The Switchbot Lock is ALMOST Perfect But...
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Switchbot is back with another new wireless retrofit device, the Switchbot Lock. In this review, we take a look at how it works, the installation process, the features and what it works with, as well as discuss the one major problem I feel its missing!
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Don't tell Paul Hibbert about all of your knobs. 😁
The knobs can be our secret 🤫😂
Excellent.
Well done, "I wouldn't have lasted as long." 🤣
@@EverythingSmartHome Yeah 🤣
You lasted longer than I did, without laughing, nice one as usual.
Hahaha thanks!
I was going to post this exact same thing 😅
@@kimheymans6662 Me to :D :D
I figured that first "your knob" would have had him in tears on the floor. It almost did me.
The second time he said "pull off your knob" I lost
3:45 🤣 .. i had the video running in the background just listening to the video, and was starting to wonder "is it still the lock he is talking about". so funny.
Here I was thinking this will be another informative, descriptive home assistant/smart home video...I lost it pretty early, no clue about the device, video is great as always :D
Just a FYI for anyone watching this video the switchbot lock is now supported in home assistant via local Bluetooth control. Nice to see they got it working and well 😄
do you need a hub for the lock to connect home assistant?
@@alexngbk no it connects via Bluetooth
And it’s lightning fast. Almost feels like it uses zigbee instead of bluetooth.
@@EnsErkl probably its cause its connected via ESP32's wifi and wall powered source hence BT is always on?
That means it can work without any internet access?
Glad to have found this video.. I was looking to purchase this previously on launch but had held off because it didn't originally come with the cylinder knob adapter and had compatiblity issues with the stock unit on my lock (round knob). One other person with the same issue removed the knob and put a long M2.5 screw through the lock shaft as a level to make it work but that's an ugly hack.
The switchbot makes sense for us here due to new regulations requiring fire rated main doors so fitting an electronic mortise set is technically illegal if you have to cut new holes in the door - the alternative is to replace with a new fire rated door cut for the electronic mortise lockset ~US$700+ at the least for the door.
Electronic locksets also need to be certified to be both able to act as firestop and to automatically unlock when detecting high temperatures to ease escape unless there's a manual knob override.
Using the switchbot lock would allow us to skirt this since the original lockset is still in place and the door installation will meet regulations - we would just be adding a smart 'hand' to turn the knob.
Thank you for covering this! I've always wanted to know how this product compared to the Wyze Lock I've been using. Also, can you please make a follow up video on how to set up a Zigbee keypad to Alarmo? ☺☺
Wow, I've never laughed that much while watching one of your videos.😂 Thanks for the great video...and the laughs!
Wow high praise indeed 😂
@3:27 how are you not cracking up at this point.. surely that must have taken a lot of out-takes ! great video as always.. Keep up the good work
I commend you for holding it together for as long as you did with all the knob talk!!! I cracked way before you did...... :D
Haha it was all one take and I managed to hold it together all the way till the very end, then it just got me 😂
@@EverythingSmartHome also, love the shirt. I bought one of those too.
Welcome to knob show, where we look into knobs of all different lengths and sizes.
😂😂
After Home Assistant integration is done, can you re-review this?
It seems ideal for me, but without HA, there's no way.
Will definitely consider it!
Purchased for Smartthings and thankfully can be locked and unlocked through ST. Only other issue is because of the bulk and it’s under my handle, it’s quite annoying pulling the door handle down as it hits the smart lock.
I just bought one of these locks in Canada for also different price than listed here. The Canadian GST (VAT) is included in the total price so that may explain the difference in the NA prices vis a vis the UK prices if it is tax included.
I managed to pick one up with the keypad touch for £160. I think that was a pre-order price but they are currently doing 20% off although I think that finishes tomorrow. You should try out the keypad as the keypad really adds to it, with NFC card, code and fingerprint unlock methods. I would really like that Home Assistant integration though. Also, thank you for making me spit my drink all over my screen 🤣 I ended up using the device on my rear entrance knob as it was a tighter fit and my GF much prefers that method of entry. My front entrance knob is often very stiff and fails to work properly. Really should get a specialist to take a look 😅
Hahahaha this is amazing 😂
Sometimes a stiff knob does need a little attention. 😂
@@EsotericArctos You are quite right, but I'm struggling to find someone who really wants to give my front knob any attention. They are always too busy. That said they do keep explaining to me how I could try and make it work better or sort it out myself...
3:29 I think now you know why it's more pricy in your region.
In Japan, the package doesn't include all those adapters. They provide only the 2 big ones on the right.
