Probability & Statistics (24 of 62) Calculating the Odds and Horse Racing

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    In this video I will calculate the odds on, and odds against in horse racing.
    Thank you to Rafeal Ortega who helped me understand how horse racing and horse betting is done.
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  • @jfritz6233
    @jfritz6233 5 лет назад +6

    lol...this is so bad. The odds of a 7-2 payout haven't changed. If you bet $2 on a 7-2 horse, you will get back $9 and you WIN $7, NOT $5. The odds on the likes vs. dislikes of this video currently sits at a 7-2 payout, spooky!

  • @brianyorn
    @brianyorn 11 месяцев назад +1

    I agree that betting on horses is difficult. But it's insanely more difficult if you place your wagers where this guy bets and Bronco pays 0/1 and Silver or whatever it was pays 5/2 odds on a 7/2 bet. I did enjoy the video, however. The thought of someone betting a favorite with zero opportunity of return "because he's most likely to win" is hysterical.

  • @MrWinter2
    @MrWinter2 3 года назад +1

    Another great video! Thank you, Professor.

  • @toddpyrkos278
    @toddpyrkos278 Год назад +1

    Where are you getting 9 from?

  • @0_opeace766
    @0_opeace766 3 года назад +1

    This is a Google answer, legit the exact same answer

  • @beremill2184
    @beremill2184 4 года назад

    Worse then saying nothing he is wrong!

  • @philippetsolakis4225
    @philippetsolakis4225 3 года назад +4

    even means you make your stake as a return, not a zero income.....

  • @davidcaple5547
    @davidcaple5547 3 года назад +2

    Well I think you can tell by public opinion you don't understand how odds/betting works at the transactional stage! Shame to spoil a video over such a simple principle, it distracts from the rest of it!

  • @acool6401
    @acool6401 4 года назад +3

    I bet almost daily. Payout you explained is wrong. 7/2 odds means on a win bet you get $3.5 for every $1 you stake plus your original stake.
    Since the minimum stake on a win bet is $2 then betting the minimum would yield a total $9 back of which $7 is profit.
    It’s still that way today (as far as I know) so whoever told you otherwise mislead you with bad info.

  • @paulthurlow3330
    @paulthurlow3330 4 года назад +4

    Totally agree with some others here. Michel is WAY of the mark. Odds of 7/2 from a $2 would return $9 and not the $7 stated and the Gain would be $7 and not $5. This is very SIMPLE arithmetic that he has wrong and is not just about horse racing. Notice your mistake Michel and scrap this video OR use it to show how we can all make very basic mistakes.

    • @cosmick3224
      @cosmick3224 4 года назад

      He said you get the 7 and the 2 back which equals 9 with a 7/2.

    • @paulthurlow3330
      @paulthurlow3330 4 года назад

      @u2bmusicman This guy is clueless when it comes to horse racing. Why did he make up some strange rule that does not, or ever have, existed that you don't get your money back when you win? Close to the end he stated if you bet an even money shot you win $2 so get your money back with no gain. What kind of moron would ever bet on those terms. If the odds were 1/2 on his terms and you placed $2 then of course you would get back $3, but why did he not carry on and say that you get $1 back so in fact lose a dollar!! On a winner!!! At the end he states horse racing is a bad investment. If what he is saying was true it would not just be a bad investment rather you should be roped up and placed in a van with a jacket where the arms fold back and secured with nice silver buckles. Ridiculous that this video is still here teaching poor mathematics.

  • @vwazp
    @vwazp 7 лет назад +9

    you made a mistake, 2 to 2 means you get your original $2 wager back PLUS 2 more dollars

    • @balrajn4160
      @balrajn4160 5 лет назад

      Exactly. He is wrong because for every 2 dollars you will get back 4dollars if the even money favourite wins.

    • @KimBTown
      @KimBTown 3 года назад

      Hou are both wrong. The track throws in 10% on an even money WIN. So, for a bet on:
      Race number 3,
      $2,
      Win, on
      horse #5
      (going of at 1:1 at post time)
      And your horse does win, then you get back;
      $2.20.
      Be sure to write the track a thank you note! Ha ha ha.

    • @KimBTown
      @KimBTown 3 года назад

      Typos. Ugh sorry.
      Math is correct.

