@@quin4824true but how she told them were so entertaining 😭😭 that's why I was a fan of Tana in the 2016-2017 era bc it was so funny how she was telling them despite having her stalker story get debunked and everything
@@AdamMcIntyrewhat’s most cringe about the entire argument is Trish very easily could have said, “whenever I said anything to you for however long, I was not under the impression that we were friends. That’s why I say that me and you aren’t friends. It wasn’t malicious, it’s truly how I perceived it.” Gabby is trying to convince Trish that they were friends and Trish is refusing to.
Yesss but at the same time Trish has made her s life things public. If there are any super fans they will remember (I think it may be deleted now). It was her on her balcony I think with her mom during a q&a and she said she was + for things. It was YEARSSS ago but someone else has to remember this too!
@@chy6660 it doesn't matter how public someone's life is and if they chose to make information public. that's their choice. it is NOBODY ELSE'S choice to make someone else's information public. that's fucked up
@@romanrodriguez3959It started that way, yes. Then as Trish kept saying Gabbie didn't mean anything to her she then was trying to tell Trish "okay, so x, y, z examples are why I was under the impression that we were friends. I didn't know the feeling wasn't mutual." But Trisha kept talking over her the whole time and wasn't letting her even finish a full sentence. I don't stand behind Gabbie in the slightest, but in this situation she was definitely justified to her feelings.
@@NoTimeToExplain- you’re right. You have a point. I guess trish here just irritates me more because shes blatantly ignoring facts, disregarding their interactions, and gaslighting her. Gabbie isn’t innocent but…at least shes being a bit more logical here
@@NoTimeToExplain-well Gabbie would’ve felt guilty if she didn’t tell her best friend about the heroes thing if he caught it. She’s damned if she does damned if she doesnt
what’s CRAZY is that the way Trisha is gaslighting Gabbie is the same way she accused Ethan of speaking to her in the last episode of frenemies that ended the show…. Couldn’t handle her own heat!
I was coming to see who called the gaslighting, maybe Gabbie interpreted their interactions as more than they were but if you have a conversation with someone and hear them later reference that exact situation/ phrasing most people would logically think oh she’s talking about me. Trisha saying she’s crazy for that is kind of wild that doesn’t make you paranoid the dots literally connect and she got angry at her for connecting them 😒 Trisha does the same thing to this day all the time connecting dots like “that persons throwing shade”🙃
Ugh yeah. I really wanted to know what was up, but I couldn't handle it I think their personalities clash so badly that they can't communicate at all, if either of them are feeling any type of way about it.
@@P4StalotI remember watching it in the moment and it was a tough one. I had anxiety on Gabbie's behalf with how Trisha was talking to her. I genuinely think Trisha was trying to get a reaction out of Gabbie and was getting upset that Gabbie wasn't yelling back at her. Gabbie was keeping a level tone the entire time despite being constantly talked over, and Trisha didn't know how to handle it. She's totally valid for not wanting to be associated as friends with Gabbie, but she refused to even listen to why Gabbie was under the impression they were. Once Gabbie realized the friendship was one sided then she switched from "we were friends" to "this is why I thought we were friends." Trisha got more manic.
@@eevesjunkyard I think you're right, and I think Trisha's bpd was triggered when she was fact checked. I feel like that was really clear with how calmed down she was after the break. She just needed space from her own brain, but she wasn't ready for that conversation.
“This is a delusion” had me floored. I am on the younger side so I wasn’t really involved in this drama when in came out, but this is crazy hearing Trish say this. Like can you get more text book gaslighting than that?
This actually healed me just a lil because I never saw Gabbie’s original video and the way Trisha was gaslighting her is the saammmeeee subtle way people gaslight me now. Fully confirmed they gaslight the shit out of me sometimes. This video is fucking wild, lovingggg the revisiting series you’re doing💜💜💜
Honestly might be a hot take this doesn’t make gabbi look bad. Im pretty proud she was able to stand up for herself in this situation. She handled herself really well knowing the truth not “her truth”. Trish tried to continue to convince her that was her reality ect. This is literally how my dad acts and its horrible living like this.
Your intro is always so comforting ugh it’s like sitting down and talking to a close friend. I work from home and I am a full-time college student so you keep me feeling like I always have someone in the room with me 💕 Getting ready to watch rn^-^
My boyfriend said “if there’s anyone worse than Gabbie, it’s Trisha” like this was the only one of her “exposing videos” that I was like oh Gabbie’s side
You what is WILD about this situation. It started with the herpes thing where Gabbi told Jason private (false) info and her defence at the time was that her & Trisha were never friends so why would she go to Trish first. Then she flipped when it suited her narrative (a fave word of Gabbies) to say her and Trish had years long friendship. Like girl, pick a lane.
i think it’s pretty cool how as a community of muckers we’ve gotten to have a crash course in revisiting, re evaluating, and admitting changed opinions. not only do i eat it up but also is so so cool
if trisha just straight up said that she was just being chill with her in the moment and she didn’t really fuck with her on the same level as gabbie then it wouldn’t be so bad in trisha’s part but all she’s doing is blatantly lying ahhahahahhaha
SERIOUSLY!!! Like just say “ah shit i didn’t really see us as that close of friends I talk about that stuff with everybody, no hard feelings tho!” And that would’ve been perfectly fine and normal 😭
It’s so intriguing to see how mental health affects the minds ability to process, recall and perceive. Just shows how differently we all can experience the same events in such different ways and none of them are ever quite wrong if the person truly believes it.
