A most cheerful channel, always a treat. The best news is if there's a growing market at the bottom end of the price range, it must mean more people are getting started with fountain pens. They are certainly addictive. I don't feel ready to address the world unless I have a fountain pen in my shirt pocket.
Doodlebud shows a way to repair the little pieces on your feed, because he damaged his as well. He also says that the recommendations for the pen, strongly warns against disassembly if any kind.
I knew you’d look at this one eventually! Having lost out on a couple of vintage Omas’, I went for this one a few weeks ago just to have at least a look-a-like in my collection. Alas the seller was out of the color/trim combo I wanted, and so far haven’t found it elsewhere. I’m sure it’ll be restocked, but it was disappointing to not only miss out on hundreds-dollars Omas’ but now also thirty buck rip-offs 😭😆🤨 Thanks for all of your videos, Vincenzo
The vintage Omas 360 Magnum is my grail pen, and someday I may get it. I was hyped about this clone, but after seeing the reviews and peoples' reactions, I'm going to wait for my grail.
The 360 Magnum is quite a bit bigger than the V60, which is the same size as the standard 360. Also, while OMAS' cotton resin looks pretty mundane it does feel like celluloid - warmer and softer than the more common acrylic. For a grail I think the original OMAS is the way to go, but if one needs/wants the triangular section, and isn't willing to pay the price of a 360, or risk loosing/damaging one, the V60 looks like a perfectly adequate substitute.
Hi Vincenzo! Thanks for reviewing a pen I have been looking forward to! I too, ordered the black with gold trim version with Fine nib, but it hasn't arrived yet. I've been wanting a pen similar to the Omas 360 ever since I saw Doodlebud's review of his Omas. Hopefully I will like mine better than you did yours. Architect nibs are an unusual proposition. I've been trying to get one to work for a few weeks and they are quite hard to deal with. These nibs were originally designed more for printing than for writing, but one should be able to write with. Sometimes you DO get a bad nib on some of these Chinese pens. My Asvine V-126 had a really tight nib. Writes more like a medium than a fine now, but I did have to do quite a bit of work on it to get it where I wanted. I have had the same problem with a Jinhao nib as well.
Waiting now for my V60 to arrive in a few days with a Majohn F or EF nib at USD 23, which seems to be the normal retail price in China. One thing I hope for is that the piston knob will be sturdy and not wobbling around. Inkquiring minds already hated the pen due to this issue, Doodlebud didn't encounter this problem. And our french friend was also quite satisfied with the V60 in his review. I am fascinated by triangular shaped FP's and glad that Majohn came out with a "poor mans" version, compared to Pineider, OMAS and other brands. 1 year ago I also had a bad experience with a Lemon long knife nib, since then I always disregard those offerings, which are driving up the price unnecessarily. At least in my book.
I have an Armondo Simoni Club Triangolo in Green Autumn Celluloid, but instead of a piston filler it's the Chilton style filling system with an ink sac. It has a no.8 14k. gold nib as well. I love that pen. It's a copy off the Omas 360. The only difference is the filling system and on the grip section they rounded it off instead of making it triangular. I might get one of these to take to work as a work pen. It holds a good amount, is cheap enough to not worry much about, and you can swap nibs in it fairly easy, and it's a snap cap. I'd like to get the maroon and gold but they don't seem to have them in anywhere or they are already sold out. The Black or white with gold might be my next option. Great video Vincenzo!
I have a slimmer Lamy Ideos which I like very much for that three sided shape. The Pineider was styled from the WW2 German ME262 jet fighter. I have ordered a V60 Black/gold today with a fine nib. The 1.1 stub was sold out. Chinese fine nibs usually write well and aren’t scratchy. It doesn’t look like a tool comes in the box. I paid $60 Australian 🇦🇺 dollars.
Based on my experience with 360's, combining the triangular section with a stub nib requires a near perfect adjustment of the nib rotation (as Vincenzo did with his black V60); whereas, standard EF/F/M/B nibs are much more forgiving.
A great review. Detailed and with that personal touch that I like... Regarding the triangular shape, I'm not convinced at all. I prefer classic "tubular" shapes. Although many appreciate them, I can't write well, for example, with a Lamy Safari or a Lamy 2000 because of the shape of the grip area..... Regarding the Architect points, I think that more than getting used to them, it depends on each person's handwriting. For my handwriting, which is flatter, they are delicious points...it depends on each person. Greetings.
