I know these tutorials are mainly based on using vanilla and AE2 only, but it's worth noting the usefulness of storage drawers in the second method of mass-storage you demonstrated. Using a Drawer Controller as the connection point for your export bus and storage bus, you can have as many as 9 items being stored in mass quantity. And with the variety of drawer sizes and upgrades in that mod, you have a huge range of flexibility in determining how much you can store. I think it's anywhere from 2 stacks (for the 2x2 half-wide drawers) to ...whatever 2048*(13*5) is...a full sized solo drawer with 5 emerald storage upgrades. You should be able to cram on 4 export buses on the drawer controller - 6 sides, 1 needs to be a drawer to connect to the rest of the drawers, 1 needs to be a storage bus so the system can access the drawers, leaving 4 sides open for export busses. That's 36 items and 5 channels. (You may be able to do better still by adding more drawer controllers; I'm not sure how the mod responds to having multiple controllers on the same drawer bank, though the fact that there's such a thing as a controller slave in later versions suggests it would cause problems) Also, this is all in theory. Mod synergy is not always perfect, even for AE2.
Wait a minute, you can put on several upgrades on the same drawer? Anyway, I agree, it's a perfect combination to use AE2 or RS with a drawer controller, I did this in my FTB Lite series and it was extremely convenient! It also did automatic oreDictionary translation for some reason...
Yep - each drawer has 5 slots. I usually do either 5 emerald or 4 and a void, depending on how I'm getting the item. (If it's an autofarm from something that will otherwise leave items sitting on the ground, you need that void upgrade. Skyfactory 3's insane chickens comes to mind.) You can sneak-rightclick the drawer to see its interface with the upgrade slots, which is also handy for removing excess upgrades. (It doesn't let you remove upgrades needed to hold its current inventory) The oreDictionary thing is really handy - I've got a couple of types of copper in my temp drawer bank - I've yet to build the facility to house the permanent drawer setup.
I just had to try this. Seems like I could put 7 upgrades in the modpack I'm currently in. I thought it was only one, that's a HUGE amount of items to store within one block! Breaking the drawer will drop the upgrades as well, so that's good to know.
Yep. I've never understood why so many people use barrels and caches, because the storage drawers are so good and make the configuration super convenient. I discovered them early, so it never really crossed my mind that guys with your kind of experience might have missed the multiple upgrade option. Also for the record, 13x7x2048 is 186368...that is indeed a LOT of items in one block. I mean, it's no deep storage unit, but hey, it's close enough.
I looked at the Storage Drawer info page and it didn't say anything about the amount if upgrades, but it DID say that one can shift+right click with an empty hand to enter a GUI. Damn there are many minor things I've missed :D
Its worth mentioning that crafting cards should only be used for small recipes, as the card has to calculated the recipe every time. So if you are playing in an expert style modpack and try to use a crafting card on a recipe that has like 30 steps to it, your TPS and lag in general will be bad.
I think I've found a way to make the level emitter design a bit more efficient. First of all, I'm pretty new to auto-crafting, so there might be anything stupid, but it works! :D I got a level emitter (emit when levels are below) for every item I want to craft, which toggles a toggle bus after which I have an export bus with a crafting card. From this export bus I'm going into a chest which then has one import bus for a few items. Having that chest saves some channels, because you can use a double chest and those toggle busses kinda save some as well, since the export busses are just online if the level is below, so the channel is just used while crafting (or waiting for crafting). 9 items can go to one chest, the tenth side is for the import bus, every item uses 1 channel permanently and 1 while there isn't enough stocked items. Think it's a bit of a improvement.
I thought I could get away without using the "do not use stocked items" setting. totally forgot about it and spent like 30 mins figuring out why it wouldn't work..... *sigh*. gotta take your word for it next time. thanks for the video. keep it up.
+Art Vandelay Yeah, that's a tricky one. Easy to miss, and it's not obvious why it's required. Struggled a bit with that part myself when designing this to be honest ;) Nice you got it working though!
