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If I painted something like this I’d be mad at myself- literally what I was thinking but you took the words out of my mouth, again no hate graff is graff and being up is different for different people, respect as usual Mike Manchester 🇬🇧
antisyle is and has always been fire. it may look childish or "purposefully bad" but the truth is that if you were to try to replicate the style you would not be able to. It is always clear when a piece is antistyle, versus when it is simply done by someone inexperienced. That in my opinion justifies its existence as a worthy style. Treats or eatcops are both some examples of super talented writers who do antistyle. Jtea also crushes with a mix of traditional straight letters and antistlye pieces. Baltimore is full of tasteful antistyle. You just gotta look at it from a different perspective.
Most of this stuff isn't even antistyle. Obese, Regae and Stole are classic, funky styles, similar to what's seen a lot in western europe, Berlin, Spain etc. The ICBM stuff is anti, but Wombat is one of the most up in NYC rn and has a crazy funky, acid, heavy metal style so deserves respect, all those kids like carl,dip etc, put in more work then the salty people hating. The style may have popped up recently in NYC but people like Clint149, NUG, Renks etc have been painting like this outside of America for 20+ years. Spy33 in the video aka Rambo went hard in NYC for a long time with anti style also, as did neck etc. The anti hate never made any sense to me, this stuff is closer to 70's/80's train graff then the stuff these mega traditional old heads do anyway, the people who do "real graff" make shit that looks nothing like old school stuff either, so in a way this is more authentic.
A mix between writers wanting a unique style and not wanting the general public to enjoy it and this is what you get. I dig the dollar can, stock cap style.
Not even close. I smell a non-new Yorker with opinions. Anti style is a cope for people who refuse to develop style but believe they need it. Graff has absolutely nothing to do with style. It is about getting up, not style. Dudes that think they have to cope with being non-artist writers by calling their shit antistyle are mostly weirdos that never understood graff to begin with. Beleiving you need style to be up is something boys from random places who grew up on the nerd fantasies sold in "style wars" beleive, not the people who came up being schooled by other writers.
Thanks for this tour. I recognize Aneko. In 2020, I consistently filmed trains daily from the backyard and have continued ever since. Occasional hipster, anti-styles among the standard styles. Some I enjoy just for a change of pace
I appreciate your commentary. I literally laughed out loud when you said “if I was to actually paint something like this I’d be mad at myself at the end of the day” I can appreciate all graffiti styles I’m just definitely too particular to what my mind’s eye sees, my geometry obsession, and growing up in the 90’s with hip hop and graff. Rick McCrank haha I’m a choosy guy Cool vid. Thanks.
you all should visit Czech Republic one day especially capital city Prague. 80% of scene is just antistylers and you cant even say anything bad because its all people who are drawing like 20+ years.
@@TheLifePhoenix really? idk i like antistyle when it has interesting and logic shapes, when its something different and people know what they are doing. but most of the antistyle looks like nursery school stuff. at least here in CZ
a lot of this stuff on these walls remind me of the stuff out of the Bay and the Pacific Northwest. as an older head who started painting around the late 90's, i HATED anti-style stuff until quite recently. it's way harder to accomplish that sense of 'not giving a fuck' than i initially realized. guys like Cancer Carl etc. RIP
Portland Oregon has a big abandoned building like that called Louis Dreyfus Co grain silos on the waterfront. Lots of graffiti. Julia Louis Dreyfus of Seinfeld's family used to own it. It's right across from where the Portland Trail Blazers play.
@ffitiWanderersome EXCELLENT yards and cuts to wander around Portland OR still. it's getting yuppified rapidly though. i actually didn't know Elaine's family owned that place lmao
I mean Style is Style. Style is subjective. But Graffiti is not merely Art. There is an undeniable element of Craft involved. That's what makes someone a toy... level of Can Control, Understanding of Traditional Graphic Design, Typography & familiarity with Media. You can be Left Field all day. Some of the best Writes always have been. But if you don't understand the basics of Geometry as it applies to letters, the basics of Color Theory & I suppose, most importantly... the Culture & the History, you're a toy.
It’s interesting to note that ‘Antistyle’ isn’t a particularly new thing. Starting in the Scandinavian countries in the 90’s and progressing into what we see today. I find it fascinating that it’s actually really hard to do an anti style piece after conditioning myself for the last 30 odd years to paint perfect straight lines and vector style pieces. In this age of ‘Graffiti Industry’ guys are still seeking out doing pieces with stolen hardware paint and stock caps from oven cleaner and avoiding the graffiti store completely. The general public probably would never commission an antistyle writer to create an artwork on their building or whatever so in that case these guys are retaining the essence of what graffiti or writing was all about in the late 60’s. No frills style. There’s a few guys that stand out for me most notably ‘saeio megawizard’ from Paris rest in peace. Wombat from New York also has an interesting style and she’s up a lot. Interesting you can tell the anti style guys that are really good at art and retain some hidden style versus toys doing antistyle which is a paradox. I think Picasso said it took him 50 years to learn to paint like a child again and strangely it’s not easy.
