Keating, Brereton, Beazley, Martin vs Howard, Costello, Fischer, Reith (1995)

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • A scrappy week. Members lock horns on Bob Hawke, IR, Labor loyalty, the Easton Royal Commission and Standing Orders, among other things. Keating invokes the words of Sir Garfield Barwick in defence of Carmen Lawrence.
    See • Paul Keating · John Ho... for more on the airport noise debate that took off as the week wore on.
    These are excerpts from Order in the House, hosted by Maxine McKew and broadcast on ABC TV in 1995. Starring presenter Maxine McKew; Speaker Stephen Martin; Prime Minister Paul Keating; Leader of the House and Deputy PM, Kim Beazley; Leader of the Opposition John Howard; Minister for Industrial Relations Laurie Brereton; Deputy Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Treasurer, Peter Costello; Manager of Opposition Business in the House Peter Reith and Shadow Minister for Trade, National Party Leader Tim Fischer.
    As always, sorry 'bout the picture quality from decades-old video tapes. (Also for the repeated 20 secs in this one.)

Комментарии • 74

  • @russe19642
    @russe19642 3 года назад +38

    Keating was way ahead of his time, he was spot on describing the USA system where even now after 26years on the minimal wage hasn't moved

  • @anthonywillis7634
    @anthonywillis7634 3 года назад +24

    6:26 is when Keating starts to make reference to Howard’s work choices policy that eventually got him the boot...oh and removed from his seat of Bennelong. Keating wasn’t stupid he knew howards end game!

    • @tjmarx
      @tjmarx 3 года назад +4

      It wasn't hard to know, work choices has been a stated liberal policy since 1987.

    • @davidbarnes1563
      @davidbarnes1563 3 года назад

      Anthony Willis , the taking of Bennelong was viewed only as a political trophy by Labor , John Howard's replacement wasn't 'there' most of the time

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  2 года назад

      @@davidbarnes1563 y’what?

    • @daveb3987
      @daveb3987 Год назад +2

      And Howard’s seat was taken by the host, Maxine McCue.

    • @arthurtheodoropoulos7555
      @arthurtheodoropoulos7555 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@daveb3987Good riddance to the arselicker conga line USA suckhole Johnny Winston Howard who got the BIG KICK in the pants bum…: courtesy of his poodle Zionist G.W. Bush and Rummy Rumsfeld the hypocrite Zionist Iraq war turd with Paul Zionist Wolfie and Doggie Zionist Feith and his draconian Work Choices propaganda satanic garbage…

  • @tomcross3000
    @tomcross3000 2 года назад +8

    Lol when he went on how he killed 2 opposition leaders and he’s on his third, and he did the most damage to him in 87.. and he said “bob’s not here either” what a gangster

  • @marceldandy6202
    @marceldandy6202 3 года назад +8

    This was a golden age of politics on both sides of the floor.

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад +1

      The end of an era...

  • @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
    @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns 3 года назад +17

    I still don't get it. Keating Labor should have been re-elected in 1996. If people had been watching this instead of reading the Daily Terror, they would've re-elected Keating Labor several times over.

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад +5

      I couldn't agree more, Joseph.
      I think Howard cunningly managed to wedge Keating on the republican initiative.
      Perhaps Australians - remembering "simpler" times under Liberal Party rule (rather than associating those times with aimless drift that could go on no longer) - went for "relaxed and comfortable" over another three years of reform, and a leader who challenged them to think?
      That, and the tall poppy thing. Howard feigned humility; Keating was a boss.

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад +4

      Why would a country not prefer a person of wit, intelligence and resolve, with complete command of his brief and his Party, to be the one in charge of pushing and defending their best interests?
      That's a feature of the Australian character I don't get.

    • @GoddyofWar
      @GoddyofWar 2 года назад +8

      The moment Howard beat Keating at the polls was the moment you knew the majority of Australians actually don't give a rosey shit about politics.

