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My father is Doctor (MBBS). I had IBS, for which I took treatment for more than 3 years, but no luck. Then my father who is doctor himself, took me to his friend who is ayurvedic doctor (vaidya). He enquired about me, my lifestyle, eating and sleeping habits examined me and then told me it would take 6 months to cure. I took the medicines for around 7-8 months. This was in 2015. From then till now it's been 9 years in 2024 I am all good without any medicine.
Do you have the doctor’s reference?
I also need the doctor’s number
Multi system or combination therapy is excellent than single therapy
Same I had. Ibs and I am in ayurveda now nothing worked gastro,homeopath
I suffered from gluten related injury and IBS from the age of 14 after introduction of wheat in Kerala. By 26 intestine snapped and started bleeding. Necrotic intestine. I survived. Most allopathic medicines like flagyl were banned. By 37 I took a Bengali with acute Entamoebic infection to a 90 years old ayurvedic sage. I also followed instructions irregularly. My Bengali friend was completely cured. I got intermittent relief. Now I am 75 I watch with scorn gastrologists still in infancy with around 16 nonsensical medicines.
Ranveer if it is debate or discussion between ayurvedic and modern medicine there should be experts from both pathy right?
Right 👍
My cousin went to BAMS, and she said that professors don't study Ayurveda themselves. So what kind of experts are you talking about.
@@priyanshuvettori5179you should have sent her to a good reputed college. This is not the case everywhere
They don't show up to debate. No facts just ancient vibes ✨✨
Ayurveda practitioners do not respond to the debate or such discussions with proper evidence. They have faith and tradition which is default to them, no changes yet.
Ashwagandha causes liver damage he said, but that is when you take too much of this, and also there is liver damage done when taken paracetamol, multivitamin, etc
Exactly, a doc tells you the right prescription based on research. What about aswagandha, where is the research on it that shows its significance?
Already proven do some research yourself.
@@jayanttarare6136nothing is proven, show the research and meta analysis
@@avinashnagadi2700 plenty of research articles have proven the neuroregenerative and cardiorespiratory endurance enhancing actions of ashwagandha. You can access the research articles by just googling.
And it's doctors themselves who told us this, modern medicine constantly finds it's own flaws and works to eliminate them. Unlike snake oil that is Ayurveda.
What the doctor is saying is that there are some side effects with ayervedic medicine. What he is not saying is there 1000s of side effects in modern medicines as well.
Mf ayuveda is bullshit
But at least those side effects are well-known and well-documented. So the patient can make an informed decision on its own. But in the case of Ayurvedic medicines, those are marketed as 'natural' and do not have any side effects. They aren't even tested.
Yes exactly correct
He has to otherwise these useless doctors will have no business. Also what medical mafia companies who pay these doctors will do ? He even dont have basic idea of Ayurved, forget expertise. and he is commenting on Ayurved.
They are. The problem is ayurved has to fight entire ecosystem of allopathic mafia companies and goernment bodies to promote its truth. you know in india, there are many scientists has been killed literally becuase they found some useful solutions of big deceases in Ayurvedic or plant based medicines ?@@samgarg5228
I am glad you are presenting on this topic - In the example you give of ' Jaundice " and that Ayurveda would treat them all the same - That is simply not true ..A skilled practitioner would not treat them all the same. they would read the pulse and examine the tounge - examine the quality of the speech, the eyes, ask about urine - color/ quality and quantity - same for stools- ask about sleep - ask about life stresses, ask ' what else has the jaundice person tried and has there been any benefit? I admit I am an Ayurvedic practitioner ( that is born in the west - so I was raised with Allopathic medicine and I value it too ). However, I would use caution to say " Allopathic medicine is a scam with the pharmacutical companies making contracts with allopathic hospitals - that ' require" MD s to " offer" what even new ( expensive ) drug that has been created -( even tho the old - or generic version may function quite well ). Please note - if I had Heb B. - I would likely go with an Allopathic route initially - to get blood work / exacting scientific tests , ect. then use all of my knowledge of Ayurveda and western herbs to support my liver. Please Please stop vilifying alternative forms of medicine - we would do better to create systems of confluence rather than exclusion
Same I have ibs and. Taking ayurveda before I used gastro and homeopathy nothing worked
But what different kinds of treatment would you use?
The liver is the mula(root) off the the rakta vaha srotas(blood carrying channels) and any herb that is consumed has to get processed by the liver before entering into the bloodstream to be sent to the deeper tissues. An herb like Ashwaganda which is a heavy heating and unctuous herb that should be used with caution and is even contraindicated in conditions where many toxins(āma) are present in the body(which would automatically mean the liver is a bit taxed) coupling that with the amount of self prescribed Ashwaganda usage due to its effect on building muscle and reproductive tissue people have been taking very large dosages to try to “maximize” its effectiveness. Ayurveda says each and every substance can be medicine or Can ve poison and it entirely depending upon for whom, how much and when. That goes not only for herbs but any substance. This is another reason it’s extremely important to not self prescribe if in-depth insight into the action of these powerful herbs is not understood and why if one is wanting to consume natural medicine like herbs, to consult an Ayurvedic Vaidya(Doctor)
We can get so many research articles on paracetamol causing liver toxicity. Does that mean paracetamol shouldn't be prescribed? Does that make modern medicine a pseudoscience?
Everywhere it's the dosage. It's that easy
Yes. That's why modern medicine doctors are taught about the side effects. And that's why these substances are controlled and only on prescription. That's why they are tested. And only when the risk to reward makes sense they are prescribed or approved. Nothing like this in ayurveda.
You know paracetamol causes toxicity if taken in higher dosage. You can literally search the dosage of paracetamol up and you will get the prescribed doses on the web, and also simple research articles. This level of evidence is not present in ayurveda. And this level of clarity of what happens if you take what isn't present.