4:45 i mean it def exploded around then, but antistyle type shit has been around for a while. bunch of crews from san francisco have been on this style for over a decade (BKF & DRUGS crews), and europe has had some nasty stuff for a while now. its always been around, but its definitely a younger persons style, so i def think the pandemic opened up an opportunity for some of the new generation to try graff out
@@stinkyboy69514 yeah, didn’t mention him specifically because i thought he was in DRUGS crew and i was mainly just listing out groups, but hes got some crazy shit. Saeio (R.I.P.) from Paris is also legendary
It amazes its even called anything but toy due to how it looks like the work of someone who is inexperienced. Much of this comes from those trying to pursue a retro style or throwback style from the 60's and 70's, however due to social media, those who aren't as successful at it, get the exposure that ordinarily wouldnt have. Back in days in NYC, much of this would have been gone over by more experienced people without hesitation. Indeed its a matter of opinion, but no self-respecting writer would dub themselves an anti style writer because what you do is write, you do style Writing. Anti style originally breaks from stylistic norms like an abstract but many of these arent that. The controversy is the exposure of those who document or thrist for likes on IG and elsewhere share these things over those who are displaying some really innovating can control or style writing. You can't be a certain age doing something like this. By age 20 is when your style if kept at it, reaches a level of development where your lines are getting clean and what you're doing is well define, unfortunately many of these who are doing this are in their late 20s and mid 30s
I never actually got to know any of these “anti style” writers… I just assume brand new art school kids… early 20’s… roomate situation… parents pay their rent 🤣
@@colrle95 yeah true,but not by going backwards style wise,it needs to evolve to something higher and better,this would only serve to make everything we have built over the years
Well, it takes some art mindset to create anti style stuff, it might seem like kid can do it but if you dont have talent then you cant. it evolved, to more art thing. tbh, i dont think creating 3d is end game.. i think if youre capable of create good antistyle piece thats some high end art.
@@rosjasssI hear this all the time and people say writers who do anti style can actually piece and have a clean handstyle but they choose to do anti style but I can’t think of one writer that does anti style that can also do proper graffiti. Idk maybe I’m wrong and they are secretly talented but when I see anti style all I see is a failed attempt at abstract art by someone who clearly doesn’t know the fundamentals.
Anything on a wall claiming to be graffiti needs to follow the fundamentals and have at least some quality effort put into it. Otherwise it's toy shit like a lot the stuff in this vid minus the Obese piece.
First, imo one should do graff purely for themselves and their own gratification. But from a purely aesthetic skill oriented standpoint.... In an an age where dissent/disagreement is being widely suppressed alot of bs can fly that would not have been able to previously. The result is that views become skewed. Social media -> ppl have a platform who otherwise wouldn't -> less disagreement -> more "positive" feedback -> more people onboard with a skewed ideology -> cycle is fed repeats and gets more vicious. That said, with some of these works one can see the can control is there, but shit is just unnerving overall to look at imo. Regarding platforms, that of the old was trains, walls, rolldowns, trucks, outside canvas etc(not social media at all) where as if shit was wack it got gone over by some thing better, or just ragged. Things used to be very very different, things change with the times; the world in most facets is on an accelerated swirl down the shitter, so yea there you have it.
If I painted something like this I’d be mad at myself- literally what I was thinking but you took the words out of my mouth, again no hate graff is graff and being up is different for different people, respect as usual Mike Manchester 🇬🇧
Another banger. "If I was to paint something like this I'd be mad at myself at the end of the day" lol
That was a funny sneak diss.
Anti style is very odd like you say I’d never be happy some execute it well but to me it has to look purposeful not just badly executed
I'm not going to diss or say I love anti style. It's there so hey another wall/spot/area documented so it's cool. Thanks for another video!
antisyle is and has always been fire. it may look childish or "purposefully bad" but the truth is that if you were to try to replicate the style you would not be able to. It is always clear when a piece is antistyle, versus when it is simply done by someone inexperienced. That in my opinion justifies its existence as a worthy style. Treats or eatcops are both some examples of super talented writers who do antistyle. Jtea also crushes with a mix of traditional straight letters and antistlye pieces. Baltimore is full of tasteful antistyle. You just gotta look at it from a different perspective.