    • @marcusg9294
      @marcusg9294 2 года назад

      You can’t accuse the Daily Terror of being any more selective than this collection of sound bites. All media is skewed because all reporting is selective, in general reporters and editors only present what they consider the significant or best parts of a debate

    • @marcusg9294
      @marcusg9294 2 года назад

      @@GoddyofWar Keating sounds great in the question time but at the end of the day it’s the policies and the rest of the team that actually make the difference, the sharp wit, criticism and biting humour entertains the politician’s fans but the general public sees right through it

  • @APJardine
    @APJardine 3 года назад +17

    And Maxine takes John's seat 12 years later !

    • @jordanwhite1687
      @jordanwhite1687 3 года назад +1

      And she lost it 3 years later

    • @clevelandwilliams5922
      @clevelandwilliams5922 3 года назад +2

      @@jordanwhite1687 that’s not the point. They wanted no more of Howard and they put a stamp on the paperwork by saying well also make sure he does not get re-elected. They got both strikes

  • @bbegins10
    @bbegins10 3 года назад +5

    Jem these are so great. Thank you so much for uploading

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад

      Thank you numba 10. Glad you're enjoying them. I appreciate it.

    • @bbegins10
      @bbegins10 3 года назад

      @@JemClarke hey I’m trying to find the second Keating Howard debate from 96... maybe we can crowd source it

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад +1

      ​@@bbegins10 Maybe we might have to...
      Not having much luck here!

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад

      @@bbegins10 100% sure I taped it. 0% sure where the tape is...
      Surely it must be on the 'net somewhere!?

    • @bbegins10
      @bbegins10 3 года назад +1

      @@JemClarke oh pleeeeeease dig it out, I assure you it is nowhere to be found! First debate yes, second debate has disappeared.

  • @brookt3497
    @brookt3497 3 года назад +7

    24/3/2021 I just miss him...

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад +2

      25 years since he left the scene... many of us still do.

  • @motherlessblues1565
    @motherlessblues1565 3 года назад +5

    Deputy Sheriff Costello was full of beans & beans means hot air,,,,

  • @James-kv6kb
    @James-kv6kb 6 месяцев назад

    I was watching the rubbery figures and there are a couple of the characters I wasn't sure about so I came here

  • @starboy-zg5kn
    @starboy-zg5kn 3 года назад +2

    Paul Keating made mince of the liberal party

  • @manuwilson4695
    @manuwilson4695 11 месяцев назад +3

    Howard contributing to the most miserable era of the Liberal parties history.

    • @neildumesny4085
      @neildumesny4085 7 месяцев назад +1

      He should be charged with treason

  • @baronvonaux8294
    @baronvonaux8294 9 месяцев назад

    Keating alone was the intellectual equal of all three of the opposition hacks combined!

  • @tjmarx
    @tjmarx 3 года назад +5

    Man I miss the days when question time was fun like this. Now it's 90 minutes of dry speeches and boredom. All the big personalities are gone, replaced by Karen's and Bed wetters

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад +3

      Did we repel them from seeking office, or compel them to repent their personalities, or what?
      What broke? How do we fix it? Whatever it is, we don't want their artificial, faint hearted replacements running the country.

    • @tjmarx
      @tjmarx 3 года назад +4

      @@JemClarke
      Watch over the video again, then consider how quickly twitter would "cancel" ScoMo if he told Tanya Plibersek to sit down like John Howard told Keating in the video.
      How do you think the likes of Penny Wong or Sarah Hansen-Young would respond if they heard people even just talking to each other like that in the chamber?
      How triggered would Adam Bandt be if his feelings over truth nonsense was picked apart by a big personally willing to throw down with facts?
      Remember how often Andrew Wilkie used to have a cry and a whinge about how he'd be spoken to?
      How do you think the ABC would report it?
      ScoMo tearfully told the county he's a mummies boy a couple of days ago. His polling with women shot up 10 points immediately afterwards, and no negative consequences with men.
      It was a different time when politics was fun, the country has changed since then, our people have changed. The ABC is a woke tabloid now. You have to care about the feelings of others over facts and be careful to not offend anyone or you'll get "cancelled".
      So there is no way for politics to be fun like it used to be again. It all has to be boring and straight so no one gets offended or upset. Especially the case when even boring and straight can trigger a woke media backlash if the facts don't suit their feelings.
      Those of us who lived through the fun times just have to cherish those memories. It only gets worse from here.

