It is deeply troubling to consider that Kasukuwere and Muzembi could be viewed as viable solutions to our current challenges. Both individuals are notorious for their corruption and are widely regarded as some of the most undesirable figures from the past. Their close association with the Mugabe regime makes their potential return even more alarming, as this regime was directly responsible for leading our nation into a state of crisis. The thought of relying on such figures, who played significant roles in our past hardships, is disheartening and raises serious concerns about the future direction of our leadership.
Mr moderator please learn to let the panellists & those asking questions to express or finish their questions,answers or statements. Apart from that,you guys did a Fantastic job... Very good conversation
The Zimbabwe Dilemma can only be solved when Zimbabweans unite not as a one party state but as a nationalistic patriotic unison that sees neither the left nor the right but the future progressively embracing the past with its voestots with a mandate to self correct and align all citizens towards unlimited development.
Haa vana veZimbabwe kana taxogara, hatina kubatana, tinotya, humbavha hatitaure. As long munhu 1 aguta, vamwe vese Havana basa. I don't know if we as a people are going to trust these politicians after what has happened since 2017 and especially last year's general elections.
Greed and lack of accountability ,selective application of law and corruption was allowed to dictate pace. what wrong did Joice do. The power struggles are just selfish ambitions. those in power feel entitled to rule the pple by force.
The root causes of our problems didn't start during the time of coup 2017.All these problems started in early 80s and full blast in 2000.Muzembi,Kasukuwere etc were also chief architect of all these problems. Kasukuwere killed so many people with his youth.
What you have just said is the truth which most people in this country don't want to hear, yet it is only the truth that can set us free and it is only the truth that can put our country Zimbabwe back to where it belongs🙏🏻💚
It's important to revitalise the way of thinking of the citizens from the grassroots. They are now very vulnerable and would do anything or support anyone who is giving them lans, cash and farming and business opportunities. Noone cares or thinks about the economy or development of Zimbabwe. Imagine how the nation looks up to the Chinese as its godly saviours despite the looting of our resources 😢😢
After running away from Zim they are still looking fine, rich and happy, I didn't run away I came here I'm working like a donkey and still poor.. How did you make that money? Mataura akuperaka? We need new leaders with citizens at heart we don't care who but change is needed.
Mr Kasukuwere may work with Mr Chamisa. But Mr Kasukuwere has to admit that Mr Chamisa has been chosen by the majority of the citizens. Unfortunately the ruling party and army refused to be led by a civilian. Mr Chamisa should be respected as he is
Kunodiwa ropa idzwa not old blood vose vakare havagone kuitira vanhu zvakanaka vana vataka bereka ngavave mu politics. Vasati vasvibisva ndovodiwa not vakasvika kare
In my assessment, Dr. Muzembi has significantly compromised his reputation by associating with individuals of questionable integrity and failing to adhere to fundamental business ethics, evidently motivated by self-serving interests. I firmly believe that he possessed knowledge of the unethical practices within ZAN PF; nevertheless, he chose to endorse those engaged in misconduct, prioritising personal advantage over moral principles. This concerning affiliation not only reflects adversely on his character but also raises substantial questions regarding his dedication to upholding ethical standards in government
The thing is once Zanu pf hears about the citizens organising to do something soldiers will be all over in the streets to prevent any gathering. Surely how can the civilians keep soldiers in their barracks for them to organise themselves?
Nothing good can come out from those two. In our new Zimbabwe to come, we don't need them. Because they are the architects in whatever mess our country is in right now
its like calling Jonathan Moyo in Zim Talks while they are ones who were making the laws that are suffering us today.Its a waste of time we need new people who are chosen by citizens not Mbavha idzi dzayi furura Mugabe dzichiba zviri kungoitawo vana JOJO tank
The Muzembi and Kasukuweres think they still have something to offer to the people of Zimbabwe. They all wish to come back to the feeding trough. Ordinary people of Zimbabwe do not miss these guys.
Ordinary Zimbabweans are more poor, in 2016 people could manage to feed their families than now. People's businesses, homes were destroyed after 2017. Homelessness, drugs, guns, prostitution, motels and shabins are everywhere. We are at the worst time for our nation.
Besides the sour grapes effect and victimhood notion on the likes of Kasukuwere and Mzembi can you please articulate if the Mugabe hegemony was untouched where will Zimbabwe be today? Lets move away from personalised power politics the masses were hoodwinked into it because nothing was good then hence the citizens fell for sinker then, neither is anything good today. Some of these guys have been in the gravy train feeding from it for decades and never realised the country's economy spiralling down and their messianic posture now doesn't help the men in the street at all.