In those same research papers there is mentioned the safe dose of paracetamol. It's 3 to 4 gms per day is safe. One can take it for few weeks. But long use and overdose can have rick of liver toxicity. That's why one needs doctors advice and priscription for any drug to use it safely and avoid it's side effects.
bhai shilajit kha kha ke tera dimag gobar ho gya hai kya? paracetamol aur dusre drugs mein likh hua hota ki doctor se puch ke khana koi chocolate nhi hai jab bhi man kare kha le. ye sab well researched hote hain but these herbs have so low effects. thats why they dont work but your brain thinks its working. placebo effect.
baat maan lo nhi toh in scam mein pad kisi family member ko kho doge.
I was taking citrizine to cure cold, now i use cow ghee. It works fantastic.
I got air876 in jee advanced just coz I drank cow shit shake 1 day before exam
@@DatanFactMatters hope you have seen ads about allergy rakshak. It works for me. I don’t mind your sarcasm, may be your ignorance is speaking.
@@ArjunA-ln3ov amazing, good for you.
it is a great lubricant.
Cetirizine is an amtihistaminic drug .. allergic rhinitis or cold will go away without any drug itself .. it has a duration ...cow ghee does NOTHING
He said the formulations in our texts ( i m mbbs doctor from India so i say that ayurvedic textss are our texts) are not time tested not evidence based , he don't even know there are main 3 branches of ayurvedic treatment modalities Charak , sushrut and Vagbhat , all three have criticised same plants in different ways still reclaim each other views at some places they agree with each other and some places contradict ... What is this? Is it not use by different practitoner? The person is highly unscientific as he comments without knowledge
Of course you are an MBBS doctor with the picture of Charaka as your DP 😂😂
These arguments are not scientific. In literature or archeology, these kinds of arguments may work, but you have to conduct proper studies and prove the efficacy. It's a much better form of evidence. But we don't see the level of studies and trials conducted in the field of ayurveda.
You are an MBBS and I am the President of India.
Please do podcast with B.M Hegde, a padmabhushan awardee, and talk about ayurveda
He must be in the podcast
yes this has to happen.
The popular pseudoscience guy.
@@samgarg5228 says the circumcised brains
@@venki89 😂😂Damn!! I had to search for this word.
My mother was given 1.5 years by Doctors due to liver condition. With ayurvedic medicine she managed to survive 8 years. I believe in ayurvedic medicine.
Yeah. No doctor gives you 1.5 years for a liver condition until and unless it's hepatic carcinoma (cancer). Even then there are transplant options which can't cure cancer but prolong life
@@rohan.999exactly 😂
Also survival bias, many other patients being treated with ayuveda having same disease would have died. But we won't hear from those people complaining about ayurveda. But here you are because somehow your mother survived longer than the doctor said, so it's definitely because of Ayurveda
It's not system, it's doctor who treats, ayurveda may also have good doctor like that of morden medicine doctors
there are multiple factors whic can affect whatever liver condition ur mother had. also there is no gurantee tht ur doctor gave the best timings. there are multiple cases where doctors estimated the patients lives and they outlived them. so nothing new from ur interpretation
Tell them to debate with Dr. BM hegde❤
that's right, Dr BM Hegde should be on the podcasts too.
😂😂😂 kya baat karty ho.... bhaag jayega ye kapdey khol dengy Dr. HEGDE
BM Hegde is a joker
@@AP-eb8hd lol...u sound like a kid who says.. Jo pehly bolta hai wohi Hota Hai
@@abhyudayas2342BM hegde is a joker bro don't listen him .
No ayurveda doesn't treats everybody same. Even the patients with same diseases say for example Hepatitis B, will not be treated same. Treatment protocol in ayurveda differs with Person to person, disease causation etc. A same disease may be caused with different reasons in two different person so treatment protocols will be different.
- Registered Ayurveda Practitioner
Unfortunately in India many Doctors of modern medicine prescribe ayurvedic liquids & tablets in cases of hepatitis A.
That is very unfortunate. Liv 52 is one common medicine given even by doctors for any liver ailment. There is zero evidence of it being beneficial.
They are paid by companies to prescribe those.
They are doing right. Allopathy is joke.
@@DhirenVyas261 allopathy is evidence based .
Ayurved is not something came out from the thin air. Its already used and prooved. the only problem it faces today is medical mafia companies. which never let them enter in market easily as they have already billions of dollars invested in. also, we should also not forget that the Ayurved scriptures we have today is less compare to what we had 1000 years back. becuase in Takshashilaa and other universities tons of our books are being burnt for months by invaders. @vivekc2471 @@vivekc2471
The people who don't know about Ayurveda, then they don't have any right to talk on other pathy.
What did you think is the reason why ayurveda is not allowed to be practiced in developed countries? Unlike Yoga, why did ayurveda treatment is not common in western countries
Because people are in a hurry Paisa feka thik ho gaya that's why pharmacy is looting people .
In a critical situation it's good but to not get critical is ayurveda.
@@abhisheknair3667You are wrongful, West has also started importing Ayurvedic medicine, Check the data on Ayurvedinc product export to developed countries
Ayurveda should test their medicine.
@ankitjain3760, I have questions
why female gives birth to baby, why at morning we are enough energetic, why plant comes out from seed, why summer exhausting , why winter is pleasuring??
most of us know that the answer is natural rules
we can't deny it
On the same background all the fundamental of Ayurveda are based.
language/terminology of Ayurveda is different but something which not understand by someone that doesn't mean it is wrong.
I think I tried my best to explain.
and it should elaborate publicly so that everyone will understand
All the podcast skills of Ranveer are in full flow here😊
This doctor needs mental treatment.. he speaks of Ayurveda without knowing anything about it.. I wouldn’t suggest anyone to trust their lives with this pseudo doctor.
Ranveer can u stop these interviews which give complete wrong info, and also degrading indian culture?