Most of this stuff isn't even antistyle. Obese, Regae and Stole are classic, funky styles, similar to what's seen a lot in western europe, Berlin, Spain etc. The ICBM stuff is anti, but Wombat is one of the most up in NYC rn and has a crazy funky, acid, heavy metal style so deserves respect, all those kids like carl,dip etc, put in more work then the salty people hating.
The style may have popped up recently in NYC but people like Clint149, NUG, Renks etc have been painting like this outside of America for 20+ years. Spy33 in the video aka Rambo went hard in NYC for a long time with anti style also, as did neck etc.
The anti hate never made any sense to me, this stuff is closer to 70's/80's train graff then the stuff these mega traditional old heads do anyway, the people who do "real graff" make shit that looks nothing like old school stuff either, so in a way this is more authentic.
A mix between writers wanting a unique style and not wanting the general public to enjoy it and this is what you get. I dig the dollar can, stock cap style.
Amen!
Not even close. I smell a non-new Yorker with opinions.
Anti style is a cope for people who refuse to develop style but believe they need it.
Graff has absolutely nothing to do with style. It is about getting up, not style. Dudes that think they have to cope with being non-artist writers by calling their shit antistyle are mostly weirdos that never understood graff to begin with. Beleiving you need style to be up is something boys from random places who grew up on the nerd fantasies sold in "style wars" beleive, not the people who came up being schooled by other writers.
Great videography as always, some of the pieces not so sure, but interesting indeed 🔥
Thanks for this tour. I recognize Aneko. In 2020, I consistently filmed trains daily from the backyard and have continued ever since. Occasional hipster, anti-styles among the standard styles. Some I enjoy just for a change of pace
I appreciate your commentary.
I literally laughed out loud when you said “if I was to actually paint something like this I’d be mad at myself at the end of the day”
I can appreciate all graffiti styles I’m just definitely too particular to what my mind’s eye sees, my geometry obsession, and growing up in the 90’s with hip hop and graff.
Rick McCrank haha
I’m a choosy guy
Cool vid. Thanks.
Your channel is a gem bro thanks for documenting all this spots for us, bless ✨
love your channel, from Russia ❤
I love this graffiti style!
you all should visit Czech Republic one day especially capital city Prague. 80% of scene is just antistylers and you cant even say anything bad because its all people who are drawing like 20+ years.
A ton in the east Bay Area California too
@@TheLifePhoenix really? idk i like antistyle when it has interesting and logic shapes, when its something different and people know what they are doing. but most of the antistyle looks like nursery school stuff. at least here in CZ
This one is a banger! 🔥
Awesome 💯
a lot of this stuff on these walls remind me of the stuff out of the Bay and the Pacific Northwest. as an older head who started painting around the late 90's, i HATED anti-style stuff until quite recently. it's way harder to accomplish that sense of 'not giving a fuck' than i initially realized. guys like Cancer Carl etc. RIP
Portland Oregon has a big abandoned building like that called Louis Dreyfus Co grain silos on the waterfront. Lots of graffiti. Julia Louis Dreyfus of Seinfeld's family used to own it. It's right across from where the Portland Trail Blazers play.
Interesting, is it still a cool place to explore?
@ffitiWanderersome EXCELLENT yards and cuts to wander around Portland OR still. it's getting yuppified rapidly though. i actually didn't know Elaine's family owned that place lmao
I mean Style is Style. Style is subjective. But Graffiti is not merely Art. There is an undeniable element of Craft involved. That's what makes someone a toy... level of Can Control, Understanding of Traditional Graphic Design, Typography & familiarity with Media. You can be Left Field all day. Some of the best Writes always have been. But if you don't understand the basics of Geometry as it applies to letters, the basics of Color Theory & I suppose, most importantly... the Culture & the History, you're a toy.
arguably it takes more skill to learn anti then regular
The HERT WAS HERE was fresh
took the thought right out my mind
NYC Korn Ball Graffiti
Yeah i see 'enya' 5G up here.. Not my favorite style.. But they are up..
It’s interesting to note that ‘Antistyle’ isn’t a particularly new thing. Starting in the Scandinavian countries in the 90’s and progressing into what we see today. I find it fascinating that it’s actually really hard to do an anti style piece after conditioning myself for the last 30 odd years to paint perfect straight lines and vector style pieces. In this age of ‘Graffiti Industry’ guys are still seeking out doing pieces with stolen hardware paint and stock caps from oven cleaner and avoiding the graffiti store completely. The general public probably would never commission an antistyle writer to create an artwork on their building or whatever so in that case these guys are retaining the essence of what graffiti or writing was all about in the late 60’s. No frills style. There’s a few guys that stand out for me most notably ‘saeio megawizard’ from Paris rest in peace. Wombat from New York also has an interesting style and she’s up a lot. Interesting you can tell the anti style guys that are really good at art and retain some hidden style versus toys doing antistyle which is a paradox. I think Picasso said it took him 50 years to learn to paint like a child again and strangely it’s not easy.
