Girsan 1911 Chapter 3 - Did we fix it? MC1911S
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Girsan MC 1911 S part 3-
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I have the 9mm untouchable Girsan. Only came with 1 magazine but my Colt commander mags fit just fine.
I haven't had any issues feeding, ejecting or holding open after last round with fmj and hollow points. Trigger is a bit on the stiff side but still crisp on release. Not thrilled but not disappointed either. Will run another 200-300 rounds through it before I decide if I want to work on lightening the trigger pull.
I like to validate my guns with all combos of ammo and all magazine types for each pistol I own. I can say the 200 grain lawman feeds in none of my 1911s, ranging from a tuned and loved Colt (used in competition by previous owner, tuned, ramped etc. by my own gunsmith) to old-school Detonics (also ramped and polished by my gunsmith with 30 years experience). I will not buy that profile anymore. All my guns eat Federal 230g JHP and Remington Golden Saber 185g+p. 200 grain is just not food for a 1911, and I would not judge any 1911 by it's capacity to run it.
I watched all 3 videos and I think I'm gonna grab one. I don't plan on running HP in it. Here's to hoping I get a good gun.
Thanks for watching all 3. Just tune the extractor or send it back for warranty repair if it gives you any crap.
I need it to take whatever I feed it. Never had that problem with any gun before. I’ll keep you posted on the warranty repair.
How you liking it
I bought one of these paperweights and you might as well use it to drive nails like a hammer with it. Total pos. Needless to say it is NOT part of my collection. Junk.
Agree. I made the mistake of buying a Girsan officer model 1911. Had similar extractor-related failure to achieve battery problems with 3 different brands of ball ammo and two different brand mags, as well as some failures to eject. The slide would come back, still holding the spent case.
Absolutely total pile of dog shit wish I would have bought something else. Non stop issues with mine I want my money back just clambering a round and it goes off very dangerous junk gun and Girsan customer service really sucks bad they have yet to return one of my calls.
I've sent about 2k rounds through mine no jams or anything
Feed ramp profile and polish if you plan on keeping it. Or send it back and get another one...
I have one and I love it. I run a chip mccormick 10 rd mag and i haven't had any problems with it. At all
Ok I have the girsan mc1911 45 had same issues I replaced extractor changed to 20 lb spring then changed all other springs tuned trigger pretty much have a girsan with all Wilson guts works perfectly now fun build
1911s are notorious for being hollow point sensitive. Pick a quality load with a ball profile, use good mags and properly lubricate it. It is not a Glock. Also, DO NOT drop the slide on a 1911 with no round being fed from a mag. The chambering of a round reduces the jar as the slide goes into battery. With out that reduction, the jar can and will eventually cause the hammer notch to jump and slip off the sear notch. Once that starts to happen the edges off the hammer and sear notches will round off and your hammer will start following the slide down every time you chamber a round and you will need to replace them.
We tried different hollow points in one of the videos including some with very rounded profiles and it still hangs up. Know what's funny? We ran the same Federal HP's through a brand new $300 Tisas and it ate them all no problem. So does our Rock Island, Ruger, and Colt. There's just an issue with this Girsan because all the others have ran 100%, even with the same ammo.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Yep, the Girsans are a POS! If you do get it to work, the frame and slide are so soft, they can't hold a tune. I tried Wilson, EGW, Extractos, Ejecors, tuned ever way possible.
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Wouldn't trust my life with this 1911 that's for sure. Kind of surprised because Girsan seems to make some good guns. Maybe you just got a 🍋.
That was my thoughts, all 3 sentences.
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Not sure if mines a newer model,I'm new to guns and just learning since I got my permit recently but I believe mines a gen 2 and didnt have any problems what so ever.
My brother in law ran 200 rds with 0 trouble so maybe girsan recognized the problems and fixed them.
Even when I look at the slide stop and safety they look updated from the older 45 model.
I will take mine out after all this virus b.s is done and do a few videos.
I've got a old Steven's 20 ga and a older Remington 222 that I guess fbi used to use those as sniper rifles from what I've read and I've got a double star star 15 and wanna do some videos myself.