PM Modi, a while back at an AYUSH summit, mentioned how ex-Kenyan PM’s daughter regained her lost eyesight after ayurvedic treatment. This is an influential family with access to the best medical care available in the world. The daughter who lost her eyesight because of optic nerve atrophy had tried every other treatment under the sun before finally resorting to Ayurveda. The daughter, Rosemary Odinga said “My father met the PM and was full of praise for the traditional Ayurvedic system that has helped me. He also discussed bringing traditional medicines to Africa.” There are hundreds of such testimonials. I will not write off Ayurveda just because it's known as pseudo-science. It needs revival and of course a lot of clinical trials etc. but it will get there.
She was treated at sreedhareeyam Kerala. Its true.
@@divyaharidasmenon treat all other blinds too. nonsense.
Blindness rate: 👇🏿 100% 😂😂
Yeah, now why won't a politician lie, right??
See ..,this trying Ayurveda after everything... can be looked in 2 ways.. The doc explains it.
Am an Ayurvedic doctor practicing at chennai.
Ask him to send autoimmune disease like RA etc
End stage lung disease or whatever respiratory tract diseases including asthma , TB.
It's a challenge to u sir...will prove u wrong by reversing and curing the disease permanently so that they don't have to continue even Ayurvedic medicine lifelong.
People need every system of medicine including allopathy and Indian system of medicine. It will be opted accordingly.
Kuch bhi😂
Dr.Jayhidad where are u practicing?
If u have guts come to Chennai. Everything is documented and u can talk to my patients.
Use the smiley to u. In future if u have chronic liver disease . Get treated from me.
@@banutej3437madam is there any medicine in Ayurveda for CKD, please guide
things talking about ayurveda by him all wrong
Kudos to you Ranveer for taking your stand on Ayurveda, its not urine according to what the modern science or like this doctor claims. These ancient texts have a wealth of knowledge but due to certain time periods in medical history they have been erased and right now there is a need of revival, as the core principle of Ayurveda has always been - | िक्षालनापदद िङकस्य दूरादस्पशवनं वरम ्। | Prevention is better than cure |
@@DatanFactMattersthis itself show you don't understand anything 😂 5 bhootas doesn't mean it's literally those 5 elements in modern languages just understand it using its somethings like fluid, heat, solids/ mass, gas and volume.
This is concept which is used for classification.
It's just you Don't have much scientific knowledge and understanding of language to understand what they are trying to convey.
@@DatanFactMatters you just changed whole context and brought chemistry here and wrote big para of n0ns€nse 😂
Do you understand what and how these categorization is used it's used in Ayurveda to categories a problem ?
It's not chemistry but way used to classify problems like Pit, Vaat, Kapha, etc...this clearly shows you haven't read or know anything about Ayurveda
For example if you have acidity they classify problem as problem due Pitta ie unbalanced Fluid and Heat combination...it's a vast concept.
Leave that for second, have you ever done Anulom Vilom what we use term for Each nostril...sun and moon now is that unscientific too because sun and moon are in space ? 😂
If you haven't read about it, have no science background to understand concepts, why are you try to act rational... first get basic understanding of science and language 🌚
@@DatanFactMatters I am not sure if my comments (just above this) is visible to you as I can just see 3 comments till now, but to add (if you can see) because you haven't read Ayurveda (out of curiosity like I did) you don't know what those 5 elements signifies and is concept used to classify problem. And thus you attached those terms with states of Matter and trying to act like some scholar. ..I mean I understand you just have read science till 10th but we are student of science and have been doing this our whole life and consider what you have written as something obvious so calm down kid. If you have to come up with an argument atleast know basic of those stuff too.
Saying Heat is not state of matter volume actually It's Void not volume (error) but still is not state of Matter...like dude everyone know this. It's funny you wrote this 😂😂
Even in Science their are concepts, hypothesis etc used to prove certain points and is considered base of any scientific theory or observation. It's quiet common.
There is big difference between principle/philosophy VS medicine, Ayurveda definitely good for life principle or philosophy that could actually motivate them for living healthy life or atleast lead them for that but as medicine INDIANS should not risk their life just for the sake of proving it right. Remember a bad Modern medicine practitioners doesn't mean Modern medicine is not good. Ayurveda text AS medicine is written at time when they had nothing byt today you have every information why wasting that amount of money or resources on it just to prove it correct, instead use that money to lead those textual observations into knowing what we should not continue anymore be it from ayurveda or modern medicine, I mean are actually giving priority to those practice which were written at time of lack of info inside of your body...
Not only that. allopathic medicine companies are also scammers. they literally learn from Ayurveda and use the same thing in their medicines with other cheap drugs. While in Ayurvedic medicines we have natural substance only. People dont know that there are many medicines in the market who uses camel urine and cow urine in different medicines. but the problem of today's hindu is, they want to defame their own legacy. Ironic.
This person is talking nonsense about Ayurveda? Yes disappointed with this content @TRS
There he said that when they do studies they extract the particular active principle or constituent to study its effects , what people don't understand is that we give ayurvedic drug as a whole , its never just active principle , as a whole that drug has less potency and less side effects !! Its all about creating balance ..
If you can sir please do a podcast with Dr. Vasant Ladji who is the individual who brought Ayurveda to the western world and was Dr. Robert Svobodas teacher and travels to India from July to December 🙏
What a attitude 😂
Let him know fully about his own profession before commenting on ayurveda.
Can alopathy stop death.
From someone who has 5 doctors in my close family
Please tell him i was cured of a autoimmune condition which on of the best endocrinologist in south India couldn't cure.
FDA in America is hugely influenced by lobby groups .
Your personal experiences or claims are not accepted by the scientific methodology. It needs evidence.
@@A4Aqua Evidence twisted by pharma industry 😂
@@A4Aqua Just google research articles on ayurveda drugs for autoimmunity. You'll find plenty of published articles.
