This is the best case I've ever owned but I got the black version not the white. The white seems like it'll get ugly fast. There's so many places to mount hard drives and lots of room for cable routing. The airflow is fantastic. My last case I had to have the side off for 10 years to get enough airflow in because I had to jam all my cables in a tight space
Meh-sh indeed. I feel you misread the vertical bracket though. Doesn't this one require removing the original 7 slot horizontal bracket section and replacing it? So it isnt up against the glass?
Does the 12900K heat up considerably more than the 5900X? I'm trying to pick my next case, I've got my eye on the Lancool III but it's been difficult to compare temps with all the different setups that youtubers use, I'm guessing the III would do better than this one regardless of CPU right? Can't really tell how the Lancool III compares to other cases in the market, but i assume it's at least as good than the Lancool II mesh.
Found this looking for more info on the case. Not a fan or RGB, will swap anyway. Going AIO for CPUnand GPU. Case is one of the few that state the front USB C is 3.2 2x2.
@@canarychrome7012 owned for a while. Great case. Got a Corsair 7000D now for a huge watercooling build and to change a bit from Lian Li O11 variants. Tried every O11, except the O11 Mini. The O11 Air Mini and the O11 XL are the best O11s each on their own. The XL accommodates a lot of hardware. Water cooled aimed case. The O11 Air Mini may feel a bit cramped when building, but is fantastic. Using a M-ATX board may free up some space, but regular ATX fits fine. Also it allows proper coolers like Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15 without issues. Build quality is spot on. Bottom intake is a blessing for GPU and you don’t need to populate every fan slot, but using Arctic P series fans is cheap and efficient. Only thing you may have to be aware is if planning on a vertical GPU mount, pretty much forces you to use an AIO for the CPU, as the GPU will overlap the CPU cooler. Using an AIO, can be done but then you need to measure the GPU if using a front intake AIO or may go for M-ATX and get decent top clearance for AIO install. Side position can be done but depending on your AIO the tubing can get on the way of the fans.
Thanks for your video. As a journalist let me ask you how can we use the frontal button to change the colors? I mean, do I need to plug some cable to motherboard?
Interesting. I thought eps was able to do something like 300w strange that it needed both to be stable, I wonder if MSI has some sort of power load balance or bi-fracation on the power across the eps connection
Can u guys please show the new V3 craphics card holder from cooler master since it is the only vertical GPU mount Wich can also be used in matx cases Please 🙏
@@canarychrome7012 Yup, we review products as supplied wherever possible. Mind you that can get tricky when you have a Lian Li that is supplied without any fans at all. Leo
A lot of cases don't include fans so having 3 for free is awesome. I highly recommend keeping the 3 air intakes, otherwise you're relying more on a hot bottom/floor facing PSU fan for your intake. The glass traps air and heat on the inside so getting more ambient air into the case is better. I do highly recommend at least 1 fan in the back blowing out though to keep the circulation going or you'll create an oven
I'm running this case with the 3 RGB in the front, 1 in the back that I purchased, 1 on the CPU, and of course the PSU fan. I didn't put any in the top (yet) and it's runny very smooth and quiet. As time goes on and the fans start to wear, dust begins to gather, and summer temps rise; I'll see if having something on the top to push more air out will be necessary or not
Had this since 2019 and haven’t had any issues with mine finna now add top fans after i get the funds to max my AM4 platform but with a R3600 +2060 super FE never had any major loud noises or cooling problems
It has baffled me for years. Case designers are fine with creating 470x470mm cases "for mATX" (which is 244x244mm) not to mention ATX+ fridge sized monsters, yet they are somehow scared to add even 10mm of width? As a fan of mATX I have seen dozens of those sold that don't fit my shelf, yet somehow can't house most regular air coolers either just because of CPU cooler clearance missing 5mm. Also the cable management bulge. Like wtf? I ended up cutting my own case from premade. 50% less volume, 100% more sense. Also the thing, that case manufacturers can't decide whether that should be a plumbers dream or air cooled case? Trying to sit in 2 boats and thus designing mediocrity. Finally last time I bought (included) CM fan was ~5 years ago. Maybe they are better now, but I can't see a real value in having them preinstalled. So why pay for that? Huge, boring, expensive case? That removable top is a good feature though.
