Thanks for confirming what I had already assumed, All of these setups sound exactly like snare wires. I really can't tell the difference from one set to the other. If you ever decide to take up this project again in the future.... I have some considerations 1- Please consider a concert snare tuning with open and pressed rolls 2- Please make the tuning more specific. (snare strainer engaged, plus XXX many turns of the strainer) this way the test is far less subjective and more repetitive. Just mark the strainer tensioner with a line once the snares are engaged and reasonably working 3- Please consider starting at the most loose setting and playing the drum as you tension the snares to their tightest (turning while tapping) Thanks
That’s definitely not my takeaway. The Millenium snares (especially the 20 strand) sound a lot more boxy than the rest. I think wires are a pretty big factor for the snare sound, being a part of the drum that actually vibrates and produces sound.
It's remarkable to hear that the pure sound snares primarily affect the "roll" sound and leave the drum open on the single hits. I do like the wider ones, up to about the 30 strands, they give a little more control at the single strokes, but a full buzz on the rolls. Excellent video! Thanks!
Tbh I feel like you don't get a true idea of which snare is right for you until you play on these snares, feel is a big part of it and snares will sound wildly different depending on your playstyle. That being said this video is a good place to start when picking out which snares to start trying. My personal favorites are Canopus snares, more responsive than any other snare brand I've tried.
I'm curious if you have any opinions on how the different options fare in terms of sympathetic buzz? I hate a ton of extra buzz. I'd expect that more snare wires means more buzz, but I've heard an idea that with more wires, you can tighten them higher without choking the sound, and since the tighter the wires are the less buzz there is, you get a good snare sound and less buzz.
I have never tried sets of extra wires, but jut the opposite : I use 8 strand snares (Sonor Straight 8, or puresound and Pearl sets I trim down). I have also tried a 13" set with 8 wires after having seen one of the latest videos of Sound Like a Drum about 13" wires on 14" snares. It works wonders.
Thank you! Great comparison! I like here Puresound C1416 for a regular sound and Millenium SW20BR or Puresound CPS1424 for vintage marching-drum-like sound
I don't know if it was my imagination because I knew they had more strands but it felt like the rolls were more laboured as the strands increased. That said, they pretty much all sounded the same to me. I was certainly expecting much more of a difference.
In my time playing with snares and such I’ve found that as long as your snare drum is tuned properly and you make sure the snare wires sit flat and even on reso head, any snare wire will be good. 20 wire works for me no matter how expensive or cheap.
12 or 16 strand is plenty of wires. With more wires, you can get some buzzing if they're not aligned perfectly. They can get skewed on the drum, so you end up with uneven tension across all wires. Less wires the better. For me, anyway.
I think on quiet hits you hear the most difference. The Milleniums have this low, cardboardy quality to them on the ghost notes. On the accents everything sounds pretty similar
The only time I heard any difference was on the ghosted notes, the rimshots seemed to be the same, the canopus vintage dry brightened up the drum, liked it.
Thanks a lot for the comparison. its indeed too subtle to spot a diference in many of those, in extreme, a 16 wire and 42 wire it will make a diference, but still not as i was imagining. I have to say tho that too many wires on the snare could be a little anoying for a recording situation, you hit toms and them your snare is buzzing. About material and quality, its really no big diference, maybe in a long run about the durability of the wires.
This has taught me that snare wires make a very limited difference haha. That's a nicely tuned snare drum, which makes em all sound good. Although I would be interested to know the difference between stock wires vs these. Great vid!
There is so much more articulation with the 42's. If you set the 42's level and flat, and tighten or loosen the lugs on either side of the wire set, you can't get the versatility with any other wire set. IMHO.
good video.. but it would be better yo just compare the materials, like steel, copper, etc.. i was looking such kind of video.. happy to seee this. 12 to 20 wires is best. not more than 24 not less than 12..:) bu still not sure about the material of the wires.
I don't see the snare side mic. I think the difference would be more obvious with it in the mix. Normally we should record a snare drum with the snare side mic. It adds a lot to the overall sound. I think that's why so many people didn't hear much difference between different wires.
Sure ain’t enough to worry about in my opinion!!!☝️… when you’ve got a great sound tech with good mics he can make buckets and garbage cans sound good!!! Jusss sayin!!!☝️🤣🤣
This is the best snare wire comparison I've seen. Great job and thank you! I know it must have been a lot of work.
thanks!
Agree...well done!!
Yes, just awesome!
I'll be honest. I dont hear a big difference but the canopus sound the best to me. That snare sounds incredible though.
Definitely! Canopus Vintage Dry is one of my secret weapons and I have retro-fitted all my snares with them. Best of the best.
Thanks for the effort. If these videos have taught me anything, it's that the wires barely even matter 😄
Unfassbar viel Arbeit für einen unfassbar guten Test. Vielen Dank!
Danke! :-)
Thanks for confirming what I had already assumed, All of these setups sound exactly like snare wires. I really can't tell the difference from one set to the other.
If you ever decide to take up this project again in the future.... I have some considerations
1- Please consider a concert snare tuning with open and pressed rolls
2- Please make the tuning more specific. (snare strainer engaged, plus XXX many turns of the strainer) this way the test is far less subjective and more repetitive. Just mark the strainer tensioner with a line once the snares are engaged and reasonably working
3- Please consider starting at the most loose setting and playing the drum as you tension the snares to their tightest (turning while tapping)
Thanks
yet another great clip demonstrating the wires are all the same no matter the cost, so I say - pay less money and more attention to tuning
That’s definitely not my takeaway. The Millenium snares (especially the 20 strand) sound a lot more boxy than the rest. I think wires are a pretty big factor for the snare sound, being a part of the drum that actually vibrates and produces sound.