I think she's just super triggered because someone she liked and opened up to spread lies about her having an std. In her upset she lied about their friendship status in an attempt to distance herself or hurt gabbie. Then she was caught in the lie and couldn't get out
ugh this is giving me frenemies 39th episode vibes TRISHA IS SO IMMATURE OMMMMMG it's like a child who's found eating ice cream at 3 am, her mum yells at him and he'll do anything to deny it 😭
In this instance, Gabbie was in the right imo. Trisha was REALLY trying to gaslight her. This whole "we were friends. No we weren't" thing was crazy. I get Gabbie wanted to prove that the way Trisha was painting her out to be crazy and that they "never really talked much" was wrong... But the need to constantly try to prove that they were in fact friends ultimately made Gabbie look crazy and obsessed anyway. 😭 I feel like she put too much energy into it (tho I don't blame her if Trisha was also constantly making jabs at her).
For trisha to yell at a mentally ill person “you’re delusional, this isnt real, this is a delusion. This didnt happen its your delusion” repeatedly is actually vile. Especially when you consider in this same podcast, gabbie confided in trisha about gabbies mother having mental health issues, and she was scared of being “crazy” like her mom. My pity for Gabbie is very few and far in-between, but Trisha was an absolute monster to her and gaslighted her this entire podcast. Its honestly sad to see, and to think that everybody sided with trisha during this… lowkey no wonder gabbie lost her fucking mind
With BPD, you can be defensively delusional at times (and it does really suck to deal with that later) so I think that plays a big part in this. I think Tricia is feeling personally attacked by things that don't exist (they do exist, though) because her (defensive) selective memory is so strong at this point. I could be wrong! But I do understand that mental struggle, the emotional battle.
@dd4850I think she’s shared that she’s been dx with BPD by a professional. Either way, it seems like a pretty accurate description for her and she’s found it helpful in order to get treatment and improve her relationships since about 2020/2021
My mother has BPD and very selective memory as well just like Trisha. In the mind of someone with BPD they remember an altered version of events and it’s frustrating arguing the truth with someone who has a broken mind.
@@cheee138 I don't remember her ever saying she was diagnosed with it only that she was told she had traits of it, which is not being diagnosed with it.
In fairness Trisha was gaslighting gabby the entire time but I feel like that probably also did happen a lot because it was in a podcast setting like I have no idea why this was made, nevermind posted.
yessss adam PLS keep doing these revisiting videos honestly i can’t get enough and id rather watch these type of vids than the other stuff that’s on youtube now
the break was so weird… like i couldn’t just shut off my feelings if i was feeling mad and disrespected and was being so stubborn about it….. lol oml Trisha was so defensive and agressive. Makes her look guilty. Gabbie seemed so condescending at times too, i could also understand why inner trish came out to fight lol.
I think Trisha was looking for a fight here and was intentionally trying to provoke Gabbie into a yelling match. She seemed to be getting upset that Gabbie wasn't giving her the same energy back and kept a level tone the whole time. She wasn't reactive like Trisha wanted. I remember watching this in the moment and Trisha definitely came off as a mean girl who didn't want to associate with Gabbie, which is completely fine. The problem here is that Gabbie was under the impression they were friends because of how Trish interacted with her both privately and publicly, then as Gabbie tried explaining why she had that impression Trisha just kept talking over and gaslighting her. "If that's what you want to believe" 🙄 girl, you're talking to the queen of receipts. Gabbie is a lot of things that I can't stand, but in this instance I really felt for her. It's hard to have a productive conversation with someone who isn't even letting you complete a full sentence. She also kept her cool and a level tone a hell of a lot longer than I would have been able to, so I have to give props for that.
I cant imagine trying to reconcile with someone or discuss personal problems on a podcast for everyone to see. I dont even like watching people fight as it. Then again, im so broke, id probably do it to so who am i to judge 😅
I remember that IG story Gabbie put up about telling your friend their partner has an STI. I'm pretty sure she put up a poll about if she was wrong or not and I answered yes that she's wrong or no that she should allow the partner to bring it up/tell the person that someone else is talking about their sexual health. Crazy times for real.
Everyone seems to forget “tp” said it herself. She claimed to have herpes, it was in a couple of videos that are now deleted. One was with Sean vander whatever. They were drunk or had been drinking wine, and the other was in a video where she kicked out that a-cappella singer Ari.
Adam can you please do more of worlds strictest parents, I loved your videos on them, especially when you were doing the British accents I could not stop laughing 😂🫶🏼
Yes this is still a more intelligent conversation than the “presidential” debates. I remember when those were actually fun to watch - now it’s just painful and tragic
I’ve always thought it was very weird that Trisha would get mad at Gabbie for “exposing her sexual health” when Trisha already did that. At the time Trisha had made multiple videos where she talked about having STDS. Idk I felt that Gabbie was right to be concerned..
i think that was the point though. trisha came out and spoke abt her OWN history with STDs. what gabbie did was run to her audience on instagram and poll them on whether she was right in speaking to jason abt a rumor she had / discouraging him from sleeping with trish based on said rumor. and i think trisha had valid reasons to be upset abt that. bc it’s one thing to talk to your friend and express concern, but it’s another thing to do that and THEN go to instagram and proactively ask your audience if you’re in the right. gabbie didn’t NEED to make that interaction public, but she did bc she wanted her audience’s validation that she was a ‘kind, caring’ person & friend.