I wish companies would make the same case in a vertical gpu mount option only so gpu is not right up against the glass also these companies that cheap out on the fans is a red flag to me if we are paying $200 plus for a case include the damn premium fans at leat 4 of them
It was out in wrong in this video, this particular Vertical gpu mount requires removing the back row of pcie slots and then it will be farther back and not right up on the glass.
I had made up my mind like after a minute or 2 but I just couldnt stop watching
Leo’s so apathetic about the whole thing.. so good.
This is the best case I've ever owned but I got the black version not the white. The white seems like it'll get ugly fast. There's so many places to mount hard drives and lots of room for cable routing. The airflow is fantastic. My last case I had to have the side off for 10 years to get enough airflow in because I had to jam all my cables in a tight space
Leo is such a dude. His motto should be Shania's That Don't Impress Me Much. When Leo is impressed you know it's really impressive!
Seems like the Purebase 500DX or Lancool 3 are both better options. Keep up the great work.
Meh-sh indeed. I feel you misread the vertical bracket though. Doesn't this one require removing the original 7 slot horizontal bracket section and replacing it? So it isnt up against the glass?
You're right, it does replace the regular pcie brackets and it does sit more inside the case.
@@JoshuaCBrown right pcie bracket that's what its called. I was racking my brain I couldn't remember lolzz
Nice clean build Leo put in there looks very good.
Like that magnetic dust cover.
Does the 12900K heat up considerably more than the 5900X? I'm trying to pick my next case, I've got my eye on the Lancool III but it's been difficult to compare temps with all the different setups that youtubers use, I'm guessing the III would do better than this one regardless of CPU right? Can't really tell how the Lancool III compares to other cases in the market, but i assume it's at least as good than the Lancool II mesh.
Found this looking for more info on the case. Not a fan or RGB, will swap anyway. Going AIO for CPUnand GPU. Case is one of the few that state the front USB C is 3.2 2x2.
Too expensive for such a chunk of plastic. O11 Air Mini is miles ahead. System will look filled and yet perform great using a high end Aircooler.
Yeah the Air Mini is a pretty good case, do you own one? you rate it?
@@canarychrome7012 owned for a while. Great case. Got a Corsair 7000D now for a huge watercooling build and to change a bit from Lian Li O11 variants. Tried every O11, except the O11 Mini. The O11 Air Mini and the O11 XL are the best O11s each on their own. The XL accommodates a lot of hardware. Water cooled aimed case. The O11 Air Mini may feel a bit cramped when building, but is fantastic. Using a M-ATX board may free up some space, but regular ATX fits fine. Also it allows proper coolers like Dark Rock Pro 4 or Noctua NH-D15 without issues. Build quality is spot on. Bottom intake is a blessing for GPU and you don’t need to populate every fan slot, but using Arctic P series fans is cheap and efficient. Only thing you may have to be aware is if planning on a vertical GPU mount, pretty much forces you to use an AIO for the CPU, as the GPU will overlap the CPU cooler. Using an AIO, can be done but then you need to measure the GPU if using a front intake AIO or may go for M-ATX and get decent top clearance for AIO install. Side position can be done but depending on your AIO the tubing can get on the way of the fans.
Like the RGB memory!
Thanks for your video. As a journalist let me ask you how can we use the frontal button to change the colors? I mean, do I need to plug some cable to motherboard?
Nothing like Leo angrily taking a computer chassis apart.
hi, is this better or Cooler Master Masterbox 500?
bcuz Cooler Master Masterbox 500 has better view i'm wonder btwn these.
Interesting. I thought eps was able to do something like 300w strange that it needed both to be stable, I wonder if MSI has some sort of power load balance or bi-fracation on the power across the eps connection
Agreed, and it may have been fine, but having things break during a video is bad news so ... power supply swap.
