This is too much! It's mind-blowing, Glory to God who gives wisdom to great men such as GK Chesterton, CS Lewis and Ven. Fulton Sheen. God has really caught me by the hand and shown me, new mysteries and truths beyond what "modern" man wants to accept.
I really like your response and thank you....but in a sense the video is not too much (and theoretical CANNOT be too much)....because love is Infinite, because "God is love...or again, "Love has it's own rules" [Boethius] 🌻
I think I agree more with younger Chesterton that there's such a thing as over civilization. I think the idea of a return to barbarism is an interesting way of viewing the same problem. I personally think divison and irrationality are the main problems that will bring down our present civilization.
as far as the concept of dogma is concerned, there are indeed times when dogmatic thinking can preserve the achievments of a declining civilization, as has happened in the dark ages, yet, af ter a certain time, dogmatic thinking reaches the end of it's ability to relate to certain aspects of reality. most important of those are indeed the foundations of human dignity. that is why the reformation occured. that is why the english civil war, the french revolution, and the american war of independence happened. science today, which indeed has a pantheon of external forces as it's new , dark and dogmatic religion, wishes to achieve the control of humanity that once religions could achieve with ideas. the fall of camelot happened because arthur had to confront the result of past actions, and that is a metaphor for the trsgic cycle of construction and destruction, of surrender to internal impulses and the hope of surpassing them. the grail is a symbol for release from this cycle. in the near future, the scientific community will indeed have to confront the question :"does knowledge of science also allow scientists to make ethical decisions over humanity? is there a need for philosophers and theologians to act as the responsible adults and ask not only "how"but "why?"that would be the breaking of the vicious circle. for the king to be reborn, mankind must be reborn.
Hi. "Scientist" are sold as their ethos is. All of them ultimatelly got their bosses. Peer review is there to keep them strictly checked, that is, aligned with the mainstream discourse of changing ideas, nay - mere imagery - we were daily fed on the particular verge of events previously planed to be orchestrated before us. And since true philosophy and theology has been lately wiped out of public debate, scientist are also asked to play that part (much to the liking of Auguste Comte), asserting such things as that there is no free will or that God does not exist. Long used to the practice of a particular kind of phenomenology, they end up denying reality, like the empirist that ends up becoming a german idealist without ever noticing his own shifts of tought. And I cannot help into agreeing that it began with dogma. Without the medieval Summas, there would not be the enlightment's ideal of Enciclopedia, or the last development, the theory of all. Modernity is as old as sin, but it had to wait the proper time. What shall disclosure its last developments needs be a portent, but I hardly believe it to be Marx's promisse of an earthly paradise. But the thing is worse now than it was at Chesterton's time: at least, he could ask the man in the street. We, on the other hand, are directed to pick a man from a crowd of people holding litle stone gods in their hands.
Oral poetry recorded the locations of many pre classical greek sites in the Illiad and odyssey. It's entirely possible Achilles, Odysseus, Agamemnon and other heros were real people. With this in mind it's also possible king Aurthur was a real person, though most of the stories written about him we know were written during the latter middle ages.
HOLY MOTHER CHURCH She is Ever Ancient and Ever new, From Her Western Civilization grew. Now we’re ever modern and ever old, With Moderns, Civilizations now mold. But from Her, all Christendom will renew! -@
Amen I've been in and out of Christianity for a while now. I've gone through a cycle of finding a self contradiction in the bible, becoming a non believer, finding a way to reconcile the two passages and becoming a Christian again. Even as a non believer in Christianity I still believe in God and I admit Jesus probably rose from the dead and that his name is powerful for the casting out of demons. Recently I was on the unbeliever part of the cycle when I believe I had a bout of sleep paralysis, a condition where you're half asleep and half awake, where your eyes are open but you can't move and you typically see a dark figure often described as a demon standing in the dark room. I didn't see anyone but I felt a hand crawling up my back. I got very scared and tried to cast him out in the name of Jesus, but it didn't initially work and I got more scared and started calling upon Jesus, calling him God and the son of God and it went away. Now I don't know where I'm at. I don't know if I can call myself a Christian if I don't believe in the inerrancy of scripture, but that episode indicates that even if I thought I didn't I still believed when push came to shove that Jesus was the son of God. So what do you think, am I a Christian if I believe Jesus is God and the son of God but don't believe in the inerrancy of scripture?
