UNRAID Pricing Shakeup: NEW Licenses Explained + ZFS Speedtests
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Breaking Down the New Unraid OS License Tiers: Starter, Unleashed & Lifetime Explained - unraid.net/blog/new-pricing
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00:00 Intro
05:44 Procrastinate Later
07:43 Creating ZFS Pool & Speed Tests
Thanks for the info
Man, I don't know how I let this sneak up on me. Thank you for taking the time to make this video!
Updated my license!
Not normally a news stuck in time video person but I figure some might not know to get in while they can if they were on the fence. Plus I threw in some ZFS fun.
Thanks Travis.
I'd love to see more of your Unraid content. How you manage your containers, how you back them up, which containers you use, etc. Keep it coming!
Definitely have that planned for sure! I do need to update to the latest backup plugin and such.
I'll second this request.
I'm glad that ZFS is an option, the new pricing model is fair considering what you get in exchange.
Curious to see the 7.0 ZFS unRaid stuff. That's going to be epic I believe.
@@digiblurDIY I will build a new system to start with a clean configuration once 7.0 is released.
Thanks Travis, I don’t mind paying, it’s just not clear to me why would I switch from proxmox machine running my pfsense, opnsense, home assistant, jellyfin, media vault and few other play machines!
Am I missing something?
If you can manage Proxmox with all that (2 routers!?!) and more then I definitely wouldn't switch.
Is there a link to upgrade. I have the pro and could use the lifetime.
If you have Pro that is the equivalent of Lifetime.
Correct. Yours is lifetime already. Nothing to change
Unraid love. ❤
Can you compare it with TrueNAS ?
That is one I have been hearing more and more about. I do want to fire up a machine with this build. I have one I could Frankenstein together with drives I believe. It might be time!
My experience has been that unraid is more user friendly and is not a zfs raid so you can easily keep adding disks. However if you are experiencing in servers truenas is a very capable tool.
So tempted to switch back to unraid.
What are you running now?
Huh. A company willing to ignore the GPL has no scruples. What a surprise.
I haven't heard this before. Have you opened a complaint?
@@digiblurDIYtried to reply with a bit more detail but RUclips doesn’t like the content apparently. One example is their handling of their mods to md which they did eventually publish, but had to be caught doing it. Shrug. See if YT allows this… ha.
I was going to pull the trigger on unraid but then found out that I won't get security updates when they move to another version, that is a deal breaker for me $250 is way too much for this piece of software, and even if I did buy the basic package the lack of security updates would drive me insane, sorry unraid your too pricey for me I would rather use anything else than paying $250
Yup...while I get it, I don't have to agree with them. It did stop me from me from buying a third license for a box I wanted to deploy.
zfs compression=on is lz4 compression, you should not see any measurable cpu impact from using this, if you want nicer compression and keep it reasonably fast, zstd, but not useful for already compressed files like movies/music
I left it on for both my cache drive and media drive. I haven't seen much difference in cpu like you said. Just letting it eat. I will check out the others. Thanks for the tip!
Annnndddd I finally bought an unraid key.
Welcome to the club!
The only good thing about unpaid was their array file system. The rest if just blah. Not worth it to pay those prices much less an annual fee.
It is paid now. I like the docker GUI combined with the notification clients for updates.
You can do that either way docker and watchtower. Paying an anual fee on top of the initial price is not worthy… for me at least. The previous licença model was much better!
@bassjmr I do agree. It isn't as nice as it once was with all the extra features with the yearly fee for updates.
I hope synology don't pull any of this crap.
fk, didnt see it in time :/ now my plus to pro upgrade is 30 bucks more expensive
I think they are still allowing the legacy upgrades though.
They should have done a long time ago. I paid like 59$ (I think) for a pro license back in 2007ish! It was not even close to the same software it is now!
Pretty impressive to be going that long and still registered.
