Swans are acutely very territorial animals very similar to Canadian Geese. They are very protective of their babies and could swim very quickly towards you.
I dont like swans or ducks for that matter, why do ducks deserve to live, they dont even do anything. One time I was chased by loads of ducks and it really scared me, the ducks even tried to bite me. When I was very young I was feeding a duck and it bit my hand, it really hurt, since then I have had a major hatred towards ducks. They cant even fly, and neither can penguins, but they dont try. Ducks dont understand how retarded they are. One time a few years ago I mentioned I didnt like ducks and that person laughed, I dont understand what is funny about that. It is a serious issue in my life. Anyway swans kinda piss me off too.
There is actually a neurological condition called musical anhedonia, which means that their brain is completely incapable of feeling any pleasure from music. Those poor souls.
@@joebowden4065 seriously though, even just looking at history of singles, there are infinite songs to love music for. Even let's say, them classical music.
I actually had this one girl in my class who genuinely did not like listening music. Part of the class was about culture in music, and when the teacher acted what do we normally like to listen to, she said “i really don’t like any music at all.” . Everyone thought she just couldn’t find anything she likes yet, but she straight up just said, “i hate music”. She was the first person I’ve ever met to dislike music
I’ve met plenty of people who are indifferent to music (and art in general), but never anyone yet to actively dislike an entire medium of art. This might sound harsh, but that sounds like a legitimate neurological disorder rather than just a taste preference.
For the first 18 years of my life I thought I just didn't like music but I realized I just don't like popular music. Now most of my favorite songs and artists are probably known by less than 100 people in the world.
The trick to enjoying Swans' more repetitive songs is really getting into the vibe. It sounds corny, but there's usually a mindset you need to be in in order to allow yourself to fall into it. There's almost a trancelike element involved if you can get yourself there. If you can, it can definitely be an experience.
Will changing my listening habits just to mildly appreciate the 3 interesting minutes from a 12+ minute track from a 2 hour long album from One Fucking Band actually be worth it tho
@@nomihabo9752 depends on your disposition and taste. Works for me, though. You can also always put it on in the car. I process a lot of the music I listen to for the first time that way
@@nomihabo9752 it's not about the 3 minutes from the 12 minute track, it's about the build up, how it makes you feel right before and then after. It's literally "the friends you made along the way" meme in music form
4:55 you’d be surprised, my buddy got a new girlfriend that literally said she doesn’t care for music, besides maybe some country in the background. But to her it’s just noise. I played her Yeezus and she wasn’t even phased.
Brendan Peahl yeah I’ve known a few people who just aren’t really into music. Some people don’t even have “favorite albums” or bands. Which seems foreign to us but it definitely happens.
As one of Anthony's relatively newer fans, it's incredibly humbling to see how much people can talk in incredible detail about music. Like, I would've never thought about stuff like album covers, how the tracks blend into the each other, let alone the way genres molded or changed over the last few decades and how it's relevant in its respective context. I think it's a lot like gaming, tbh. Often times, my friends who are the least likely to play games, are the ones that enjoy it the least, because they end up feeling bad over the fact that they're inexperienced. Maybe your buddy's gf is the same way, not really comfortable with the fact that there's this huge world of music where people like Anthony can speak literal hours at a time about certain tracks, albums, genres etc... while she can't say much about it. That's just my theory, because I don't really believe anyone out there doesn't like music or can't understand it.
Hoob The Hobo hey man welcome to the fantano fanbase, you’re in a for a wild ride. But so for more context in the situation, when I first met her I asked her what kind of music she liked because it’s always my go-to question for new people, so I can get a sense of their style and personality and because I can talk about virtually anything music related. So when I asked her she was just like, I’m not really into music. And I responded with something like “really? There must be something you listen to”. And she said sometimes she listens to country radio but she doesn’t know any song names or artists. And it was really baffling, because people usually dig some music whether or not it’s very popular or well respected amongst music crowds. But this girl just couldn’t really give any opinion to any music I showed. And like I said, I played her Yeezus and specifically On Sight. And that’s such a weird ass song I thought she would say it was terrible, but she said “yeah it sounds like something you could work out to”. And she’s not wrong but, I mean when I show that song to anybody their heads split because of how jarring it was. Idk just a very interesting encounter I guess.
Brendan Peahl Some people don’t think about music when they hear it. It just bounces off their ears, so it’s hard for them to appreciate what they’re listening to. You could play them literally anything and unless it offends them, they just won’t react. I feel really bad for folks like that. They’re like the people who only see whatever blockbuster action or romcom garbage plays on TV in the middle of the day; art is just a commodity to them, not a statement.
great comment, but dropping the N word 15 times in it to make your metacommentary point to take the metaphorical high road was quite unnecessary and tasteless, in my personal opinion. Have a nice day. Light to a strong 4 on this comment.
Fun fact: David Bowie was one of the first artists to put their music on the Internet, as most believed the internet was a fad that would die out. He thought it was going to be extremely important to keep him relevant in the future.