Its not weird because Trisha can share her own sexual health, being concerned doesn't mean going to other people and telling them and not going to the person they're concerned about
@jasmynee so if your friend knew that the person you’re sleeping with might possibly have an incurable STD (according to your sexual partner’s best friend), you wouldn’t be mad if they did not warn you?! Huh?!
Thanks for covering all these topics. I get so lost with all the lure... I was living under a rock during these times and whenever these things come up, trying to find content that summarises it all is not an easy feat. 😁
Great video! You were neutral about both parties but also called out shit and gave credit where credit was due. Not like it matters, but I totally agreed with your commentary👏 well done! 🥳
I never watched any of this before, I think gabby came across calm, reasonable, strong, and honest. She looked good to me, Trisha seemed spiteful, defensive, cruel and disingenuous, one seemed to seek resolution and the other was dismissive, combative and rude...
The Gabbie/Joey and Escape The Night season 4 situation - interesting to discuss and revisit of course. But change opinion? This isn't really like Gabbie's story VS Joey's story where you chose side. It's Gabbie's accusations VS facts, receipts and proofs of what actually happened. She caused a lot of problems for a lot of people involved in a big film production. I wish her the best and hope she's doing better now.
at a brief glance, it looks like the videos missing from the playlist are the ones that gabbie filmed while she was uploading the series (one specifically about angelika oles, and ‘about the 3 hour phone call’)
this is so unhinged and I can’t believe they did this but I WISH that every RUclipsr drama ended w a podcast where they all fight it out 😭 I am so nosy and I would absolutely watch it. I need this style of video w Shane/jeffery/tati/james 😭 I need to be in their business so bad LMAOO
Idk, I think Trisha is within their right to reframe the relationship they had with Gabbie as not really being that close. I might share something about my life to someone, I might admire something about someone’s online presence or activities, but that may not mean I call them a friend in any way. Many friendships end up not working out for me because the other person thinks we’re way closer than we really are, just because they get many of their emotional needs met by me, but I’m not feeling the same way back. So I actually relate to Trisha. Yeah she’s being stubborn, but she also shouldn’t have had her STI status disclosed. That’s so fucked up. Idk, if Trisha saying that they’re “obsessed” with Gabbie’s podcast is going to be scrutinized, I just wanted to offer my critique about calling either of them “batshit” or “crazy.”
@@bioluminescentcoffee totally but trisha literally called her a friend and said that they hung out on numerous occasions. trisha’s actions show she was lying abt the relationship rather than just reframing it in her own mind. sure she could’ve distanced herself from gabbie and felt less close but she was saying gabbie was obsessed w her and could’ve never even been considered to be her friend which was clearly not the case
Gabbie ABSOLUTELY is better here. She is handling the DIRECT confrontation head on, in a normal tone, calling out when Trish is lying to her. I would feel upset if someone who CLEARLY portrayed themselves as my friend then did this to me. Idk why you feel like Gabbie looks bad in this one at ALL
I know this is probably an unpopular opinion but I truly think Gabbie Hannah was done wrong by the internet. I actually think she's talented and I hated when it became cool to hate her.
I will agree that there were situations where Gabbie caught a lot of flak for no reason (for example, the e-girls situation) and that Gabbie is a pretty decent songwriter and singer but she also treated people so horribly and that will always overshadow her good qualities until she truly makes amends with those she hurt
wow this made me feel so sad for gabbie, trisha gaslit her the whole time and to me, was starting to talk rudely to her. and then after gabbie still said she liked her, and wanted to move to a more positive ending. i have to give gabbie credit for keeping her cool and staying level headed during this
wow trisha is so bad. soooooooooooooooo narcissistic. you can tell that gabbie has done a lot of therapy by the way that she handles all this. good on her
I never even seen that video of them before but that had to of been the most calm arguing I’ve ever seen lol. That’s what happens when you out two crazy delusional people in the same room.
Lol at Trisha’s stubbornness. I think most people are stubborn though. I’m not really as much anymore. I’ve realized that just agreeing with people shocks and disarms. She should have just said “yes, this was about you” lol.
Trisha def comes out worse in this video, but when considering the context of the whole thing, it’s one of Gabbie’s more useless arguments. “We were friends at one point,” sure, maybe they were friendly acquaintances, or even friends, but clearly not that close, and once the herpes thing happened (which is so stigmatizing and wrong, and also potentially damaging to Trisha’s career as a sex worker), it’s kind of like, who cares? She obviously doesn’t like you now! And I think Gabbie wants to try and convince people that they actually like her and she behaves in a way that is justifiable, when the reality is, neither of them do. I think Trisha is more willing to admit that? But I think getting defensive is silly. Maybe Trisha’s current feelings toward Gabbie made them feel like, “I never liked her!” even if they technically did, but she could have easily said, “Yeah, we were friends/friendly, but then you told my then-boyfriend I have herpes when I don’t and I don’t fuck with that or you anymore.” That to me is a completely valid response.
i’m actually so glad gabbie came with the receipts, she gagged her hard. gabbie may struggle a lot and suck in many ways but it’s important she stood up for herself. trish was gaslighted hard
See I was just starting to lowkey like Trisha again but after watching this shi all over again I realized why I still can’t stand Trisha🤣😭🤦🏽♀️I’ve never seen so many receipts in one video than I have this one oh my😭🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Yeah with two strong headed women talking to each other that both has to have the last word. Neither one knows when to stop talking. In past Trisha always forgot what she told anyone plus she kept telling people she wanted to collaborate with them and never showed up when they went out to California to met up she never showed or answered her phone. Trisha acted like none of that ever happened, when it did.