I'm struggling to reconcile the persecution of Morgan Tsvangirai, Madhuku, Biti, Chamisa and many others during RGMs time when your panelists were high flying ministers with their current statements of righteousness, which the moderators are too scared to challenge maybe because you need them on your platform to attract viewers/listeners.... Unless we all see our own mistakes/missteps hapana hapana....😢
Savior and Mzembi what brought us to here is warped politics in the land whereby you guys hated opposition and its very standings. disaggreeing with ZPF does not necessarily mean selling back freedom. The hardness with which we crashed opposing views is still our motto. The truth is we have not changed anything but Zim is on free fall mashef muchidya. why not broker for a zim that recognizes we all fought we can make the land better, not these segregative styles of war vets chimbwido mujibha detainees etc. Make Zim good for all
There was never a constitutional democracy in zimbabwe you former zanu pf guys. In a democracy you accept defeat in an election. How many times have you lost in election and failed to hand over power. You are the same old decators with no country agenda
YOU ARE WASTING TIME BY DOING THESE USELESS DISCUSSIONS. LOOK AT MOSKENS IN MOZAMBIQUE THEIR LEADER IS ORGANISING PROTESTS FROM OUTSIDE BUT WE SAY AH CHAMISA WACHI MUST LEAD FROM THE FRONT REALLY A COMMANDERS GIVES ORDERS AND SOLDIERS CARRY THE TASK. TAKUNDWA NEMA MOSKEN HERE MANJE TICHA MAMA NAYO NHAMO WE ARE USELESS PEOPLE
Savior and Mzembi think the Mugabe regime was legitimate and popular 🤣🤣🤣. The only person who spoke truth was the fellow who spoke about 'grievances and greed' being the main motivator for these former and present zanoids
Very good points and yes l agree with Promise - kuPovo ikoko is where more focus should be moved
The president of Zimbabwe saviors kasukuwere go lead Zimbabwe now people need change sir kasukuwere
Mr Maguhu thank you for your detailed presentation 🙏🙏
Kasukuwere kasukuwere please we are done with you.
It is deeply troubling to consider that Kasukuwere and Muzembi could be viewed as viable solutions to our current challenges. Both individuals are notorious for their corruption and are widely regarded as some of the most undesirable figures from the past. Their close association with the Mugabe regime makes their potential return even more alarming, as this regime was directly responsible for leading our nation into a state of crisis. The thought of relying on such figures, who played significant roles in our past hardships, is disheartening and raises serious concerns about the future direction of our leadership.
Thieves were substituted not removed. Varikuda kumbodyawo sezvamaingoita
Thank you speaker thats exactly how it started. I remember the Korean para military training cadres outside the military
Thank you Mr Mkwananzi for a detailed narrative
Mr moderator please learn to let the panellists & those asking questions to express or finish their questions,answers or statements.
Apart from that,you guys did a Fantastic job...
Very good conversation
The Zimbabwe Dilemma can only be solved when Zimbabweans unite not as a one party state but as a nationalistic patriotic unison that sees neither the left nor the right but the future progressively embracing the past with its voestots with a mandate to self correct and align all citizens towards unlimited development.
Haa vana veZimbabwe kana taxogara, hatina kubatana, tinotya, humbavha hatitaure. As long munhu 1 aguta, vamwe vese Havana basa. I don't know if we as a people are going to trust these politicians after what has happened since 2017 and especially last year's general elections.
Greed and lack of accountability ,selective application of law and corruption was allowed to dictate pace. what wrong did Joice do. The power struggles are just selfish ambitions. those in power feel entitled to rule the pple by force.
We want to know the history that Dr Muzembi wanted to explain.
Mr Maguwu had nailed it, thank you sir
The root causes of our problems didn't start during the time of coup 2017.All these problems started in early 80s and full blast in 2000.Muzembi,Kasukuwere etc were also chief architect of all these problems. Kasukuwere killed so many people with his youth.
What you have just said is the truth which most people in this country don't want to hear, yet it is only the truth that can set us free and it is only the truth that can put our country Zimbabwe back to where it belongs🙏🏻💚
thats the honest truth.
Well said brother
It's important to revitalise the way of thinking of the citizens from the grassroots. They are now very vulnerable and would do anything or support anyone who is giving them lans, cash and farming and business opportunities. Noone cares or thinks about the economy or development of Zimbabwe. Imagine how the nation looks up to the Chinese as its godly saviours despite the looting of our resources 😢😢
I don't want anything to do with zanu mbava amasela.Saviour u have nothing offer Zim u are zanu
Kasukuwere did not need to be on the ballot or in the country to lead an alternative movement.... Chimurenga was fought from outside....
Why do you alowGrace Mugabe to fire Mai Mujuru? Was that constitutional?
After running away from Zim they are still looking fine, rich and happy, I didn't run away I came here I'm working like a donkey and still poor.. How did you make that money? Mataura akuperaka? We need new leaders with citizens at heart we don't care who but change is needed.