Ah another ayurveda apologist using the term "allopathy" without knowing what it means lol
Why did the doctor refuse to admit he believes in God? Because he said, "Show me the evidence first!"
yes show the evidence then we'll believe
Life me ek baar down fall aane do saara science pichhe se nikal jayega aur muh se raam ka naam hi niklega 🤣
Host him in front of ayurvedic doctor then he will answer all his questions he did not know anything about ayurveda he has no right to tell anything about other pathy
I got some auto immune condition due to modern anti biotics usage And allopathy doctors gave some chemo medications and steroids for the condition. Got so many side effects post the medication. Now I am healing with ayurveda. This guy has very less knowledge on ayurveda and talking about the side effects. Many people are consuming many ayurvedic drugs over the counter and without any prescription from ayurvedic doctor. Any medicine will be toxic if used too much.
Hello how are you?
He needs security Coz half of the ppl watching him speak already they are boiling up.
People are asking for fair debate with an actual ayurveda vaidya who has an actual degree in it. This shows that the viewers are not stupid to accept everything anymore.
you assume that all listeners are stupid and becoming angry. No. Viewers are open minded, they want a proper non biased podcast.
@@Immortal_lion99Let us be open minded if Harry Potter is real or not. Open minded means being open to all scientific possibilities, not calling pseudoscience as science. The misuse of the word "open minded" is a tale of its own to justify all ultra pseudo scientific views.
Modern medications are laboratory borne, thus they be tried and tested in labs. Ayurveda was DISCOVERED in तूरीय अवस्था (meditative state) so it CAN BE EVALUATED THERE!
You both should use ashwagandha 😂😂it has more number of benifits than your number of podcasts these people think they can question nature .... according to them lab made medicines are not harmful but medicinal herbs are don't forget you are also a part of nature 😂😂😂 literally fools who thinks they are intellectuals...
Part of nature hei to kuch bhi khalega kya
@@Dr.JayHidad kuch bhi nhi joh khane layak hai nature se woh ..jinko heal karne ke properties hai woh .. differentiate karne ke liye hi toh yeh padhayi hai
8:00 what about old age asthma 😂
Everyone should listen to what this Dr is saying . Keep out your emotions and listen it’s a matter of life and death for you and your parents.
Ayurveda has worked for our family for generations. It’s going nowhere.
I listen and it’s not new for me, it’s more like a amateur lesson but is only for the public.
I don’t know if someone can ask or answer a few questions? I’m trying to get some information but ..
1. Why a new born child is getting in the first 24h a hepatitis B vaccine if he doesn’t have an immune system yet?
2. Why in the modern new medicine is not being used “unknown “ instead of the term “idiopathic “?
3.Why PCR testing by amplification x200 isn’t considered pseudo testing for the same reasons why homeopathy is considered only placebo/nocebo ?
4. The mental health care diagnostic and treatment for patients is based only by Symptoms not even measurable Signs? Is a pseudoscience? Because don’t respect the 4 postulates of nothing nobody none….
5. I’m trying not to think of something called impossible to get a patent for natural molecules but Synthesize the structure of stuff found in nature can be done?
6. In medicine one rule is: nothing is 100% safe, dose not mean anything?
7. Talidomida?
8.AZT?
What do you mean to say?@@MariaMyself
Mate, it was good for it's time. Now if you say it is better or even equal to tried and tested drugs then you are completely wrong. It was advance for it's time but not now.@@RojaJaneman
@DakshtheGOAT tested from Thousand of years , so in some cases if it is very beneficial u must use it
This guy is so wrong . That's so not what ayurveda says 👽👽 who told him ki there is only jaundice and not root cause ? Ayurveda ka treatment is only based on root caus eof the disease . Please bring people who have studied and not speaking what they heard on whatsapp and social media. Bruh this is so lame
@Dr. Abby Philips and @Ranveer Allahbadia... Anyone who hasnt heard of Liv52 must live under a rock!
I feel Ranveer, you are not being open to new perspectives. Don't get me wrong, but this podcast was very uncomfortable to watch as i felt the guest was being disrespected by turning it into a debate, also pointing out to him that you want more people who can defend ayurveda.
I was your follower before few years, but then you started inclining towards a lot of unscientific things which being a science student doesn't resonate with me. I belive one should be open to new perspectives if they are to hold podcasts with people in various fields otherwise this gives an impression that you want to defend the opinions that are opposite to yours.
I hope you understand that am not criticizing for the sake of it, i genuinely feel that the content you put forward is more inclined towards unscientific things mostly. Or at least that's what the youtube shows me, based on which the viewer creats an image of you.
Also after reading the comments, i do understand why you make the context you make, maybe thats what a set of people want to see. In that case, everything does make sense. Though its very sad to see people having closed minds in the comments aswell.
All Ayurveda supporters having meltdown but none of them giving a single research paper 😂
What kind of proof do you seek could elaborate ?
@@Rationalist_Thinker"research paper", read his comment again
@@hashvindsivakumar3479 Are you out of your mind I have seen his comment, I ask what kind of research paper they want could they please elaborate ?
@@Rationalist_Thinker since you’re the one TRIGGERED 😂. You show me research papers of Ayurvedha supremacy
Research vo kya hoti hain.... AY doctor😂
Observation: when a person mentions out of the world substance to cure something or help us with something to ranveer,he immediately agrees and puts his out of the world beliefs to make it appealing to the audience and contrary when a person with substantial evidence objects the same ,he tries his level best to take it to the direction where he tries concluding that it can be proven wrong with this or that or other wordly possibilities.
P:s - its fine as the person with hard evidence answers his questions which further solidifies our belief in the evidence based approach.
Is any ayurvedic or homeopathy doctor giving any bills in India while consulting and purchasing medicines?
Ayurveda is a science based on practical concepts. Its based on Praman (evidence), Anuman ( Conclusion on proper study), and Scripture (words of authority).
Your own words prove that it is unscientific.
@@rishi7887whose words?
@@AYGAcademy as an Ayurvedic practitioner would you rather believe in the above or the results of a double blinded large scale clinical trial ?
@@rishi7887 I believe in the science of Ayurveda and respect all forms of healing. However, it's disheartening when someone unfairly blames Ayurveda. Ayurveda is a proven science and I believe in promoting it for the better health and well-being of humanity.
