Thanks for this video. I've been interested in the Art Graf product, but talked myself out of buying it because I have a tube of DS graphite. I took a small mint tin and filled it with the DS, and basically made my own easily portable graphite paint puck. I may have to pick up a bottle of the Liquid Pencil, tho. Love that sepia color!
Very useful video Parka ! I love your second sketch (in the street). To sketch in grey, I use sometimes the 4 Graphitone you’ve presented in another video and I like it. We can rub wet brush on the pencil mine, very convenient when drawing outside.
There are various painting tools, and it doesn't matter whether it is good or bad. As long as it suits your own habits, it comes from the perspective of Australian travel painters.
This is a fantastic comparison video. Thanks for doing it. Since DS is watercolor, I'm assuming it is liftable/workable like other watercolors. Would love to see how DS combines with other colors.
I have only used watersoluble graphite in the form of a pencil that I got in a set of pencils from Daler-Rowney. I drew some lines on watercolor paper then took a wet brush to the lines. The lines didn't dissolve completely; and, the grey color that was produced was kind of flat. Maybe, you might call it matte. I did not like the results enough to add the watersoluble graphite to my stash of watercolor paints. This was a good demo. I did not realize that Daniel Smith had a watercolor graphite paint product.
I have the artgraph from viarco. I use it to add granulation to some watercolour mixtures. I didn’t know there are another options, so tahnk you so much for your information and testings :))
This was very helpful. I always liked DS Graphite from the swatch sheets and was curious about it. After watching your video I must say, I now want to try it out even more.
Great demo- thank you. I sometimes use “Nobel Dry Ink” They are round dried discs of sumi ink, similar to the Artgraph graphite, that dissolve with water. They are made in China. The ink dissolves easily and comes in a plastic case, so easy to use outside. Have you ever tried these? You can get a nice range of tone from deep darks to very light grey, like other sumi ink.
Sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know a trick to get back into an instagram account..? I somehow forgot my account password. I would love any tricks you can give me!
I've liked even just using non water-soluable powdered graphite in washes. I have to make sure the pieces get fixed so it doesn't all go away, but the sheen and granulation is really beautiful!
Thank you for the wonderful video! I have the Art Graf. I like it, but found difficult to control the concentration of graphite to apply. I really interested to try Sumi ink! I already sketch with a fountain Lamy pen with Lamy inks and waterbrush. But it wouldn't granulate like Sumi ink. Thank you for review!
What about graphite shine in this 3 samples? How intense and glossy it is? Anyway thanks, and someday try to review a sticks of "sausage" or "russian sausage" (this is a crayons for trituration and dissolving in water for creating a watercolor-like liquid, similar to chinese touche, but also avaliable for applying dry like pastels and later complete erasing with regular eraser) (it was increfible popular back in RI and USSR in academic drawing studies, but nowdays almost no one use it(((
@@alistewart3451 So yes it is the fully dried pan of DS graphite easy to dissolve? (Sometimes watercolour tube paints made of more unusual pigments can have difficulty dissolving easily for easy usage, which is why I'm curious here.)
@@snoozleblob Yes, I find it very easy to re-wet/dissolve. The water does not get absorbed into the paint, the way it does with the Art Graf product, but it does re-wet super easy. I know what you mean about some Earth pigments drying into impenetrable little bricks, but this is not one of them.
Was the sumi ink in traditional form or like a large kuretake pan? I have a Kremer pan of graphite and love iit, but maybe the Graf tin is better value and more usable for larger work? Very useful review. Thanks.
Thank you so much for making this video because I use these. I love them. I'm still learning how to use them in different ways so, again, thank you for this. Very helpful. New subber for your channel
hi Teoh! thank you for this review on this! i've always wondered what the main difference were between these products. i see you are using a Colorpro Series 2250 for this -- have these brushes been discontinued? i'm not having any luck finding them online, but they look like they handle beautifully!
@@teohyc thank you! i was actually able to find them from Straits Art Co - stumbled on an old blog you'd written about another one of their brushes and was able to find them there 👍
These are quite permanent when dry. More permanent than actual graphite pencils. You can still get some graphite on your finger if you rub hard enough though
So when using graphite one will need a black of some sort if they want that in their art. That's fair. One has to have white gouache or gel pen for white highlights if they're not exploiting the white of the paper.