4:50 I used to have a friend in high school that didn't like music in general. He just wasn't fussed by anything. Although after trying to find something he vaguely liked he admitted to enjoying a Eric Clapton song, which one he couldnt say haha
used to not like music either, then saw marilyn manson in bowling for columbine, and after liking that for a while got introduced to a variety of metal by classmates
I did once work with a guy who said he didn't like music. I tried finding out what he listened and just straight up did not listen to music. It was a shock to me.
For the record, I've actually met a couple people who claim to dislike music as a whole, and seem to be entirely serious about their stance. I can't fathom what it must be like to be that kind of person, but they apparently exist. ?_?
I've actually met people who have said "I don't like music," or "I don't really care for music," and they almost always chalk it up to "being too lazy to remember artist names." It's a scary world we live in melon, a scary world
sampling in a way that doesn’t just sound like a store bought loop is way more difficult than writing the music yourself with a MIDI keyboard. Chopping up a sample into various bits and then constructing them together into something new is not easy, and takes a lot of time to get good at
@@Kittel_ DOOM has some of the simplest, unchanged loops (some could say lazy). Red and gold, deep fried frendz and gas drawls are loops from reasonably famous tracks. The man truly didn’t give a fuck about using recognizable loops, evidenced by him asking prince Paul for the beat for hot guacamole. Not the best example of a producer who challenges themselves to flip samples in creative ways. Love his music, but compared to others, his production is raw and simple compared to many. That’s a big reason people like it.
I feel like a good portion of the people that find Swans boring don’t realize that the band has made music since 1982. I was certainly a fan of To Be kind and The Seer on first listen. But the first time I heard Filth I sorta knew I loved the band. And good or bad, they have at some point made an album that could be listenable for most music fans. Pretty sure I got my grandma to listen to Burning World at least once.
@tyler-xo3rb I think the point is more that they've been at it for a long time and their style has changed so much there's bound to be something any listener can enjoy but them having a lot of variety in their discography wasn't properly conveyed. To go along with the point, compare Filth to Children of God to Soundtracks for the Blind (which is a stylistically varied album all on its own) to their post-revival albums and there's definitely some similarities but they've also covered a lot of ground stylistically. If you don't like their post-reunion stuff, try Children of God or White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, those are significantly more accessible and, while the songs are long by popular music standards (averaging 5+ minutes), they're still far shorter and easier to digest than their newer material.
All the Death Grips members were in their 30s when Exmilitary was released (Except maybe Andy, who is younger than the rest but he doesn’t have a Wikipedia article) Edit according to Death Grips wiki Andy is like 9 years younger than Stefan
listened to most swans albums while I was in the jungle in Mexico as well as in the airport, and all of their albums are unique and amazing in their own right
Swans are so hard to get into lol. Especially because of how they change their sound so significantly. From harsh industrial no wave all the way to 35 minute atmospheric music. That's such a broad spectrum.
Anthony: “I don’t really think there’s a leg of the metal genre that I dislike it so much that it is totally unlistenable.” All Power Metal bands: still waiting for their albums to be reviewed on The Needle Drop.
I genuinely came to this video expecting and hoping for a 20 minute argument about swans, like, the animal. I'm not disappointed in the video we got instead, but I do still want to see some hot takes about the extent to which swans (and perhaps other similar birds, potentially including ducks and geese) are interesting or boring.
My aunt said this. I was talking to her about David Bowie and LZ the great stuff from the 70s and she said she gradually stopped caring about music as she got older and that I would too eventually. She listens to political radio and watches cable news and that’s her life. That is the most depressing conversation of my life so far.
Sadly I was one of those people that didn't like music because I grew up in an area where the only music I had ever heard was country and pop rock and I didn't even know there was anything else. Luckily in high school I discovered there was other genres of music. Man I wish the internet had existed when I was a kid lol.
When you said “after hearing decades of very formulaic popular music we love is for patterns in the music that was like” that made me just say wow out loud. I feel like you just opened up a third eye lol. I’ve never thought of that and honestly partially scares me because I see that in a lot of the older generation. I’m still young and don’t want to be confined to a genre when I get older. The artists I mostly enjoy are rush (from the 70s-2012), twenty one pilots, and a couple others that follow the formula of being catchy and somewhat generic but still bringing something brand new and at times a little experimental but I’m unable to get enjoyment from most songs from like you mentioned swans or death grips. I think subconsciously I like a steady drum beat with an intriguing instrumental but I want to break from that formula even if I don’t enjoy. I’m going to start listening to swans, death grips, and other artists like those who I can listen to more as an exercise than enjoyment.
I'm just confused by calling Rush generic because following the time signature changes in some of their songs is a nightmare and is not something most bands could pull off, just listen to Earthshine from Vapor Trails
@quinnholleman1547 I wrote this years ago. I don’t think Rush in general is generic. Rush is one of my all time favorites. I think what I was thinking about when I wrote it was a lot of the music that came out after moving pictures started traveling into more generic territory and all though many amazing songs are found through out like losing it, heading flight, marathon, etc but a lot of generic music came from them as well like prime mover, dog years, the larger bowl, etc.