Idk, when did gen 2 start? He bought this new last year. And did you guys try 200 hollow points? Because that's what it jammed up on, not fmj's. If you post anything let me know and I'll check it out: I will judge your soul bwa ha ha ha (j/k). Thanks for watching.
@@BuckeyeBallistics I will have to ask which rounds he used,and I got mine used in new condition about 1 year ago,when I looked them up and started to compare to other stainless models I could tell the engraving and logo was in different spots and that's when I found out they made a gen 2.
I've got a lot to learn still but I definitely know how to be safe and to take it extremely serious.
@@BuckeyeBallistics I watched other videos and it seemed like the slide catch was a problem but mines super tight and has the indention to keep it from moving off of the spring loaded rod that holds the safety and the slide catch.
When I take mine I will be sure and load both clips with each type of rounds cause I definitely dont wanna be caught with my pants down and a jammed round in dangerous situations and will find out myself for sure.
Itll be a few months and I will go and make some.
Sometimes we only had 1 or 2 per box of 50 that would mess up, sometimes it was more like 10 per box. Even at 1 per box, that 1 could be the one that get's you killed if it jams up on you when you are fighting for your life. If you watch the other 2 videos of the gun you will see all the jams; there were a lot more. In part 1 we discovered it didn't like hollow points and jammed up on them. In part 2 I tried several different other hollow points and it still did it. So here in part 3 he had messed with it as mentioned, and while improved, still had issues as you saw. But it runs fmj's (regular ammo) just fine. He has since sold the gun which irritated me slightly because I wanted to work on it myself and never got too. Gorgeous gun...
i have the same alarm tone. I was wondering why mine was gong of at 3 in the morning lol
Cause it's time to wake up! 😅
Those hollow point cavities are deep, looks like you could fill'em with water and wash from it. Not really I know, but they are pretty damn big. Amazing they feed at all. Oh and you do control firing that 1911 rather well. Nicely done.
In part 2 we tried all kinds of hollow points including much more rounded ones with cavities half the diameter, and it still hung up. It may run those now that we tuned the extractor, it may not. I'll never know, because the owner sold the gun. All I know is I'm happy to own a Ruger 1911, because it eats everything. And thanks, but people mock me on here for flinching/anticipating recoil, so I thought I'd just go ahead and make fun of myself in the video. Hopefully some people will get a good laugh at that. I'm still trying to work on the anticipation thing. I'm a long time rifle shooter and only recently started shooting pistols, so it's part of what I still need to work on.
@@BuckeyeBallistics I have the same gun, after the first 100rds it shoots low just like yours and it hates critical duty ammo as well as most hollow points, did you ever fiqure out what causes the low shooting? The first 50 or so rounds i was hitting everything darn near dead on then it just started shooting lower and lower until it was shooting 6inches low or more. I still haven't had a malfunction with any 230fmj ammo but just about any plus p or hollow point it fouls up. I also have noticed you need the mags that are made for it, it hates other mags.
First guys grip is different on every trigger pull. 😂
Yup, that's my cameraman. It was his gun so I tried to give him some time in the video...
@@BuckeyeBallistics give him some help, not video time. 🤣
He's prior LEO so it would probably piss him off if I told him how to shoot lol. Also if you watched the whole video, I wasn't doing too great either that day (accuracy). We've both gotten better since this older video, but I'm still a little better than him 😁
@@BuckeyeBallistics say no more after you said prior LEO. Collectively, the worst group of shooters there is. Never practice, and once a year go qualify on the most generic course of fire. Now I understand the lack if fundamentals he is showing. 😊
obviously this gun dont like that ammo in 3 video,it's jams with same ammo, how suprising you guys didn't notice that :D
How surprising you didn't notice in the 2nd video then, since you watched it, that it jammed with various brands of hollow points...
Do you think it could have been just that pistol maybe? Like an issue with just THAT pistol? Or have you heard of other issues from others
Yeah I mean generally Girsan makes pretty decent products, so I think we just got one that was picky. We made two more videos of this gun an tuned the extractor a bit, which seemed to improve it, but it still needed a little more tweaking.