I've been using the pan graphite for doing value studies and enjoy it both the extreme portability and tidiness as well as the finished result. I do wonder though if it's more wearing on brushes - should I have separate brushes for it?
Sumi ink seems to off my radar. It seems to granulate very well. Could you tell me which make you were using please. Is it waterproof or does it perform like watercolour? Thanks for the vid, interesting as ever.
I looked at all your ArtGraf watersoluble vid's, and you don't use it so well, dude !! We can have very deep blacks, and much softer gradients, etc !! ; )
I will practice to become am urban sketcher. Your videos and artworks inspires me to try it. Thank youuu.
Thanks for this video. I've been interested in the Art Graf product, but talked myself out of buying it because I have a tube of DS graphite. I took a small mint tin and filled it with the DS, and basically made my own easily portable graphite paint puck. I may have to pick up a bottle of the Liquid Pencil, tho. Love that sepia color!
This is such a helpful demonstration. I am terrible with watercolors, but love using graphite and sepia-tone "inks".
Very useful video Parka ! I love your second sketch (in the street). To sketch in grey, I use sometimes the 4 Graphitone you’ve presented in another video and I like it. We can rub wet brush on the pencil mine, very convenient when drawing outside.
Thank you Teoh, I love painting with graphite. Am currently using water soluble graphite pencils from Faber Castell, they are working well
This is a really helpful video! Thank you for making and sharing it! You always put out such helpful content!
There are various painting tools, and it doesn't matter whether it is good or bad. As long as it suits your own habits, it comes from the perspective of Australian travel painters.
This is a fantastic comparison video. Thanks for doing it. Since DS is watercolor, I'm assuming it is liftable/workable like other watercolors. Would love to see how DS combines with other colors.
I have only used watersoluble graphite in the form of a pencil that I got in a set of pencils from Daler-Rowney. I drew some lines on watercolor paper then took a wet brush to the lines. The lines didn't dissolve completely; and, the grey color that was produced was kind of flat. Maybe, you might call it matte. I did not like the results enough to add the watersoluble graphite to my stash of watercolor paints.
This was a good demo. I did not realize that Daniel Smith had a watercolor graphite paint product.
I have the artgraph from viarco. I use it to add granulation to some watercolour mixtures. I didn’t know there are another options, so tahnk you so much for your information and testings :))
This was very helpful. I always liked DS Graphite from the swatch sheets and was curious about it. After watching your video I must say, I now want to try it out even more.
Personally I prefer the cracked texture of Sumi inks over graphite. But I have only used the Faber castel pencil. You should try it too.
I would like to try! Thanks for sharing
Great demo- thank you. I sometimes use “Nobel Dry Ink” They are round dried discs of sumi ink, similar to the Artgraph graphite, that dissolve with water. They are made in China. The ink dissolves easily and comes in a plastic case, so easy to use outside. Have you ever tried these? You can get a nice range of tone from deep darks to very light grey, like other sumi ink.
Sorry to be so off topic but does any of you know a trick to get back into an instagram account..?
I somehow forgot my account password. I would love any tricks you can give me!
Now I want sumi ink, lol!
I've liked even just using non water-soluable powdered graphite in washes. I have to make sure the pieces get fixed so it doesn't all go away, but the sheen and granulation is really beautiful!
Thank you. This just came in my subscription box and I had no idea what to do with it.
Thank you for the wonderful video! I have the Art Graf. I like it, but found difficult to control the
concentration of graphite to apply. I really interested to try Sumi ink! I already sketch with a fountain Lamy pen with Lamy inks and waterbrush. But it wouldn't granulate like Sumi ink. Thank you for review!
Oh so much art and so little time!
What about graphite shine in this 3 samples? How intense and glossy it is? Anyway thanks, and someday try to review a sticks of "sausage" or "russian sausage" (this is a crayons for trituration and dissolving in water for creating a watercolor-like liquid, similar to chinese touche, but also avaliable for applying dry like pastels and later complete erasing with regular eraser) (it was increfible popular back in RI and USSR in academic drawing studies, but nowdays almost no one use it(((
Not much graphic shine from the DS watercolour surprisingly
Very interesting mix. Would love to try that on the next video in my channel! Thanks for the great advise 💛
Question, curious about other kinds of mixes you've tried on with graphite? Or maybe use in oil based blends?