When you don't have it set to craft new stuff only, it winds up in a loop. Export bus says "I need to put ___ into this inventory. Network, do we have any ___?" The network looks around, finds a storage bus with it, and says "yes! I'll withdraw the ___ from this storage bus and you can put it where it needs to go." It's because of how the individual components work - the network doesn't know to ignore that specific storage bus when it looks around for stuff for the export bus, it just grabs the items from wherever. Since they're in that chest, it will suck it out of that chest, send it through the export bus and put it back in the chest. (AE2 might have a loop detection code that realizes what's going on and just stops the process to save the server a bit of meaningless work, but that's just behind the scenes optimization.)
I have no plans right now to do videos for Twilight Forest, there are plenty of other projects (mods) to cover that I have higher on the list... so don't wait for one! :/
+rawrReap Cool! Always feel free to poke me and show your builds (twitter/facebook/google+), I mean, I build these mostly in creative mode, but it's much more fun to see the solution in a real world :)
Thanks for this, very useful. However, I have an issue with the interface (which feeds sand to the chest which feeds 8 resonant furnaces) not supplying that chest quick enough for the furnaces. When I order the glass as a job, no problem - all furnaces kept full all the time, but using the level emiiter method, furnaces can only run at half speed due to the lack of input.
Can you show a few screenshots of the setup? I haven't tried to do this with eight resonant furnaces, but if you're using export buses, do you have acceleration cards in it?
Cool build. I think I could use this for my creative build in Sf2 right now. I was also wondering if at any point you'll do a tutorial series for Thaumicenergistics or even Applied Logistics when it comes out?
+SuperBulian Nice, feel free to show off how you implemented it if you do it :) Regarding other tutorial series, well, I'm always up for suggestions, but I have no current plan for any one of those two... But we'll see in the future.
Thaumic Energistics isn't all that different from normal AE2 - almost everything it has is analogous to something that you can use in AE2 normally. Knowledge Cores are just patterns for arcane crafting. Vis relays are just a P2P network for CV. Essentia storage is basically just storing items, only they're items that go in a weird alternative storage cell and have weird interface variants for using them. The only thing I'm not certain on just from looking at the pack is how to give vis to the arcane assemblers.
So in the example you used 3 export buses and emitters. But only set one of them. Does that mean the other 2 can be used for other items? No matter what i do, even with another copy of this, i can only have one emitter setup on the network. once i add another one they all quit working.
Yes, that's exactly what it means. Every item would require two channels, so it's not appropriate for general stuff, only things you want thousands of. I recently built this again and it works just fine so I have to assume there is something wrong with your build :) Might you be out of channels? Hard to guess without more info.
Use the method I used 1 minute into this video (that I have covered in a previous video). Just prepare a pattern and an interface to a sag mill to produce gravel to flint. Find the video link in the video description. You can also put an export bus for Flint to the SAG mill to always have it filled with flint, the system will self-balance and keep both topped (risk of getting a few extra due to the SAG mill random bonus output).
What if it is a slow item to craft? How do I get it to queue up a lot of the item at once? Such as pure quartz that requires no extra time to craft more than 1
If you use a redstone signal to craft things and the item takes a long time to craft the problem is that you would get a big overflow before the system catches up... so I don't recommend that method for slow crafting items :)
this can happen via this method... because all is delayed a little bit... the system checks "oh" i have enough stops the signal, but at this point in time the next ones are already being crafted ... so you ahve always some "over crafting" so with your setup you will propably get every order ~7 too much, doesnt matter how many you order (1 or 1000 :D )
I don’t know if you’ll respond now but I have made the design perfectly and followed the video and the instruction gets to my crafting cpu fine but when it reaches there it will not follow through with the craft and my molecular assemblers are rigged up to my system any ideas?
@@therealtkh i havbe added a video to my channel with some info in the description, hope this helps for you top be able to understand what im working with, your a legend btw and deserve more subs as your helping people despite the video you made was 6 years old
For some reason when I set this up to keep pure crystals stocked, it seems to freeze, and only queue up one batch of crystals, and after that, nothing crafts even if the redstone signal is still going into the export bus.
Is it possible to show how you've set things up? A video or an Imgur album with explaining texts... Also with description of your mod selection/pack/versions and other modifications. Just guessing with no info is often a waste of time.
if you are still having this issue (and you still care), you probably have the export bus to be able to pull from available inventories, when means instead of crafting more, it will just pull what it has, put it in to the interface, the interface will put it back, repeat.