I'm not sure if you've ever handled a real OMAS 360, but the cotton resin ones do have a very soft and light plasticky feel. It doesn't feel very substantial at all. I wouldn't be surprised if the MaJohn V60 was just like it in feel.
Thank you for the review. Have you considered an oblique nib to accommodate your writing style? I made an oblique stub from a Noodlers Ahab standard nib. Fun project but might not be everyone’s cup of Earl Grey. Did you experience any flow problems with the slightly misaligned nib? Gratsi.
I don’t have a problem with other nibs such as fine, medium, broad stubs. It’s only with the architect type nibs that I cannot have a great writing experience
I saw doodle bud review of the pen and he simply removes the nib and feed by pulling it out and does all his maintenance that way so I think I’m going to stick to that method
@@fountainpentherapy Wow! Mine was a bargain at $400{USD}. It is a wonderful pen but i would not pay the asking price now. The pros outweigh the cons but not by a lot. I just saw a Delta DolceVita Oversize in blue with gold trim that is a piston filler and 1 of 25 made for well under 1000 usd. I am tempted but I already have the iconic Oversize DolceVita.
Thank you again for an informative and detailed review. I have this pen in my shopping cart but haven't purchased it. I have an Omas 360 ballpoint and while I cannot afford the original fountain pen, I thought this pen would be a nice compliment to it. I generally do not like triangular grip pens. However this is different as the sides are convex, or rounded outwards and it may be more to my liking than the Lamy Safari. As far as the cheapness of the plastic, I have an Omas Ogiva that feels the same way as your Omas. I do own a Milord with the Arco Celluloid that is superb, so it could be just what was available. I am surprised at the standard Moonman nib not working well. The nibs recently have been excellent. It could have been the installation of the nib onto the pen that caused the tightness of the times. Is it worth the money? Perhaps I would be better off spending mine on the Asvine J16.
As you mention, the rotation in how you hold your pen is always going to give you trouble with architect nibs(and italic nibs). You have quite a high writing angle to boot, which will exacerbate the problem even more. If you still really want to find a nib with natural line variation that works for your hand, the only thing I can think of that might be worth giving a shot is an oblique nib; specifically a left foot oblique in your case.
I thought about that I have no problems with the other nibs be they find medium broad and especially stubs even italic stubs. The problem comes in with architect, nibs for some reason and perhaps the reasons you give explain things.
I bought the black and yellow in gold trim with the lemon long knife and polished medium nib. Both pens did not write straight out of the box. I had to open up the tines and work on the nibs to get them to write. They’re not great writers and I’ll probably swap out the nibs at some point. I can’t say that I’m impressed with them.
I was intrigued by this V60 when you first mentioned it in one of your recaps and now I am less so. Maybe the nibs were a bit unlucky for you. I only have one long blade nib from Hongdian (in their N23 model) and I did not really like the line it produced - way too thick in every direction, so I only used it after i got it and not since.
The pen is a nice pan. You should not be discouraged by the nibs. In fact because they are so cheap it’s a great opportunity for you to swap nibs, like a cheap keigalu nib and you’ll enjoy it.
@@fountainpentherapy No, I am not tbh. I have couple of Majohns and I have been very pleased with their nibs. The triangular shape takes some learning for sure. I might give it a try this year, but for now, I have ordered a Hongdian A6. I have seen your review on that one, so I am curious to try it myself.
This is actually the P136 wrench. I think it's the same housing as the P136, but they glued it so it wouldn't be possible to misalign it with the triangle. I bought a Moonman nib 1.1 stub from them and it came with the housing and the feed, but I bought it to put in another pen. And the feed is exactly the same as the V60.
A great video,I have mojohn m 800 in fine gold plated new pen the Raven piston fill in fine order exfine from the company,order from Goulet pens worlds darkness ink and twisbi blue in bronze in trim nib exfine frank in Oswego,ill
A most cheerful channel, always a treat. The best news is if there's a growing market at the bottom end of the price range, it must mean more people are getting started with fountain pens.
They are certainly addictive. I don't feel ready to address the world unless I have a fountain pen in my shirt pocket.
Doodlebud shows a way to repair the little pieces on your feed, because he damaged his as well. He also says that the recommendations for the pen, strongly warns against disassembly if any kind.