@leftsideupfan5489 That makes a lot more sense and I can definitely agree. I love a lot of their later stuff (I like the heavier sound and I grew up listening to it) and while they do have some standouts (the entirety of Counterparts for me), they also had some duds (most of Test for Echo)
Grew up in a Muslim family. My mom and dad claim not to listen to music at all, but my mom does have a song she used to play a lot when she cleaned the house when I was younger. I still listen to that jawn occasionally for nostalgia. I do catch her listening to some Senegalese music every now and again. My dad on the other hand: 0% interest in music and it baffles me. Like *H O W T H O*
I think your take on metal and the fanbase is spot on. It's a vast and varied genre with so much scope for creativity and new directions but is restrained by a fanbase that don't want something new. I still love the genre though, but it's odd when I speak to a metal head and they aren't really sure of the new directions of the genre they almost exclusively listen to.
The whole "can improve later" thing makes me feel alot better as someone who is 20 and still studying music in uni and having made no progress in becoming successful :'3
Actually, I specifically remember when you went through your scoring averages for music genres. On average, you scored metal music higher than any other genre. The reason for this, you said, was that people didn’t really request metal reviews, so most of your metal reviews were artists you yourself decided to cover with little to no prompting from fans.
the thing with bands like swans is it's more about the atmosphere created by the sounds and the feeling it invokes, so i tend to just take in every moment of every swans song. i feel like that's what you're supposed to do with that kind of music, just sit back and experience the sounds, the long and repetitive songs are long and repetitive for a reason
I am fine with super long songs but you gotta have something to keep me interested. If you are just playing the same chord progression for the whole time without much changing I will be bored.
@@katoffeevhs9798 Coming from someone who's favourite album of all time is Skinny Fists, are Filth and Holy Money really Godspeed Clones to you? The No Wave stuff and the goth stuff? Your statement becomes more stupid when you consider that Swans are like 12 years older that Godspeed and already had a cult following and released multiple albums
I’ve met people who don’t like music. I asked this girl I had just met what kind of music she liked and she said she didn’t listen to music. I thought she was joking, but she said she didn’t understand the need for it or the point. I never spoke to her again. 🤷🏻♂️
I didn't get into music until the summer going into my first year of high school. Prior to that I was a kid trying to get into major league baseball while trying to appease the bullies on all my baseball teams. I was only aware of the big Beatles songs and other classic rock radio hits. My friend gave me a lil bow wow CD in elementary school and I pretended to like it. But I remember kids listening to fall out boy and good Charlotte, etc. In middle school and elementary school. Now im 24 and ive been drumming since 2009, my first year in high school.
To the point about counter-culture, I want to second what you said. I also want to add that the availability and ability to express new artistic ideas may make some people desensitized to the edginess of an artist's ideas; however, I believe it also allows people to more objectively look at these ideas because they aren't too busy gawking at them.
Also worth mentioning that there’s people out there who very thoroughly and intently distance themselves and/or their art from the internet, that to me could be considered counter-cultural
First comment on your channel ever! I actually diasgree for the first time and maybe this is a hot take, but: I think deerhunter will easily outlive pavement, and that comes as a serious fan of both. i think a lot of pavement support comes from there sound in relation to their musical era specifically and i would argue that deerhunter has been a bit ahead of their time with multitudes of sounds reflecting that over the ages from their get-go and into the modern era. Love u fantano and the fan-tanos hope all is well for everyone
I feel like Swans’ 1982 debut EP is criminally under discussed despite being pretty drastically different from pretty much all of the rest of their catalogue
4:31 I was one of said “ugh I hate music” people in my ugly middle school phase of my life (so like a few years ago) so I totally agree with that comment, and I found music I love and grew as a person from it.
I only own to be kind, but honestly these “boring moments” are usually extremely challenging or moments of high tension. Like you aren’t sitting there feeling bored. It’s more of an unsettled feeling I’d say
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This video is the length of a Swans song
Jay the lenght of a napalm death album
A shortish one
It's also the length of some Tool and Pink Floyd songs
What is length.
Shorter than Bring The Sun/ Toussaint L'Ouverture
A swan once attacked me and I was very scared and not bored at all.
Jesus Christ are you ok?
Swans are acutely very territorial animals very similar to Canadian Geese. They are very protective of their babies and could swim very quickly towards you.
I dont like swans or ducks for that matter, why do ducks deserve to live, they dont even do anything. One time I was chased by loads of ducks and it really scared me, the ducks even tried to bite me. When I was very young I was feeding a duck and it bit my hand, it really hurt, since then I have had a major hatred towards ducks. They cant even fly, and neither can penguins, but they dont try. Ducks dont understand how retarded they are. One time a few years ago I mentioned I didnt like ducks and that person laughed, I dont understand what is funny about that. It is a serious issue in my life. Anyway swans kinda piss me off too.
And that swan's name? Michael Gira.
Makes sense, Swans are majestic, beautiful looking creatures. With really ugly temperaments
0/10 thought it was gonna be about swans the animal
i had the same dissaointement the first time i bought a beatles album .
