HVAC (Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning) must be designed very carefully for auditoriums, concert halls, music education buildings etc. There are very low velocity air flow systems that minimize sound. But there's also the issue of sound being transmitted through duct work to other rooms. As you can imagine, it is a major component of designing a music room or building.
I got a Mitsubishi installed 1 week ago (a normal one). Holy shit, i can't hear it. I have a PC with a FD R5 case with all noctua 140mm fans on the lowers RPM they can operate, and my PC is louder then the AC. The outer body is also insanely quite. The only time i hear the inner body fan work is when i turn off everything and go to bed. But man, i'm really impressed.
How are they for soundproofing? By that, I mean: Does sound in the room travel through to unit inside to the unit outside? Could people here the music inside the house through the unit outside the house?
It's so weird I had this really random question and googled it and a video came up. Im glad other people dont want the air conditioner to randomly kick in at the good quiet part of the song
I have a cheapie that I installed my self, a Pioneer heat pump, and it's damn near silent. I don't know how many years it'll stay that way, but for now, it really fits the bill. Between the unit, the vac pump, hangers, and electrical supplies, it cost a total of $800. I couldn't be happier.
thank u sooooo much for that honest "pull no punches" truthful review of a ductless a/c. thanks to you, i now know that tapping into my HVAC unit for my home studio. thanks again!
What's your advise for people who live in tropical climate and who need to have the aircon running all the time. Is it worth to spend a lot of money on good audio equipment? Or should the first Investment be to get the most quiet aircon?
Sorry to hear that The AC system you picked is a dud. But, I must thank you for your honesty. So perhaps now, We'll learn from your bad experience. All the best !
I'm sorry you seemed to have either chosen the wrong AC unit, had a crazy bad installation, your settings must be all all screwed up or all of the above. Let me qualify this by stating that I live in Jamaica and the environs couldn't be more different. However, if its quiet cooling you are after..generally the inverter split unit, ductless variant of that offering by Panasonic is brilliant! I have had installed no less than a dozen units and each operate almost below audible levels..I sleep with these units on, listen to music and watch TV without even a whisper of noise. I suggest you try setting the temperature, fix the angle of flap and directional fins so they do not move (essentially killing the motor noises) and set it to the lowest fan setting without any auto features or bells and whistles at all. If that doesn't work..you definitely got a dud or was ripped off by the contactor or both. Good luck!
Don't have experience with that particular brand of air conditioner, but these kinds of aircons usually have a quiet mode that can be quite effective although it may take a while longer for the room to reach the set temperature. That can be solved by having the aircon running for about 15 minutes or so before you need to use the room.
Not all mini splits are garbage. Just like audio equipment, HVACR has every lvl of quality and compromise. It’s funny as I recognize the unit You have! I serviced a few used in school offices and a paint laboratory. That brand You have is noisy! The sound You made mimicking the louvre was spot on!
We put in 6 tons of multi zone Mitsubishi mini splits into our 3500 sq ft Barndo, it is quiet and highly energy efficient. It sounds like the LG was the mistake, not the technology. The only time it is noticed is when I make a recording, but it is more the air movement than the unit, so I shut it off for recording, but for day to day living it is remarkably quiet, way more quiet than a central air system.
Mitsubishi makes some premium systems!!! One theater/ venue I was at in Japan actually had flared vents, sorta like a subwoofer port....it was absolutely SILENT!!!😳
Central air with giant round ceiling registers is the way to go. The bigger the better, so the air just falls out instead of being forced out at speed. We used round registers that were about three feet across. It sounded like a freight train in the hallway, but was silent in the listening rooms.