Leo
Deepcool Ak620 Zero Dark dual tower cooler would look great in this case and fits better than Noctua.
Pretty decent array of connectors on the front.
Can u guys please show the new V3 craphics card holder from cooler master since it is the only vertical GPU mount Wich can also be used in matx cases
Please 🙏
Not a bad case, but it does seem a little overpriced - so many cases today, im lost even trying to follow what to consider anymore !
How is it with EM leakage when turned on?
Why not move one of the front fans to the rear and then you get an included one at the back?
I think intake is quite critical on a case like this - and I guess he tested as it was supplied out of the box
@@canarychrome7012 Yup, we review products as supplied wherever possible. Mind you that can get tricky when you have a Lian Li that is supplied without any fans at all.
Leo
A lot of cases don't include fans so having 3 for free is awesome. I highly recommend keeping the 3 air intakes, otherwise you're relying more on a hot bottom/floor facing PSU fan for your intake. The glass traps air and heat on the inside so getting more ambient air into the case is better. I do highly recommend at least 1 fan in the back blowing out though to keep the circulation going or you'll create an oven
Hate accessory rails on cases as they are always easily lost and then you can’t secure the HDD anymore.
Noise level is pretty decent as is think would skip the fans in the top of the case.
I'm running this case with the 3 RGB in the front, 1 in the back that I purchased, 1 on the CPU, and of course the PSU fan. I didn't put any in the top (yet) and it's runny very smooth and quiet. As time goes on and the fans start to wear, dust begins to gather, and summer temps rise; I'll see if having something on the top to push more air out will be necessary or not
Had this since 2019 and haven’t had any issues with mine finna now add top fans after i get the funds to max my AM4 platform but with a R3600 +2060 super FE never had any major loud noises or cooling problems
well thats not very exciting. love a bit of leo before the weekend
That’s quite a big case like the design though
Shame PWM fans aren’t included but that’s cost cutting for you.
Very similiar case to the MSI Prospect 700R
Thanks.
Can you please review cooler master cmp520 argb
It has baffled me for years. Case designers are fine with creating 470x470mm cases "for mATX" (which is 244x244mm) not to mention ATX+ fridge sized monsters, yet they are somehow scared to add even 10mm of width? As a fan of mATX I have seen dozens of those sold that don't fit my shelf, yet somehow can't house most regular air coolers either just because of CPU cooler clearance missing 5mm. Also the cable management bulge. Like wtf? I ended up cutting my own case from premade. 50% less volume, 100% more sense.
Also the thing, that case manufacturers can't decide whether that should be a plumbers dream or air cooled case? Trying to sit in 2 boats and thus designing mediocrity.
Finally last time I bought (included) CM fan was ~5 years ago. Maybe they are better now, but I can't see a real value in having them preinstalled. So why pay for that? Huge, boring, expensive case? That removable top is a good feature though.
Montech Sky one lite is $69. And I believe it’s better than this master box case.
if it’s gaming it has to be RGB lit I think it’s the law
I wish companies would make the same case in a vertical gpu mount option only so gpu is not right up against the glass also these companies that cheap out on the fans is a red flag to me if we are paying $200 plus for a case include the damn premium fans at leat 4 of them
It was out in wrong in this video, this particular Vertical gpu mount requires removing the back row of pcie slots and then it will be farther back and not right up on the glass.
Not a "fan" of the front bezel.
Leo doesn't know how a vertical GPU mount work... I feel embarrassed for him saying stupid things out loud in public...
👌👌
£115 including VAT isn’t too bad for a premium case.
I rather spends a little more and get Coolermaster H500 ARGB
what case you got at the minute?
@@canarychrome7012 raidmax x616 i bought it for 60 dollars
Gamers have a word for your sentiments on this case. "Meh".
Indeed, hence the text on the thumbnail image!
Oh happy day RGB fans............ You wanna watch iut mate your gonna get accused of sarcasm. No coming back from that i speak from experience.
What an ugly looking case.
why am I the only one yawning looking at this case? 🥱
Look at Leo then. he will make you smile.