Knobs 😂
Door knobs...right? 👀
Had this delivered and fitted on the day of your video and really like it so far! Got the Keypad Touch with it too for £160 in total using Paul Hibbert's code. I knew it didn't have native Home Assistant support going in but so hope Switchbot adds this at some point. Would be great if they also add the ability for HA to tap into the Lock's included door contact sensor. That'll mean I could repurpose the current contact sensor I have on the door. Glad to see you covered this Lewis! Looking forward to an update on your presence sensor 😏
The switchbot can grab your knob 😂😂😂
And turn it. Ouch!
Sounds sore 👀😂
thanks for the video, I have a question though, is it possible when unlocking the door, to keep open in a way I just have to push it from outside the door ? I'm asking that cause from out side my door I cannot open with the doot handle, I need a key, I can use the door hanlde only from inside, so basically I need a key everytime I need to open the door from outside.
So it its possible to keep the door open when using the switchbot app to unlock then its good for me
I think I’ll get it once home assistant support is in place.
Nice one!
Geo location lock/unlock could be a security risk so I’m okay without it. I haven’t found another lock that would work with renters so it looks good. Nice review.
Can I only use Switchbot NFC-Tags to lock/unlock the door or does any other 3rd party NFC-Tag also work?
I just can't stop laughing at how good the switchbot is at grabbing your knob, or any other knobs
Great job as always, Lewis.
I was able to integrate mine in HomeKit through a HomeBridge plugin, thanks to the recently released V1.1 web API and donavabecker‘s amazing work - in case anybody here is interested
That being said, i‘m looking forward to a future Home Assistant integration too (i guess that shouldn‘t be too hard after the BLE API is updated as well)
Being able to control this locally would be awesome, as the web API introduces delays and, well, reliance on the web
Thanks for the info Martin!
Hi! What’s the name of the plugin? And it needs the SwitchBot hub? Thanks
@@feeesta homebridge-switchbot
and yes, it requires the hub for now, as there is no bleAPI for the Lock yet, so the webAPI is all we have
Is it possible to use IFTTT with geolocation to unlock it? Wonder if that work
For Switch Bot's other Home Assistant integrations, is it able to work local-only?
If we had local-only support for this in Home Assistant, ideally without having to deal with the Switch Bot app at all, this would be a true no-brainer purchase for me. It's some very nice and well thought out hardware.
Yes the others work locally through Bluetooth
I think you said knob a few too many times lol. Maybe we need a different word :) These style locks that don't require anything on the outside and thus using existing keys are great, and from the outside no one would even know it is a smart-lock.
I am looking forward to this being added to Home Assistant and having local control, but I think we will be waiting for Switchbot to make it Homekit compatible before we get that. I am currently using a fairly old August lock and it has worked great, but the price of August made me look to Switchbot. I use a clunky home assistant triggering a routine on the smart speaker as a work around for now.
Maaaaybe 👀😂
Yeah the August ones are quite pricey! Hope we get integration soon
Can you get it to lock at a certain time of night and open in the morning ?
Just set up control of a lock with home assistant using the SwitchBot Bluetooth integration. Unbelievably easy. 🙂
😂 the knob innuendos!
I have been successful going in a different route, using Homebridge, using the plugin and then activating the developer api and finally all is working from Home Assistant
I have mine added to home assistant via smartthings integration… I’ve included a guide into that thread about the lock API not working anymore.
It is also possible to include it into home assistant using webhooks+api using something like nodered. The main problem with this approach is the 10k api requests per day…
Guys from homebridge also added this lock using the api method… it can also be included into HA via homekit integration. ;)
I hope in the future switchbot releases a ble api or native homekit suppport! crossing fingers!
Agreed, I used the same method by adding the SwitchBot lock to Smartthings at least the lock/unlock works. What is missing though is the status such as door ajar but it is good enough
@@petergothager2 main problem is because the door status doesn’t come into the webhook response… that’s probably why smartthings are not using it. I’ve made this feature request in their github page… I hope this gets included soon!
for now, I am using a zigbee door sensor instead. :)
How's it work with UK uPVC door handle up locks?
Is there option to speed up unlocking/locking?
Looks interesting Lewis . I assume this could be installed in different orientations such as upside down and horizontally to accommodate various door handle/lock hardware.
Yes you can indeed, they mention that in the instructions!
@@EverythingSmartHome it states on their website that it's not compatible with multipoint locks but I suppose it would still work if you remember to pull the handle up each time you close the door as my knob doesn't like getting twisted without that🤣..or am I wrong
This is what I was thinking as all my doors are upvc doors with multipoint locks.