@@BuckeyeBallistics i watched all three and it kinda scared me into thinking I bought a shitty pistol but I mean it is a cheaper 1911 so hopefully mine does well.
Let me know how it does. And remember, we only had issues with hollow points.
Tons of others!
Try another brand of HPs, and stick with one brand of mags
You already watched the video where we tried multiple hp's, and the different mags were to try to see if it liked one more than another. My Ruger eats anything, Colt eats anything, RIA eats anything, and Tisas eats anything. It's just the gun dude- it was a lemon.
@Guns&Cars, so did you keep or get rid of this 1911?
It wasn't mine, he got rid of it. In my opinion the extractor just needed further tuning.
Are those +p maybe you should try +p only and if they are those maybe try the regular ammo
It was just this 1911. We ran these exact rounds through our other 1911's without any issues. Matter of fact we just shot another box of them through my Ruger and Colt last week and they all ran perfect. There was just an issue with this Girsan.
Guns&Cars so would you say it’s not wise to buy one of these firearms?
I mean it certainly left a bad taste in my mouth. I would say research it more and see if others had the same issue. But if you're just looking for an affordable and reliable 1911, then I would get a Rock Island. I reviewed mine on the channel, along with a Tisas, Ruger, and Colt. The Girsan is the only one that gave us any issues even though it was mid pack in the price range.
@@BuckeyeBallistics girsan is a turkish gin and turkish guns are designed for nato ammunition.. what grain where you running ? They usually suggest anything heavier than 124 for break in period
230 grain, and the hollow points were either 200 or 230. This is a .45 acp man; 124 grain is 9mm lol. Our Girsan Regard (9mm) eats anything we feed it though...
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Glad you like guns too cause there's alot of that on here lol.
I have the Girsan 1911c and it jammed on me at the range several times with the factory magazine and two Wilson combat magazines. I was shooting FMJ, this is the first time shooting it after purchasing. I’m a little disappointed with this because I was going to make it my carry pistol. Do you guys have any suggestions?
Yeah- if it's a new gun, send it in for warranty repair. If not, tune or replace the extractor claw with Wilson Combat if you were having the same kind of jams we were in these videos (I posted 3 about this gun).
Just curious. Did your gun get any better after break in or have you sent it in?
@@deere3321 it work fine once I got it back from the manufacture. They replace the extractor. However, if any gun ever fails on me I’m just hesitant to make it my carry gun. I carry the Sig P220 or the HK45.
Makes a good range gun.
Not with that sight being so far off 🤯
Use Kimber mags and use kimber springs in you good 💯
... And I don't understand why the both of you are tilting your heads down, and leaning your heads to the right.
I don't know, maybe just the way I shoot (can't speak for him). I was a rifle shooter for over a decade before I ever really started shooting pistols, so maybe that's why (because I'm used to resting my cheek on something when shooting). I think my head positioning has since changed some though if you were to compare more recent videos of me shooting pistols. I kinda just taught myself to shoot, no training or anything. People usually comment that my stance is wrong, I hold the gun wrong, etc. I don't really care though because I probably shoot better than them anyway (now). I'm decent on the pistol range with the right gun and I can shoot some of them 100 yards accurately as well. I have tried the "correct" methods and I shoot worse, so I have just stuck with what works for me.
@@BuckeyeBallistics Stick with what works for ya Guy! Most of the vid's on how to properly hold and shoot is for rapid fire. Which is not a precision type of shooting.
I too have a Girsan. Mine is commander in 9mm, as I wanted to try a 1911 in 9. My edc is a Les Baer 1911 TRS in .45. Love that gun. In many years of shooting it, never one single jam or failure to feed or eject. The Garson on the other hand can't get thru a mag without F'n up. GRRRRRR!
Far, changed the ejector, extractor, recoil spring, polished the ramp and it still isn't quite right. First issue was the recoil spring. Far over sprung, and worse, it was going into coil bind almost 3/8" before boing fully rearward. I just put a Knight Hawk Commander spring in it of lesser weight and it too was too long. It is trimmed now and will test in a few minutes on my private range. (Sure comes in handy being able to just walk out he back door and test). ;