From my experience with this same problem i believe it is caused by the export bus only being able to out put a set number of items, which is increased by acceleration cards, thus the crafting computer only ques that amount of seeds to be grown into crystals. Then the computer waits on the seeds to grow into crystals before it starts the next batch. So, i bet if you look at your crafting que you will see the computer is making them but due to the time it takes to grow it seems like everything is frozen. The better way is with the storage bus and interface filling all nine slots with stacks of the desired crystal. The reason is because the interface will que up a stack at a time per crafting cpu in the system, which may be a slight inconvenience but will ultimately get the job done faster. edit: the down side is that you have to add more interface's/storage bus's if you want to keep more than 576 per interface
Depens on what you want to do, but you can have a level emitter to control an export bus and do the auto-crafting outside of the network. But it can quickly go crazy if it's a difficult recipe.
Hello! I have problem... for processing of ferrous ore I am using cinnabar to get 1 shiny metal. I used export bus with crafting card but system didnt start craft. why? i tried every type of setup you showed in video. sorry for my english. I hope you understand to me. ;)
It's quite hard for me to understand without any pictures or video to look at. Make an Imgur album and explain what you've done and maybe I can help :)
i have multiple crafting cpus ... 1 big one (16k+8xCoCrafting) and many small ones (4k + 1xCoCrafting etc.) when i order like 20 glass for example. this stupid Task will block the big cpu when it is on "Crafting CPU: Automatic" when i start it .... why the hell this easy task (not even close to 1k crafting storage) isnt done in one of the small ones ?! And a co processing unit isnt needed at all for that easy task ... why doesnt the system use the smallest Cpu capable of doing this in "automatic" mode ... what does this stupid automatic mode even do ?! i am getting crazy with this problem ...
Haha, that's a great question and I have no good answer... The system would never know what the next crafting job will be, so it would probably most of the time pick the largest one. Perhaps it's only a check so a large job can't be run on a small CPU or similar small checks.
@@therealtkh i already found a solution for me used a drawer with a export bus till the drawer was full so I had 2048 processor instant ready for crafting
@@TheSatmanAUT This is a late reply, but yes that's a good solution! These videos are made to be 100% AE2, but in a modpack you have more options to solve many of these builds.
Well, in this video I covered three different variants. You made one of them yourself with the drawer (like my chest setup). I have just tried to build the first and final variant using the Advanced Inscruber (from AE2 Stuff). It works exactly like in the video so I guess it's your own choice what to use :) Normally I only keep a few in stock, so the first variant is probably my pick. And then just set half a stack or less of each processor to keep in stock and you're always ready for some building. That can be done with only one interface, and you can reuse one that you're already using for other things. The "channel cost" of keeping those in place is therefore only one channel.
Anyone have a design that they could do with inscribers? I'm having a huge issue creating a design for processors and circuits, if anyone could message me or link me a design with me emiters for this that would be amazing!
I have made a few designs, it all depends on how what mods you have at hand. It can be done with pure AE2 or with several other mods. Check the AE2 playlist (link in the description) and hopefully you'll find some inspiration.
I know these tutorials are mainly based on using vanilla and AE2 only, but it's worth noting the usefulness of storage drawers in the second method of mass-storage you demonstrated.
Using a Drawer Controller as the connection point for your export bus and storage bus, you can have as many as 9 items being stored in mass quantity. And with the variety of drawer sizes and upgrades in that mod, you have a huge range of flexibility in determining how much you can store. I think it's anywhere from 2 stacks (for the 2x2 half-wide drawers) to ...whatever 2048*(13*5) is...a full sized solo drawer with 5 emerald storage upgrades.
You should be able to cram on 4 export buses on the drawer controller - 6 sides, 1 needs to be a drawer to connect to the rest of the drawers, 1 needs to be a storage bus so the system can access the drawers, leaving 4 sides open for export busses. That's 36 items and 5 channels. (You may be able to do better still by adding more drawer controllers; I'm not sure how the mod responds to having multiple controllers on the same drawer bank, though the fact that there's such a thing as a controller slave in later versions suggests it would cause problems)
Also, this is all in theory. Mod synergy is not always perfect, even for AE2.
Wait a minute, you can put on several upgrades on the same drawer?