The Swan's escaped.
Swans are cute. Wtf!
@@icebear4181 they taste delicious
Same
There totally ARE people who claim to "not like music"
I've claimed to before, but only to get out of having to talk about music.
Yeah they’re called sociop
Hambone Jones and there are people who have never listened to an album all the way through in their lives😂
There is actually a neurological condition called musical anhedonia, which means that their brain is completely incapable of feeling any pleasure from music. Those poor souls.
@@joebowden4065 seriously though, even just looking at history of singles, there are infinite songs to love music for. Even let's say, them classical music.
They are though. All they do is just sit in the fuckin ponds and lakes all day. They don’t do anything! At least Dolan Dark is pretty cool.
Anthony fantano is Dolan Dark
@@thedrummererik99 bruh, pewds already revealed that he is dolan dark
If you've ever been near an angry swan you know they aren't that boring.
Patrick R. Tervo fax
Damn it I was gonna make a joke like this lol
Here’s the thing, Anthony. We live in a society.
That fuckin meme!
Ooo! I 'member!!!
Griffin Peter
@@valentinidk6101 "Pea","Tear","Griffin".......Damnit!
@@ctrip6668 wrong
I’m more of a geese guy, personally.
PREDICTABO!
Geese are the worst. I'm a vegan and I've always said that's the one animal I'd consider eating. Fuck geese.
pleb tier
@Saudade stop bragging loL. Ok you got to see that happen. Just don't rub it in our faces.
Same. One of my best friends is a goose.
I mean I’ve been listening to Death grips for awhile and I still ask myself why is this man screaming.
YEEUH
Sometimes we scream not to express our feelings, but to see who cares enough to tell us to shut up.
@@SenoritasEverywhere Shut up.
@@SenoritasEverywhere holy shit is this the real death grips
I believe it relates to him knowing about Hell's existence.
I actually had this one girl in my class who genuinely did not like listening music. Part of the class was about culture in music, and when the teacher acted what do we normally like to listen to, she said “i really don’t like any music at all.” . Everyone thought she just couldn’t find anything she likes yet, but she straight up just said, “i hate music”. She was the first person I’ve ever met to dislike music
😐 pull a eugenics on her kids
That sounds like hell
Da fuck..
I’ve met plenty of people who are indifferent to music (and art in general), but never anyone yet to actively dislike an entire medium of art. This might sound harsh, but that sounds like a legitimate neurological disorder rather than just a taste preference.
For the first 18 years of my life I thought I just didn't like music but I realized I just don't like popular music. Now most of my favorite songs and artists are probably known by less than 100 people in the world.
Shout out to Anthony for putting the question in the title as the first question instead of leaving it to the end
We have now discovered ethical clickbaiting
I was really hoping this would be a 20 minute video on why swans wasn’t boring.
It's funny cos there are Swans songs longer than that video
Objectively speaking, Imagine Dragons isn't as bad as people say they are. They're worse. They deserve even more hate than they already get.
dan reynolds suffers from depression which is often worsened by harsh criticism he universally receives. maybe give the guy a break.
@@AmeliaPond1994 Or maybe, here's a crazy idea, but maybe he shouldn't make such shitty music if harsh criticism gets to him? Problem solved.
That's just absolutely not true
Imagine Dragons makes pop rock. Lots of people like it. I don't so I don't listen to it. I recommend you do the same.
King OfKings WoW i didn’t thought of that! :OOOOOO
The trick to enjoying Swans' more repetitive songs is really getting into the vibe. It sounds corny, but there's usually a mindset you need to be in in order to allow yourself to fall into it. There's almost a trancelike element involved if you can get yourself there. If you can, it can definitely be an experience.
I listened to To be Kind for the first time while working out and it sucked so much ass as an experience
Will changing my listening habits just to mildly appreciate the 3 interesting minutes from a 12+ minute track from a 2 hour long album from One Fucking Band actually be worth it tho
@@nomihabo9752 depends on your disposition and taste. Works for me, though. You can also always put it on in the car. I process a lot of the music I listen to for the first time that way
@@nomihabo9752 it's not about the 3 minutes from the 12 minute track, it's about the build up, how it makes you feel right before and then after. It's literally "the friends you made along the way" meme in music form
@@SirArthurTheGreat I fucking love TBK but this is hilarious
4:55 you’d be surprised, my buddy got a new girlfriend that literally said she doesn’t care for music, besides maybe some country in the background. But to her it’s just noise. I played her Yeezus and she wasn’t even phased.
Brendan Peahl yeah I’ve known a few people who just aren’t really into music. Some people don’t even have “favorite albums” or bands. Which seems foreign to us but it definitely happens.
Haut Strange Yeah that’s just fucking crazy to me...but that’s them I guess.
As one of Anthony's relatively newer fans, it's incredibly humbling to see how much people can talk in incredible detail about music. Like, I would've never thought about stuff like album covers, how the tracks blend into the each other, let alone the way genres molded or changed over the last few decades and how it's relevant in its respective context.