I’m curious is anyone had installed one yet. I can’t find any information online
@@nathanslattery4903 my home insurance requires multipoint which totally rules these out 😢
Are you able to set an automatic lock time? example: always lock at 9:00pm
I added it to my HA using smart things.
I integrated the lock to smart things app (smart things hub is not required but switchbot hub is) and used HA integration to smart things.
No the most elegant solution but it's working great...
Works for me as well.
Good to know thanks!
I can imagine adding this to a Google or Alexa routine where amen Tully run away routine it includes locking your door 😊
Reach out and grab your Knob…😂lmao
😂😂
Id love to see what gearbox theyre using
Great video, been keeping my eye on this product but won't buy until home assistant integration arrives
So I have a cylinder style lock so this seems perfect! Only problem is though when the door shuts it auto locks so when you open the door you have to push the door then turn the lock. I’m assuming something like this wouldn’t work?
Yeah that's just a "problem" with UK locks unfortunately!
@@EverythingSmartHome definitely is! Liked it when I first moved in not worrying if the doors locked but now I realise it takes away any chances of getting a smart lock. Would I have to change the lock to do anything with this?
I didn’t get any NFC tags in my box with the lock & hub?
Everything I needed to know thanks now its time to save up
Looks good, but without the home assistant integration wouldn't get it yet. Good that it works with all the different sized knobs though 😉
The SwitchBot Bluetooth integration has been working well with the curtains for me, so I'm sure we'll see support added relatively quickly here.
And I just saw he mentioned that at 7:30.
Haha thanks! Hopefully that will happen soon!
Hello! Can you use it in Apple homekit?
Does anyone know if this is compatible with p-77-enb-pb-60 Yale lock?
Okay I have a question. So the door automatically locks and unlocks depending on what you tell it to do, but you can still use your old key to get into the house. It's not like the smart lock keeps the deadbolt in place regardless of if there's a key. So what is stopping someone from just picking the lock or stealing a key (I know that's less likely but my neighbor somehow had hers stolen or copied) and getting in anyways? Isn't this supposed to keep your home safer than before by not allowing the door to unlock unless you say so? I see nothing stopping anyone from breaking in. I'm genuinely interested in this product and I don't want to buy it and my place still gets broken into
Surely if you're using it with a lock with a key, you're not also going to be able to use a key in the lock from the outside of the door? That would mean a fairly high chance of getting locked out when the batteries die?
Depends on your lock I guess, you would need to double check that
Some cylinders do support keys on both sides - check for "double cylinders", I hope that's the correct translation to English.
Do you think this would work for outdoor use ? the housing seems to protect most electronics ?
Hmmm probably wouldn't last long I don't think
Thanks Lewis for this and all other helpful reviews and walkthroughs !
Love the TMB-shirt... and next video in the que for me, is the newest video from LTT 😁
Haha nice, enjoy!
Refreshing to hear that a knob only taking 30 seconds to finish is a good thing. Thanks!
No words 😂
separate out take video for this one is much needed
Looks good. Please try the Nuki I think it’s better and HA already!
It's different I would say. I tried to get one 3 times previously but no joy. Plus they removed features in the new version which isn't so good.
I'll check them out, if they ever decide to respond!
I had to pause to laugh about the knob sizes and adaptors.... Especially when you said it can grab your knob and turn it. 🤣
lmao!! hahaha I thought I was the only immature adult that laughed at that part.
One thing to remember is that a lot of key locks don't allow you to put your key in from the outside if there is a key already in on the inside. So if it fails for what ever reason, you'll be locked out.
just need to change ur cilinder with one capable of open both sides.
why would you have a key to the turn the deadbolt inside instead of a normal knob, sounds like a dumb way to die in a fire
@@Fine_i_set_the_handle Common in the UK with double glazed doors. when you're in you leave your keys in the lock. When you leave you take the keys and lock the door. That way when you are out no one can break a pane in the door or side panel and open the door.
Very important point!
Fortunately, mine does allow me to do so, even when the door is locked.
This is really important because:
- The battery may die;
- You can be without internet;
- A technology denier may live with you;
- You may be in a rush;
- You may want to have a failsafe;
- Etc...
I noticed that you didn’t mention the keypads and key card for entry outside of the door.
Unfortunately it doesn't fit my knob and the grip is too strong for full release later when i move out of the flat.
Damn, how big is the knob?!
I was in bits and 3:16 sent me over the edge.
Why is there none version for europe? Did anybody test this in germany?
you can use smart things for HA to control the lock.
I have a massive knob, will this grip it firmly?
