REAL MADRID SIGN 16-YEAR OLD ENDRICK FOR €60m+ | How do you put a price on footballing potential?
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- With news of Real Madrid setting new transfer records with the acquisition of Brazilian wonderkid Endrick, Simon and Martin debate Price vs Potential for young footballers and how it's evolved over the years.
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Everyone comments on his skills, but his decision making in key situations is what's the most impressive. He's a cold blooded killer in front of the keeper, and he's already fairly strong - considering he's only 16.
It's worth remembering that Madrid got it wrong with Reinier, but Endrick is a different beast.
I truly hope he realizes his full potential. And having Brazil's front 3 playing week in and week out for Madrid will be great.
Everyone nope
Madrid didnt get it wrong with reinier the competition for midfielder in madrid are just too powerful he wont get a chance to play/grow at least right now, madrid have kroos, tchouameni, modric, camavinga, valverde, ceballos, so its better for him to go on loan
@@thomasshelby5454 Tchouameni and Camavinga signed for Madrid after Reinier was already on loan, and they managed to carve their space in the team. Granted the trio (Modric, Casemiro and Kroos) were a couple years older when they arrived at the club - Reinier got there in Jan/2020- but Dortmund wanted to terminate Reinier's loan before it was due.
Let's see what he does at Girona, but Vini and Rodrygo had a very different trajectory and, in my opinion, are part of a different tier of players compared to Reinier. But I could be proved wrong. As a Brazilian, I'd be delighted to see another talented young player rising.
Reinier wasn't so impressive back then. Endrick is as impressive as young Robinho, Diego, Neymar, PH Ganso, Paquetá, Vini Jr and Rodrygo. Some of them flopped, it's always a gamble analysing a 16yo. But the thing is, Endrick has numbers bigger than every one of these at his age.
@Flávio Faive some names there 🔥
If there is any club I trust with young Brazilian talent over the past 5 years, it is Madrid. Look at the success of Marcelo, Vini, Casemiro, Rodrygo.
O real madrid dez da sua historia e casa do brasil , ronaldo fenomeno , roberto carlos , kaka , marcelo , casemiro , rodrygo , vinicius , militão entre muito não vai da para falar todos .
Casemiro is youth team player from real Madrid castilla
@@batofkrypton9765 no, casemiro is a product of são paulo, he played from 2010 to 2012 there, he had games against neymar at santos and when he went to real he already had up to 1 game for the national team
@@guifreitas2592 yeah I know but he is considered homegrown dude to him being in the real youth system
Those guys might be the best english pundits Ive seen in my life. So intelligent, educated and discussing with real manners. Hats off to them.
Brazil obviously have a long history of producing world players. If the word coming out of their game is that this kid could genuinely be "The One" you have to take the chance. You'd much rather be the team that squandered 50m on a dud, than be the team that missed out on the next Messi.
Amigo sou brasileiro o novo messi chama estevão ele é canhoto tem 15 anos ele dribla 4 ou 5 jogador de uma vez ele é do Palmeiras do mesmo time do Endrick tem kayke mds surreal tem joão guilherme igualzinho jogadores fora do normal .
Abraço do brasil ❤
I think after Barcelona were able to get their hands on Neymar before Real Madrid they are out there getting all the Brazilian prodigies.
This is not a theory this is a fact. Florentino perez even admitted that Neymar Jr was the one that got away. After him perez vowed to never let a mistake like that happened
Madrid got Robinho ahead of Barcelona, how did it turn for both Robinho and Neymar for their respective Spanish club
Real Madrid did this since 2000s y’all just woke up
Yeah that is definitely what they're doing,Florentino was probably enraged when he saw neymar win the treble with barca
@@Franklin8701 Barca had Dinho and Messi
Looking at what he's doing at 16, he looks like a generational talent but let's hope he has the mental strength to take on the pressure and the level head to handle the fame and the troubles that come with being a Real Madrid player. Luckily, he has people like Vini and Rodrygo to guide him as they have managed to the fame, pressure and criticism so far. I really pray he lives up to his potential or even surpass it.