Ayurveda was definitely the best medical system for its time. But it's not scientific by any means. It is not based on practical principles rather on untestable principles. For example the very basic tridosha principle, it can't be measured, tested or falsified by any means. It's philosophy not science.
About modern medicines, you know around 1940s USA doctors used to proscribe cigarrates as a medicine ? this went on for 20-30 years. later they found found the side effects. this is same for Allopahy medicines. look at cancer medicines, patients die because of side effects of medicines before even cancer could kill them.
I'm a BAMS student and I'll say that he has no knowledge of ayurved 😂 The example of giving the same medicine for all jaundice patients is wrong, what a fool 😂 He is so desperate to save jobs of allopathic doctors 🙂
First of all kudos to Ranveer 👏👏 for watering down some of the outrageous comments made by this doc. The doc is obviously very ignorant of true Ayurvedic principles and wisdom based on basic principles of the Cosmos. You cannot learn about Ayurveda from books that you have acquired. That’s like saying , “I have all the medical books and have read them and I know all about modern medicine.”
Ayurveda is personalized medicine based on the premise that every individual is a unique body type, prakruti and so many factors like diet, lifestyle including sleep, stress etc, emotional health, seasons, the place you live and stage of life all have an impact on our health. It is not just a disease curing science but preventing it in the first place. While Modern medicine is disease focused in treatment, Ayurveda is a holistic medicine treating the whole person body, mind and spirit.
Jaundice is a modern term for a disease. Ayurveda does not treat diseases but imbalance in the body. These imbalances start manifesting way before it gets the modern name. By the time a person comes to a doctor, it has already gone through the first 3 to 4 stages described in Ayurveda. I can go on and on.
Herbs are not the first course of treatment with true Ayurvedic approach. You always work on the client’s diet and lifestyle to weed out the causative factors before you think about herbal Rx. Unfortunately in the modern times the practitioners in India have adopted the modern medicine way:
1. By starting with herbs which is not the ayurvedic way. Maybe business?
2. Secondly the patient/client being used to taking meds to help and not taking charge of their own health, feel satisfied only when they get some medication.
3. Third factor is many people hear from friends and family and abuse these supplements without understanding what they need.
Ashwagandha is very heating and can cause liver damage taken by the wrong person, like a Pitta person.
All of this is because of how Modern medicine has caused a shift in our thinking.
Anyway like Ranveer said please have Dr.Robert Svoboda or David Frawley, westerners who have adapted this to come forward and explain it. I have studied in the US from third generation Vaidya and having begun as a dietitian in modern medicine over 30 years ago, adding Ayurveda 10 years ago to my tool box has given me more success with health and healing. My husband is a kidney doctor as well so I would never knock modern science. There is value in both systems but for the chronic illnesses we face today which are primarily lifestyle diseases, integrative Ayurveda in practice is a great boon.🙏🏻
Last comment, this is from our vedic scriptures, so wonder if this doctor maybe biased because of that? Something to ponder about. 🤔
Firstly, it is crucial to acknowledge that every system of medicine has its strengths and limitations. Ayurveda, a traditional Indian system, is undoubtedly rich in its holistic approach to health. However, it is essential to avoid idealizing it and recognize that, like any system, it has evolved over time, and its principles may be interpreted differently.
The assertion that one cannot truly understand Ayurveda through acquired books is questionable. While hands-on experience and guidance from knowledgeable practitioners are undoubtedly valuable, dismissing the significance of written knowledge seems overly restrictive. Modern medicine heavily relies on research, textbooks, and accumulated knowledge for its advancements.
Furthermore, the comparison between Ayurveda and modern medicine oversimplifies the complexity of healthcare. Modern medicine is continually evolving, incorporating aspects of personalized medicine, genomics, and lifestyle interventions. It is not merely disease-focused but increasingly embraces preventive measures and considers individual variations.
Lastly, insinuating bias in the doctor's perspective based on Vedic scriptures raises questions about objectivity. In the pursuit of understanding and improving healthcare, i think it is crucial to approach discussions with an open mind and avoid attributing motivations to individuals based on their background or beliefs.
@@debasmithmishra7871 thanks for your detailed response to my comment. As I mentioned in my response if you read correctly, I believe in integrating both systems for diet and lifestyle and our body can heal itself given the right conditions. I have a lot of doctors in my family including my husband and daughter. I am not idealizing Ayurveda but pointing out the tremendous value it holds for our modern lifestyle diseases.
Unfortunately Modern medicine is very much a pill pushing system today, not blaming the doctors because that is the training and most doctors don’t have the time for much more than that. Research is also focused on pharmaceuticals and can be biased. Ayurveda in India is also being practiced like modern medicine giving a ton of herbal supplements which I have explained in detail and that is not true Ayurveda.
Having studied Ayurveda in the last several years has opened my eyes to things that I never got out of Modern medicine. I have applied it to my own life and it has made a tremendous difference. It has made a great impact on my patients as well. So unless you have actually practiced it, there is no way for you to know. Reading books is just intellectual exercise. Enough to pick up some points to speak against it like this doctor has done. 🙏🏻
Yes questioning if there is bias based on Vedic scriptures is not too far off since many of this knowledge which was practiced in ancient times and woven into our culture was systematically destroyed by the Britishers who invaded India to introduce their brand of medicine. Again not knocking modern medicine, just pointing out that bias is possible for self preservation.
Anyway there is no reason to discuss further. I have clearly mentioned my credentials. I am curious to know yours if you are willing to share. Thank you!
I do think, as Ranveer mentioned he needs to bring in an Ayurvedic expert, who understands the ancient teachings correctly to have a discussion. Dr.Lad brought Ayurveda to America over 50 years ago. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi brought it in the 70s. Yoga has been pulled out as a separate system but both are based on the same philosophy. These things will not be shining in the West unless they have value.
One talks against a system when he has fear inside and he doesn't trust on what he is practicing..this guy can't be called a doctor. Egoistic and talks nonsenses which he doesn't know properly.