I think it's a lot like gaming, tbh. Often times, my friends who are the least likely to play games, are the ones that enjoy it the least, because they end up feeling bad over the fact that they're inexperienced. Maybe your buddy's gf is the same way, not really comfortable with the fact that there's this huge world of music where people like Anthony can speak literal hours at a time about certain tracks, albums, genres etc... while she can't say much about it. That's just my theory, because I don't really believe anyone out there doesn't like music or can't understand it.
Hoob The Hobo hey man welcome to the fantano fanbase, you’re in a for a wild ride. But so for more context in the situation, when I first met her I asked her what kind of music she liked because it’s always my go-to question for new people, so I can get a sense of their style and personality and because I can talk about virtually anything music related. So when I asked her she was just like, I’m not really into music. And I responded with something like “really? There must be something you listen to”. And she said sometimes she listens to country radio but she doesn’t know any song names or artists. And it was really baffling, because people usually dig some music whether or not it’s very popular or well respected amongst music crowds. But this girl just couldn’t really give any opinion to any music I showed. And like I said, I played her Yeezus and specifically On Sight. And that’s such a weird ass song I thought she would say it was terrible, but she said “yeah it sounds like something you could work out to”. And she’s not wrong but, I mean when I show that song to anybody their heads split because of how jarring it was. Idk just a very interesting encounter I guess.
Brendan Peahl Some people don’t think about music when they hear it. It just bounces off their ears, so it’s hard for them to appreciate what they’re listening to. You could play them literally anything and unless it offends them, they just won’t react. I feel really bad for folks like that. They’re like the people who only see whatever blockbuster action or romcom garbage plays on TV in the middle of the day; art is just a commodity to them, not a statement.
*[insert "great video melon, but you didn't have to say XYZ" #8312 here please]*
I will now count to 3 and then I am still the unprettiest RUclipsr of all time. 1...2...3. Thank you for your attention, dear great video melon
Great video melon... something something n word meme
great comment, but dropping the N word 15 times in it to make your metacommentary point to take the metaphorical high road was quite unnecessary and tasteless, in my personal opinion. Have a nice day. Light to a strong 4 on this comment.
We can kill this meme. We just don't have to like the comments 👀👀
Kill the meme by going meta
There are people who literally get nothing out of music. It's called Musical Anhedonia. 3-5% of the population is affected by it.
I pity them
My wife cried when she found out that swans can be gay.
Good meme that one was
Classic memeit
Classic. A man of culture, I see
Stolen
"There are people out there who hate music?"
*Coco intensifies*
LET'S AGREE: Let's Argue
LET'S ARGUE: Let's agree
LET’S AGREE: LET’S AGREE: Let’s Argue
Abacab78 Lets Argue: Lets Argue.
Let’s: let’s
Seb's RUclips channel Agree Argue: Argue Agree
Fun fact: David Bowie was one of the first artists to put their music on the Internet, as most believed the internet was a fad that would die out. He thought it was going to be extremely important to keep him relevant in the future.
That bass intro was juicy, melon
Randy K. I think its car hiss by my window by the doors
It was Screen Shot by Swans
@schumel Yeah, you’re right, idk how i missed that considering the title of the video
Melon juice
@Color Not Colour i think its supposed to be screenshot despite melons being was lower tone.
90% of people who listen to swans have this thought at least once: "I hope this gets interesting soon"
And it almost always does
4:50 I used to have a friend in high school that didn't like music in general. He just wasn't fussed by anything. Although after trying to find something he vaguely liked he admitted to enjoying a Eric Clapton song, which one he couldnt say haha
It was Layla.
Because it's always Layla.
@@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author real question is whether it's the unplugged or og layla
@@jacob_ian_decoursey_the_author I-I like tears in heaven.
used to not like music either, then saw marilyn manson in bowling for columbine, and after liking that for a while got introduced to a variety of metal by classmates
Day 9854885, still no King Gizzard
My guy I know you ain't 24657 years old smh
Let’s Argue: upload the Fishing for Fishies review
LET'S ARGUE: Grindcore and Lil Pump are the only valid form of music
Based and Redpilled
We already know this tho
*AGREE
This but unironically.
drain gang is the only valid form of music
Them: swans are boring.
Me: The Band, The Bird, or The Song?
Yes
@@aceroy9195 freakin smartass
I did once work with a guy who said he didn't like music. I tried finding out what he listened and just straight up did not listen to music. It was a shock to me.
Wow UwU a 20 minute Let's Argue
I'm crying and shaking
I'm cumming and shitting
I'm dying and rotting
Swans are boring when they're not played at the right volume
I have to wake up earlier for exams tomorrow.
Fantano: LET'S ARGUE FOR 20 MINUTES.
I am hoping for a review of the new Denzel Curry track too...
Green Wockee *hey buddy did you hear the news*
What exam you doing
Chem gang?
Engineer projecting basics
For the record, I've actually met a couple people who claim to dislike music as a whole, and seem to be entirely serious about their stance.
