@@СтражПеченек it's always confused me why people still complain when it's literally free for them to use at no additional cost, it's just a button press.
@@NoNonsenseSkyblockGuides hold m1 in deepwoken is kinda flawed since you can almost always m1 after trying to feint a mantra thats why some ppls still use macro or its only me that experiencing the problem
the community really can't figure out what they want to call this weapon, months ago when they added the 3 crits everyone said it was trash, it didn't get updated since and now people call it busted lmao
I've beaten more than I've lost to and people in 1400+ are all rocking 40 phys 100 hp minimum, the guy in the video is one of the lamer LFT mains playstyle wise Fun fact it's 5-2 to me against that one guy
This is objectively wrong. (Using Deepwoken builder for my arguements) "Low M1 Dmg": Yes, LFT has dog-water damage for it's scaling. For just meeting it's requirements, it's dealing 19.8 DMG. Using only 35 Points (the LHT requirement of LFT) You can get a Legion Cestus and that'll deal 19.7 dmg. It's bad Dmg because it's a Massive investment for So little. You say normal stats on LFT is 80 WiL + 40 LHT for 21.9 dmg? Put 40 MED in and get a cavalry Saber, 25.6 DMG. "Hard to land crits": They're not exactly easy to land, simple as that-. You're also forgetting that whiffing your crit equal being reset back to the first one, you need to keep on regularly landing it to get that better crit at the end. If someone knows this, you're gonna see a lot more dodging from them than before. "Storm Cheese Potential": Irrelevant, not only is this not something that's always applicable, other weapons do it better. (Hello Kanabo, Hello Pyrekeeper, Hello Putrid Edenstaff, Hello Imperial) "Better builds + Extra Temp": Also Irrelevant, went over earlier how you can do everything you do with LFT with other weapons and get the same if not better results in damage and overall effectiveness, alongside more reliable crits. And the tempo thing is not a benefit of LFT, it's a general Benefit of investing Willpower. "Animation Hiding": Multiple weapons can hide animations while yes, LFT can without question do it the best, it's not exactly enough to bring this weapon out of its trash placement. And for the record, Despite the weapon being awful, you CAN be good with LFT, but you still need to keep mind that it's primarily good because you've gotten better overall as a player (and the fact it's rarely used like it used to, leading to less people being accustomed to it).
From top to bottom: Cavalry saber has 21 base damage, LFT has 12, and considering it only does 3.7 less M1 damage shows it really isn't doing low M1 damage more than anything. And if you went anything above 40 medium there is no reason to use the saber. Missing a crit doesn't reset you back to the first crit, you remain at the stage you're on, and outside of the first crit, you can land the other 3 in neutral with ease. A fast mantra into the crit lands on most people because they progress through block AND roll. High elo chime matches rarely end before sudden death because everyone is playing like they're scared of each other, and in 5 minutes it is extremely easy to progress to the final crit. Kanabo's standing crit is extremely hard to land against decent players, edenstaff's crit is awful and imperial's crit does barely any knockback. There is no weapon better at consistently storm cheesing than LFT. How is this not relevant? No build has any reason to go over 55 or maybe 60 willpower post (55 if you go 80, 60 if you go 85 for shared misery or for level 4 exh. strike) so LFT builds are really the only builds that benefit from the extra tempo making it more of a benefit of LFT than anything else. You agreed with me so no point going over this. LFT is currently the MOST used weapon in Chime alongside wardens and katana at least in Europe, NA is mostly heavy builds as far as I am aware.
Agree with this video my only downtake is you on that extremely tanky build abusing fist sh you really shouldnt be complaining about what you fight but regardless this vid is facts
Yeah you cooked ngl. Everyone left lft alone after the big nerfs but after the added "hold to m1" lft been moving different and nobody wants to acknowledge it.
fought that exact same bum on a 70 year old attunementless medium build (87% pen alloyed katana, heretic's and 510hp with a 120hp kit build kinda ass hp wise but cba to reprog) i hit him approx with 13 m1s with a stone alloyed katana and about 6 mantras and he's still standing meanwhile he just plays like the most passive dog i've seen in my life and he gets away with it cuz lft gets access to every talent in the fucking game??????? stack all the dmg reduction and dmg buffs u want like what???????? also to top it off dress in pitch black armor so ur anims are even harder to see like ok bro what happened to shame?