The fact that she had so much more to say after the Jessie video and stopped her series because of the backlash (rightly given) kinda makes me sad. I wanted to know what else she had to drop on people who actually deserved it.
The problem is that instead of Trisha just saying she didn’t feel the same about the relationship she tried to portray it to herself gabbie and the public as these things never happened and/or pretended or genuinely deluded herself into thinking she was speaking factually. Gabbie actually does seem to be trying to stick to logic and speaks matter of fact and maintains a level head which is great but also feels the need to prove they have a certain relationship strictly based on texts and conversation rather than just sticking to the fact that those things happened. A lot of influencers talk to / hype up others on socials but behind the scenes do not consider this to be a real friendship just a public one.
I don't know.... I think youtuber Fat Sajak's views on this were more what Trisha's intentions actually are. Gabby has receipts but Trisha was just trying to be nice and Gabby was trying to force a friendship that was never really there. It is awkward but Gabby still insane af. And I don't think Trisha is lying as much as misremembering because she didn't have anything invested in this or really care the way that Gabby obsessed.
THE WAY THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM?? the fact that this happened after trisha’s “why i don’t trust gabbie” video… why would they even agree to do this podcast
I dislike both these women, now how can people like T. Paytas is beyond all reason. The only thing I can give her is the Colleen photos thing. That’s it. She’s a bad person on camera, imagine with the camera off.
I’m always impressed with her ability to come back. I think it’s that people end up doing her wrong and she can use that as a way to leverage victimhood and redemption arc - this last time it was Colleen who gave her the redemption arc.
Omg you should cover the time Trisha beat Moses then accidently admitted to it on Frenemies. Also when Jason Nash's ex talked about how he was physically abused by here too!
i was seriously debating spamming yr socials asking for this. wow. we love manifestation.
Tbh I was mentally manifesting too, team effort from the muckers 🫶🫶
@@artcowboy muckers are so psychic & powerful 🥰
somehow colleen is always connected to all these people/dramas even if her name is just mentioned 😭💀
I felt the side eye so hard. She's everywhere. 😭😭😭😭
Shane too!!!!
Birds of a feather flock together 😂
@@alysandraborden9265 does that mean similar people stay together?
@@Yuqideqiko yes. Pigeons group together, gross humans group together
I can take Gabbie's side when it comes to Trisha or The Vlog Squad, but NOT with Jessi. She went way too far in that situation.
Agreed
agreed that was so vile
Completely agree.
True.
Honestly, I don't care what anyone says, I take her side on the Daniel and Joey situation. They have always rub me the wrong way.
i miss when gabbie was the gabbie show and just told the most unhinged stories
This!
Seriously, bring back lying for views
i think multiple of her storytimes got proven false
I miss when I believed them
@@quin4824true but how she told them were so entertaining 😭😭 that's why I was a fan of Tana in the 2016-2017 era bc it was so funny how she was telling them despite having her stalker story get debunked and everything
“I said it was a rumor because it was, you don’t have herpes, right?” Was soooooo nasty of Gabby
no literally 😭
@@AdamMcIntyrewhat’s most cringe about the entire argument is Trish very easily could have said, “whenever I said anything to you for however long, I was not under the impression that we were friends. That’s why I say that me and you aren’t friends. It wasn’t malicious, it’s truly how I perceived it.” Gabby is trying to convince Trish that they were friends and Trish is refusing to.
Yesss but at the same time Trish has made her s life things public. If there are any super fans they will remember (I think it may be deleted now). It was her on her balcony I think with her mom during a q&a and she said she was + for things. It was YEARSSS ago but someone else has to remember this too!
@@chy6660 it doesn't matter how public someone's life is and if they chose to make information public. that's their choice. it is NOBODY ELSE'S choice to make someone else's information public. that's fucked up
@@romanrodriguez3959It started that way, yes. Then as Trish kept saying Gabbie didn't mean anything to her she then was trying to tell Trish "okay, so x, y, z examples are why I was under the impression that we were friends. I didn't know the feeling wasn't mutual." But Trisha kept talking over her the whole time and wasn't letting her even finish a full sentence.
I don't stand behind Gabbie in the slightest, but in this situation she was definitely justified to her feelings.
I like how all the drama channels at the time never brought up how Shane broke these two apart bc HE started the rumor 💀💀💀
Who was supposedly Trisha’s BEST friend at the time…
I dont think that absolves gabbie from *spreading it* especially to someone like David Dobrik who was allegedly there when Gabbie told Jason that.
@@NoTimeToExplain- you’re right. You have a point. I guess trish here just irritates me more because shes blatantly ignoring facts, disregarding their interactions, and gaslighting her. Gabbie isn’t innocent but…at least shes being a bit more logical here
@@NoTimeToExplain-well Gabbie would’ve felt guilty if she didn’t tell her best friend about the heroes thing if he caught it. She’s damned if she does damned if she doesnt
This is what I imagine the unreleased frenemies episode sounds like
lol so true.