I can't fathom what it must be like to be that kind of person, but they apparently exist. ?_?
Don't worry, you were on shrooms
LET'S ARGUE: Anthony's head is actually not a melon
I’m demonetizing this comment
Top tier
fat disagree
How do I delete someone elses comment
Shut up idiot
I've actually met people who have said "I don't like music," or "I don't really care for music," and they almost always chalk it up to "being too lazy to remember artist names." It's a scary world we live in melon, a scary world
Sampling is easy? Sure, if you're not challenging yourself.
*MF DOOM wants to know your location*
sampling in a way that doesn’t just sound like a store bought loop is way more difficult than writing the music yourself with a MIDI keyboard. Chopping up a sample into various bits and then constructing them together into something new is not easy, and takes a lot of time to get good at
@@Kittel_ and DJ Shadow lol
@@Kittel_ DOOM has some of the simplest, unchanged loops (some could say lazy). Red and gold, deep fried frendz and gas drawls are loops from reasonably famous tracks. The man truly didn’t give a fuck about using recognizable loops, evidenced by him asking prince Paul for the beat for hot guacamole. Not the best example of a producer who challenges themselves to flip samples in creative ways. Love his music, but compared to others, his production is raw and simple compared to many. That’s a big reason people like it.
I feel like a good portion of the people that find Swans boring don’t realize that the band has made music since 1982. I was certainly a fan of To Be kind and The Seer on first listen. But the first time I heard Filth I sorta knew I loved the band. And good or bad, they have at some point made an album that could be listenable for most music fans. Pretty sure I got my grandma to listen to Burning World at least once.
well shucks, now that i know that they’ve been making boring music since 1982 now i think they’re not boring!
@@tyler-xo3rb Think you should check out Filth. Might change that "boring" opinion slightly.
@tyler-xo3rb I think the point is more that they've been at it for a long time and their style has changed so much there's bound to be something any listener can enjoy but them having a lot of variety in their discography wasn't properly conveyed.
To go along with the point, compare Filth to Children of God to Soundtracks for the Blind (which is a stylistically varied album all on its own) to their post-revival albums and there's definitely some similarities but they've also covered a lot of ground stylistically. If you don't like their post-reunion stuff, try Children of God or White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, those are significantly more accessible and, while the songs are long by popular music standards (averaging 5+ minutes), they're still far shorter and easier to digest than their newer material.
As much as I love the Wu, I think it’s weird that you don’t see them held up to the same “first album wonder” light as Nas or GnR.
I guess a lot of people take their solo albums into consideration
4:07 little did he know...
Anthony pls let me be a groupie on your tour
Just follow him in your car
A Melon Motorcade
13:00 Death Grips came right out of the gate amazing with Exmilitary and hasn't had a bad album. YUH.
True
YUH
All the Death Grips members were in their 30s when Exmilitary was released (Except maybe Andy, who is younger than the rest but he doesn’t have a Wikipedia article) Edit according to Death Grips wiki Andy is like 9 years younger than Stefan
Filth is one of my favorite albums of all time.
Tha Swami Right Wrong OWNS.
listened to most swans albums while I was in the jungle in Mexico as well as in the airport, and all of their albums are unique and amazing in their own right
4 years late but now I’m very curious of the context of you listening to Swans in the Mexican jungle. How’d that happen?
Swans are an incredibly consistent band, and this guy is the first person I’ve seen or heard that thinks they are boring.
Swans is good, and that's my most contrarian opinion.
Swans like water.
Swans are so hard to get into lol. Especially because of how they change their sound so significantly.
From harsh industrial no wave all the way to 35 minute atmospheric music. That's such a broad spectrum.
I need a Lets Agree next to balance out all this ~argumentation~ please
Anthony: “I don’t really think there’s a leg of the metal genre that I dislike it so much that it is totally unlistenable.”
All Power Metal bands: still waiting for their albums to be reviewed on The Needle Drop.
That is the sole metal subgenre that I do find to be unlistenable
Can't wait for your Father of the Bride review!
Light to decent 9. VWs best album besides Contra, which it’s equal to.
It's probably going to be a 7 lol
@@HotStrange Modern Vampires Of The City is their best album though
J Nah
Haut Strange what lyrics on that album contend with the lyrics on any of their three previous ones?
I wanna know why Antwan Fantwan changed clothes like 5 times during the video
Probably because he shot a bunch of different takes on different days?
FishTitan64 shut up nerd
Maybe since he's on tour these are cuts that didn't make other let's argues
I reckon he burnt through each shirt with his raw melon sexuality
not even notification squad, good timing squad
To me Swans is like the Dark Souls of music, extremely challenging to actually wanna finish but in the end its totally worth it
I genuinely came to this video expecting and hoping for a 20 minute argument about swans, like, the animal. I'm not disappointed in the video we got instead, but I do still want to see some hot takes about the extent to which swans (and perhaps other similar birds, potentially including ducks and geese) are interesting or boring.
You're crazy. Swans are my second favorite long-necked waterfowl after the Canadian goose.