How can you surpass your potential? It's not possible
It already going better than I could have expected a year later. The kid is a natural born star.
V Jnr is now worth 3 times what real madrid paid for him
And who would buy that ugly dude. v very good player but Little incentive for commercial purposes.
besides he's just had 1good season alongside a profilic benzema.
You know why this happens? Because big clubs can no longer compete with the oil clubs when signing star players; oil clubs will always outbid any competition. So large clubs like RM have no other choice but to pay large amounts for the best youth players hoping they become the next box office star.
Exactly this, it's shocking that so many people don't get it. We either pay 72m for endrick now or have to pay 200m-300m in 5 years. And even in that price range, it's likely that PSG-City would still refuse it, like they refused 180m for Mbappé with 1 year contract left.
Funny thing is that PSG was trying to buy him, and they were paying 10m euros more than Madrid, but the boy chose tradition over oil club money
money is money mate, doesn't matter how much western media tries to spin it.
Oh p off real Madrid is Spanish government money and they have a warm climate and speak Spanish south Americans love Spain and thier best players always go there over England
This isn’t true
"that young american kid everyone was raving about, freddy something.." "i do" (with scottish accent = adu.) so good it flew over their heads lol
This guys is going to be a future star at real Madrid... Madrid don't make mistakes when it comes to things like this
Real Madrid do do both kinds of recruitment mentioned? Fede Valverde and Casemiro were both 5 million euros. Modric and Kroos were tremendous value. Carvajal is an academy product. Asensio for next to nothing.
RM are going to buy all of Brazil, including the rain forest, the insects, Parana fish, mahogany trees, ethonal, Pele...
Scratch that, RM are going to buy the entire South America lol.
@@danskyl7279 o real madrid vai montar a seleção brasileira eles ama os craque do nosso pais brasil 😂
lol @ Keown...lazy scouting by Real Madrid. Here are some of the players RM's "Lazy Scouting" have spotted....Marcos Llorente, Reguillon, Pablo Sarabia, Callejon, Dani Parejo, Cheryshev, Nacho, Achraf Hakimi, Fede Valverde, Rodrygo, Vini Jr, Carvajal, Casemiro.
Their youth academy, also put together by their lazy scouting, has generated 300 million euros in the last decade through sales.
When their scouted player is not good enough to make it to their first team (elite level), they still generate revenues off them.
Dear Keown - we'll keep our lazy scouting, tyvm.
You also have to consider that we don't have many areas left that need renewing. Militao, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Valverde, Vinicius, Rodrygo, Bravo, Peter... we have many young players taking over the elder ones, only sign 1/2 players a season and aren't even in the Top 10 clubs for net spend over the past decade. Some signings will not come off, such as Reinier or Jovic, but others like Militao or Rodrygo will. However, the Brazilians are saying Endrick will be better than Romario. Regardless, it's better than £85m for Antony.
A year later, and I think they were right about him being the best Pele, kid is stardust.
I've got Endrick on FM23 and he turns out incredible
The next Romario has been found. Thats another 300+ goals for Madrid starting two years from now and about 5 more UCLs. thats how business is done. the footballing potential in Brazil is unique and Madrid/Barca understand what to do when a gem is found.
Endrick will get ACL injury and become a flop so we can laugh
@@jakecfc3477 For you to say that is so sad and kinda embarrassing. You kinda come off as a jealous and pathetic person, whose not fulfilled in your own life, so you hate on people younger and more successful than you.
@@jakecfc3477 you mean you want a kid to get an ACL 😂
5 UCLs? Talk about expectations
@@jakecfc3477 return to sender
We taught buying vini was crazy but look how he turned out real madrid never miss
Madrid's model is based around the buying and selling of young players, either to win domestic or European competitions with the best of them, to sell the ones that aren't quite good enough at a profit.
This kid is Adriano and r9 combined ..go check him out .. he’s very special
Right now he is… time will tell
Madrid is one club that knows how to do business and also win things. Perez got to be the best president ever in world football.
