I know this is old, but for anyone watching who wants to use Sierra, do yourself a favor and get her weapon upgraded just once (from 10 to 11). Its strength jumps from 53 all the way to 110, making her output double what you see here. And with the lightning rune attached she can rival your hero's attack.
1. I'm a bit sad Sierra doesn't get to actually wield the Moon Rune. I get that she doesn't want to become like Neclord, but it would of been cool as fuck. 2. Why is Karen's skin tone so different between her portrait and her sprite? lol
according to Wikipedia this should be the chronological order of the games: Suikoden IV (143 years before Suikoden V and 150 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden V (6 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden (3 years before Suikoden II) → Suikoden II (15 years before Suikoden III) → Suikoden III.
I thought Suikoden IV was still a decent game for the most part (though some of the sailing bits early on can be a bit much). It just has the misfortune of being called a Suikoden game and having that bar set so high. Suikoden V is great, but it does take some patience at the beginning. The pre-war story can take a little while, but it really does pay off and is well worth it.
I know Suikoden IV is the blacksheep of the Suikoden series, but it's still a really fun game. The sailing may be the one thing that turns people away, but a lot of people don't know you can sail faster by holding R1(running button as well) and you can turn in any direction really fast by opening the map, press X on any direction you please on the map and when exit the map, your ship faces that direction. Also, you can get Viki after you name your army, a few hours into the game.
I had heard that the developers originally intended to have Lucia join the 108 stars of destiny in Suikoden II, but that this idea was scrapped either due to time constraints or plot changes towards the end of the game. Which is a shame because I would have loved to have her playable here. Fortunately she gets her own time to shine in Suikoden III.
Thanks for the nod to S5 Lucah. Honestly in this game he's not much better than a Humphrey clone in gameplay, but if you look at the Richmond rumors you learn a lot more about him that foreshadows his role in S5. Since you played S1, here's a safe one: Georg was one of the 6 Generals from the first game. I presume he wasn't actually shown in the game because he would've KOed the entire party :)
I didn't think Suikoden IV was that bad. Thenb again it was the first Suikoden I played. Since I live in Europe... Suikoden, Suikoden II and Suikoden III was never released in europe so I've never had a chance to play them.I still own Suikoden IV and V however.
Close-ish to the end. Just a few more areas left. But there's a hell of a lot of story packed in. The plans are used to build a statue in the castle. After the statue is made you get a couple rare items.
As far as I know the Suikoden time line goes like this: Suikoden IV (143 years before Suikoden V and 150 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden V (6 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden (3 years before Suikoden II) → Suikoden II (15 years before Suikoden III) → Suikoden III
Excellent use of scrolls on the Bone Dragon. Suikoden games are primarily a game of resources, and scrolls let you be more confident that you can take on dangerous bosses without running out of spells too soon. It would be cool to see a Suiko 5 LP. I've heard many times that the writing in suiko 4 turned many people away from the series (I actually found that 3 was more of the problem, 4 just had some janky gameplay elements). But Suiko 5 is my favorite of the five main titles and is one of the best voice acted JRPGs of the PS2 era. Georg, Lorelai, Viki, Jeanne, and Killey all make appearances in 5 and pretty much all of the main gameplay elements are polished to their most perfect forms. Combat is more fluid, RPG elements from 2 and 3 are expanded dramatically to create the most diverse and customizable cast yet, War Battles have been improved to Real Time Strategy games with multiple fast moving parts and far less RNG struggles. And, most importantly, Suiko 5 has better Nanami. Sorry to the Suiko 2 fans, I don't make the rules. Suiko 2 is probably still the best written story from the series (you really can't top Luca Blight's arc and the culmination of the Riou and Jowy's struggle), but Suiko 5 is the most charming of the games. The characters are given so much greater range of expression thanks to ps2 and the voice acting in the game is strong throughout because none of the voice actors really phone it in, they seriously invest in their roles. And perhaps most importantly, 5 is the clearest expression that the Suikoden team could learn from things that didn't work (4) and seriously turn it around and make a better game with the knowledge they gained, it's the game that gives me confidence that if they brought the team together to do a modern take on the suiko games, I believe they could pull it off.