My Dad didn't like music. I remember asking him what were some of his favorite artists and he said that as he got older he stopped caring for music...
My aunt said this. I was talking to her about David Bowie and LZ the great stuff from the 70s and she said she gradually stopped caring about music as she got older and that I would too eventually. She listens to political radio and watches cable news and that’s her life. That is the most depressing conversation of my life so far.
Sadly I was one of those people that didn't like music because I grew up in an area where the only music I had ever heard was country and pop rock and I didn't even know there was anything else. Luckily in high school I discovered there was other genres of music. Man I wish the internet had existed when I was a kid lol.
Great video Anthony but you didn't need to deny the 1989 Tiananmen Square incident.
Incident
What 1989 Tiananmen Square incident? No idea what you're talking about /s
You know, I think this one is my favorite
You mean, the event where nothing happened?
Are there actual people who are denying it?
When you said “after hearing decades of very formulaic popular music we love is for patterns in the music that was like” that made me just say wow out loud. I feel like you just opened up a third eye lol. I’ve never thought of that and honestly partially scares me because I see that in a lot of the older generation. I’m still young and don’t want to be confined to a genre when I get older. The artists I mostly enjoy are rush (from the 70s-2012), twenty one pilots, and a couple others that follow the formula of being catchy and somewhat generic but still bringing something brand new and at times a little experimental but I’m unable to get enjoyment from most songs from like you mentioned swans or death grips. I think subconsciously I like a steady drum beat with an intriguing instrumental but I want to break from that formula even if I don’t enjoy. I’m going to start listening to swans, death grips, and other artists like those who I can listen to more as an exercise than enjoyment.
You don't need to listen to that, you know? Nobody is forcing you, maybe it just ain't for you. It's fine.
I'm just confused by calling Rush generic because following the time signature changes in some of their songs is a nightmare and is not something most bands could pull off, just listen to Earthshine from Vapor Trails
@quinnholleman1547 I wrote this years ago. I don’t think Rush in general is generic. Rush is one of my all time favorites. I think what I was thinking about when I wrote it was a lot of the music that came out after moving pictures started traveling into more generic territory and all though many amazing songs are found through out like losing it, heading flight, marathon, etc but a lot of generic music came from them as well like prime mover, dog years, the larger bowl, etc.
@quinnholleman1547 also odd time meters are one of my favorite things in all of music :)
@leftsideupfan5489 That makes a lot more sense and I can definitely agree. I love a lot of their later stuff (I like the heavier sound and I grew up listening to it) and while they do have some standouts (the entirety of Counterparts for me), they also had some duds (most of Test for Echo)
Grew up in a Muslim family. My mom and dad claim not to listen to music at all, but my mom does have a song she used to play a lot when she cleaned the house when I was younger. I still listen to that jawn occasionally for nostalgia.
I do catch her listening to some Senegalese music every now and again.
My dad on the other hand: 0% interest in music and it baffles me. Like *H O W T H O*
Anyone else a little bummed out when Anthony's basslines end so soon? I'm personally waiting for the 12" of some of these grooves.
4:31There is actually a condition where people are unable to enjoy music, it's called musical anhedonia and about 3-5% of the population has it.
I thought you were setting up for a ligma-type joke
I think your take on metal and the fanbase is spot on. It's a vast and varied genre with so much scope for creativity and new directions but is restrained by a fanbase that don't want something new. I still love the genre though, but it's odd when I speak to a metal head and they aren't really sure of the new directions of the genre they almost exclusively listen to.
Just saw the melon last night in Seattle. Cal actually opened for him! I’m in shock at how awesome the show was idk what to say just needed to share
The whole "can improve later" thing makes me feel alot better as someone who is 20 and still studying music in uni and having made no progress in becoming successful :'3
I took this notification as an insult, wtf did you just say 😤😤😤😤😩😩😩
Metal can benefit from borrowing some flavors from a popular genre. For example rap. if only someone could blend those together. if... only...
Well Chester died so there goes your safe bet
I know its been attempted many times, but I dint really feel like anyone has truly succeeded in making a true combination of the genre.
GamingOS City Morgue Are Doing a pretty solid job at it, but they're a rap outfit so it's kinda different
GamingOS
Four words.
*Rage Against The Machine.*
While i dont like them Emmure has been doing rap metal awhile.
at risk of sounding super ignorant, what's on anthony's shirt?
Butt sex
Red stripes
Crucifixion of saint Peter (Caravaggio)
This has deadass been one of the best lets argue episodes in a while man.
Actually, I specifically remember when you went through your scoring averages for music genres. On average, you scored metal music higher than any other genre. The reason for this, you said, was that people didn’t really request metal reviews, so most of your metal reviews were artists you yourself decided to cover with little to no prompting from fans.
the thing with bands like swans is it's more about the atmosphere created by the sounds and the feeling it invokes, so i tend to just take in every moment of every swans song. i feel like that's what you're supposed to do with that kind of music, just sit back and experience the sounds, the long and repetitive songs are long and repetitive for a reason
I am fine with super long songs but you gotta have something to keep me interested. If you are just playing the same chord progression for the whole time without much changing I will be bored.
to me Swans are just a terrible GSYBE clone. like, a really really bad one with a drunk screaming over it
@@katoffeevhs9798 Coming from someone who's favourite album of all time is Skinny Fists, are Filth and Holy Money really Godspeed Clones to you? The No Wave stuff and the goth stuff?