I felt like i was in a restaurant listening in to a couple on the verge of divorce fight but not bothering to be quiet 😬😬
what’s CRAZY is that the way Trisha is gaslighting Gabbie is the same way she accused Ethan of speaking to her in the last episode of frenemies that ended the show…. Couldn’t handle her own heat!
Trisha was SO gaslighting Gabbie here. Calling a spade a spade. So cringe to watch 😬😬😬
EXACTLY. This is painful.
I was coming to see who called the gaslighting, maybe Gabbie interpreted their interactions as more than they were but if you have a conversation with someone and hear them later reference that exact situation/ phrasing most people would logically think oh she’s talking about me. Trisha saying she’s crazy for that is kind of wild that doesn’t make you paranoid the dots literally connect and she got angry at her for connecting them 😒 Trisha does the same thing to this day all the time connecting dots like “that persons throwing shade”🙃
It’s legit stressful to hear 😂
Her "okay Gabby what did I say" was so crazy lol
Makes Trisha look super bad but also Gabbie talking about her possible state of health is crazy
Ngl Gabbie is eating and Trisha is hardcore gaslighting in this
trisha was gaslighting DOWN on this podcast 😭
the second hand embarrassment I'm getting from this interview is driving me crazy like I can not finish this😭
Literally, I’m gonna have to watch it in parts because YIKES 😭☠️ I got 15 minutes in and I want to crawl out of my skin lmfaooo
Cool I'm gonna love it then
this was hella awkward, i couldnt even watch this original one. thanks for making it digestable Adam (:
Ugh yeah. I really wanted to know what was up, but I couldn't handle it
I think their personalities clash so badly that they can't communicate at all, if either of them are feeling any type of way about it.
@@P4StalotI remember watching it in the moment and it was a tough one. I had anxiety on Gabbie's behalf with how Trisha was talking to her.
I genuinely think Trisha was trying to get a reaction out of Gabbie and was getting upset that Gabbie wasn't yelling back at her. Gabbie was keeping a level tone the entire time despite being constantly talked over, and Trisha didn't know how to handle it. She's totally valid for not wanting to be associated as friends with Gabbie, but she refused to even listen to why Gabbie was under the impression they were. Once Gabbie realized the friendship was one sided then she switched from "we were friends" to "this is why I thought we were friends." Trisha got more manic.
@@eevesjunkyard I think you're right, and I think Trisha's bpd was triggered when she was fact checked.
I feel like that was really clear with how calmed down she was after the break. She just needed space from her own brain, but she wasn't ready for that conversation.
“This is a delusion” had me floored. I am on the younger side so I wasn’t really involved in this drama when in came out, but this is crazy hearing Trish say this. Like can you get more text book gaslighting than that?
This actually healed me just a lil because I never saw Gabbie’s original video and the way Trisha was gaslighting her is the saammmeeee subtle way people gaslight me now. Fully confirmed they gaslight the shit out of me sometimes. This video is fucking wild, lovingggg the revisiting series you’re doing💜💜💜
I want Adam to cover everything RUclips 😭 it's giving entertainment for life.
agree 🎉
Same
Umm yes please!
Honestly might be a hot take this doesn’t make gabbi look bad. Im pretty proud she was able to stand up for herself in this situation. She handled herself really well knowing the truth not “her truth”. Trish tried to continue to convince her that was her reality ect. This is literally how my dad acts and its horrible living like this.
I agree tbh 💯
I agree I’m surprised he said Gabbie looks bad bc I genuinely can’t see how anything in this clip makes her seem negative or look poorly
Your intro is always so comforting ugh it’s like sitting down and talking to a close friend. I work from home and I am a full-time college student so you keep me feeling like I always have someone in the room with me 💕
Getting ready to watch rn^-^
My boyfriend said “if there’s anyone worse than Gabbie, it’s Trisha” like this was the only one of her “exposing videos” that I was like oh Gabbie’s side
You what is WILD about this situation. It started with the herpes thing where Gabbi told Jason private (false) info and her defence at the time was that her & Trisha were never friends so why would she go to Trish first. Then she flipped when it suited her narrative (a fave word of Gabbies) to say her and Trish had years long friendship. Like girl, pick a lane.
i think it’s pretty cool how as a community of muckers we’ve gotten to have a crash course in revisiting, re evaluating, and admitting changed opinions. not only do i eat it up but also is so so cool
if trisha just straight up said that she was just being chill with her in the moment and she didn’t really fuck with her on the same level as gabbie then it wouldn’t be so bad in trisha’s part but all she’s doing is blatantly lying ahhahahahhaha
SERIOUSLY!!! Like just say “ah shit i didn’t really see us as that close of friends I talk about that stuff with everybody, no hard feelings tho!” And that would’ve been perfectly fine and normal 😭
The way Trisha used to talk down to and manipulate people in conversations like this is craaazy
It’s so intriguing to see how mental health affects the minds ability to process, recall and perceive. Just shows how differently we all can experience the same events in such different ways and none of them are ever quite wrong if the person truly believes it.
No….they’re sincere but categorically wrong. It’s called “delusion” and “black and white thinking.”
I think she's just super triggered because someone she liked and opened up to spread lies about her having an std. In her upset she lied about their friendship status in an attempt to distance herself or hurt gabbie. Then she was caught in the lie and couldn't get out
if only gabbie kept this same energy with jessie lmao
ugh this is giving me frenemies 39th episode vibes TRISHA IS SO IMMATURE OMMMMMG it's like a child who's found eating ice cream at 3 am, her mum yells at him and he'll do anything to deny it 😭
In this instance, Gabbie was in the right imo. Trisha was REALLY trying to gaslight her.