I know this sounds weird. But *sigh* can Luc come back. I always imagined Luc and Clive to be best buds or something, as they would just look at each other. Clive without Luc is just sad. #Cluc
Suikoden 4 happens about 100 years befor suikoden 1 (I got this from the internet) and suikoden 5 I don't quite know the time difference but it's before suikoden 1
I love the music to this game. Especially green hill. However, the ones I have listened to are in terrible quality. Anyone know where I can get better sounding ones?
easy, since it's structure is only bones and bones itself, a force of pressure (wind) can easily dismantle it, (of course, however, this is my thought)
also I know I have played too much Ocarina of Time since when Lucahjin said "Winged boots … Anyone? Does anyone want those?" and I said out loud "The Hero of time does." instead of just "The Hero does most likely" or "Riou does."
… okay I know I have played too much LoZ:OoT in my life now because I saw your comment and though "Wait what but this isn't a Legend of Zelda game? what is this nonsense about Iron Boots? Iron Boots are a Legend of Zelda thing." but then I watched the video and I understood because it all became clear. Hahahahah yeah I am a Zelda player by heart especially OoT since it was my first one I ever played.
I have a question, since the True Runes are an important recurring element, has the series ever toyed with the idea of what could happen if every bearer of a True Rune were to gather in a single place?
As second boss is being summoned, I was like "I hope it's like a four year old with awesome power." Turns out to be a badass boss of doom (Not spoiling it even though you prolly already know what it is. xD). "....Not a four year old, but I'll take it. :D"
A) Just use whoever, only show off other people in none important battles is my say. 4) How close to done is this game? Toaster) What are the plans for? You know, turtle plan, dragon plan, etc.?
I really liked the DS suikoden (I started playing afther watch some episodes of this LP), and its a good game, the only bad thing is that you can have only four people in your party
Timeline for 1-5 is... 4 -> 5 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3. 5 is roughly 20-30 years before 1 I think? It's closer to the start of 1 than 4 is, but 3 is the last in the timeline.
Hey Lucahjin, have you ever played or saw Sakura Wars? I was iffy about watching an LP of it, but it's actually pretty addicting as a sort-of visual novel/simulation.
Yeah, I only noticed it yesterday, can't make a promise that I will name a bird after you, but I am open to naming Pokemon after you tubers as miles is a common nickname I use. As far as nicknames go in just pick random names right now but in the future yes I would consider naming a Pokemon after you but I am still in shock that my nickname was used for a bird. The person named a bird speedy which I said I was fine with.
ever thought about using the Potch glitch? I found that it was useful. I have beaten the game, Not spoiling anything but it gets really hard. Thank you for the 53 Videos That had help me get though. Just because I had beaten the game though doesn't mean that I'm not going to watch.
I looked it up and it looks like Sierra does get a rune slot for her head at level 55. Since I haven't ever played this game I can't know for certain but you can take the internet's information on the subject how you will. ;)
Suikoden 5 is after 4 and shortly before 1, and Georg is a pretty important character in it. I don't like 3 and 4 much but 5 is really good, though not as good as 1 and 2 ...few games are.
You recorded this on Sunday morning instead of going to whatever religious service you could, jk, so many of us were playing Pokemon x or y that we were not paying attention, apparently someone named a bird after me and I only noticed it yesterday.
Please tell me you can get Yuber as a follower or star of destiny or an ally or something he looks like he would be a super strong character to use in any party
I know this is old, but for anyone watching who wants to use Sierra, do yourself a favor and get her weapon upgraded just once (from 10 to 11). Its strength jumps from 53 all the way to 110, making her output double what you see here. And with the lightning rune attached she can rival your hero's attack.
Ok thanks
1. I'm a bit sad Sierra doesn't get to actually wield the Moon Rune. I get that she doesn't want to become like Neclord, but it would of been cool as fuck.
2. Why is Karen's skin tone so different between her portrait and her sprite? lol
Whoo, now that was some boss right there! Don't worry, I can promise you you'll get your Iron Boots soon enough. Tee hee.