One of the benefits from the liquid graphite was that it could be rubbed away once dry for highlights or to add pattern or texture. Did you try this?
I think it can't, the gum arabic it's holding it to the paper
@@bearshthebear2202 that's a shame, could have been very interesting! 🙌
Yeah once its dry I don't think it comes off. It's not like pencil for sure. :)
@@hansendesigns hopefully they can make a liquid pencil version that has these qualities, it would be amazing!
Try an electric eraser to see if you can achieve highlights. I haven't done it, but it's worth a shot.
Curious if the DS graphite in a decanted pan be just as easy to dissolve like the Artgraf graphite puck? Hmm.
Yes. I've done it, using a small mint tin.
@@alistewart3451 So yes it is the fully dried pan of DS graphite easy to dissolve? (Sometimes watercolour tube paints made of more unusual pigments can have difficulty dissolving easily for easy usage, which is why I'm curious here.)
@@snoozleblob Yes, I find it very easy to re-wet/dissolve. The water does not get absorbed into the paint, the way it does with the Art Graf product, but it does re-wet super easy. I know what you mean about some Earth pigments drying into impenetrable little bricks, but this is not one of them.
@@alistewart3451 That's great then. Thanks for answering my questions!
What about Faber Castell’s water-soluble graphite pencils? 😯
I've not used those so I can't say much. Some graphite pencils on paper is not easy to dissolve.
Teoh Yi Chie Aha, alright, thanks for replying!
The FC are some of the best w/s graphite pencils I've tried, they dissolve very well and the 8B is quite dark.
Was the sumi ink in traditional form or like a large kuretake pan? I have a Kremer pan of graphite and love iit, but maybe the Graf tin is better value and more usable for larger work? Very useful review. Thanks.
Sumi ink can come in bottles or as ink sticks that you have to grind yourself. Bottle ink is more convenient of course.
Thank you so much for making this video because I use these. I love them. I'm still learning how to use them in different ways so, again, thank you for this. Very helpful. New subber for your channel
Awesome video thanks Teoh!
Thank you!
hi Teoh! thank you for this review on this! i've always wondered what the main difference were between these products. i see you are using a Colorpro Series 2250 for this -- have these brushes been discontinued? i'm not having any luck finding them online, but they look like they handle beautifully!
Colorpro is a rebrand of ...DaVinci watercolour brushes if I remember correctly.
@@teohyc thank you! i was actually able to find them from Straits Art Co - stumbled on an old blog you'd written about another one of their brushes and was able to find them there 👍
how do Daniel Smith Graphite Gray mix with other color? would it kill the color like ivory black?
In a way yes
Are they erasable? I use General's sketch and wash pencils, and they're erasable.
These are quite permanent when dry. More permanent than actual graphite pencils. You can still get some graphite on your finger if you rub hard enough though
Do you have an affiliate link for the DS paint? I'd like to purchase it but also support you!
Thanks. The links here amzn.to/2qjMy0L
This reminds me of a video you did a few years ago - is it the same one?
It's a new video. But maybe I forgot about the other video and made it again. lol. Probably not since this is my first time using DS Graphite
Teoh Yi Chie I enjoy all of your videos no matter what! Thanks for all you do. I always learn from you.
Nice work 😉 😃
Very nice
So when using graphite one will need a black of some sort if they want that in their art. That's fair. One has to have white gouache or gel pen for white highlights if they're not exploiting the white of the paper.
I've been using the pan graphite for doing value studies and enjoy it both the extreme portability and tidiness as well as the finished result. I do wonder though if it's more wearing on brushes - should I have separate brushes for it?
Brush should be safe with normal use. It's still watercolour after all.
Thanks Teoh!
Sumi ink seems to off my radar. It seems to granulate very well. Could you tell me which make you were using please. Is it waterproof or does it perform like watercolour? Thanks for the vid, interesting as ever.
I looked at all your ArtGraf watersoluble vid's, and you don't use it so well, dude !! We can have very deep blacks, and much softer gradients, etc !!
; )
gracias.