This whole "we were friends. No we weren't" thing was crazy. I get Gabbie wanted to prove that the way Trisha was painting her out to be crazy and that they "never really talked much" was wrong... But the need to constantly try to prove that they were in fact friends ultimately made Gabbie look crazy and obsessed anyway. 😭 I feel like she put too much energy into it (tho I don't blame her if Trisha was also constantly making jabs at her).
I remember calling the manipulation way back and nobody agreed. Lolol
For trisha to yell at a mentally ill person “you’re delusional, this isnt real, this is a delusion. This didnt happen its your delusion” repeatedly is actually vile. Especially when you consider in this same podcast, gabbie confided in trisha about gabbies mother having mental health issues, and she was scared of being “crazy” like her mom.
My pity for Gabbie is very few and far in-between, but Trisha was an absolute monster to her and gaslighted her this entire podcast. Its honestly sad to see, and to think that everybody sided with trisha during this… lowkey no wonder gabbie lost her fucking mind
With BPD, you can be defensively delusional at times (and it does really suck to deal with that later) so I think that plays a big part in this.
I think Tricia is feeling personally attacked by things that don't exist (they do exist, though) because her (defensive) selective memory is so strong at this point.
I could be wrong! But I do understand that mental struggle, the emotional battle.
@dd4850 really? I thought she was medicated now.
@dd4850I think she’s shared that she’s been dx with BPD by a professional. Either way, it seems like a pretty accurate description for her and she’s found it helpful in order to get treatment and improve her relationships since about 2020/2021
My mother has BPD and very selective memory as well just like Trisha. In the mind of someone with BPD they remember an altered version of events and it’s frustrating arguing the truth with someone who has a broken mind.
@@cheee138 I don't remember her ever saying she was diagnosed with it only that she was told she had traits of it, which is not being diagnosed with it.
I have bpd but also like..im not a manipulative gaslighter
I’m so happy for this. I was living when Gabbie dropped this at the time.
In fairness Trisha was gaslighting gabby the entire time but I feel like that probably also did happen a lot because it was in a podcast setting like I have no idea why this was made, nevermind posted.
yessss adam PLS keep doing these revisiting videos honestly i can’t get enough and id rather watch these type of vids than the other stuff that’s on youtube now
I remember when this dropped and I couldn’t get through 10 minutes of it. This was so painfully awkward to listen to for the first time😭
the break was so weird… like i couldn’t just shut off my feelings if i was feeling mad and disrespected and was being so stubborn about it….. lol oml
Trisha was so defensive and agressive. Makes her look guilty. Gabbie seemed so condescending at times too, i could also understand why inner trish came out to fight lol.
I think Trisha was looking for a fight here and was intentionally trying to provoke Gabbie into a yelling match. She seemed to be getting upset that Gabbie wasn't giving her the same energy back and kept a level tone the whole time. She wasn't reactive like Trisha wanted.
I remember watching this in the moment and Trisha definitely came off as a mean girl who didn't want to associate with Gabbie, which is completely fine. The problem here is that Gabbie was under the impression they were friends because of how Trish interacted with her both privately and publicly, then as Gabbie tried explaining why she had that impression Trisha just kept talking over and gaslighting her. "If that's what you want to believe" 🙄 girl, you're talking to the queen of receipts.
Gabbie is a lot of things that I can't stand, but in this instance I really felt for her. It's hard to have a productive conversation with someone who isn't even letting you complete a full sentence. She also kept her cool and a level tone a hell of a lot longer than I would have been able to, so I have to give props for that.
I cant imagine trying to reconcile with someone or discuss personal problems on a podcast for everyone to see. I dont even like watching people fight as it. Then again, im so broke, id probably do it to so who am i to judge 😅
I’m sorry but the gaslighting Trish is doing is insaaaaaaaaaaaane. Like. You think you fell out of a coconut tree trisha?
I remember that IG story Gabbie put up about telling your friend their partner has an STI.
I'm pretty sure she put up a poll about if she was wrong or not and I answered yes that she's wrong or no that she should allow the partner to bring it up/tell the person that someone else is talking about their sexual health.
Crazy times for real.
Right I remember seeing some bs going on and checking her story like what is she ranting about and now we have to deal with this
Everyone seems to forget “tp” said it herself. She claimed to have herpes, it was in a couple of videos that are now deleted. One was with Sean vander whatever. They were drunk or had been drinking wine, and the other was in a video where she kicked out that a-cappella singer Ari.
Adam can you please do more of worlds strictest parents, I loved your videos on them, especially when you were doing the British accents I could not stop laughing 😂🫶🏼
Yesss I loved the videos he did of world strictest parents!
IM SO HAPPY YOU COVERED THIS ADAM
I GASPED i was all over this at the time lmao 💀
I’ve listened to you so much in my pregnancy that my baby hears your voice and falls asleep ❤️
Your videos are comforting. Especially with what is going on in my country (the states).