If they were to make the move 2 years later he may have gone for 120 mil.
Signing him now saves RM 60 mil.
Plus he will be considered a developmental player.
It's also about preventing a rival from signing him
Just like city done with grealish
MAINLY THIS
Yep, Endrick could potentially be a gem signing like Vini Jr. Whether that true or not, only time will tell.
This is what the clubs with the biggest budgets have always done. Even if it doesn't work out at Madrid, they will be able to sell him for a profit.
Real Madrid making great moves.
Martinelli looking like a true diamond in a rough now
Just like Martin I watch Brazilian football everyday (BFA cup, BFA league cup, Brazil premiership etc) and I can tell you he's guna be great
I hope not as a Barca fan but apparently from what I've heard he's even higher rated than Neymar
@@Kushagra.jNeymar at Santos was different gravy
Exactly. Got to watch brazilian footbal to understand this boys potential. Ignorant pundits just yapping. Real have secured 300+ goals easy from the next Romario. this boy is already better than every single young striker in the PL.
@@CA213FAN not really, he hasn't played in Europe.
Its actually looking like a steal now. That kid is worth 100m easy right now.
What a bargain that City paid for Alvarez, now that is smart business acumen.
True but I don't think it's comparable situations. That alvarez transfer will probably be seen as one of the biggest steals ever in the next ten years depending on how his career goes especially with the context of them also buying haaland in the same window
His probably worth more than 60 million now
But Alvarez was no where near as wanted as Endrick so I don’t know why you brought his name up
fan fact alvarez use to play for madrid
this kid is so talented for 16 years old, his stats are insane for his age. Hes on the same level as R9 was at 16, very exciting prospect
😂😂😂 you got all that from less than 15 games? Okay.
@@grimmcutty622 obviously 16 year olds don't get enough game time, the same thing happened to Ronaldo and Messi and well look how their careers paned out 🤷🏽♂️
@@grimmcutty622 he got that from playing FM 🤷🏻♂️
Lol
Are you talking about FIFA console games are you
Vitor Roque and Estevão Wilian are two other brazilian youngsters that will rival with Endrick as Seleção superstart in 2026.
O kayke tambem mas que um carque um genio diferenciado tem joão guilherme leva o time quase todo driblando junto com estevão kayke dando show slc so fera nosso pais tem dna de produz astro brasil.❤😊
This is another Vini and Rodrygo situation. The Oodegard situation was different Oodegard was not gonna put Kroos and Modric on the bench. Juni Calafat is the mastermind behind this. Real Madrid in Latin America is bigger than any English club that's why English teams don't even bother anymore to scout in South America.
Odegaard plays a different position lol
@@dudebro3250no he doesn’t
When dealing with players with huge pressure to deliver, clubs must always prioritize mental strength building. A huge factor of ronaldo and messis success is their mental fortitude. Shouldn't be problem in real madrid tho. Also they can afford to spend this much because of how low compared to others their net spend is
Many youngsters have gone there and are now no were. So they dont have it all. Or its just not that simple.
He is very good on Football Manager if that's anything to go by!😅
Gutted he's away to real because after they update it he's going to be unavailable to sign for at least 3 years
He's also very cheap on FM which is weird
@@GamerFrisco FM failed to take in consideration the brazilian economic boom, similar to EPL in past decade or so. Palmeiras, Flamengo, Athletico-PR, Atlético-MG, etc... you can't just come in buy our best players for 20m anymore like european teams used to do, and still do in Argentina.
youcan pay 60 millions now that he is 16 or 220 millions when he turns 18. iF GOU WANT WE CAN DISCUSS IS THAT IS GAMBLING, OR GAMBLING IS PAYING 120 MILLIONS FOR LUKAKU RO OR 120 FOR GREALISH. In football there is no guaranteed success but if you take a look at the final results i would say Real Madrid is doing freaking great.
He's better than all the "stars" from England already
You watch a lot of Brazilian league football?