The voice is wrong. I've heard a recording of Chesterton. His voice was much more English, much more upper-class, and of course, much higher-pitched. Upper-class Englishmen in the Edwardian era tended to speak at the top of their registers. I've also heard a recording of Oscar Wilde, and he was the same. (Not a trace of an Irish brogue, either!)
I was GK's best friend growing up in the small shire of Chestershiretonvillebury. He spoke as a true British man of dignity and this commentor heard but one recording of GK and now whenceforth he is an expert in my dearly beloved Mr. Chesterton? I say nay nay
The Catholic Knight You can’t unwind the Endless Knot, A symbol Christendom forgot, Overtaken by the Pagan, Reversed to represent Satan. Let us reclaim theEndless Knot!
Mother of fair love, I look to you. Take into your hands the ribbon of my life, and see the snarl of knots that keeps me bound to sin, anxiety, and hopelessness. I beg you, Mother, by your powerful intercession and long fingers of love and grace, undo the knots in my heart and in my life. Free me to love as Christ loves. Mary, Undoer of Knots, pray for us.
The Dark Ages? Out of the Dark Ages and a return to Civilization? Civilization is not an improvement of living conditions, and a decline of living conditions and just is not a decline of civilization because the word is poorly used. When we were barbaric we were civilized, when we carried water in a bucket and used an out door privy we were civilized. Civilization is simply how we are living now. Justice, Free Will belong to the Church not government or civilization. We have never, ever been more than Savages except when we believe and belong to the Church, Honestly, With Faith, Love and Belief in God our Creator and Christ our Savior only come from the Catholic Church, the Church of Christ our Savior.
The problem with the argument of the Catholic church preversing civilisation during the dark ages is it's not exclusively true. Islam has just as much a claim in preserving Ancient Greek texts (Plato, Aristotle) during this period. If the argument for Catholicism is that it preserves Western cultural, there's no reason why an identical argument couldn't be made for Islam. Also, although Chesterton gives an excellent definition of savagery as social determinism, there's an obvious inversion of defintion where D. Ahlquist using this to defend the social necessity of marriage and the moral fatalism of heterosexuality. If these are the justifications for doing things on pain of social exclusion, here we have barbarism reappearing under a slightly different guise. We should in any case remember Chesterton's own words: "Human history is so rich and complicated that you can make out a case for any course of improvement or retrogression."
Islam started at 600 AD. The roman catholic church had already preserved and ushered in the western civilization well before islam was established and several more hundred years before the ottoman empire took over greece.
KING ARTHUR WAS NEVER BURRIED HOW ONE KNOWS THIS IS MY BUSSINESS HE WAS BURNT ON A BOAT ON A LAKE WERE DO YOU THINK VIKINGS GET THE DRAGON HEAD OF THIR SHIPS FROM THE RED DRAGON ,
This is too much! It's mind-blowing, Glory to God who gives wisdom to great men such as GK Chesterton, CS Lewis and Ven. Fulton Sheen. God has really caught me by the hand and shown me, new mysteries and truths beyond what "modern" man wants to accept.
I really like your response and thank you....but in a sense the video is not too much (and theoretical CANNOT be too much)....because love is Infinite, because "God is love...or again, "Love has it's own rules" [Boethius] 🌻
These posts are gems. Full of wisdom and good sense. Thank you
I enjoy GK Chesterton. It’s amazing how prophetic his writings were.
Chesterton must have studied the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima. Because she says the decisive battle against the devil will be about the family
Thank you so very much.