Well done guys. The Canopus Vintage Dry sounds great. The Gretsch Brooklyn Standard is now on my radar.
thanks... and happy shopping! :-)
It's remarkable to hear that the pure sound snares primarily affect the "roll" sound and leave the drum open on the single hits. I do like the wider ones, up to about the 30 strands, they give a little more control at the single strokes, but a full buzz on the rolls. Excellent video! Thanks!
Tbh I feel like you don't get a true idea of which snare is right for you until you play on these snares, feel is a big part of it and snares will sound wildly different depending on your playstyle. That being said this video is a good place to start when picking out which snares to start trying. My personal favorites are Canopus snares, more responsive than any other snare brand I've tried.
Great comparison and very well tested! Thank you so much for doing this and sharing! You are the legend
I'm curious if you have any opinions on how the different options fare in terms of sympathetic buzz? I hate a ton of extra buzz. I'd expect that more snare wires means more buzz, but I've heard an idea that with more wires, you can tighten them higher without choking the sound, and since the tighter the wires are the less buzz there is, you get a good snare sound and less buzz.
I have never tried sets of extra wires, but jut the opposite : I use 8 strand snares (Sonor Straight 8, or puresound and Pearl sets I trim down). I have also tried a 13" set with 8 wires after having seen one of the latest videos of Sound Like a Drum about 13" wires on 14" snares. It works wonders.
Genialer Test, vielen Dank!
poor guy had to change all these snares rip
And to what end? 🙁
😂
Thank you! Great comparison! I like here Puresound C1416 for a regular sound and Millenium SW20BR or Puresound CPS1424 for vintage marching-drum-like sound
I don't know if it was my imagination because I knew they had more strands but it felt like the rolls were more laboured as the strands increased. That said, they pretty much all sounded the same to me. I was certainly expecting much more of a difference.
I kind of love the 42 strand tight.
In my time playing with snares and such I’ve found that as long as your snare drum is tuned properly and you make sure the snare wires sit flat and even on reso head, any snare wire will be good. 20 wire works for me no matter how expensive or cheap.
It getting crazy
Ugh, I hate changing wires. Good on yah! 🤘🤘
🎼 Perfect. I was looking for a snare wire video. Great job!
thanks! :-)
I couldn't tell you why, or how, but I always use 30, it just hits me just right.
12 or 16 strand is plenty of wires. With more wires, you can get some buzzing if they're not aligned perfectly. They can get skewed on the drum, so you end up with uneven tension across all wires. Less wires the better. For me, anyway.
I think on quiet hits you hear the most difference. The Milleniums have this low, cardboardy quality to them on the ghost notes. On the accents everything sounds pretty similar
The only time I heard any difference was on the ghosted notes, the rimshots seemed to be the same, the canopus vintage dry brightened up the drum, liked it.
Thanks a lot for the comparison.
its indeed too subtle to spot a diference in many of those, in extreme, a 16 wire and 42 wire it will make a diference, but still not as i was imagining.
I have to say tho that too many wires on the snare could be a little anoying for a recording situation, you hit toms and them your snare is buzzing.
About material and quality, its really no big diference, maybe in a long run about the durability of the wires.
How did you tune this snare drum? Is the reso head much tighter than the batter head?
SUPER HELPFUL !!!! Thank You very much for doing this and sharing. : )
thanks!
Is there one you would recommend for a 14x8 snare?
Ha! I guess I love strands. The more they had, the better they sounded to my ear.
Great snare sound throughout!
Je mehr man sucht, umso mehr deutsche Schlagzeug-RUclipsr findet man ;D
up to 24, they all sound the same. thanks for sharing!
This has taught me that snare wires make a very limited difference haha. That's a nicely tuned snare drum, which makes em all sound good.
Although I would be interested to know the difference between stock wires vs these. Great vid!
There is so much more articulation with the 42's. If you set the 42's level and flat, and tighten or loosen the lugs on either side of the wire set, you can't get the versatility with any other wire set. IMHO.
Puresound C1416
good video.. but it would be better yo just compare the materials, like steel, copper, etc.. i was looking such kind of video.. happy to seee this. 12 to 20 wires is best. not more than 24 not less than 12..:) bu still not sure about the material of the wires.
Thank you.
Thank a lot !
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video no talking❤
less is more, I like the 12 strand sets
Thanks for the video and skipping the talking. +1 for the Canopus Vintage
I don't see the snare side mic. I think the difference would be more obvious with it in the mix. Normally we should record a snare drum with the snare side mic. It adds a lot to the overall sound. I think that's why so many people didn't hear much difference between different wires.
its there, look closer
Can not hear much difference between 14 and 42.
Sure ain’t enough to worry about in my opinion!!!☝️… when you’ve got a great sound tech with good mics he can make buckets and garbage cans sound good!!! Jusss sayin!!!☝️🤣🤣
Mega tesr
It getting so so ??? But it as it thing
Smoke and mirrors, they all sound the same 🤷🏻♂️
….and I’m listening through expensive headphones.