Your statement becomes more stupid when you consider that Swans are like 12 years older that Godspeed and already had a cult following and released multiple albums
I’ve met people who don’t like music. I asked this girl I had just met what kind of music she liked and she said she didn’t listen to music. I thought she was joking, but she said she didn’t understand the need for it or the point. I never spoke to her again. 🤷🏻♂️
I feel like there needs to be a medical study on this, that can’t be normal
I didn't get into music until the summer going into my first year of high school. Prior to that I was a kid trying to get into major league baseball while trying to appease the bullies on all my baseball teams. I was only aware of the big Beatles songs and other classic rock radio hits. My friend gave me a lil bow wow CD in elementary school and I pretended to like it. But I remember kids listening to fall out boy and good Charlotte, etc. In middle school and elementary school. Now im 24 and ive been drumming since 2009, my first year in high school.
To the point about counter-culture, I want to second what you said. I also want to add that the availability and ability to express new artistic ideas may make some people desensitized to the edginess of an artist's ideas; however, I believe it also allows people to more objectively look at these ideas because they aren't too busy gawking at them.
2:28 Of course you were going to praise a Melon Music Group.
I've met people who "just don't like or listen to music". It's horrifying honestly.
LET'S ARGUE: Ultimate Gohan vs Super Saiyan 3 Goku
Seth The Progammer is typing...
I know this is a joke but holy hell people still have these sort of arguments in 2019 and it's embarrassing
Goku's plot armor vs Gohan's inconsistent writing
Google are you fucking kidding me why would you let me pick such a retarded username ultimate Gohan ofccccc
What is this no it isn't fuck off
Also worth mentioning that there’s people out there who very thoroughly and intently distance themselves and/or their art from the internet, that to me could be considered counter-cultural
Puff daddy’s I’ll be missing you, is one of the best examples of lazy ass sample. It’s bad songwriting.
Finbar Lyons vH1s Worst song of all time lol
Your comments on counterculture are some of your most articulate.
2012-2014 music was COMPLETELY different than it is now and it is very nostalgic
seriously this is your best episode ever...you're just so goddamn sensible...i had to tell you...don't ever change melonwedge
First comment on your channel ever! I actually diasgree for the first time and maybe this is a hot take, but: I think deerhunter will easily outlive pavement, and that comes as a serious fan of both. i think a lot of pavement support comes from there sound in relation to their musical era specifically and i would argue that deerhunter has been a bit ahead of their time with multitudes of sounds reflecting that over the ages from their get-go and into the modern era. Love u fantano and the fan-tanos hope all is well for everyone
also realizing this video is over 3 years old, wow if i ever get a comment ill drink a beer for you, ty
Some chump: swans r boring
Me, an intellectual: 10/10
To be fair you have to have a very high iq to understand swans...
bruh you have no idea how hard my pinky is jutting atm.
@@NonceKillaz to be kind, you have to have a VERY high IQ to understand swans...
I feel like Swans’ 1982 debut EP is criminally under discussed despite being pretty drastically different from pretty much all of the rest of their catalogue
4:31 I was one of said “ugh I hate music” people in my ugly middle school phase of my life (so like a few years ago) so I totally agree with that comment, and I found music I love and grew as a person from it.
WE NEED A GOOD KING GIZZARD FISHING FOR FISHIES REVIEW!!!
TAKE YOUR TIME TO MAKE IT AS GREAT AS IT CAN BE!!!!!!!!!!!🕊
"A Tribe Called Quest paved the way for today's lo-fi hip hop scene"
-A guy that's only ever listened to The Low End Theory
"how are we nostalgic for a time less than 10 years ago" dude Im nostalgic for the saturation era. time is a flat circle.
Sadly there are people who just don’t like music. It makes me sad, coming from a standpoint where music is a huge part of my life.
Great episode! Agreed on the underground being alive -- in music and other areas of culture.
Ant loves his metal on the periodic table.
Favourite channel by far, such a nice enviroment.
15:03 A hot take about hot takes. All hail the semantic king!
Your answer to the first argument was very elegant, well said.
I only own to be kind, but honestly these “boring moments” are usually extremely challenging or moments of high tension. Like you aren’t sitting there feeling bored. It’s more of an unsettled feeling I’d say
Blood Orange crying in his room rn
I find Godspeed You, Black Emperor more interesting than Swans tbh
The last one was very insightful. Thank you video.
I haven't found a superior album to "The Glowing Man" to listen to when tripping on acid.
WHAT IS IS IS IS IS IS IS IS IS IS IS IS IS WHAAAAAAT
“Lil Uzi Vert is a great artist without having one great project (yet)” 💀
He has some good albums tbh