Paul, you need an A/C vent system that uses flared vents...almost like a flared port on a subwoofer cabinet... I was in either a theater or musical venue in Japan...the air conditioning system was absolutely SILENT!!!...but Excellent airflow!!! Felt very good!!!😁👍🏻
Mitsubishi is the way to go. I had a split system installed in my sister-in-law's house when I renovated the second story. It is extremely quiet and what I will install in my dedicated listening room when I build it.
i am in the uk, and have a split system like you, its a Mitsubishi system and is so quiet [on low fan speed] that the only way [apart from the cold air] to tale if its on, is the green LED indicator...we are very pleased! ....
Hello Paul, We have three of these units in our theatre at the church, The vanes move slowly to distribute the air flow about the room. The vanes are quiet. The fan inside has three speeds and after the initial cooling or heating has taken place, they run very quietly. Our major concern is the pumps that take the condensate away. The water is pumped up the wall and out to the roof. Those little pumps are very noisy and run only when needed. When they malfunction, the condensate runs down the wall under the unit. Messy. Those were, however, the only option in our historic building.
Ductless HVAC that employs inverter technology is the best for audio and video rooms. That said, users cannot maintain lower/higher temps when the room is not in use as the air handler's fan has to run at much higher speeds to bring the room to a comfortable temperature within a brief period of time. If the room temperature is kept at a constant, the variable-speed fan in the air handler will run at a very low speed continuously and will be barely audible. That is easily the most quiet option for spaces requiring both heating and cooling, depending on the season.
Lol. I'm struggling with choosing a mini-split replacement for my studio right now. Only this will be the third time in 13 years that I've had to replace the whole unit!! So yeah I also think these are not that great. But the reason I chose to go mini-split ductless was that the HVAC guy said it would take up all my loft space to install a traditional quiet ducted system. Do you have any thoughts on just how much room you will need to add quiet ductwork like you say you wish you had? Cheers! Lij
Well, Paul ... we have 3 of this type of Heat-pump units (since they cool in summer and heat in winter) in our home, and one is in my recording studio!! They are manufactured by GREE, and since I am in Hungary and most homes are retrofitted with AC of this split type, since our homes are built like 'bunkers' .. brick, masonry, concrete, etc. and not too flexiblefor routing AC/Heating ducts once they are built, these units are the ONLY option (window units are totally out because of the style windows they use here .. like at the north pole or Mt.Washington !!) ... All I can say is that there must be something wrong with your LG (amazing, since that is a good brand) .. or the series you had installed, since our GREE is whisper quiet, even if in the air panel directors in SWING mode, but definitely quiet when fixed in a position as yours indicates in this video. The only time it becomes .. noticeable .. NOT objectionable .. is when the room is allowed to get too warm (unit off for awhile) and then the system turned on (AUTO MODE) .. the fan goes into extra high or TURBO mode, and until the set temperature is reached, slows down to low circulation mode. The compressor unit is outside our bunker-like well insulated home and is TOTALLY quiet as far as inside, and barely making a faint buzzing sound outside. As a matter of fact it makes more noise outside during the winter heating season when occasionally it DEFROSTS the coils from icing up. Then it makes a loud 'whooshing' sound for about 5-6 seconds and not a peep for another couple of hours! The only problem with this setup is that if the compressor is farther than a couple of meters from the inside evaporator unit, additional copper tubing costs a lot, and also additional FREON has to be added vs. what the unit comes with from the factory. Needless to say water or moisture drainage pipe channeling is also required from the inside unit and a slant is needed for the piping to drain the moisture away from the inside section. As far as it being UGLY .. well, if that is the choice between being 'cool or warm' vs. 'sweating and freezing' .. I'd rather look at the white unit on the wall vs. nothing at all! The only problem I can see with this type of units AND the window units .. is that they tend to be 'drafty' and concentrate cool or warm in the area of the unit itself, whereas with a ducted central air conditioning and heating system it is more evenly distributed, especially in a larger room or building. Not knowing how your listening rooms are set up and their size, maybe that is the problem, more than noise. In response to one person who already mentioned maybe replacing the indoor LG unit with another brand, I would think the outside unit would need to be changed to the same brand, but the copper tubing, and water drainage tubing would remain the same, as the electrical connections .. so no need to bust into the walls. And assuming the indoor unit wall mount is similar in size, can cover the removed existing LG unit bracket, so no need to repaint your listening room wall! Fittings for the Freon lines I would assume also to be similar if not the same or a direct replacement hookup.