The looting operation of the English king's church of Catholic cathedrals. Glastonbury is one of those looted and privatized for the king's pleasure.
I think I agree more with younger Chesterton that there's such a thing as over civilization. I think the idea of a return to barbarism is an interesting way of viewing the same problem. I personally think divison and irrationality are the main problems that will bring down our present civilization.
Glad RUclips recommended this to me.
8 years later and just look at the terrible things we’re teaching children today, the “healthcare” were administering on/to children…”Progressive”
as far as the concept of dogma is concerned, there are indeed times when dogmatic thinking can preserve the achievments of a declining civilization, as has happened in the dark ages, yet, af ter a certain time, dogmatic thinking reaches the end of it's ability to relate to certain aspects of reality. most important of those are indeed the foundations of human dignity. that is why the reformation occured. that is why the english civil war, the french revolution, and the american war of independence happened. science today, which indeed has a pantheon of external forces as it's new , dark and dogmatic religion, wishes to achieve the control of humanity that once religions could achieve with ideas. the fall of camelot happened because arthur had to confront the result of past actions, and that is a metaphor for the trsgic cycle of construction and destruction, of surrender to internal impulses and the hope of surpassing them. the grail is a symbol for release from this cycle. in the near future, the scientific community will indeed have to confront the question :"does knowledge of science also allow scientists to make ethical decisions over humanity? is there a need for philosophers and theologians to act as the responsible adults and ask not only "how"but "why?"that would be the breaking of the vicious circle. for the king to be reborn, mankind must be reborn.
Hi. "Scientist" are sold as their ethos is. All of them ultimatelly got their bosses. Peer review is there to keep them strictly checked, that is, aligned with the mainstream discourse of changing ideas, nay - mere imagery - we were daily fed on the particular verge of events previously planed to be orchestrated before us. And since true philosophy and theology has been lately wiped out of public debate, scientist are also asked to play that part (much to the liking of Auguste Comte), asserting such things as that there is no free will or that God does not exist. Long used to the practice of a particular kind of phenomenology, they end up denying reality, like the empirist that ends up becoming a german idealist without ever noticing his own shifts of tought. And I cannot help into agreeing that it began with dogma. Without the medieval Summas, there would not be the enlightment's ideal of Enciclopedia, or the last development, the theory of all. Modernity is as old as sin, but it had to wait the proper time. What shall disclosure its last developments needs be a portent, but I hardly believe it to be Marx's promisse of an earthly paradise.
But the thing is worse now than it was at Chesterton's time: at least, he could ask the man in the street. We, on the other hand, are directed to pick a man from a crowd of people holding litle stone gods in their hands.
Oral poetry recorded the locations of many pre classical greek sites in the Illiad and odyssey. It's entirely possible Achilles, Odysseus, Agamemnon and other heros were real people.
With this in mind it's also possible king Aurthur was a real person, though most of the stories written about him we know were written during the latter middle ages.
Canterbury is the ancient seat of Christianity in England, not Glastonbury.
im not sure out in the west country they have some very old churches roman times
HOLY MOTHER CHURCH
She is Ever Ancient and Ever new,
From Her Western Civilization grew.
Now we’re ever modern and ever old,
With Moderns, Civilizations now mold.
But from Her, all Christendom will renew!
-@
Western civilization existed before the church though.
"... a slave without a Lord."
If Christianity is a lie, it is indeed a beautiful lie. And there’s an everlasting hint of truth in beauty.