Docs take on Ayurveda is too harsh, almost negative, though he put it nicely. But he is right on few foundational thing, just because something written and practiced from thousands of years doesn't make it good. Humans should always check, analyze, experiment and improve
This guy is a freaking genius, he will be studied in next decades for debunking myths of Ayurveda.
Incidentally even western medicine began with basis in tri humours.....
Paracetamol, Ibuprofen is very good for liver.🙏
mat le phir... go eat some plants. and pray.
Business comes first and then treatment in today's medical world.
Beautiful comment 😂
12:25 Even Finisteride cause such problems and other modern medicines too.
All medicines cause problems if taken unnecessary. Doctors know this. Scientists know this. That's why they are prescription drugs. That's why they are controlled substances. That's why they research the side effects. That's why they take a calculated risk to reward guess when they prescribe you medicines. The reward is you'll be free from disease. The risk is you MIGHT get a side effect. That's why they test it on hundreds of people to find out who's at risk. And they won't prescribe you that drug if you're one of the high risk ones. That's why the doctor asks you about your preexisting conditions even if it's not directly related to your current condition.
Does ayurveda do any of this ? No. Does it learn anything new ? No. You think people who wrote it knew EVERYTHING and it NEVER needs to update ? How ignorant. How stupid.
But it is advertised as side effects on contrary Ayurveda advertises itself as no side effects
"In this case you have to give this only" seriously??
No, in many places in samhita, acharya has said to use own intelligence of a doctor. He has just given चिकित्सा सूत्र which is the key to treatments. NOWHERE ACHARYA HAS SAID THAT IN THIS CASE GIVE THIS ONLY.
All three schools of ayurved charak sushrut vagbhat have their own lineage of deciples, madhavacharya , nagarjun , qnd many more who have made changes time to time according to changes in society and culture, nature.. still saying its rigidis fulish, And he also says that our text say no changes should be made in treatment or formulation is totally wrong.. all Acharya says examine the patients and make your own formulation according to your diagnosis...
Stop spreading such messages to society... otherwise we All need to further action on your channel
Glad to see so many comments taking a stand for Ayurved & against spreading the misconceptions against it
ayurveda is a fraud lol
Insightful ❤
I have seen some of his posts about diagnosing diseases. Some em has just shocked me because I have yet to see a doctor this determined in real life. Who will put all his energy to find the root cause of the disease.
The how reserved catagory doctors looks like...🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴...........here in my area givt medical college professor took only ayurveda treatment for their family...one old man was cured by our sir with only treatment that mentioned in samhita he was patient of liver cirrhosis and took all allopathy treatment from years and still no results he was cured within 3 months ge touched our sir feet when discharged even he was older than him...other same case in my internship time one Parkinson's disease patient se 70% improvement with in 2 month of treatment ...he was taking allopathic medicine from 14 years...and had no results.....so shut up
Ranveer talks about keeping an open mind but most his veiwers doesnt have sinlge ounce of rational thinking or open mindness
Respected dr you can not say that ayurvedic medicine is not tested ..since it has been used from ages and ages as you say.. it has been tested on millions of populations .. Modern medication gets approval on the basis of selected populations in phase 3 studies right? still you dare to say it is validated..
We have also pathophysiology
Hetus..root causes..
You didn't study ayurved so you don't know about that..
Except you.
😂
Then why do u watch
What is open mind according to you? Is it accepting anything?
Do Video with Ayurveda Doctor to justify the science, a person who didn't learn Ayurved, then how can any one talk on the science?
Dude read about him first. He works with ex ayurvedic doctors, who assist him in debunking the mysts of a pseudo science.
you did not understand english na.. hahahahah no wonder you are talking about something which is already covered in the video. shame shame.
Ayurveda doctors will not discount modern medicine. However Modern Medicine cannot coexist with Ayurveda. Not everything can be measured either. Energy is one example, if someone says I feel tired can you measure the energy that that person needs?
Conversely when some says Thyroid levels is in the normal range, does that mean it's functioning correctly for that specific person -- even though the body has symptoms, such as fatigue and insomnia? No, THEIR body needs are different.
We can clearly see modern medine has holes in analysis.
Analysis is not exclusive for modern medicine either. The depth of analysis can be done for Chinese, South American and Indian medicine as well.
Poor form from the doctor here, highly biased when he says even after two decades Ayurveda reasearch cannot change.
The new age medicines are always good to cure, but Ayurveda is more from a preventive perspective, and it works if someone follows the lifestyle.
Hey ranveer please invite Vd. L. MAHADEVAN SIR FOR YOUR EPISODE
Yes, please have this great doctor 🙏
My tooth was all gone I went under root canal then my other tooth got decayed the doc advised root canal again but I went to our "GOTHIYA"(gurjar diety" devnarayanji " used to come to his body" he told me to stop eating sugar and use "SAFED MUSLI "( root plant found in sand dunes or mountains of Rajasthan " ) morning and night for 3 weeks ....I used it and my teeths got better stronger and I took it for 3 months in and out and now my tooth has filled half again....and it's healthy..and now I am using 25 rupees dabar lal powder by using it my tooth are getting much better ....so stop this bullshit argument that ayurved is bluff and all ...I think allopathy has nothing to do with health but money
You need to up your game. I will continue to support you Ranveer, till you get to a stage where you can bring more prominent medical professionals on your show. Especially, tbose who expose the hypocrisy of modern medicine, their associations and their practitioners. Bring Dr. David Frawley, Dr. Vasant Lad, Dr. B. M. Hegde, and the likes of Dr. John McDougall on your show please! The kind of misinformation being spread in this particular episode is just plain scary. Can you even fathom the kind of damage modern medicine aka allopathy can cause? And if you manage to bring your viewers to naively believe whats being said here, then you are equally responsible. Please be more circumspect. You owe it to your viewers.
Who is this person on social platform??? And why you taking interview of him..
Because ayurveda is not evidence based medicine
9:45 Is that is true how does Vaccination work? That is evidence based, scientific, right?