ngl i dont even use lft, but the weapon is hot garbage lol. only good thing abt it is storm cheese, cus once u know how to parry fist m1s lft is even easier than that. Crits still shouldnt proc on block though
@@grand3640 you dont lol, i find that lft is basically a worst fist. You may as well invest 30 more points for flamekeeper cestus (and you dont need to go 65 wp).
better builds bc of low requirements is just stupid, i could go the same build but with 65 light and 80 wp shrine and then save points while doing more m1 damage, everything about what you said regarding lft is wrong
@@kuramiz 65 wp 35 light weapon is 19 dmg that is not good damage, just go fist, by your logic things with similar stat allocation such as imperial staff are “overpowered”
@@kuramiz would be cool to see your pov using the left build, you can record some matchs of yourself playing them post it. Also if you don't want to leak you just need to cut the up part of the screen when recording, than your name will not show. Or just cut it in the edit of the video
@@ultrafour4530 coral cestus is beyond garbage and jetstriker is better than silentheart so what's your point?? and it aint even a godly kit, a god kit is 125hp with ~45 phys
@@kuramiz Don't speak about missing talents with me my main is 112 it doesn't even have shrine of order and has some crazy missing talents yet I manage to reach 1.2k elo without struggling bad
I think its rediculous calling this weapon overpowered with the influx of mind-numbing weapoms recently, but i can see why you think so as well. I just feel, even thought there is a lot of cheesy things you can do with it, the crits and weapon itself is very modest focussing around its consistent low damage but good crit design primarily for mixups.
"I don't macro", my brother in deep, THEY MADE THIS THING BUILT IN THE GAME
Because they couldn't be bothered to patch out cheating, what is your point
Macro is no more, you just hold m1 now
@@СтражПеченек Most people still macro because it's better than hold M1 for various reasons I won't get into here
@@СтражПеченек it's always confused me why people still complain when it's literally free for them to use at no additional cost, it's just a button press.
@@NoNonsenseSkyblockGuides hold m1 in deepwoken is kinda flawed since you can almost always m1 after trying to feint a mantra thats why some ppls still use macro or its only me that experiencing the problem
Having bad hp ring is irelevant with 537 hp and a rocking 46% phys. Not only do you have 43 posture (that high)
this opened my 4th eye and i started s holding with lft thanks kuramiZ! I will now abuse this and say its shit everytime its mentioned
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No fast blade is insane
this build is not unfinished
its literally not there at all
dawg you had like 6 correct talents holy shit 💀
Ion even think it's that busted i just can't parry LFT lmfao
the community really can't figure out what they want to call this weapon, months ago when they added the 3 crits everyone said it was trash, it didn't get updated since and now people call it busted lmao
no people called it busted til the nerf then people just hopped back on it again since they did stat point changes
You lost in chime to an lft once and you are crying about it bro… also 17 hp 16 physical?
I was literally going to say this
I've beaten more than I've lost to and people in 1400+ are all rocking 40 phys 100 hp minimum, the guy in the video is one of the lamer LFT mains playstyle wise
Fun fact it's 5-2 to me against that one guy
just hop off chime bro its ruining ur sanity
I WILL PERSEVERE❗
u are a troll
People thinking lft is bad/mid will never not be funny to me
your literally a silent heart
Was better without light scaling
great great video thank you for watching - glingus
This is objectively wrong. (Using Deepwoken builder for my arguements)
"Low M1 Dmg": Yes, LFT has dog-water damage for it's scaling. For just meeting it's requirements, it's dealing 19.8 DMG. Using only 35 Points (the LHT requirement of LFT) You can get a Legion Cestus and that'll deal 19.7 dmg. It's bad Dmg because it's a Massive investment for So little. You say normal stats on LFT is 80 WiL + 40 LHT for 21.9 dmg? Put 40 MED in and get a cavalry Saber, 25.6 DMG.
"Hard to land crits": They're not exactly easy to land, simple as that-. You're also forgetting that whiffing your crit equal being reset back to the first one, you need to keep on regularly landing it to get that better crit at the end. If someone knows this, you're gonna see a lot more dodging from them than before.