Amen I've been in and out of Christianity for a while now. I've gone through a cycle of finding a self contradiction in the bible, becoming a non believer, finding a way to reconcile the two passages and becoming a Christian again. Even as a non believer in Christianity I still believe in God and I admit Jesus probably rose from the dead and that his name is powerful for the casting out of demons. Recently I was on the unbeliever part of the cycle when I believe I had a bout of sleep paralysis, a condition where you're half asleep and half awake, where your eyes are open but you can't move and you typically see a dark figure often described as a demon standing in the dark room. I didn't see anyone but I felt a hand crawling up my back. I got very scared and tried to cast him out in the name of Jesus, but it didn't initially work and I got more scared and started calling upon Jesus, calling him God and the son of God and it went away. Now I don't know where I'm at. I don't know if I can call myself a Christian if I don't believe in the inerrancy of scripture, but that episode indicates that even if I thought I didn't I still believed when push came to shove that Jesus was the son of God. So what do you think, am I a Christian if I believe Jesus is God and the son of God but don't believe in the inerrancy of scripture?
The voice is wrong.
I've heard a recording of Chesterton. His voice was much more English, much more upper-class, and of course, much higher-pitched. Upper-class Englishmen in the Edwardian era tended to speak at the top of their registers. I've also heard a recording of Oscar Wilde, and he was the same. (Not a trace of an Irish brogue, either!)
Well .... la de dah ... 🤦🏻♂️
Exactly! (Full on GK fan here by the way!) (My word, how he would have hated that sentence...)
Dale has an actor speaking for GK Chesterton
I knew gk well and can confirm he had a pronounced Egyptian accent, Cairo more specifically.
I was GK's best friend growing up in the small shire of Chestershiretonvillebury. He spoke as a true British man of dignity and this commentor heard but one recording of GK and now whenceforth he is an expert in my dearly beloved Mr. Chesterton? I say nay nay
Now even the pope preaches envy.
AVALON HIGH-KING ARTHUR IS WILL!
The Catholic Knight
You can’t unwind the
Endless Knot,
A symbol Christendom
forgot,
Overtaken by the
Pagan,
Reversed to represent
Satan.
Let us reclaim theEndless Knot!
Mother of fair love, I look to you.
Take into your hands the ribbon of my life,
and see the snarl of knots that keeps me bound
to sin, anxiety, and hopelessness.
I beg you, Mother, by your powerful intercession
and long fingers of love and grace,
undo the knots in my heart and in my life.
Free me to love as Christ loves.
Mary, Undoer of Knots, pray for us.
The Dark Ages? Out of the Dark Ages and a return to Civilization? Civilization is not an improvement of living conditions, and a decline of living conditions and just is not a decline of civilization because the word is poorly used. When we were barbaric we were civilized, when we carried water in a bucket and used an out door privy we were civilized. Civilization is simply how we are living now. Justice, Free Will belong to the Church not government or civilization. We have never, ever been more than Savages except when we believe and belong to the Church, Honestly, With Faith, Love and Belief in God our Creator and Christ our Savior only come from the Catholic Church, the Church of Christ our Savior.
The problem with the argument of the Catholic church preversing civilisation during the dark ages is it's not exclusively true. Islam has just as much a claim in preserving Ancient Greek texts (Plato, Aristotle) during this period. If the argument for Catholicism is that it preserves Western cultural, there's no reason why an identical argument couldn't be made for Islam. Also, although Chesterton gives an excellent definition of savagery as social determinism, there's an obvious inversion of defintion where D. Ahlquist using this to defend the social necessity of marriage and the moral fatalism of heterosexuality. If these are the justifications for doing things on pain of social exclusion, here we have barbarism reappearing under a slightly different guise.
We should in any case remember Chesterton's own words: "Human history is so rich and complicated that you can make out a case for any course of improvement or retrogression."
There was no islam at the time Rome fell.
Islam didn't preserve western culture.
Islam started at 600 AD. The roman catholic church had already preserved and ushered in the western civilization well before islam was established and several more hundred years before the ottoman empire took over greece.
KING ARTHUR WAS NEVER BURRIED HOW ONE KNOWS THIS IS MY BUSSINESS HE WAS BURNT ON A BOAT ON A LAKE WERE DO YOU THINK VIKINGS GET THE DRAGON HEAD OF THIR SHIPS FROM THE RED DRAGON ,
Explain?