    • @JemClarke
      @JemClarke  3 года назад +1

      @@tjmarx Yep.
      Care about the feeling of others - because causing folks to feel uncomfortable, embarrassed, challenged or off-put these days is an infringement on their right to feel happy and/or relaxed, damaging to their psyches and tantamount to a criminal act, if not defined as one.
      Don't belittle opponents.
      Don't flaunt your brains, knowledge or skills.
      Announce nothing that hasn't been focus-grouped.
      Say nothing spontaneous of any consequence.
      Be woke.
      Be bland.
      Be meek.
      Avoid spontaneity.
      Avoid unorthodoxy.
      Avoid disagreement.
      Offend nobody.
      Works for getting into parliament these days, and the ones to whom it comes naturally rise to the top.
      Trouble is, they're the ones who end up at the deal-making tables beyond Canberra that really matter - where the clashing interests of Australia and, I dunno, maybe a rising world power unfettered by democracy, are being thrashed out and negotiated.
      Our success rests on getting the best deal.
      Our lot made it to the table by being meek and inoffensive, almost as a reflex. Their lot made it to the table by being the tall poppies of hard-nosed head kickers.
      Who's going to leave the table with the better outcome for their nation...?
      But hey, at least the people we anoint as leaders don't ruffle our feathers anymore.

    • @chriswilkins2643
      @chriswilkins2643 3 года назад +1

      I miss them too ..You could cut the air with a knife and sit on the edge of your seat, and thrill of the chase,, Australia was alive, you could hear it heart beating ...And now its like a cold body in pine box and all you can hear are the nails being driven home

    • @manuwilson4695
      @manuwilson4695 11 месяцев назад

      Karens...Yeah, especially in the liberal party!🙄

  • @motherlessblues1565
    @motherlessblues1565 3 года назад +4

    2020 the army of working poor ; the gig economy

    • @clevelandwilliams5922
      @clevelandwilliams5922 3 года назад +1

      The Self Righteous Conservatives been in power in the last 25 years bar those 6 years which only delayed what was coming to the workplace of Australia. So what you see is purely the fruits of Liberal National Parties the most treasonous people of the country. They are only interested in corporate welfare at the expense of the majority

  • @fatheranthony4pope
    @fatheranthony4pope 11 месяцев назад

    Costello, the future failure Treasurer criticising a competent government.

  • @fuan5000k
    @fuan5000k 4 года назад

    Ciao! Bel video. Propongo di essere amici. Sono gia ' con voi. Aspetto anche voi.

  • @mattc2094
    @mattc2094 3 года назад +4

    @14:40 - wow, Howard’s fired up!

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 3 года назад +5

      Useless

    • @tomcross3000
      @tomcross3000 3 года назад +7

      @Hit or Miss Prospecting no howard did nothing in his 11 years

    • @jamesmcgee7723
      @jamesmcgee7723 3 года назад +7

      @@tomcross3000 Almost nothing. Between him and Costello they put 10% TAX on everything.

    • @fletcher932
      @fletcher932 3 года назад +9

      Hit or Miss Prospecting what Howard and Costello did was managed to ensure that the economic win fall of the mining and recourses boom went straight to multi nationals that funnelled it into tax havens. Look at what Norway did with there recourses boom around the same time. Generations of full funded education from high school through university, social welfare and one of the worlds highest pensions for retirees for many decades paid for in full.
      Keating did all the economic heavy lifting while Howard and the liberals did what they always do, in economic terms.......fuck all.
      The most stable world economic period in history, with a massive resources boom plus Keatings investment in labour capital....pissed up the wall.
      Our OECD world economic ranking went sideways and then backwards under Howard. The equivalent of being handed multiple Tatts lotto wins and all they managed to do was piss there fucking pants. There ideology ensure they strive for inequality in wealth distribution at all costs.

    • @jamesmcgee7723
      @jamesmcgee7723 3 года назад +3

      Hit or Miss Prospecting that's right he did a dirty deal with Meg Lees who was supposed to keep the bastard honest.

  • @anthonyjohn3202
    @anthonyjohn3202 3 года назад

    Such a nasty man!

    • @GA-wq8xq
      @GA-wq8xq 3 года назад

      Yes Keating was nasty