Pull off your knob killed me
At the fringe next year I hope😂
3:10 I'm dead!
I started laughing at the knobs long before you did.
Haha I actually impressed myself! 😂
Good to know that is a knob grabber. Something I look forward to
Has anyone in the UK managed to install this over an automatic rim dead latch? The knob and internal keyhole is 63mm from the door
Can you find us the perfect front door solution for home assistant?
Smart doorbell/camera with home assistant, smart lock with all bells and whistles, automatic door opener?
All of this stuff has been a nightmare to find for home assistant
This device would have abysmal WAF here.
How cheaper it is compared to a proper smart bolt lock anyway?
6:28 why would you want a feature on the locks app, idealy you shouldnt ever need the app for anything but initial setup and troubleshooting homeassistant, (or whatever hub) should handle all of the control logic for such devices.
If you are using the SwitchBot ecosystem only is what I meant :)
You almost made it through all the knobs!
😂😂
3:34 nice
No you can't always get in with your existing keys from the outside because some locks are so short that the keys sticking from the Inside will block a key sticking in from the outside
Indeed, you need to check your own lock. Some are fine.
If Paul Hibbert doesn't mention this video in the next couple of weeks I'll eat my hat. 🙂
Personally I feel this is far too bulky and is not something I would buy. Maybe if you're renting, it might be an option, but I'd still swap out a proper lock and put the original back in if I needed to .
The only good option in the UK, for a multipoint lock is the Yale Conexis L1. It's far from perfect, the main problem being it can be finicky to setup, but once that's done it works a treat.
I assume you still have to manually pull the lever up before the lock will function on the Yale
@@n00ndawg Yes, but when you pull the lever up, it automatically locks. I don't think there's any way around having to pull the lever up with a multipoint lock.
Switchbot lock work with Home Assitant if u link switchbot with smarthings then link smarthings to Home Assitant (annoying but it works)
Looks a bit bulky. Hard to get around that whilst still being compatible with a variety of locks.
Yeah bit of a trade off!
Love the shirt lmao 😂
Haha it's nice! 👀
long knob, short knob, this will grab your knob. Take my money!
Honestly, I purchased this lock and I have it paired with their smart hub and it just takes so long to connect that I usually manually open the door with my key. The software is really janky and I don't recommend it at all.
Other issues arise when my partner is added to the home and sometimes it would not show up on her phone.
Tell switch bot folks to make a sliding glass door version. I would happily test it
What would you be looking for in that version?
@@EverythingSmartHome I was thinking 2 options.
Option 1 - replacing the handles (both inside and out) for a clean and matching install. It could be adjustable to fit different doors etc.
Option 2 - which I wouldn’t prefer but would deal with. A device that mounts above or below the handle that latches onto the lock switch (which slides up and down) and locks it that way.
I never understood why companies hadn’t made this. I understand it wouldn’t work for ever door. But MOST sliding doors have 2 screw for the handle and then the shaft for the lock.
I would help beta test this also.
Seriously I was waiting for you to break..... Thank God I am not the only Man Child in the room.
2 - CR123 lithium batteries only last 6 months? I would have expected more, I get close to a year with AA batteries on my Zigbee lock.
Maybe it's just one of those where they under reported it. That is based on 10 lock/unlocks per day
@@EverythingSmartHome you’re likely correct (as you typically are! :)
I take it this wouldnt work if the door has a mortice lock?
If anyone is interested, I made an extension for the Switchbot Lock. It lets you use it on locks that have a recessed knob that the normal part can't reach. Made a video about it here: ruclips.net/video/dwaqqWMg-p8/видео.html
Was waiting for the laugh😅
That's a lot of knobs 😂
This won’t work with the most common UK lock - the Yale night latch !!
If this had API without external connectivity, that would be no-brainer for me.
Me too!
So many knobs
All the knobs 👀
This 3m will damage wooden Doors when removed.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 good for knobs then lololol
👀😂
Really annoying that it is not Apple Home Key compatible, that makes this a total no-go for me.
Agreed!
Without HA integration this does not interest me :). Otherwise would be instant buy.
Knob knob knob lol
Tears. I'm such a child.
Can't say I'm any better 👀😂
If only it could push your handle up before turning your knob to lock.
That would be the ultimate solution...😂
Its not obvious to me what would stop a thief from simply smashing the box off the wall, popping the key out and then unlocking the door??
How would they smash it off the wall and get the key when it's inside the house sorry?
@@EverythingSmartHome I had a brain bypass moment, never realised the lock was on the inside.
Is there such a device that works with multipoint locks?