There's more talent in Endricks right armpit than there is in Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
He will be shite
Seen him in the flesh and you can just see he has something special
Like what???
they said same about Mbappe, now look at him
Endrick wins the ballon dor on football manager almost every season once he’s developed. Scouting complete
Real Madrid is the best place for him. I don’t think he will end up like Pato going to AC Milan and picking up bad habits from R9 and R10.
I like the Brazilian DNA this Madrid team has.
I like the entitled DNA Real Madrid as a club has.
$dna$
@@GamerFriscobiggest club in the world. can’t knock it
Not a gable, already played and won the Brazilian championship! Youngest player to score in the Brazilian champion!!
Endrick will be a superstar
Might become.. ‘’will’’ means you have powers no one else have and can see into the future..
i doubt you do.. your just another expert in social media like the rest.
Oh shut up.
It will be profitable for Madrid. He is a new Neymar but with more goals. They call him the Brazilian "Messinho".
He’s compared to Romario as he’s more of a ‘fox in the box, with tremendous pace and dribbling ability
No they don't. They call Estevao Willian 'Messinho', not Endrick.
Estevao is called messinho not him
No, they call him R9 on diet
Perez is a man on a mission and to think Madrid have a negative net spend
Vini JR what a signing!!!
Has juranovic let him out his pocket yet lol
He looked whack a year or to ago. Has significantly improved
How do you put a price on potential? Simple, the same way they did with casemiro, vini Jr, rodrygo, tchuameni and camavinga 🤷
and Valverde, and Militao...
Madrid have done both, they have guys like Valverde who wasnt a crown jewel, along with the Vini Jr's of the world
Its also a clever move by Madrid, buy a player at 18 and by the time he turns 21, he'll had been at Real for 3 years, will get Spanish nationality and will also be classed as home grown youth player which aids Real when registering top players in the champions league
You know that Freddy kid...'Adu'..oh do you 😂
Never seen a Brazilian as bad as Adu. Not a good analogy
The boy will be quality in la liga.
It's funny how Martin always Answers to Jim even when the Question is posed by Simon😂😂
yes he has a dislike for simon
@@unknownname1941 understandable, no ex professional athlete wants to argue sports with a pompous snob that is only there for shock value.
In the past, all the top Brazilian footballers used to be like Lamborghinis or Ferraris and they were the product of the aspirational football culture of the Brazilian Série A.
To continue the automotive analogy, Brazilian football has morphed into a supplier of very high quality spare parts for the likes of Bentley and Rolls Royce.
Still brilliant players but without the romance and dazzling flair of old which I'd argue died after the 2002 World Cup.
The top European leagues are sucking all the best young talent out of the Asian, African and South American pools and eradicating the uniqueness and individuality of the international game.
That is why quotas for local/domestic players may need to be installed. it would have consequences but the end result would be countries and clubs having unique teams that reflect the people in their society.
A player wanted by chelsea, psg, barcelona and real madrid is lazy scouting. What a sad jealous man Martin has become.
Right
€35m is not much which is the risk money. The add ons will only come if he is any good.
Nah. it's actually 72m in total. 12 for tax & add-ons. so the base fee is 60m
Not much! Really!? 😀😆
@@akachiedoggy5711 25 mil in add ons
@@akachiedoggy5711 its 35 mio + 25 add ons wich if he complete it will make ir 60 mio package then for a 60 mio u pay 12 io taxes
5:35 stop putting Utd up there with Madrid. Utd aren't even the biggest and most admired team in their own city. No top player will chose Utd over city, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Milan, Liverpool, etc if given the same salary and bonuses
Sou brasileiro vcs acha que Endrick é craque porquw você não viu o estevão tem 15 anos ele é canhoto igual o messi o apelido dele aqui no brasil é messinho mds ele dribla 4 ou 5 jogador de uma vez controle de bola fantastico corre com a bola perto do pe chuta perfeito , o kayke mds joga igualzinho é surreal joão guilherme tambem tudo fora de serio nosso pais brasil esta no dna nascer craques e super genios.