Anyway, I agree, it's a perfect combination to use AE2 or RS with a drawer controller, I did this in my FTB Lite series and it was extremely convenient! It also did automatic oreDictionary translation for some reason...
Yep - each drawer has 5 slots. I usually do either 5 emerald or 4 and a void, depending on how I'm getting the item. (If it's an autofarm from something that will otherwise leave items sitting on the ground, you need that void upgrade. Skyfactory 3's insane chickens comes to mind.)
You can sneak-rightclick the drawer to see its interface with the upgrade slots, which is also handy for removing excess upgrades. (It doesn't let you remove upgrades needed to hold its current inventory)
The oreDictionary thing is really handy - I've got a couple of types of copper in my temp drawer bank - I've yet to build the facility to house the permanent drawer setup.
I just had to try this. Seems like I could put 7 upgrades in the modpack I'm currently in. I thought it was only one, that's a HUGE amount of items to store within one block! Breaking the drawer will drop the upgrades as well, so that's good to know.
Yep. I've never understood why so many people use barrels and caches, because the storage drawers are so good and make the configuration super convenient. I discovered them early, so it never really crossed my mind that guys with your kind of experience might have missed the multiple upgrade option.
Also for the record, 13x7x2048 is 186368...that is indeed a LOT of items in one block. I mean, it's no deep storage unit, but hey, it's close enough.
I looked at the Storage Drawer info page and it didn't say anything about the amount if upgrades, but it DID say that one can shift+right click with an empty hand to enter a GUI. Damn there are many minor things I've missed :D
Its worth mentioning that crafting cards should only be used for small recipes, as the card has to calculated the recipe every time. So if you are playing in an expert style modpack and try to use a crafting card on a recipe that has like 30 steps to it, your TPS and lag in general will be bad.
I think I've found a way to make the level emitter design a bit more efficient. First of all, I'm pretty new to auto-crafting, so there might be anything stupid, but it works! :D
I got a level emitter (emit when levels are below) for every item I want to craft, which toggles a toggle bus after which I have an export bus with a crafting card. From this export bus I'm going into a chest which then has one import bus for a few items.
Having that chest saves some channels, because you can use a double chest and those toggle busses kinda save some as well, since the export busses are just online if the level is below, so the channel is just used while crafting (or waiting for crafting).
9 items can go to one chest, the tenth side is for the import bus, every item uses 1 channel permanently and 1 while there isn't enough stocked items. Think it's a bit of a improvement.
I thought I could get away without using the "do not use stocked items" setting. totally forgot about it and spent like 30 mins figuring out why it wouldn't work..... *sigh*. gotta take your word for it next time. thanks for the video. keep it up.
+Art Vandelay Yeah, that's a tricky one. Easy to miss, and it's not obvious why it's required. Struggled a bit with that part myself when designing this to be honest ;) Nice you got it working though!
When you don't have it set to craft new stuff only, it winds up in a loop.
Export bus says "I need to put ___ into this inventory. Network, do we have any ___?" The network looks around, finds a storage bus with it, and says "yes! I'll withdraw the ___ from this storage bus and you can put it where it needs to go."
It's because of how the individual components work - the network doesn't know to ignore that specific storage bus when it looks around for stuff for the export bus, it just grabs the items from wherever. Since they're in that chest, it will suck it out of that chest, send it through the export bus and put it back in the chest.
(AE2 might have a loop detection code that realizes what's going on and just stops the process to save the server a bit of meaningless work, but that's just behind the scenes optimization.)
TKH, you are the MOST Clearly English Tutor of all Minecraft Mod Tut. u are the best. hope we can play together someday... Keep Up
Another AE2 tutorial: Automatically auto-craft any large amount of items to always have in stock!
I have no plans right now to do videos for Twilight Forest, there are plenty of other projects (mods) to cover that I have higher on the list... so don't wait for one! :/
Awesome !! I couldn't find a way to keep my system full with at least 200 quad uranium and mox rods for a server with 24/7 chunkloaders :D
You do not need a Interface with storagebus, just the craftingcard in an Interface-Assambler-Setup + Emitter is enough
awsome video TKH! Great ideas.
Thank you again
I was actually looking for this a few days ago xD Coincidence!? I think not!
