have any opinion of the Swan D1100? I need a computer speaker.
They gone for the kef lsx fabrication. I like it.
Should I go for these or iLoud Micros?
These unless you need ABSOLUTELY the smallest. Then the BMR1's come into play as they are skinny also.
@@ZReviews Thanks, Z!
Just ordered a pair.
My first speakers in over 10 years. Fingers crossed 😅
I'm thinking to get another pair of these to try and hack and run on Lithium Ion batteries. . . does anyone happen to know what the operating DC supply voltage is if I bypass the A/C supply?
Your video quality is outstanding
so do i go for these or the m50w first verison? for desktop use on my table with my macbook and monitor ???
i’m getting the d200 for my living room. have d100 at the office so i kinda love swan’s tweeters now, i need to search for their car speakers next year....and these speakers look meh. i could see it blend in some homes and a 4 inch midwoofer has many limitations. you can't push max volume and experience only on axis sound like your basement. I tested rb42 in 3 rooms at work on a weekend and finally gifted it to someone.
D200 is here for review as well. I will complete the Trifecta!
So, for $150, would you pick these or the Micca RB42? I was going to buy the MiccaRB42's a while back and never did.. but now these are the same price.. I guess the RB42 is passive, but.. thoughts? Thank you!
I run the RB42 on a ton of amps. They sound their best on a $2000 set of Starkrimson monoblocks. Sooooo. These?
@Z Reviews Cool deal!! Was thinking about them for a bedroom.. and then potentially a really really budget set up for the living room.. just something better than the TV speakers.. don't need anything huge or fancy.. these seemed like a decent idea. I have no gear currently at the house, just an A50 stack and some OH10's at work.. so this would be the start of the home stuff.
Hi Zeos and all, is there any way to find those OS-10 in Europe ? (I'm in France). Thanks !