Mr. So called doctor - please go through PANDU - KAMALA Chikista adhyaya of Charak Samhita and read the pathogenesis thoroughly where our Acharyas have mentioned clearly about the issue
those acharayas who did so much will be disgusted with your inability to move ahead. they went forward you look backward.
Where is the clinical trial ?
Pandu😂
There should be a lawsuit against him for defaming a system of medicine and deliberately spreading misinformation to millions of viewers. He has no rights to speak on something he doesn't know.
He gives scientific proof for everything. Why don't you file a lawsuit with scientific proof
@@ravichandranv3426 the research he's referring to clearly says that the medicine was taken without a doctor's supervision and in excess quantity. In excess dosage any medicine can cause toxicity.
U do it then
@@rajak6226 he would have already done it if he was a lawyer. Why are you getting offended?
Truth hurts. Especially when it goes against your beliefs. But stay honest. Seek the truth. Even if it's inconvenient. And welcome to science.
Homeopathy: When there's no alternative..hope for the placebo effect to occur to the patient!
Ayurveda: For lifestyle improvements or in tandem with modern medicine after confirming with your Doctor!
Modern Medicine: Diagnosis, Treatments, prevention & cure.
No ,Ayurveda says = swaasthya swathya Rakshanam atur tasaye vikar prasnam. Means Ayurveda makes the healthy person to be healthy and Ayurveda also cure the patient who is suffering from disease.
Where allopathy given up Ayurveda does mitacles, after all medicine is a sibstance ,if given with evidence or observation , method is important,and suitability is the solution.
How to get convinced that .. Ancient texts of Ayurveda got the content without research and scientific structure ? 🤔 Because it’s 3000+ years ago and we can’t speak to those people ?
We have everyone from software engineers turned cookbook authors to Allopathy doctors bashing Ayurveda all the time. IMHO, no one should have the right to criticise another stream of medicine without dedicating years to study it. Why Ranveer is so naive and expects an unbiased and educated answer is beyond me. IMHO, any doctor worth his salt should refrain from commenting on a subject that he is not an expert on, except to advise the general public to not follow social media trends and self-medicate.
Shows their insecurity. Like allopathy has no side effects only benefits. Any allopathy medicine has a side effect on liver first. What money they get for research is way more than ayurvedic medicine research.
@@khushimovthere is no such thing as allopathy. It's modern science, modern science never claimed it doesn't have any side effects.
@@raghukoundinya9115 Yes lmao he even said it iin the clip
Why not bash other forms of medicine that are not researched and tested destroying people's life and money?
@@ankitjain3760 he bashed homeopathy as well.
I am ayurvedic student we study both modern medicine as well ayurveda please invite Dr ravishankar polisetty a cardiac surgeon who studied both science but practice ayurveda he will shut his mouth
Dr., elemental theory or panchamahabhutas are NOT TREATMENT PRINCIPLES. They are principles of सृष्टि उत्पत्ति (beginning of universe) and basic structure of any object you look around.
The fact about Ashwagandha is very true .I was unknowingly allergic to it.Further when i was examined for liver malfunctioning ,the liver was severely impaired.
That is an allergic reaction specific to one person. There are so many people allergic to penicillin. That doesn't mean that penicillin shouldn't be prescribed to other patients who need it.
@@Hope-ml5nu i mentioned that above.
Exactly the dr will ask u for ur allergic history and then take the call. If he dosennt do this u can sue the modern medicine doc. Can this happen in ayurvveda .....?
This is called real science. Proud of him.
haha nice catholic support..wonder what this doc stand is on catholic priest working miracle cures in Kerala ? I am sure that would be scientific as its been legitmised by the Pope
@@drabhibds This has nothing to do with catholic support. If there is a priest who does this then no one supports the priest. Our religion is science!!!
@sujithkvarghese5616 No science is perfect , we should concentrate on which is best work for which disease whatever its PATHY
@@sujithkvarghese5616😂😂😂 science is a living phenomenon, what was true earlier is not now .
This doctor is half baked .
One face of anything is not truth
@@praveenhegde8107 This is the trouble when you don't have scientific temper. I don't blame you because science is not taught in our schools the way it should be. Learn and be free thats all I can say. Ultimately you have to pay the price.
Tell me About Retinopathic management in Allopathy??🙄
What about Renal Calculi and Cholelithiasis without any operative ??
Which Allopathic Medicine you prescribe for IBS??
Then why you prescribe Liv 52 😒
I think sir has not heard about'nidhana parivarjana' which is removing the root cause actually in ayurveda.
There is no such word in allopathy .
Allopathic doctors are treating by symptomatically not ayurveda vaidyas .
Ayurveda is scientifically proven research based medicine .
Ayurveda Acharyas were researched and documebted the knowledge in samhita .you should know about that.
hope you got your ayurvedic covid vaccine.
😂
Your argument is easily debunked by the mere existence of modern vaccines, anti-biotics and anti-fungal medicines. All of them treat the root cause not the symptoms.
now this is gold. a huge lesson in thinking rationally.
Say anything in English with western medicine tag,, " ya this is rational and correct,, """ bs .crap
Ayurveda works. People that know it does will never let it disappear.
@@116jaguar?
Scientific method is same everywhere
@@ArjunA-ln3ov and what exactly is everywhere
@@116jaguar a simple statistical hypothesis testing.
Huge mistake to bring this "pseudo doc" on your show, Ranveer. Please take the episode down. Not only is he putting the Ayurvedic Doctors down, He's ignorantly ranting about a 5000 year plus ancient system of medicine and the science of Life! People who watch your podcast regularly would think twice before consulting an ayurvedic doctor.
How does "5000 years" prove anything about it being science? Science doesn't work by this sort of illogical fallacy. No amount of pseudo nationalism and self-glorification of past is a substitute for Science. "5000 years" or "1 billion years" or belief of 8 billion people on Earth don't make a pseudoscience science. Go for randomised double blind clinical trials and get them published in peer reviewed journal like Lancet, Nature. Then everyone will believe in Ayurveda. Otherwise keep saying whatever u or I want to say, it will not become science.
