Strangely near 6000 views and this is only the second comment. One possible explanation is that a strong case is made that Chesterton was on to something when he wrote ' “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.” Not necessarily a conversation starter. I found this well worth watching, possibly more than once.
@@etiennemarshallthach3736 Off the top of my head, I came up with this. The sort of things Christianity might have been helpful in preserving were the family and community. it seems to me the church hammered down on faith (such as only believe) rather than offering a case on why those things matter. I find that presented by various worthies mostly outside the church, and to an apparently diminishing audience.
Great lecture. Comment on his interpretation regarding Ivan’s planned suicide - I hadn’t thought about that section this way before. When Ivan mentions he would give up the cup at 30, I assumed it meant to stop living for pure pleasure (though living for what he certainly has yet to come to an answer, yet somehow he still plans his future by chasing Katrina and committing several other deeds)… the question of committing suicide to prove one’s humanity, however, was something Dostoyevsky discusses at length in Demons through Kirilov, so it could very well be a suggestion to suicide. I’ll have to think about that for while…. Dr. Martin - would love to ask more questions regarding Dostoyevsky and Solzhenitsyn if I may.
Hello, I have a comment on the irony question at 44;40. It seems that the simplest way to dissipate the paradox is to turn to John 6 and read Jesus' response to the crowd following him because it wants to eat again.
This is great but a few details were omitted or wrong. Dostoevsky did not see his father being killed. He heard about it from Moscow or St Petersburg afterwards. It is also not clear whether his father was killed in the first place. And his father was a good man, although at times a bit harsh. He also wasn't a drunkard as far as I know, though he was addicted to gambling. The speaker also failed to speak about how the story of the Grand Inquisitor ends. It would have fitted well. Christ, instead of arguing with the Inquisitor, only kisses him on the head. The Inquisitor, shocked, let's Jesus go. After Ivan told this story Alyosha did the same. He did not argue, but kissed Ivan on the head. But thanks for this anyway. I love to hear how Chesterton and Dostoevsky compare.
one of my favorite talks ever, fam
Strangely near 6000 views and this is only the second comment. One possible explanation is that a strong case is made that Chesterton was on to something when he wrote ' “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found difficult; and left untried.” Not necessarily a conversation starter. I found this well worth watching, possibly more than once.
I’d point to teilhard’s thesis of the necessity of the Christian omega point, a progressive Christianity necessary to captivate a modern society
@@etiennemarshallthach3736 Off the top of my head, I came up with this. The sort of things Christianity might have been helpful in preserving were the family and community.
it seems to me the church hammered down on faith (such as only believe) rather than offering a case on why those things matter.
I find that presented by various worthies mostly outside the church, and to an apparently diminishing audience.
@@Eyesayah that was the problem particularly in the Catholic Church.
Amazing lecture. Thank you very much for this.
Thank you
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Could not make out the audio, so sorry.
Great lecture. Comment on his interpretation regarding Ivan’s planned suicide - I hadn’t thought about that section this way before. When Ivan mentions he would give up the cup at 30, I assumed it meant to stop living for pure pleasure (though living for what he certainly has yet to come to an answer, yet somehow he still plans his future by chasing Katrina and committing several other deeds)… the question of committing suicide to prove one’s humanity, however, was something Dostoyevsky discusses at length in Demons through Kirilov, so it could very well be a suggestion to suicide. I’ll have to think about that for while….
Dr. Martin - would love to ask more questions regarding Dostoyevsky and Solzhenitsyn if I may.
Please do.
Hello, I have a comment on the irony question at 44;40. It seems that the simplest way to dissipate the paradox is to turn to John 6 and read Jesus' response to the crowd following him because it wants to eat again.
This is great but a few details were omitted or wrong.
Dostoevsky did not see his father being killed. He heard about it from Moscow or St Petersburg afterwards. It is also not clear whether his father was killed in the first place. And his father was a good man, although at times a bit harsh. He also wasn't a drunkard as far as I know, though he was addicted to gambling.
The speaker also failed to speak about how the story of the Grand Inquisitor ends. It would have fitted well. Christ, instead of arguing with the Inquisitor, only kisses him on the head. The Inquisitor, shocked, let's Jesus go.
After Ivan told this story Alyosha did the same. He did not argue, but kissed Ivan on the head.
But thanks for this anyway. I love to hear how Chesterton and Dostoevsky compare.
Yes thank you!
A comment so I can find this video quickly when I'm done working!
From 2016 the audio is terrible.
Absolutely horribly trying to make out the talk. Please improve the Audio. Thank You.