There is just so much pressure on this kid. I hope he does ok and RM gives him time to mature
Vini came with the same sort of pressure nd madrid handled him well. The blueprint is there
@@kentosdikembe3934 you know ball
@@kentosdikembe3934 or he could end up like odegaard
only time will tell
@@decode3667 if he wanted to be the main player at 15 thats absolutely crazy lol
@@kentosdikembe3934 trust me and he was abit dodgey at first and now he’s gone good
To be honest I thought paying mad amounts of money for youth players was ridiculous. I still think that now. Luckily my club seem to have got the fees spot on for young players these last few seasons.
How does Football Manager do it? I bought Endrick at 16 too and he’s now 25 and a 2 time world player of the year winner
Real can't make a loss on him. Everyone in football knows that Real Madrid only sign the creme de la creme. So even if he doesn't make it there. He'll make it else where in Europe. They will be clubs in Europe scrambling to buy him. Look at Odegaard, Hakimi, Ozil. They'll still be able to get at least 50M for him.
Opting to sign experienced and proved top players is more expensive and doesn't guarantee the return of investment is good. Perfect example in Real Madrid: Eden Hazard.
That is absolutely mental. Football will eat itself eventually
I love the approach that Madrid is going with this. 10-15 years ago, Madrid would preemptively look to purchase players that were accelerating at their peak (Robben, Robinho, Kaka, Sneijder, Van der Vaart, Huntelaar), and yet these players were not readily available, and always had the injury bug, but it was the NAME of the player that attracted fans to watching them play. But now, its the players you DON'T KNOW that are attracting the attention of Real Madrid scouts, because they have an amazing farm system of developing young players.
I returned to this clip to confirm the extent of media hypocrisy. When clubs pay huge sums of money for a player, it is an investment and a gamble, and when Saudi Arabia pays players almost the same transfer fees, a speech to the media turns to the destruction of football.
Gentlemen, you are hypocrites
They done Similar With Vin Jnr and Rodreygo
militao and valverde that cost them 5 mio, if i told u look buy 3 bresilian talent 45 mio each even if just one make it its a good deal, u can sell vini for 180 mio now atleast and rodrygo for 90 mio militao for 75 mio valverde 120 mio and u payed for them all like 150 mio
Madrid can take chances like this as they can run their club through cheap financing hence the gambles not so big but gain potentially immense.
Not so big 😂
Even if he doesn't cut it at Madrid they could still sell him on to other clubs across Europe look at odgard
Simon referring Freddy Adu greatest player on football manager 06
Endrick looks promising but is way overhyped right now, nothing super. Big gamble, let's see how it goes
Hopefully it works out better then odergaard did,Odergaard had to go Real Socidad to revive his career and now flourish at arsenal
I wouldn't exactly call it flourishing.
Proof that Madrid doesn’t look after their assets.
I guess you could say he was, *Undergaarded* 😎
@@mycoshe what would you call it?
@@johndough1703 he wasn’t able to break into the Madrid first 11
@@mycoshe just captaining arsenal to top of the table and being a key component of that.
This kid is special. Will make a mockery of that price tag imo
Kid looks out of this world, Brazil next generation looks scary
come on guys too many kids playing fifa and fm23 you cant compare a kid to legends like r9,messi or even adriano
Hes not odigaard level talent.. hes messi ronaldo cr7 Maradona pele level telant.... hes crazy good for 16 we will see if he lives up to that potential..hes seen as the biggest talent in brazil since neymar
I remember TalkSport losing their head over Ethan Nwaneri (the 15 year old) getting an appearance for the Arsenal first-team, saying it shows a lack of care for his well-being and endangers him by giving him such expectations. I wonder if they would say the same thing about Real Madrid after dropping 60 mil on this kid.
Well on obviously RM are taking more care because he is staying with his brazilian team for 2 more years...not right to laliga
@@philipjoyce8817 Fair enough, I didn't know that. But my point is that the uproar was way too big over Nwaneri, if you compare a substitute appearance to 60 million being splashed out. The reality is some kids are good enough to deserve the attention/opportunity even at that age. It's most likely Arsenal are taking just as much care of their youngster as RM to make sure they're protected.