    • @KimBTown
      @KimBTown 3 года назад

      He’s right in the USofA
      But you shred correct in the UK

  • @scifisister159
    @scifisister159 3 года назад +1

    This explains nothing.

  • @StuJones-gn7te
    @StuJones-gn7te Месяц назад

    The odds they put on the horse don't matter. Assuming that exactly ONE horse will win, the odds depend on how many horses are in the race. If there are 8 horses, the odds of ANY one horse winning are 1 in 8 AT WORST. With 15 horses, 1 in 15.
    Horse racing betting has a bad reputation, but your odds are a lot better than they are with lottery tickets, by factors of thousands, maybe millions.

  • @youtubeusername1489
    @youtubeusername1489 Год назад +1

    What i learned :
    1. Odds are kinda interesting
    2. Horse racing is a scam

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Год назад +3

      I know someone who has lost a LOT of money betting on horses.

    • @StuJones-gn7te
      @StuJones-gn7te Месяц назад

      I know a lot of people who've lost on lotteries.

  • @ArmMur
    @ArmMur 5 лет назад +2

    He is very wrong about the payouts. What he said about the even money payouts its so illogical. If "not silver" wins it pays .77 for 2. So you lose 1.33 even when your horse comes 1st.

  • @rebornmanga
    @rebornmanga 8 лет назад +3

    Visit the UK! you still get your stake back if you win!

  • @technoir78
    @technoir78 5 лет назад +10

    You lost me immediately

    • @recargat662
      @recargat662 4 года назад

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    • @daniloserra6398
      @daniloserra6398 4 года назад

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    • @gsusmakama
      @gsusmakama 4 года назад

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    • @daniellemunyalo2464
      @daniellemunyalo2464 3 года назад

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    • @DanielB288
      @DanielB288 3 года назад

      @@recargat662 don’t listen to this prick

  • @loyweaver2978
    @loyweaver2978 Год назад +1

    🤪

  • @garynash9957
    @garynash9957 5 дней назад

    WRONG you are returned 9 dollar for Silver.

  • @mkaberli614
    @mkaberli614 Месяц назад

    Worst explanation I've heard in years.

  • @alanphilp4005
    @alanphilp4005 7 лет назад +5

    if you only get $7 back ,thats 5/2 ,the 5 profit plus stake that bookie holds.

    • @raygriego2670
      @raygriego2670 6 месяцев назад

      If you win you will get your original bet returned.

    • @alanphilp4005
      @alanphilp4005 6 месяцев назад

      yeah at 5/2 ,if you have 2.00 on and get 7 back ,thats 5/2 ,that what i said .not 7/2 in video .@@raygriego2670

  • @garethmarsh1237
    @garethmarsh1237 6 лет назад +4

    odds payout haven't changed they just write it as a decimal ie 7/2 = 4.5 (odds with stake)

    • @apgradedgaziz7336
      @apgradedgaziz7336 5 лет назад

      3.5

    • @jfritz6233
      @jfritz6233 5 лет назад

      @@apgradedgaziz7336You're both right but if you check a horse racing chart, it will say 3.5 - 1.

  • @tinaphiri2026
    @tinaphiri2026 3 месяца назад

    Sir where are you the numbers 2,7,9

  • @offbeatscratcher
    @offbeatscratcher 11 месяцев назад +1

    Where did the 2 come from?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  11 месяцев назад +2

      The odds on a horse are calculated based on previous performance against other horses and the horses they are scheduled to race again in the upcoming race. The odds are usually announced.

    • @StuJones-gn7te
      @StuJones-gn7te Месяц назад

      The (for practical purposes) meaningless odds are based on previous races that horse has run.
      In every case, if only one horse can win, your odds are 1 chance out of whatever number of horses are running. The internet tells me that usually between 8 and 15 horses.

  • @Oraclepedia
    @Oraclepedia 4 года назад +1

    Wow, I suspect you have never had a bet in your life, jeex oke, go to betting school first before attempting to teach

  • @johnehmer3608
    @johnehmer3608 6 лет назад +2

    why would you bet on a horse and if you win and you make no money it makes no sense,

  • @2011blueman
    @2011blueman 2 года назад +1

    Not sure where they got this guy, but basically every single thing he said was 100% wrong. I'm guessing he never bet on a horse and is completely clueless but they wanted him to lecture about a topic he knows nothing about.