I heart you
Yes this is still a more intelligent conversation than the “presidential” debates. I remember when those were actually fun to watch - now it’s just painful and tragic
I’ve always thought it was very weird that Trisha would get mad at Gabbie for “exposing her sexual health” when Trisha already did that. At the time Trisha had made multiple videos where she talked about having STDS. Idk I felt that Gabbie was right to be concerned..
i think that was the point though. trisha came out and spoke abt her OWN history with STDs. what gabbie did was run to her audience on instagram and poll them on whether she was right in speaking to jason abt a rumor she had / discouraging him from sleeping with trish based on said rumor. and i think trisha had valid reasons to be upset abt that. bc it’s one thing to talk to your friend and express concern, but it’s another thing to do that and THEN go to instagram and proactively ask your audience if you’re in the right. gabbie didn’t NEED to make that interaction public, but she did bc she wanted her audience’s validation that she was a ‘kind, caring’ person & friend.
@@jasmyneeee Yeah I have nothing to add on, I agree with everything you said
Its not weird because Trisha can share her own sexual health, being concerned doesn't mean going to other people and telling them and not going to the person they're concerned about
@jasmynee so if your friend knew that the person you’re sleeping with might possibly have an incurable STD (according to your sexual partner’s best friend), you wouldn’t be mad if they did not warn you?! Huh?!
@@basicallyno1722yeah, warn your friend but making stories about it on instagram? You think that’s okay?
Thanks for covering all these topics. I get so lost with all the lure... I was living under a rock during these times and whenever these things come up, trying to find content that summarises it all is not an easy feat. 😁
Trisha is severely gaslighting Gabbie in this podcast. It's hard to watch.
Great video! You were neutral about both parties but also called out shit and gave credit where credit was due. Not like it matters, but I totally agreed with your commentary👏 well done! 🥳
I never watched any of this before, I think gabby came across calm, reasonable, strong, and honest. She looked good to me, Trisha seemed spiteful, defensive, cruel and disingenuous, one seemed to seek resolution and the other was dismissive, combative and rude...
The Gabbie/Joey and Escape The Night season 4 situation - interesting to discuss and revisit of course. But change opinion? This isn't really like Gabbie's story VS Joey's story where you chose side. It's Gabbie's accusations VS facts, receipts and proofs of what actually happened. She caused a lot of problems for a lot of people involved in a big film production. I wish her the best and hope she's doing better now.
at a brief glance, it looks like the videos missing from the playlist are the ones that gabbie filmed while she was uploading the series (one specifically about angelika oles, and ‘about the 3 hour phone call’)
this drama was insane and I’m so excited for your take ☺️
this is so unhinged and I can’t believe they did this but I WISH that every RUclipsr drama ended w a podcast where they all fight it out 😭 I am so nosy and I would absolutely watch it. I need this style of video w Shane/jeffery/tati/james 😭 I need to be in their business so bad LMAOO
I actually hate the way Trisha says “okay”
Idk, I think Trisha is within their right to reframe the relationship they had with Gabbie as not really being that close. I might share something about my life to someone, I might admire something about someone’s online presence or activities, but that may not mean I call them a friend in any way. Many friendships end up not working out for me because the other person thinks we’re way closer than we really are, just because they get many of their emotional needs met by me, but I’m not feeling the same way back. So I actually relate to Trisha. Yeah she’s being stubborn, but she also shouldn’t have had her STI status disclosed. That’s so fucked up. Idk, if Trisha saying that they’re “obsessed” with Gabbie’s podcast is going to be scrutinized, I just wanted to offer my critique about calling either of them “batshit” or “crazy.”
Gabbie never said they were that close tho she just said they were friends. not best friends not great friends just friends
@@linmanuel just bc someone considers someone a friend (of any level of closeness) doesn't mean it's inherently mutual felt by both parties
@@bioluminescentcoffee totally but trisha literally called her a friend and said that they hung out on numerous occasions. trisha’s actions show she was lying abt the relationship rather than just reframing it in her own mind. sure she could’ve distanced herself from gabbie and felt less close but she was saying gabbie was obsessed w her and could’ve never even been considered to be her friend which was clearly not the case
I can’t even express how excited I am for this, I’ve been waiting so long for the Gabbie Hanna series review, Adam is eating and we are being fed
I’ve been commuting to work for 45 minutes and I appreciate your uploads so much
JUST REALISED THERE'S NOW TWO VIDS I CAN WATCH TONIGHT OMG 💃💃💃
3 drinks in and Adam uploads again, time to switch to tea! (Also cos I’m heading to bed lmao).
Gabbie ABSOLUTELY is better here. She is handling the DIRECT confrontation head on, in a normal tone, calling out when Trish is lying to her. I would feel upset if someone who CLEARLY portrayed themselves as my friend then did this to me. Idk why you feel like Gabbie looks bad in this one at ALL
I have been waiting for you to cover this series! Huge rewatch potential
I know this is probably an unpopular opinion but I truly think Gabbie Hannah was done wrong by the internet. I actually think she's talented and I hated when it became cool to hate her.
I agree, always those had a good voice. But I'm no musician...lol
I will agree that there were situations where Gabbie caught a lot of flak for no reason (for example, the e-girls situation) and that Gabbie is a pretty decent songwriter and singer but she also treated people so horribly and that will always overshadow her good qualities until she truly makes amends with those she hurt
Gabby ATE
She’s not a good person…. But dang she clocked Trisha HARD
the way i just recently watched this re-uploaded and now you’re revisiting this oml-
wow this made me feel so sad for gabbie, trisha gaslit her the whole time and to me, was starting to talk rudely to her. and then after gabbie still said she liked her, and wanted to move to a more positive ending. i have to give gabbie credit for keeping her cool and staying level headed during this
I so excited to revisit all this! I remember seeing some of it happen in real time.
wow trisha is so bad. soooooooooooooooo narcissistic. you can tell that gabbie has done a lot of therapy by the way that she handles all this. good on her
Genuinely why did they do this lmao
I never even seen that video of them before but that had to of been the most calm arguing I’ve ever seen lol. That’s what happens when you out two crazy delusional people in the same room.