+rawrReap Cool! Always feel free to poke me and show your builds (twitter/facebook/google+), I mean, I build these mostly in creative mode, but it's much more fun to see the solution in a real world :)
+TKH Definitely! I'll give this a shot once I have some spare time, thank you again.
Thanks for this, very useful. However, I have an issue with the interface (which feeds sand to the chest which feeds 8 resonant furnaces) not supplying that chest quick enough for the furnaces. When I order the glass as a job, no problem - all furnaces kept full all the time, but using the level emiiter method, furnaces can only run at half speed due to the lack of input.
Can you show a few screenshots of the setup? I haven't tried to do this with eight resonant furnaces, but if you're using export buses, do you have acceleration cards in it?
Not using export buses, just a single ME interface. I fixed it by changing the recipe to 64 sand = 64 glass.
Ok, I'll keep that in mind...
@@sofadhana1289 I want you to know that even 5 years later, this comment has helped someone. I was struggling and didn't have this epiphany
Cool build. I think I could use this for my creative build in Sf2 right now. I was also wondering if at any point you'll do a tutorial series for Thaumicenergistics or even Applied Logistics when it comes out?
+SuperBulian Nice, feel free to show off how you implemented it if you do it :) Regarding other tutorial series, well, I'm always up for suggestions, but I have no current plan for any one of those two... But we'll see in the future.
Thaumic Energistics isn't all that different from normal AE2 - almost everything it has is analogous to something that you can use in AE2 normally. Knowledge Cores are just patterns for arcane crafting. Vis relays are just a P2P network for CV. Essentia storage is basically just storing items, only they're items that go in a weird alternative storage cell and have weird interface variants for using them. The only thing I'm not certain on just from looking at the pack is how to give vis to the arcane assemblers.
You can make the whole setup using 1 channel with p2p and then use an storage bus on the interface for the level emitters.
Not sure exactly how you mean... can you give some more details please?
thanks for the video
The most efficient way is using computer craft. Than you have 1 block (the computer) running a program that manages everything!
where's the challenge in that? may as well just play creative! lol
@@scottsadler4215 The challenge is in programming the computer (using Lua)
So in the example you used 3 export buses and emitters. But only set one of them. Does that mean the other 2 can be used for other items?
No matter what i do, even with another copy of this, i can only have one emitter setup on the network. once i add another one they all quit working.
Yes, that's exactly what it means. Every item would require two channels, so it's not appropriate for general stuff, only things you want thousands of. I recently built this again and it works just fine so I have to assume there is something wrong with your build :) Might you be out of channels? Hard to guess without more info.
Say i have a SAG mill.
40k gravel in ME system.
0 flint.
i want the sag mill to make flint from gravel until flint level is 100 then stop.
how to do?
Use the method I used 1 minute into this video (that I have covered in a previous video). Just prepare a pattern and an interface to a sag mill to produce gravel to flint. Find the video link in the video description. You can also put an export bus for Flint to the SAG mill to always have it filled with flint, the system will self-balance and keep both topped (risk of getting a few extra due to the SAG mill random bonus output).
What if it is a slow item to craft? How do I get it to queue up a lot of the item at once? Such as pure quartz that requires no extra time to craft more than 1
If you use a redstone signal to craft things and the item takes a long time to craft the problem is that you would get a big overflow before the system catches up... so I don't recommend that method for slow crafting items :)
noce tip TKH...thx
hmh idk why but mine keeps over crafting i asked for 9 iron blocks but it gave me 16?
this can happen via this method... because all is delayed a little bit... the system checks "oh" i have enough stops the signal, but at this point in time the next ones are already being crafted ... so you ahve always some "over crafting"
so with your setup you will propably get every order ~7 too much, doesnt matter how many you order (1 or 1000 :D )
I don’t know if you’ll respond now but I have made the design perfectly and followed the video and the instruction gets to my crafting cpu fine but when it reaches there it will not follow through with the craft and my molecular assemblers are rigged up to my system any ideas?
To begin with: mod version or modpack? Also hard without screenshots or a demo video... Is it a big network in survival? Out of channels?
@@therealtkh i havbe added a video to my channel with some info in the description, hope this helps for you top be able to understand what im working with, your a legend btw and deserve more subs as your helping people despite the video you made was 6 years old
For some reason when I set this up to keep pure crystals stocked, it seems to freeze, and only queue up one batch of crystals, and after that, nothing crafts even if the redstone signal is still going into the export bus.