@@philipjoyce8817 well that's not by choice that just the rule they need to follow.
@@reefatbakht its always like that with pundits....i think RM is getting the benefit of the doubt because they did so good with Vicious jr and Rodrigo. Snatched those 2 gems up young. Crazy talent those 2 have.
@@alcidescollins9126 ahh didnt know that...but I still feel Madrid would know what to do. I'm a united fan so no skin in the game but RM aren't desperate so they can let the kid naturally mature.
United should get Vinicius in the offseason with Real going back for Mbappe
Should we criticise Madrid for not bring through players at their academy.
They make a lot of money by selling them...La Fabrica is the best in the world.. în the summer you will see 3-4 academy players..but Endrick is from different galaxy
Who has academy players nowadays
They make a lot of money from the academy. Players like Hakimi, Theo, Morata were sold from their academy
Paying £60m for 16 year old in a farmers league laughable. Kid will probably end up as Brazilian Freddy Adu.
Farmers league that has produced some of the best players in the world , the English arrogance knows no bounds.
@@thelegendthatischels haha true
You’ve clearly never seen him
@@dang6092mate ignore them it’s embarrassing at this point, everytime you criticise a foreign player now it’s considered English arrogance apparently
@@dang6092 being patronising about a league is arrogance. Maybe you don't understand the word?
The young man is likely the real deal! To be mentioned in the bracket of Romario...😮😊😮 🎉 Brazil seek that Neymar replacement.
Manchester United gambled on Antony Martial from Monaco.
His highlight reel looks great but it's still a huge investment on a Kid who hasn't played in Europe. It really is big clubs gambling, hoping they can find "the next..."
Why do football clubs hire scouts when they can just play football manager?
The next Freddy Adu
Or the next vini jr
Comparing odegaard and endrick is like comparing apples and oranges
worth every cent
The modern money usage in football has ruined the game for me
Simon and martin are an underrated duo
Estevao is 15 Estevao could be transferring straight to PSG's first team
He's going to Barca mate
@Kushagra in January there should be a lot of players aged 16 and under transferring into champions league football ⚽️
Nanweri is another underrated kid..
and peoples complain manchester city ruin football 🤣🤣🤣
slided city in there like we wont notice...
If Madrid scouts like brighten Madrid will play like them ad achieve what Brighton achieves ... They are two different teams and you can't compare Brighton players to Madrid players and what the are achieving and this is one of the reasons
What about Jovic touted as the next striking superstar, Ibrahim Diaz, odegaard, even hazard to an extent.
Vini & Rodrigo are good ,but they've just had 1 good season.
Odegaard isn’t a flop. He just couldn’t get ahead of Modric and Kroos. Brahim Diaz has been good on loan at Milan. Hazard and Jovic I agree but you are bound to have some failures
Odeegards only 23 and he is the top scorer on the team topping the PL along with being captain I get he's not Modric or De Bruyne yet/maybe ever but it's weird how people act as if he's failed🤣 . unless people thought a talented creative midfielder was gonna be a dominant ballon d'or winner or the next Messi whats dissapointing about him. Also both Modric and Debruyne became great at like 26-27 and continued till now .
These guys clearly have not watched him play....if you did you would know this is not lazy scouting but rather picking him up before the whole world comes knocking
Keown had the shock of his life there when Simon didn’t disagree with him and then decided to turn his point against Simon in the hope for an argument. He’s a pleb
Kids just scored winner at Wembley lol
If you couldn’t identify potential you wouldn’t have good football players. In this day and age valuations are just increasing as the value of the sport does.
Plays like a man. Doesn't look out of place at all. Brazil keep on producing these one off talents.
Lend me a tenner please
Brazil Should have taken him to World Cup- better than richarlison
He must be worth every penny tbh
Never question Florentino Perez business decision
This will be looked back on as a bargain. As ludicrous as that sounds