Fine gaslighting skills from Trisha here. Even when being called out on it. Gabbie holds her own really well here.
Yes! I love all these throwbacks
I’ve had no idea whats been going on before i start each vid but I love it all, thank you adam 😌 absolutely adore you dear ❤
Lol at Trisha’s stubbornness. I think most people are stubborn though. I’m not really as much anymore. I’ve realized that just agreeing with people shocks and disarms. She should have just said “yes, this was about you” lol.
I think there was something more going on in her head than just your basic stubbornness lol
Like Gabbie is being so calm and respectful and honest, gotta hand it to her 👏
The way I think CB was intertwined in this someway somehow and loved every minute of it.
she HAD to be
I feel so sorry for Trisha’s children 💀
The whole internet gaslit the fuck out of Gabbie over this shit with Trisha it makes me so mad revisiting this.
Trisha def comes out worse in this video, but when considering the context of the whole thing, it’s one of Gabbie’s more useless arguments. “We were friends at one point,” sure, maybe they were friendly acquaintances, or even friends, but clearly not that close, and once the herpes thing happened (which is so stigmatizing and wrong, and also potentially damaging to Trisha’s career as a sex worker), it’s kind of like, who cares? She obviously doesn’t like you now! And I think Gabbie wants to try and convince people that they actually like her and she behaves in a way that is justifiable, when the reality is, neither of them do. I think Trisha is more willing to admit that? But I think getting defensive is silly. Maybe Trisha’s current feelings toward Gabbie made them feel like, “I never liked her!” even if they technically did, but she could have easily said, “Yeah, we were friends/friendly, but then you told my then-boyfriend I have herpes when I don’t and I don’t fuck with that or you anymore.” That to me is a completely valid response.
i’m actually so glad gabbie came with the receipts, she gagged her hard. gabbie may struggle a lot and suck in many ways but it’s important she stood up for herself. trish was gaslighted hard
"agree to disagree" is not gaslighting. She said "I respect you but I don't remember it that way." Not gaslighting.
Such a captivating upload.
See I was just starting to lowkey like Trisha again but after watching this shi all over again I realized why I still can’t stand Trisha🤣😭🤦🏽♀️I’ve never seen so many receipts in one video than I have this one oh my😭🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Yeah with two strong headed women talking to each other that both has to have the last word. Neither one knows when to stop talking. In past Trisha always forgot what she told anyone plus she kept telling people she wanted to collaborate with them and never showed up when they went out to California to met up she never showed or answered her phone. Trisha acted like none of that ever happened, when it did.
The fact that she had so much more to say after the Jessie video and stopped her series because of the backlash (rightly given) kinda makes me sad. I wanted to know what else she had to drop on people who actually deserved it.
why do they have mics but then it sounds like it was recorded in a bathroom on an iphone 4
Ugh it still so uncomfortable to listen to all these years later. I want a rematch!
“The sun is up and it’s only 5:28”
Just wait until you come to Denmark 🤣
The problem is that instead of Trisha just saying she didn’t feel the same about the relationship she tried to portray it to herself gabbie and the public as these things never happened and/or pretended or genuinely deluded herself into thinking she was speaking factually. Gabbie actually does seem to be trying to stick to logic and speaks matter of fact and maintains a level head which is great but also feels the need to prove they have a certain relationship strictly based on texts and conversation rather than just sticking to the fact that those things happened. A lot of influencers talk to / hype up others on socials but behind the scenes do not consider this to be a real friendship just a public one.
This is so "girl, so confusing" coded tbh, i live
hi dear I have been watching you SO much lately! it's like spilling tea with my girlfriends 🐱
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this video makes gabbie look completely sane and that’s hard to do lmao. she was clocking trisha left and right
I don't know.... I think youtuber Fat Sajak's views on this were more what Trisha's intentions actually are. Gabby has receipts but Trisha was just trying to be nice and Gabby was trying to force a friendship that was never really there. It is awkward but Gabby still insane af. And I don't think Trisha is lying as much as misremembering because she didn't have anything invested in this or really care the way that Gabby obsessed.
YES I WAS HOPING YOUD DO THIS
THE WAY THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM?? the fact that this happened after trisha’s “why i don’t trust gabbie” video… why would they even agree to do this podcast
I dislike both these women, now how can people like T. Paytas is beyond all reason. The only thing I can give her is the Colleen photos thing. That’s it. She’s a bad person on camera, imagine with the camera off.
^ this! Yes, I don’t get how people like her and watch her videos. The only thing I feel bad about is the Colleen thing. That’s it
I’m always impressed with her ability to come back. I think it’s that people end up doing her wrong and she can use that as a way to leverage victimhood and redemption arc - this last time it was Colleen who gave her the redemption arc.
@@basicallyno1722 good point!
Oh Lord. Thank you Adam
Omg you should cover the time Trisha beat Moses then accidently admitted to it on Frenemies. Also when Jason Nash's ex talked about how he was physically abused by here too!