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  2 года назад +3

      Mathematically the definitions presented here are correct and as it is applied to horse racing is applicable. But how horse betting is done, I am no expert. Anyone who is an expert is welcome to explain it to us here.

  • @6thHorseMan
    @6thHorseMan 8 лет назад +4

    I hear horses make good neighbors.

  • @FreemenofAustralia
    @FreemenofAustralia 3 года назад +1

    This clearly isnt to be taken seriously

  • @kiritthakkar8778
    @kiritthakkar8778 3 года назад +1

    How to create horse racing odd's line
    With method please
    Guide me

  • @mackylinchetty5958
    @mackylinchetty5958 Год назад +1

    If the bet is 7/2 if the horse wins total is 9 and there's a tax taken out and u get around 8

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  Год назад +1

      Do they take the tax out immediately, or is that something you pay at the end of the year?

  • @Darkxxwolf17x
    @Darkxxwolf17x 9 лет назад +5

    Dude - love your videos!!!

    • @victorespinoza7753
      @victorespinoza7753 4 года назад

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  • @213_Panda
    @213_Panda 2 года назад +1

    Sir, please help me with this problem.
    I want to assign win probability % by using ONE number.
    Example
    Horse
    1)98
    2)90
    3)94
    4)87
    5)79
    The higher the total the faster the horse
    (Think Beyer speed Figures)
    Can you help me do this?
    Thank you

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  2 года назад +2

      Unfortunately, with the information given, it is not possible to assign probabilities.

    • @213_Panda
      @213_Panda 2 года назад +1

      @@MichelvanBiezen Thanks for replying and excuse my ignorance with this subject. Years ago I was able to download an Excel "Calculator" that would give you fair odds and bet odds based on figures for each race runner . These figures were weighted , up to 100% , each pt was equal to 2 Lengths in distance. I could use Class level figures, Fastest speed Figures, Average Speed etc.
      This workbook in Excel worked very well for me to identify "Overlays" and I made a lot of money. Sadly, this old laptop crashed and I can't find the link to this Excel sheet.
      What other data would you need to calculate in the same way that the Excel sheet I described would do?

  • @LightLV
    @LightLV 5 лет назад +7

    I've been playing horse racing for 35 years. If this guy did one minute of research on what he is talking about by opening up a results page on a horse race, he would see how totally ignorant he is about odds payouts. Why does he want to look like a teacher when he is not even qualified to be a student. Wow!

    • @ronarprefect7709
      @ronarprefect7709 4 года назад

      I was thinking he was full of it.

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      @rosegarden9914 4 года назад

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    • @lisbeidapacheco3067
      @lisbeidapacheco3067 4 года назад

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    • @GingerLeeH
      @GingerLeeH 2 года назад

      He explaining the equation.
      Henry.
      He is correct.

  • @nickgonzalez5015
    @nickgonzalez5015 5 лет назад +3

    So if the odds are 2/4 does that mean they keep my 4 and just pay me the 2? Im a bit confusion.

    • @jfritz6233
      @jfritz6233 5 лет назад +7

      If the horse wins, you'd get back $6 or a profit of $2. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

    • @anzefajfar3072
      @anzefajfar3072 5 лет назад

      In this case think of it as a ratio, 7 : 2 which is 3.5 -> 2 * 3.5 = 7, so basically you made 5 $, but the 2$ you don't get back obv.

    • @balrajn4160
      @balrajn4160 5 лет назад +2

      Which means this is a half money favourite and if you bet 2 dollars on this horse, if it wins you will get back 3dollars. Simple.

    • @balrajn4160
      @balrajn4160 5 лет назад +1

      He is not explaing properly about the even money favourite

    • @acool6401
      @acool6401 4 года назад

      J Fritz ....Wrong. 2/4 is the same as 1/2. On a $2 stake, you get back $3 of which $1 is profit.

  • @johnforsuh2700
    @johnforsuh2700 2 года назад +1

    It's very interesting to me as beginner there's one thing i don't see the writing on the board

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  2 года назад +1

      That quality of our older videdos is not as good. We have added ighting and better cameras over the years.

  • @honkymonkey9568
    @honkymonkey9568 2 года назад +1

    how do you calculate the probability?