Is it possible to show how you've set things up? A video or an Imgur album with explaining texts... Also with description of your mod selection/pack/versions and other modifications. Just guessing with no info is often a waste of time.
if you are still having this issue (and you still care), you probably have the export bus to be able to pull from available inventories, when means instead of crafting more, it will just pull what it has, put it in to the interface, the interface will put it back, repeat.
From my experience with this same problem i believe it is caused by the export bus only being able to out put a set number of items, which is increased by acceleration cards, thus the crafting computer only ques that amount of seeds to be grown into crystals. Then the computer waits on the seeds to grow into crystals before it starts the next batch. So, i bet if you look at your crafting que you will see the computer is making them but due to the time it takes to grow it seems like everything is frozen. The better way is with the storage bus and interface filling all nine slots with stacks of the desired crystal. The reason is because the interface will que up a stack at a time per crafting cpu in the system, which may be a slight inconvenience but will ultimately get the job done faster.
edit: the down side is that you have to add more interface's/storage bus's if you want to keep more than 576 per interface
Any idea what you can do if you can't use the Crafting Card?
Depens on what you want to do, but you can have a level emitter to control an export bus and do the auto-crafting outside of the network. But it can quickly go crazy if it's a difficult recipe.
Could you make a video on how to keep Processors stocked?
I have done this already. And the link in the video description will take you there ;)
Thanks!!
I imagine you might make extra if crafts take too long
Hello! I have problem... for processing of ferrous ore I am using cinnabar to get 1 shiny metal. I used export bus with crafting card but system didnt start craft. why? i tried every type of setup you showed in video. sorry for my english. I hope you understand to me. ;)
It's quite hard for me to understand without any pictures or video to look at. Make an Imgur album and explain what you've done and maybe I can help :)
I have fixed yet. i was just simple bug. after i restart the game it worked. Thanks
i have multiple crafting cpus ... 1 big one (16k+8xCoCrafting) and many small ones (4k + 1xCoCrafting etc.) when i order like 20 glass for example. this stupid Task will block the big cpu when it is on "Crafting CPU: Automatic" when i start it .... why the hell this easy task (not even close to 1k crafting storage) isnt done in one of the small ones ?! And a co processing unit isnt needed at all for that easy task ... why doesnt the system use the smallest Cpu capable of doing this in "automatic" mode ... what does this stupid automatic mode even do ?!
i am getting crazy with this problem ...
Haha, that's a great question and I have no good answer... The system would never know what the next crafting job will be, so it would probably most of the time pick the largest one. Perhaps it's only a check so a large job can't be run on a small CPU or similar small checks.
How does that work with processors and advanded inscribers?
I'm not sure, can you be more specific in what you want to do? Feels like it should work.
@@therealtkh i already found a solution for me used a drawer with a export bus till the drawer was full so I had 2048 processor instant ready for crafting
@@TheSatmanAUT This is a late reply, but yes that's a good solution! These videos are made to be 100% AE2, but in a modpack you have more options to solve many of these builds.
@@therealtkh well thats why i was asking you how you would do such thing with processors?how to keep them in stock
Well, in this video I covered three different variants. You made one of them yourself with the drawer (like my chest setup). I have just tried to build the first and final variant using the Advanced Inscruber (from AE2 Stuff). It works exactly like in the video so I guess it's your own choice what to use :) Normally I only keep a few in stock, so the first variant is probably my pick. And then just set half a stack or less of each processor to keep in stock and you're always ready for some building. That can be done with only one interface, and you can reuse one that you're already using for other things. The "channel cost" of keeping those in place is therefore only one channel.
Followed the exact same steps, didn't work.
Making a small adjustment to your setup made it work. But when I follow the exact same steps as you do, it refuses to work.
@@lightnesskingpwnsyou what did you do its not working for me
Anyone have a design that they could do with inscribers? I'm having a huge issue creating a design for processors and circuits, if anyone could message me or link me a design with me emiters for this that would be amazing!
I have made a few designs, it all depends on how what mods you have at hand. It can be done with pure AE2 or with several other mods. Check the AE2 playlist (link in the description) and hopefully you'll find some inspiration.
This automation is totally useless
why tho? it works fine ...