"Storm Cheese Potential": Irrelevant, not only is this not something that's always applicable, other weapons do it better. (Hello Kanabo, Hello Pyrekeeper, Hello Putrid Edenstaff, Hello Imperial)
"Better builds + Extra Temp": Also Irrelevant, went over earlier how you can do everything you do with LFT with other weapons and get the same if not better results in damage and overall effectiveness, alongside more reliable crits. And the tempo thing is not a benefit of LFT, it's a general Benefit of investing Willpower.
"Animation Hiding": Multiple weapons can hide animations while yes, LFT can without question do it the best, it's not exactly enough to bring this weapon out of its trash placement.
And for the record, Despite the weapon being awful, you CAN be good with LFT, but you still need to keep mind that it's primarily good because you've gotten better overall as a player (and the fact it's rarely used like it used to, leading to less people being accustomed to it).
light weapon should not be dealing over 20 damage considering its swing speed
From top to bottom:
Cavalry saber has 21 base damage, LFT has 12, and considering it only does 3.7 less M1 damage shows it really isn't doing low M1 damage more than anything. And if you went anything above 40 medium there is no reason to use the saber.
Missing a crit doesn't reset you back to the first crit, you remain at the stage you're on, and outside of the first crit, you can land the other 3 in neutral with ease. A fast mantra into the crit lands on most people because they progress through block AND roll.
High elo chime matches rarely end before sudden death because everyone is playing like they're scared of each other, and in 5 minutes it is extremely easy to progress to the final crit. Kanabo's standing crit is extremely hard to land against decent players, edenstaff's crit is awful and imperial's crit does barely any knockback. There is no weapon better at consistently storm cheesing than LFT.
How is this not relevant? No build has any reason to go over 55 or maybe 60 willpower post (55 if you go 80, 60 if you go 85 for shared misery or for level 4 exh. strike) so LFT builds are really the only builds that benefit from the extra tempo making it more of a benefit of LFT than anything else.
You agreed with me so no point going over this.
LFT is currently the MOST used weapon in Chime alongside wardens and katana at least in Europe, NA is mostly heavy builds as far as I am aware.
u are a troll
@@kuramiz NA is NOT heavy builds
@@martinmaroufi5608 so is this a fist issue or is it an lft one??
As a fellow silentheart user, ardour scream more
I don't use it against LFT, Jus karita, heavies and fast mediums cause they all have brainless amounts of block pressure
@@kuramiz yeah but you also had the guy holding F alot so use ardour scream for more posture damage too
Gotta adapt to the situation yk
So now im being hated for using heavy smh@@kuramiz
least sweaty silent heart player
This pretty much sums up why I hate LFT with a passion and why I see so many LFT attunmentless builds
Agree with this video my only downtake is you on that extremely tanky build abusing fist sh you really shouldnt be complaining about what you fight but regardless this vid is facts
Yeah you cooked ngl. Everyone left lft alone after the big nerfs but after the added "hold to m1" lft been moving different and nobody wants to acknowledge it.
everyone uses the sheep in sheepskin build
Its a antagonist bro..
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fought that exact same bum on a 70 year old attunementless medium build (87% pen alloyed katana, heretic's and 510hp with a 120hp kit build kinda ass hp wise but cba to reprog) i hit him approx with 13 m1s with a stone alloyed katana and about 6 mantras and he's still standing meanwhile he just plays like the most passive dog i've seen in my life and he gets away with it cuz lft gets access to every talent in the fucking game??????? stack all the dmg reduction and dmg buffs u want like what???????? also to top it off dress in pitch black armor so ur anims are even harder to see like ok bro what happened to shame?
yo what's the music at the very start? it sounds super familiar but I just can't remember what it is
It's the main menu theme for the 3DS AR Games
i 5 barred that guy couple days ago and he cant parry for shit bro 😭
ngl i dont even use lft, but the weapon is hot garbage lol. only good thing abt it is storm cheese, cus once u know how to parry fist m1s lft is even easier than that. Crits still shouldnt proc on block though
How do you learn to do that?