    • @MichelvanBiezen
      @MichelvanBiezen  2 года назад +1

      The probability would be the ratio of the number of successful attempts (picking the winner) out of the total possible attempts (picking any one of all the horses).

  • @johnspinelli9396
    @johnspinelli9396 4 года назад +1

    I could use this lesson, I love to bet on horses

    • @w0nnafight
      @w0nnafight Год назад

      i also like to bet on your mother

  • @jorviz
    @jorviz 7 лет назад +2

    y bet on horses and wen is 1 to 1 you always give u your bet back so if is 1 to 1 you get 4 an if is 9 to 1 you get your 2 back plus ..20 cents

  • @johnbingham6355
    @johnbingham6355 4 года назад

    I like to to think of it as..........a divided by (a+b) and b div by (a+b) . I believe this brings in chance,which is easier to handle than odds.

    • @johnbingham6355
      @johnbingham6355 4 года назад

      eg odds 3to1 3/1 = 3/4 1/3=2/4..........

  • @don__hector7845
    @don__hector7845 6 лет назад +6

    fractional odds of 7/2 for $2 you return $9(gain $7+$2stake) i think the confusion is with decimal odds(more commonly used now) ie 7/2 =4.5(decimal odds) so $2@4.5 =$9

    • @don__hector7845
      @don__hector7845 4 года назад

      @u2bmusicman no 7/2 is 4.5decimal odds you are calculating like fractional odds ,with decimal odds 4.5 X 2

    • @don__hector7845
      @don__hector7845 4 года назад

      @u2bmusicman ive worked in the betting idustry for 25 years in the u.k!! pari mutual yes the tote im aware thats in decimals 3.00 equals a 2/1 shot,,you are still incorrect as 2/1 is 3.00 in decimals.the only thing we can be arguing over is if the states show 2.00 as 2/1 and not as in evens here in the uk

    • @don__hector7845
      @don__hector7845 4 года назад

      @u2bmusicman are you confusing american odds with decimal odds american odds +100 is 2.00 decimal

    • @don__hector7845
      @don__hector7845 4 года назад

      @u2bmusicman Whole fractional numbers to 1 are easy.
      1/1 odds = $2 profit + $2 bet yes so decimal odds are 2.00 for 1-1 odds ...x2 is 4 you are still wrong lol

    • @don__hector7845
      @don__hector7845 4 года назад

      @u2bmusicman Calculating the potential return for a $100 Bet on Chelsea at 2.270:
      Odds x Stake = 2.270 X 100 = 227 see decimal odds show the whole return multiplied by stake you dont need to add the 1 back,just saying i agree that you are as wrong as the guy in the video ,take it easy bud,the u,s racing is keeping our industry going at present ive never wathc so much will rogers or tampa or fonner park!

  • @MrJC-sz6dh
    @MrJC-sz6dh 7 лет назад +2

    They always give u back your stake plus the profit

  • @sciencelearnremember
    @sciencelearnremember 8 лет назад +1

    (2/4)/(2/4)

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      @rivaprodutor 8 лет назад

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    • @hermansmith7317
      @hermansmith7317 7 лет назад

      RIVA DIAZ- THE PRODUCER please send me some exotic betting strategys

    • @aakashgouda
      @aakashgouda 6 лет назад

      I also think this should be the values instead of (2/9)÷(2/9)

  • @johnbingham6355
    @johnbingham6355 3 года назад

    A trully suckers game,yet despite noting the rents,staff,betting slips,lighting etc,book makers have to pay,, millions still fall for it.And gaming machines are even worse,for the bookmakers set the odds ,always to give them a handsome profit.so be it with lotteries.In fact one could say that.......Horse sense is that which stops horrses betting on men.

    • @kacwyo
      @kacwyo 2 года назад

      I wouldn't bet on you being able to write a sentence with correct spelling and punctuation.

    • @johnbingham6355
      @johnbingham6355 2 года назад

      @@kacwyoI was writing in the vernacular as befits those idiots who gamble; with specific reference, to horse racing.And you may depend that if I am able to spell lotteries correctly, horses would be no problem.Further, with regard to..I wouldn"t bet on you etc ..you may not be familiar with the gerund or past participle..I wouldn"t bet on your being able...otherwise it would read ...I wouldn"t bet on you, which for the moment might be appropriate,but not correct grammar.........howsdtat?