Watching from Botswana
Mr Kasukuwere may work with Mr Chamisa. But Mr Kasukuwere has to admit that Mr Chamisa has been chosen by the majority of the citizens. Unfortunately the ruling party and army refused to be led by a civilian. Mr Chamisa should be respected as he is
Kunodiwa ropa idzwa not old blood vose vakare havagone kuitira vanhu zvakanaka vana vataka bereka ngavave mu politics. Vasati vasvibisva ndovodiwa not vakasvika kare
Blaming one another ,will worsening the situation
I think this is a good program, but I also think that you could have minimised the number of speakers to have a clear flow of the ideas.
In my assessment, Dr. Muzembi has significantly compromised his reputation by associating with individuals of questionable integrity and failing to adhere to fundamental business ethics, evidently motivated by self-serving interests. I firmly believe that he possessed knowledge of the unethical practices within ZAN PF; nevertheless, he chose to endorse those engaged in misconduct, prioritising personal advantage over moral principles. This concerning affiliation not only reflects adversely on his character but also raises substantial questions regarding his dedication to upholding ethical standards in government
The thing is once Zanu pf hears about the citizens organising to do something soldiers will be all over in the streets to prevent any gathering. Surely how can the civilians keep soldiers in their barracks for them to organise themselves?
Do wt mozambiquabs are doing
Nothing good can come out from those two. In our new Zimbabwe to come, we don't need them. Because they are the architects in whatever mess our country is in right now
its like calling Jonathan Moyo in Zim Talks while they are ones who were making the laws that are suffering us today.Its a waste of time we need new people who are chosen by citizens not Mbavha idzi dzayi furura Mugabe dzichiba zviri kungoitawo vana JOJO tank
The Muzembi and Kasukuweres think they still have something to offer to the people of Zimbabwe. They all wish to come back to the feeding trough. Ordinary people of Zimbabwe do not miss these guys.
Leaders mustn’t patronise the pple
Kudos to Mr Maguhu 🙏🙏💃💃
OUR MEMORIES ARE SHORT
Kasukuwere must keep quiet
They have no solution to Zim these guys, wasting our time
Ordinary Zimbabweans are more poor, in 2016 people could manage to feed their families than now. People's businesses, homes were destroyed after 2017. Homelessness, drugs, guns, prostitution, motels and shabins are everywhere. We are at the worst time for our nation.
Never trust in snyone with an already existing negative reputation.
Besides the sour grapes effect and victimhood notion on the likes of Kasukuwere and Mzembi can you please articulate if the Mugabe hegemony was untouched where will Zimbabwe be today? Lets move away from personalised power politics the masses were hoodwinked into it because nothing was good then hence the citizens fell for sinker then, neither is anything good today. Some of these guys have been in the gravy train feeding from it for decades and never realised the country's economy spiralling down and their messianic posture now doesn't help the men in the street at all.
Mhata yomunhu ,pretending to be a born again politician, go back home and face your serious corruption charges
I'm struggling to reconcile the persecution of Morgan Tsvangirai, Madhuku, Biti, Chamisa and many others during RGMs time when your panelists were high flying ministers with their current statements of righteousness, which the moderators are too scared to challenge maybe because you need them on your platform to attract viewers/listeners.... Unless we all see our own mistakes/missteps hapana hapana....😢
Savior and Mzembi what brought us to here is warped politics in the land whereby you guys hated opposition and its very standings. disaggreeing with ZPF does not necessarily mean selling back freedom. The hardness with which we crashed opposing views is still our motto. The truth is we have not changed anything but Zim is on free fall mashef muchidya. why not broker for a zim that recognizes we all fought we can make the land better, not these segregative styles of war vets chimbwido mujibha detainees etc. Make Zim good for all
Can’t hear the last part of the video just people stammering
There was never a constitutional democracy in zimbabwe you former zanu pf guys. In a democracy you accept defeat in an election. How many times have you lost in election and failed to hand over power. You are the same old decators with no country agenda
Indeed it was an opportunity to do things differently in a positive way for the freedom of the Zimbabwean people not just for a few 🤷♀️🤷♀️
YOU ARE WASTING TIME BY DOING THESE USELESS DISCUSSIONS. LOOK AT MOSKENS IN MOZAMBIQUE THEIR LEADER IS ORGANISING PROTESTS FROM OUTSIDE BUT WE SAY AH CHAMISA WACHI MUST LEAD FROM THE FRONT REALLY A COMMANDERS GIVES ORDERS AND SOLDIERS CARRY THE TASK. TAKUNDWA NEMA MOSKEN HERE MANJE TICHA MAMA NAYO NHAMO WE ARE USELESS PEOPLE
Savior and Mzembi think the Mugabe regime was legitimate and popular 🤣🤣🤣. The only person who spoke truth was the fellow who spoke about 'grievances and greed' being the main motivator for these former and present zanoids
Tsekeleke wants to come back to steal further.
Indeed it was an opportunity to do things differently in a positive way for the freedom of the Zimbabwean people not just for a few 🤷♀️🤷♀️