When I saw Karen in battle, I was like SHANTAE!!!! She reminds me of her.
Seeing Lucah voice Genso Suikogaiden here would be amazing!
according to Wikipedia this should be the chronological order of the games: Suikoden IV (143 years before Suikoden V and 150 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden V (6 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden (3 years before Suikoden II) → Suikoden II (15 years before Suikoden III) → Suikoden III.
Max Thanks; I was wondering about that.
"It's like we're beating up christmas!" :D Hahahahahahahahahahaha, nailed it.
I thought Suikoden IV was still a decent game for the most part (though some of the sailing bits early on can be a bit much). It just has the misfortune of being called a Suikoden game and having that bar set so high.
Suikoden V is great, but it does take some patience at the beginning. The pre-war story can take a little while, but it really does pay off and is well worth it.
Gorudo: They're not attacking us. We aren't going to be doing anything.
Also Gorudo: They're attacking us. We're not going to be doing anything.
I know Suikoden IV is the blacksheep of the Suikoden series, but it's still a really fun game. The sailing may be the one thing that turns people away, but a lot of people don't know you can sail faster by holding R1(running button as well) and you can turn in any direction really fast by opening the map, press X on any direction you please on the map and when exit the map, your ship faces that direction. Also, you can get Viki after you name your army, a few hours into the game.
He really should be on heal duty for this fight. With 5 people carrying scrolls, you won't need him to.
I had heard that the developers originally intended to have Lucia join the 108 stars of destiny in Suikoden II, but that this idea was scrapped either due to time constraints or plot changes towards the end of the game. Which is a shame because I would have loved to have her playable here. Fortunately she gets her own time to shine in Suikoden III.
Thanks for the nod to S5 Lucah. Honestly in this game he's not much better than a Humphrey clone in gameplay, but if you look at the Richmond rumors you learn a lot more about him that foreshadows his role in S5. Since you played S1, here's a safe one: Georg was one of the 6 Generals from the first game. I presume he wasn't actually shown in the game because he would've KOed the entire party :)
Mother Earth Rune us the best. The Second spell is EPIC
Canopy Defense!!!!!!!! is*
Weak to wind?
Good thing I brought Luc~
i seriously love lucahjins laugh
I didn't think Suikoden IV was that bad. Thenb again it was the first Suikoden I played. Since I live in Europe... Suikoden, Suikoden II and Suikoden III was never released in europe so I've never had a chance to play them.I still own Suikoden IV and V however.
Close-ish to the end. Just a few more areas left. But there's a hell of a lot of story packed in. The plans are used to build a statue in the castle. After the statue is made you get a couple rare items.
Yup, wanting that Visual Novel LP!
As far as I know the Suikoden time line goes like this: Suikoden IV (143 years before Suikoden V and 150 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden V (6 years before Suikoden) → Suikoden (3 years before Suikoden II) → Suikoden II (15 years before Suikoden III) → Suikoden III
Suikoden tierkreis was my first suikoden game and I absolutely loved it 3
Excellent use of scrolls on the Bone Dragon. Suikoden games are primarily a game of resources, and scrolls let you be more confident that you can take on dangerous bosses without running out of spells too soon.
It would be cool to see a Suiko 5 LP. I've heard many times that the writing in suiko 4 turned many people away from the series (I actually found that 3 was more of the problem, 4 just had some janky gameplay elements). But Suiko 5 is my favorite of the five main titles and is one of the best voice acted JRPGs of the PS2 era. Georg, Lorelai, Viki, Jeanne, and Killey all make appearances in 5 and pretty much all of the main gameplay elements are polished to their most perfect forms. Combat is more fluid, RPG elements from 2 and 3 are expanded dramatically to create the most diverse and customizable cast yet, War Battles have been improved to Real Time Strategy games with multiple fast moving parts and far less RNG struggles.
And, most importantly, Suiko 5 has better Nanami. Sorry to the Suiko 2 fans, I don't make the rules.