I saw his video and yes, I ended up doing the same thing with my fins on the feed
I knew you’d look at this one eventually! Having lost out on a couple of vintage Omas’, I went for this one a few weeks ago just to have at least a look-a-like in my collection. Alas the seller was out of the color/trim combo I wanted, and so far haven’t found it elsewhere. I’m sure it’ll be restocked, but it was disappointing to not only miss out on hundreds-dollars Omas’ but now also thirty buck rip-offs 😭😆🤨
Thanks for all of your videos, Vincenzo
The vintage Omas 360 Magnum is my grail pen, and someday I may get it. I was hyped about this clone, but after seeing the reviews and peoples' reactions, I'm going to wait for my grail.
The 360 Magnum is quite a bit bigger than the V60, which is the same size as the standard 360. Also, while OMAS' cotton resin looks pretty mundane it does feel like celluloid - warmer and softer than the more common acrylic. For a grail I think the original OMAS is the way to go, but if one needs/wants the triangular section, and isn't willing to pay the price of a 360, or risk loosing/damaging one, the V60 looks like a perfectly adequate substitute.
Hi Vincenzo! Thanks for reviewing a pen I have been looking forward to! I too, ordered the black with gold trim version with Fine nib, but it hasn't arrived yet. I've been wanting a pen similar to the Omas 360 ever since I saw Doodlebud's review of his Omas. Hopefully I will like mine better than you did yours. Architect nibs are an unusual proposition. I've been trying to get one to work for a few weeks and they are quite hard to deal with. These nibs were originally designed more for printing than for writing, but one should be able to write with. Sometimes you DO get a bad nib on some of these Chinese pens. My Asvine V-126 had a really tight nib. Writes more like a medium than a fine now, but I did have to do quite a bit of work on it to get it where I wanted. I have had the same problem with a Jinhao nib as well.
Waiting now for my V60 to arrive in a few days with a Majohn F or EF nib at USD 23, which seems to be the normal retail price in China.
One thing I hope for is that the piston knob will be sturdy and not wobbling around. Inkquiring minds already hated the pen due to this issue, Doodlebud didn't encounter this problem. And our french friend was also quite satisfied with the V60 in his review.
I am fascinated by triangular shaped FP's and glad that Majohn came out with a "poor mans" version, compared to Pineider, OMAS and other brands.
1 year ago I also had a bad experience with a Lemon long knife nib, since then I always disregard those offerings, which are driving up the price unnecessarily. At least in my book.
Great video Vincenzo!
I have an Armondo Simoni Club Triangolo in Green Autumn Celluloid, but instead of a piston filler it's the Chilton style filling system with an ink sac. It has a no.8 14k. gold nib as well. I love that pen. It's a copy off the Omas 360. The only difference is the filling system and on the grip section they rounded it off instead of making it triangular. I might get one of these to take to work as a work pen. It holds a good amount, is cheap enough to not worry much about, and you can swap nibs in it fairly easy, and it's a snap cap. I'd like to get the maroon and gold but they don't seem to have them in anywhere or they are already sold out. The Black or white with gold might be my next option. Great video Vincenzo!
I’m glad you found the video helpful.
I have a slimmer Lamy Ideos which I like very much for that three sided shape. The Pineider was styled from the WW2 German ME262 jet fighter. I have ordered a V60 Black/gold today with a fine nib. The 1.1 stub was sold out. Chinese fine nibs usually write well and aren’t scratchy. It doesn’t look like a tool comes in the box. I paid $60 Australian 🇦🇺 dollars.
Based on my experience with 360's, combining the triangular section with a stub nib requires a near perfect adjustment of the nib rotation (as Vincenzo did with his black V60); whereas, standard EF/F/M/B nibs are much more forgiving.
A great review. Detailed and with that personal touch that I like... Regarding the triangular shape, I'm not convinced at all. I prefer classic "tubular" shapes. Although many appreciate them, I can't write well, for example, with a Lamy Safari or a Lamy 2000 because of the shape of the grip area..... Regarding the Architect points, I think that more than getting used to them, it depends on each person's handwriting. For my handwriting, which is flatter, they are delicious points...it depends on each person. Greetings.
Love the yellow color.
I'm not sure if you've ever handled a real OMAS 360, but the cotton resin ones do have a very soft and light plasticky feel. It doesn't feel very substantial at all. I wouldn't be surprised if the MaJohn V60 was just like it in feel.
Thank you for the review. Have you considered an oblique nib to accommodate your writing style? I made an oblique stub from a Noodlers Ahab standard nib. Fun project but might not be everyone’s cup of Earl Grey. Did you experience any flow problems with the slightly misaligned nib? Gratsi.
I don’t have a problem with other nibs such as fine, medium, broad stubs. It’s only with the architect type nibs that I cannot have a great writing experience
i think you need the visconti nib tool that will also remove the omas 360 nib.