Thanks for this feedback. R.I.P. Saeio
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks anti style is wack
Would Sluto/Aneko be considered anti style?🤔🤔🤔
yes very much so. doesn’t mean they’re bad though.
4:45 i mean it def exploded around then, but antistyle type shit has been around for a while. bunch of crews from san francisco have been on this style for over a decade (BKF & DRUGS crews), and europe has had some nasty stuff for a while now. its always been around, but its definitely a younger persons style, so i def think the pandemic opened up an opportunity for some of the new generation to try graff out
pandasex etc too, well over a decade, shit has been about.
@@stinkyboy69514 yeah, didn’t mention him specifically because i thought he was in DRUGS crew and i was mainly just listing out groups, but hes got some crazy shit. Saeio (R.I.P.) from Paris is also legendary
At 0:43 you might have recorded something radioactive.
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looks like a snow flurry tbh but low key kind of does appear that way lmfao
Some of the shit they wrote around the “anti-style” “pieces” is pretty random
Repeating 3-D wild styles is what's wack.
Antistyle is Not realy nice,,,greetz from saxony 🤓✌
takes a at least a surface level understanding of style in order to do something purposefully opposing.
It amazes its even called anything but toy due to how it looks like the work of someone who is inexperienced. Much of this comes from those trying to pursue a retro style or throwback style from the 60's and 70's, however due to social media, those who aren't as successful at it, get the exposure that ordinarily wouldnt have. Back in days in NYC, much of this would have been gone over by more experienced people without hesitation. Indeed its a matter of opinion, but no self-respecting writer would dub themselves an anti style writer because what you do is write, you do style Writing. Anti style originally breaks from stylistic norms like an abstract but many of these arent that. The controversy is the exposure of those who document or thrist for likes on IG and elsewhere share these things over those who are displaying some really innovating can control or style writing. You can't be a certain age doing something like this. By age 20 is when your style if kept at it, reaches a level of development where your lines are getting clean and what you're doing is well define, unfortunately many of these who are doing this are in their late 20s and mid 30s
I never actually got to know any of these “anti style” writers… I just assume brand new art school kids… early 20’s… roomate situation… parents pay their rent 🤣
There is no such thing as anti style, just clowns that think developing style is too hard and need to cope.
never liked anti-styles,just looks like a bunch of kids did it,no real skills,just wack
some things gotta change after the years. graffiti has been the same for a long time. imo its refreshing to see something new.
@@colrle95 yeah true,but not by going backwards style wise,it needs to evolve to something higher and better,this would only serve to make everything we have built over the years
Well, it takes some art mindset to create anti style stuff, it might seem like kid can do it but if you dont have talent then you cant. it evolved, to more art thing. tbh, i dont think creating 3d is end game.. i think if youre capable of create good antistyle piece thats some high end art.
i personally dont even think it should be called anti style, i think the term it used to be called was toy
@@rosjasssI hear this all the time and people say writers who do anti style can actually piece and have a clean handstyle but they choose to do anti style but I can’t think of one writer that does anti style that can also do proper graffiti. Idk maybe I’m wrong and they are secretly talented but when I see anti style all I see is a failed attempt at abstract art by someone who clearly doesn’t know the fundamentals.
Anything on a wall claiming to be graffiti needs to follow the fundamentals and have at least some quality effort put into it. Otherwise it's toy shit like a lot the stuff in this vid minus the Obese piece.
First, imo one should do graff purely for themselves and their own gratification. But from a purely aesthetic skill oriented standpoint.... In an an age where dissent/disagreement is being widely suppressed alot of bs can fly that would not have been able to previously. The result is that views become skewed. Social media -> ppl have a platform who otherwise wouldn't -> less disagreement -> more "positive" feedback -> more people onboard with a skewed ideology -> cycle is fed repeats and gets more vicious. That said, with some of these works one can see the can control is there, but shit is just unnerving overall to look at imo. Regarding platforms, that of the old was trains, walls, rolldowns, trucks, outside canvas etc(not social media at all) where as if shit was wack it got gone over by some thing better, or just ragged. Things used to be very very different, things change with the times; the world in most facets is on an accelerated swirl down the shitter, so yea there you have it.