@@grand3640 you dont lol, i find that lft is basically a worst fist. You may as well invest 30 more points for flamekeeper cestus (and you dont need to go 65 wp).
its the best wep in the game rn u might be a 900 elo pack
strongest european player
i main lft and yeah that shit is op asf, idk why people say is not when it is, it always been op.
btw i dont throw people in storm lol
1:41 fucking killed me, TRANQUIL AGAINST SILENTHEART?? LMFAO
into the fire peak
YESSIR
bros biggest lft hater 😭
bro if u got a god kit on that build u would be unstoppoable
I am one of those 6-7 matches
CORAL CESTUS USER??????????????
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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lock in on lft silent heart it’s actually not bad
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Yo how u made that cape black? The darkest I get it to is grey
It was done with the "vantablack dye" glitch, it is unobtainable sadly!
@@kuramiz dangg
keep up the goodwork! truly a great example of why LFT is broken, i agree, you are the best KuramiZ!!!
i like this video ONLY because you used ultrakill music
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please bro i cant take another gut i just like using the lamp 😭
It's more likely to get buffed with the way the developers have been moving recently 😭
better builds bc of low requirements is just stupid, i could go the same build but with 65 light and 80 wp shrine and then save points while doing more m1 damage, everything about what you said regarding lft is wrong
you don't even know how weapon scaling works and you're trying to lecture me??
@@kuramizsome are denser than the rest lol
@@kuramiz 65 wp 35 light weapon is 19 dmg that is not good damage, just go fist, by your logic things with similar stat allocation such as imperial staff are “overpowered”
@@kuramiz and yes i would be doing more damage if i went 65 light with flame keeper than if I went the MINIMUM stat reqs of lft
@@shilohlifts so you'd rather do slightly more m1 damage at the cost of having a borderline useless crit and 1 less range?
yea lft is good but tbh i think ur js good at the game😭😭
Is a 30 hp ironsinger heavy plate good?
Yes
If you have some physical on it
Okay cool, but where is you pov gameplay?
@martelodeanao5051 If you mean of me using LFT, I'm not trying to leak my alt incase I want to use it for another video like this
@@kuramiz would be cool to see your pov using the left build, you can record some matchs of yourself playing them post it. Also if you don't want to leak you just need to cut the up part of the screen when recording, than your name will not show. Or just cut it in the edit of the video
Care to slide the build?
just parry
I think ur just good
Idk if showing how you lost 1 time to same weapon proves something
surely you were born with eyes right?
@@zikradvdThats no excuse he had a godly kit yet he lost with one of the most overpowered builds ingame,Silentheart fists
@@ultrafour4530 coral cestus is beyond garbage and jetstriker is better than silentheart so what's your point??
and it aint even a godly kit, a god kit is 125hp with ~45 phys
@@kuramiz tf did u just say coral cestus is good apart from having a crazy hitbox with crits it really combines well with silentheart
@ultrafour4530 I've been using coral cestus since it released and the crit is awful, I've literally made 2 videos on it
How the hell did you lose with that kit they did absolutely no damage to you
did you just not see all the missing talents??
90 hp 45 phys isn't even crazy in high elo 😭
@@kuramiz Don't speak about missing talents with me my main is 112 it doesn't even have shrine of order and has some crazy missing talents yet I manage to reach 1.2k elo without struggling bad
@@ultrafour4530 i could reach 1.2k with 100 agility 100 intelligence and 100 charisma
1.2K is NOT impressive 😭🙏
@@kuramiz 112 year old build I dont even dedicate myself to chime
Nogora is a FRAUD???
No he's not 😠
any light weapon is op what u tryna prove buddy
Most decent players would argue light is the worst weapon class right now.
Obviously there are exceptions like jus karita and LFT.
its not that deep
This is your fault
?
@@kuramiz the nerf
@@The_RealCheff the nerf doesn't affect the crits (what matters) and no I did not cause the nerf
Skill issue
I think its rediculous calling this weapon overpowered with the influx of mind-numbing weapoms recently, but i can see why you think so as well. I just feel, even thought there is a lot of cheesy things you can do with it, the crits and weapon itself is very modest focussing around its consistent low damage but good crit design primarily for mixups.
While it may be worse by comparison with some weapons, it is still at the top regardless 🤷
i think youre just not good, theres worse to complain about
There is worse to complain about, but LFT is the most prevalent in high elo chime, which I doubt you are playing in if you're saying this