Suiko 2 is probably still the best written story from the series (you really can't top Luca Blight's arc and the culmination of the Riou and Jowy's struggle), but Suiko 5 is the most charming of the games. The characters are given so much greater range of expression thanks to ps2 and the voice acting in the game is strong throughout because none of the voice actors really phone it in, they seriously invest in their roles. And perhaps most importantly, 5 is the clearest expression that the Suikoden team could learn from things that didn't work (4) and seriously turn it around and make a better game with the knowledge they gained, it's the game that gives me confidence that if they brought the team together to do a modern take on the suiko games, I believe they could pull it off.
Altho, u forgot to note that some stars of destiny can't fight in battle, sooooo...
Awesome game so far Luca. Lovin it.
I know this sounds weird. But *sigh* can Luc come back. I always imagined Luc and Clive to be best buds or something, as they would just look at each other. Clive without Luc is just sad. #Cluc
2 Stars of Destiny, but Leknaat appears in all of them too
Don't apologize for the length of last episode -- that was epic! :) I loved it!
Suikoden 4 happens about 100 years befor suikoden 1 (I got this from the internet) and suikoden 5 I don't quite know the time difference but it's before suikoden 1
I love the music to this game. Especially green hill. However, the ones I have listened to are in terrible quality. Anyone know where I can get better sounding ones?
Cmdrduo02us Friggin Reminiscence man, that song is amazing!
easy, since it's structure is only bones and bones itself, a force of pressure (wind) can easily dismantle it, (of course, however, this is my thought)
also I know I have played too much Ocarina of Time since when Lucahjin said "Winged boots … Anyone? Does anyone want those?" and I said out loud "The Hero of time does." instead of just "The Hero does most likely" or "Riou does."
Suikoden V is awesome. You should definitely play it, Lucah. It's one of my top 10 favorite games.
you see Lucia a lot in Suikoden 3. She's not just in a chapter or 2.
… okay I know I have played too much LoZ:OoT in my life now because I saw your comment and though "Wait what but this isn't a Legend of Zelda game? what is this nonsense about Iron Boots? Iron Boots are a Legend of Zelda thing." but then I watched the video and I understood because it all became clear. Hahahahah yeah I am a Zelda player by heart especially OoT since it was my first one I ever played.
When you say about going to play Suikoden V I actually kind of hoping too, but it's 7 years now lol.
I count three: Leknaat, Viki and Jeane.
I'm not so sure but I think Sierra is the only one to access the last spell of Darkness rune. will check
I have a question, since the True Runes are an important recurring element, has the series ever toyed with the idea of what could happen if every bearer of a True Rune were to gather in a single place?
When Lucah said "its that woman"
I said "its that bitch"
You've probably heard this a lot, but Georg is called George in Suikoden V
As second boss is being summoned, I was like "I hope it's like a four year old with awesome power."
Turns out to be a badass boss of doom (Not spoiling it even though you prolly already know what it is. xD). "....Not a four year old, but I'll take it. :D"
you're awesome lucah
Holy crap Luca! You destroyed that boss
Genso Suikoden is awesome I always wanted someone to do something like a voice over of it. Can never find stuff about it
I assume that whatever path was chosen earlier for the previous battle will all end with you coming to Greenhill afterwards.
A bit of trivia, there are only 2 character's that appear in all of the main Suikoden games.
Lucia is such a great character
A) Just use whoever, only show off other people in none important battles is my say.
4) How close to done is this game?
Toaster) What are the plans for? You know, turtle plan, dragon plan, etc.?
I think Luc needs to come back. I miss him. The bone dragon would have been toast if he was in the party. PLEASE.
I really liked the DS suikoden (I started playing afther watch some episodes of this LP), and its a good game, the only bad thing is that you can have only four people in your party
Omg! Karen is so cool!!!!! Love her dancing
Blind Run Suikoden 5! ((Yes, I'm still saying it :P))
I don't know exactly why, because there can be a few reasons, but most likely an equipped item.
Perhaps Karen is more of a slow and sensual dancer than the quick twerker dancer?
Also Suikoden Tactics is pretty good, though obviously a different kind of game from the main series.