I bought 3 more pros over the years to help support them. Use one like you for testing other sites unused as I run one unRaid and on proxmox server now. @@digiblurDIY
I was very close to buying a license and then they came with this crap.
If you do a subscription model, why would the first year be more expensive? Makes no sense. Make it simple, $36/year from the beginning.
Also the 6 devices model is a joke … c'mon, with a cache pool of 2 ssds and one parity disk for the array, you can add a total of 3 disks for data. Not much flexibility to grow really … which is the WHOLE point of the array.
With ZFS getting raidz expension I'm feeling unraid is having a hard time selling their slow array with a yearly fee
Very good point!
I'm an avid selfhoster and I've covered my reasoning on why you shouldn't choose it, but just to recap my video: You are booting from USB and turning a perfectly good USB stick into DRM'd garbage... why? Want to use mixed drive sizes... snapraid and mergerfs. At least that way you know how it works instead of whatever shenanigans UnRAID is doing to accomplish it. In my opinion, OMV is best for selfhosters, it's easy enough for beginners but it stays out of the way for the most part and allows you the freedom to work right with debian for advanced users. TrueNAS Scale if you are primarily concerned with storage needs and you have the RAM for ZFS. Proxmox if you have server grade hardware or otherwise strong system resources. But I would never even consider UnRAID... it offers nothing over OMV and other alternatives, and the USB DRM is asinine in my opinion. Not to mention, why pay for licensing when there are much better OSS alternatives?
It has been a while since I spun up and tested all the free NAS softwares. Does OMV have docker containers and VMs now? I know at least for me unRaid has become more than just storage. The docker GUI for management and easy to install docker container templates is pretty damn sweet.
The USB thing has pros and cons for sure. However it is damn nice to switch systems in a pinch and not needing to reinstall stuff or contact support when you swap a motherboard or other hardware.
@@digiblurDIYOMV has had docker for a long time, at least 6+ years. Using a UI like in UnRAID to setup docker containers with a form is a chore in my opinion, it's so much more efficient and faster to do it in the terminal with docker run commands or how I teach, using docker compose files. I teach to create a directory structure were you bind mount your containers' data and put the compose file for organization. Then it's easy to back up all your containers' settings and data with a real backup solution like borg or restic. If you want a UI then you can install portainer which is an excellent UI for managing docker.
@somedaysoon_ yes I use docker compose on my Debian machine. Have to say I prefer the unRaid docker GUI over it for ease of installing updates and new apps, notifications etc. Portainer is going to be a nope for me..been there and done that.
@@digiblurDIYIf it works for you use it, but docker is just a few basic commands... I can't imagine desiring a UI for it at all but Portainer is far better than anything in UnRAID, so I'm not sure what kind of problems you may have had with it. It is by far the most mature UI for managing docker.
It is surprising the UnRAID UI is your preferred way of managing containers. Why log into a web UI when you can ssh into the server and just do a docker compose down, docker compose pull, and docker compose up to update a service? Or chain the commands into a singular alias like say, update-container. I can have a container update in about the time it takes to launch a browser in that way. Or just setup watchtower to update the containers for you automatically.
Preferred docker management aside, UnRAID isn't a good recommendation. Everything that you do in UnRAID can be done in OpenMediaVault, without booting from a DRM'd USB, and without a license, and without it locking you into weird structures and methods.
Because it is simple and it works so I get it. Easy for people to use that don't want to and will never have the urge to use the command line. They would still be trying to use Windows Vista as a server otherwise.
I might give OMV and Truenas a try on my other little box. Been a while since I have used them.
Sorry, that is a rip-off. Nope, not with me! I will opt for Synology!
You just have to buy their hardware is the only major downside.
@digiblurDIY yes, but it is hard- and software that counts for a good user experience.
Welcome to Proxmox 😂
I'm not sure I would switch over my array to Proxmox. I'd probably switch over to another NAS centric product. I was going to switch over a NUC I have to Proxmox but I've been enjoying just straight Debian and Docker Compose on it so far.