Any drug taken in excess will cause either side effects like your steroids in COVID, Like paracetamol in NSAID induced Fatty liver or long term usage of rantindine (rantac) in neurological issues
First of all did he study Ayurveda?
Tata is going to open an integrated cancer hospital. Ayurveda and allopathy combined. Does he know this?
Even WHO recommended to promote Traditional medicines
Most of the modern hospitals have ayurvedic wing nowadays. They don't want to miss out because they know it works.
Need more logical people like him🙌
What's funny is that none of the ayurveda experts who comment here have any actual scientific evidence to deny his claims other than anecdotes 😄
Sir please can you go search about clinical trials of Ayurveda in Google scholar research gate. Both null hypothesis and alternate hypothesis accepted results can be seen published. Try to research before commenting.
All anecdotal evidences
Science isn't trustworthy. We have seen the scientists flip flop over COVID. We have seen the science promote the big bang theory, which is just as atrocious as the Genesis creation story. The universe is a steady state and science denies that and chooses to believe their own creation story or version of it. Also ayurveda has been used for thousands of years and has worked for friends and family of mine. I'd trust personal experience over a piece of paper or internet study telling me what to believe.
The "trust the science" youtube community guidelines keep deleting my comments, but the empirical evidence has been inaccurate many times. They have been inaccurate on the pandemic, they have promoted the big bang theory which is their own creation belief, they have denied that the universe is a steady state, in favor of their own big bang narrative. I would trust personal experience from several family, friends, and loved ones over a piece of paper or internet study telling me what is right
The empirical evidence has been inaccurate many times. They have been inaccurate on the pandemic, they have promoted the big bang theory which is their own creation belief, they have denied that the universe is a steady state, in favor of their own big bang narrative. I would trust personal experience from several family, friends, and loved ones over a piece of paper or internet study telling me what is right
Finally a sensible man on your podcast for once 😂
Who spreads misinformation with his half-baked knowledge on the subject he's speaking on
@@Hope-ml5nu like 5000 year old foolishness.
Where do your so called "sensible" people go when they don't have answers to questions by patients. When more dangerous viruses will show face, these same doctors will be hiding under their beds without any solutions...that is the time when everyone one remembers "ayurveda" and other streams of healing! Stop being an ostrich that has their head stuck in the ground 😂🙏🏻
Sensible who's anti hindu and defaming ayurveda for his own benefits.
@@Theayurvedadoc you are the fool preying on innocent people and making money. shame shame.
How the person who havent studied Ayurveda can commnet over Ayurveda?
you only need grade 10th science to comments on ayurveda
About Ashwagandha n guduchi.....they r best drugs in Ayurveda when used under medical supervision...basic difference in plant medicine n ayurveda is they r exract base which is again like dingle phytochrmucal u r using...Ayurveda recommends use if whole part of plant which us more useful like root,leaves,fruits sometimes whole plant bcos it contains other ingredients which counteracts with active ingredient giving u more side benefits not side-effects....so please refrain to consume such content from social media ...when it comes to health every science has its own limitations nothing is totally wrong n right
Read single phytochemical..typo mistake
He is commenting on something which he doesn’t know. He should have thorough knowledge of Ayurveda before commenting.
We do respect both the Mediceans.
but it looks like you dont respect a dictionary. you should.
Please do video on BHMS Doctor
Zero Ayurveda contribution???
Bro Ayurveda has its own set of terminologies which we call RASA, GUNA, VIRYA, VIPAKA, PRABHAVA, KARMA,etc. There is whole brach of Ayurveda aka DRAVYA GUNA which deals with this. You need to understand those basic terms and concepts, to understand contribution of Ayurveda. 12:50
Ayurveda is also about plants 😭😭 not just believe . wtf you are saying.....
What I hate about these doctors are their Know All attitude. I agree there are bad apples in the system who have brought disrepute to holistic medicine practice, but to conclude that ancient systems are not scientific is absurd. Science itself is evolving and many reputed so called scientific theories are getting debunked every day. When he himself concludes researches are not done then how can he claim Ayurveda does not work.
If he has the guts he should debate with Dr B M Hegde who is a medical practitioner and professor and I request Ranveer to facilitate this discussion
Ayurveda does not treat the symptom or the disease, it treats the person as a whole.
Good luck curing cancer with it
Repeat a lie for 1000 times and it won't become a fact.
@@akashaym9271But alpathy always works in a cost 🤡
Can Dr Phillips speak about the money swindling phenomenon which happens in corporate hospitals??
People are turning to Alternative medicine due to the fear of Allopathic doctors 😡. Not all are greedy and inhuman.
There are good allopathic practitioners in every Indian city.
Unless you know an allopathic doctor well, i guarantee that none can get proper attention from any corporate hospital.
This guy is paid to tell this...or he is very insecure abt his profession...cuz everything is pseudoscience and medicine is based on placebo effect most often then not..
Yes meditation n pranayam yoga n meditating under a pyramid or putting a pyramid cap n meditating n also drinking pyramid charged water are the key to heal all disease without medicine
okay do all these stuff and dont take any medicine even if u get a slightest bacterial infection
When you're on the death bed read your comment and console yourself.
Always do the same for yourself, a fitting darwinian survival of the fittest.
😂😂😂😂. Prove your comment you will become a prophet
so does it mean EBM has no side effects.??
u r giving medicines to cure symptoms or the root cause which causes the symptoms of jaundice, ayurveda does the same .....
the diff is jus tht ur medicine is based on medical blood test and ayurveda or plant based medicine is based on symptoms of the patient.
but u cant deny, people are lot more healthier than now , when no EBM is used soo often,,, if u need proof ask ur parents and grandparents.
sooooo soo much modern medicine is available, still no one is healthy and people are getting sick more often , whyy???
If ayurveda was a pseudo science then why would Government build institutes like AIIA.....And why would they establish Minsitry of AYUSH
This man spoke true facts....respect