Timeline for 1-5 is...
4 -> 5 -> 1 -> 2 -> 3.
5 is roughly 20-30 years before 1 I think? It's closer to the start of 1 than 4 is, but 3 is the last in the timeline.
Yes he is in Suikoden 5 and he is godlike in 5. 4 is before 1 and 5 is before everyone of them.
There are a lot of important things to do between now and the attack on Muse... like a cookoff?
In Suikoden V, the voice actors pronounce Georg as "George."
It's Bonetail!!!
shes only really played 1 2 and 3, but she said she might lp those games, but much later.
Hey Lucahjin, have you ever played or saw Sakura Wars? I was iffy about watching an LP of it, but it's actually pretty addicting as a sort-of visual novel/simulation.
Yeah, I only noticed it yesterday, can't make a promise that I will name a bird after you, but I am open to naming Pokemon after you tubers as miles is a common nickname I use. As far as nicknames go in just pick random names right now but in the future yes I would consider naming a Pokemon after you but I am still in shock that my nickname was used for a bird. The person named a bird speedy which I said I was fine with.
Yes!!! I got my suikoden fix. I'll be good for another day :)
Well, the fans demanded otherwise, so...
ever thought about using the Potch glitch? I found that it was useful. I have beaten the game, Not spoiling anything but it gets really hard. Thank you for the 53 Videos That had help me get though.
Just because I had beaten the game though doesn't mean that I'm not going to watch.
suikoden 5 pronounces Georg's name as George
Lucha I highly highly recommend suikoden 5. I agree that 4 was meh to say!
Lucah, what would you say if I told you that something in this video reminds me of Paper Mario: TTYD? Specifically, the Pit of 100 Trials?
Suikoden is awesome.
I looked it up and it looks like Sierra does get a rune slot for her head at level 55. Since I haven't ever played this game I can't know for certain but you can take the internet's information on the subject how you will. ;)
...Why is a Dragon made only of bones weak to wind!? It should just go through the skinless gaps!
Yuber seems awsome.
No problem.
Wooooooooooow, Apple, DAT typo. Jesus, that's awkward.
Good thing we conserved our magic...?
Suikoden IV isn't all that bad. Granted it's not as good as the others, but it's not nearly as bad as I was told.
I prefer Luc to Karen. Bring him back maybe? :) Unless there's a better magic user coming soon of course!
I think they pronounce his name "George" in Suikoden 5 (since there is limited voice-acting)
I love the first greenhill theme the second one is so POOPY!
Oh please do the voice novel! That would be fantastic!
Suikoden 5 is after 4 and shortly before 1, and Georg is a pretty important character in it.
I don't like 3 and 4 much but 5 is really good, though not as good as 1 and 2 ...few games are.
Yuber reminds me of Siegfried/Nightmare from Soul Calibur.
So, back to the castle for a cook-off next esipode?
I really wish Lucah would just use who she wants in her party >.
You recorded this on Sunday morning instead of going to whatever religious service you could, jk, so many of us were playing Pokemon x or y that we were not paying attention, apparently someone named a bird after me and I only noticed it yesterday.
Play with the team you want Lucah...you've taken enough requests.
I don't think it's much of a spoiler? Lucia kinda appears within the first few minutes of Hugo's chapter, and maybe within an hour of Chris's chapter.
I like Luciea's hat :3
i know this has been happening for quite a few episodes but why does the party sometimes heal after a turn ends?
So call ing George George, like the MM Bosé?
Oh yeah, that's what I meant.
Look on the bright side Lucah.
A shit-ton of charactors, and no-one cares about Millie.
PS: You should try Grandia 2 (and maybe 3)
Please tell me you can get Yuber as a follower or star of destiny or an ally or something he looks like he would be a super strong character to use in any party
I mean there isn;t much of a spoiler because she appears to early in the game anyway?
15:01 dat reminence music
I agree
Did Yuber really just mega-man warp away?
Hey lucah, is that thing on lucia's head her hair jessie from pokemon style? or is it just a really weird hat?
I'm pretty sure it's her hair.