I saw doodle bud review of the pen and he simply removes the nib and feed by pulling it out and does all his maintenance that way so I think I’m going to stick to that method
A blade & Long Knife are quite different! I find I love the Blade ( true Architect ) better than the Long Knife ( Naginata ) nibs.
thank you for the V60 review. It did make me glad I have the OMAS 360.
I was curious so I went on eBay and they now go for thousands of dollars. You can get a roller ball or a ball pen for 1000.
@@fountainpentherapy Wow! Mine was a bargain at $400{USD}. It is a wonderful pen but i would not pay the asking price now. The pros outweigh the cons but not by a lot. I just saw a Delta DolceVita Oversize in blue with gold trim that is a piston filler and 1 of 25 made for well under 1000 usd. I am tempted but I already have the iconic Oversize DolceVita.
Thank you again for an informative and detailed review. I have this pen in my shopping cart but haven't purchased it. I have an Omas 360 ballpoint and while I cannot afford the original fountain pen, I thought this pen would be a nice compliment to it.
I generally do not like triangular grip pens. However this is different as the sides are convex, or rounded outwards and it may be more to my liking than the Lamy Safari.
As far as the cheapness of the plastic, I have an Omas Ogiva that feels the same way as your Omas. I do own a Milord with the Arco Celluloid that is superb, so it could be just what was available.
I am surprised at the standard Moonman nib not working well. The nibs recently have been excellent. It could have been the installation of the nib onto the pen that caused the tightness of the times.
Is it worth the money? Perhaps I would be better off spending mine on the Asvine J16.
The J16 is a great pen, but I do think the V60 is worth considering too.
Great review Vincenzo,my black & gold V60 is on its way.Its the only chance I’ll get of owning a 360 as the price jump when they stopped making them.
It’s crazy. I was curious I checked on eBay and the real ones are going for thousands of dollars even the roller ball is going for 1000
As you mention, the rotation in how you hold your pen is always going to give you trouble with architect nibs(and italic nibs). You have quite a high writing angle to boot, which will exacerbate the problem even more. If you still really want to find a nib with natural line variation that works for your hand, the only thing I can think of that might be worth giving a shot is an oblique nib; specifically a left foot oblique in your case.
I thought about that I have no problems with the other nibs be they find medium broad and especially stubs even italic stubs. The problem comes in with architect, nibs for some reason and perhaps the reasons you give explain things.
I bought the black and yellow in gold trim with the lemon long knife and polished medium nib. Both pens did not write straight out of the box. I had to open up the tines and work on the nibs to get them to write. They’re not great writers and I’ll probably swap out the nibs at some point. I can’t say that I’m impressed with them.
Like you, I had the same problem I swapped both nibs with Yowo nibs and now they’re both daily writers
I was intrigued by this V60 when you first mentioned it in one of your recaps and now I am less so. Maybe the nibs were a bit unlucky for you. I only have one long blade nib from Hongdian (in their N23 model) and I did not really like the line it produced - way too thick in every direction, so I only used it after i got it and not since.
The pen is a nice pan. You should not be discouraged by the nibs. In fact because they are so cheap it’s a great opportunity for you to swap nibs, like a cheap keigalu nib and you’ll enjoy it.
@@fountainpentherapy No, I am not tbh. I have couple of Majohns and I have been very pleased with their nibs. The triangular shape takes some learning for sure. I might give it a try this year, but for now, I have ordered a Hongdian A6. I have seen your review on that one, so I am curious to try it myself.
This is actually the P136 wrench. I think it's the same housing as the P136, but they glued it so it wouldn't be possible to misalign it with the triangle. I bought a Moonman nib 1.1 stub from them and it came with the housing and the feed, but I bought it to put in another pen. And the feed is exactly the same as the V60.
Thanks for the information, very interesting!
A great video,I have mojohn m 800 in fine gold plated new pen the Raven piston fill in fine order exfine from the company,order from Goulet pens worlds darkness ink and twisbi blue in bronze in trim nib exfine frank in Oswego,ill
Acrylic blue
J,attend le mien , j'ai passe ma commande la semaine derniere...
Laisse-moi savoir si tes plumes sont aussi mauvais que les miens
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It may have had more information than filling instruction.
Great Vid. Thanks. The pen would not be for me.
I don´t like Majohn long knife nibs either. Good to know that it´s not me.
Ah, non avevo capito che sei italiano...
Adesso sono canadese però sono d’origine italiana nato a Sorrento