For an audio room (listening, recording, mixing) the HVAC system should be implemented with any active components as far away as possible. Getting the compressor out or on the roof is a good first step but the inside unit is still active (fan) and noisy. There are some units that are more subtle and use fan control that allows a very low rotation speed while others opt to use intermittent fan operation at higher speeds (don't put such a unit in your bedroom). Having the active inside unit far away and using large cross section ducts with heavy rubber dampening pads is the way to go. And the last direction change in the ducts needs to be as far away as possible. And grills need to point horizontally to present as low a resistance to the flow and also not direct the sound of the flow downwards. Or put the inside unit behind your seating location and listen loud. Much cheaper.
This is what mechanical engineers are paid to design. Tell them the application and any one worth his salt will specify one that meets or exceeds your noise requirements. Live and learn. This is one time I can recommend that you replace the system. A split system with a terminal evaporator coil and fan was the worst possible choice. A remote rooftop package unit with flexible supply and return ductwork with multiple diffusers in each room would have been far better. Did you use an engineering consulting firm or just rely on the contractor? What about the recording studio?
My Mitsubishi is VERY quiet, it's 3 years old and the only way I know it's on is if I walk by and feel the breeze. Your LG may need a new fan because of faulty bearings. LG is a highly regarded brand. I would get someone in (not the installer) and have them look into the problem.
If I can afford a 50,000 USD + audio system, I'd probably be also to be able to live in a neighborhood where my nearest neighbor would probably be at least 14,0000 feet away from my listening room allowing me to listen at full blast 115 dB SPL with windows and doors wide open without incurring neighbor angst.
Hi Paul, I had a separate studio building awhile back and used a Mitsubishi ductless system. Definitely not silent. But quiet. Being in Texas it kept the room as cool as a flower shop if I wanted it that way. Sorry that your unit is not performing well :(
I first noticed that AC in one of your early videos of that room and thought it was a weird place to put it. I thought it would make the whole front area of the room, where all the electronics and speakers would be, look ugly and I was right.
I need to extremely careful here referencing LG but there is a button on the remote labeled "Fan Speed." Running the fan at 2 or 3, rather than auto, will make the unit very quiet indeed. I had an LG mini-split for almost 5 years and recently replaced it with a Fujitsu. Noise from airflow was never an issue, even in a bedroom, even while sleeping. LG is one of the 3 (maybe 2) largest HVAC manufacturers in the world and mini-splits are a huge portion of their sales.
Also there are air conditioning installers that are part scientist, engineer, that really know what they do. Then there are guys that kind of wing it and get your system up and running, but later when you have very expensive problems because of a bad, sloppy, install....could care less. Air guys are a lot like auto mechanics. If you find a good one who who does not rob you and takes care of you ....hold on to them.
Paul, as others have mentioned, just remove the LG and install a Mitsubishi Mr. Slim in the same space. What i use in my 5.1 room - will solve your problem.
@@PaulmcgowanpsaudioI'd focus on the showroom where it matters most. Best to have a Mitsubishi dealer over to know what's what. www.ductlessair.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mitsubishi-mr-slim.pdf
I think you got a bad model/brand, or its just underpowered for the room and distance from the external unit. These are fairly common in Europe, and cost waaaaay less for home use. The little flap is usually noisy, but only when it "boots up", then its dead silent. The only concern is they might rattle when the bass hits.
Hey Paul, I think you could start asking us subscribers for help sometime.... some of us are pro architects, engineers etc... and we could have avoided you the split system. These things are noisy for a hifi room and by all standards.
LG?? For an OLED TV, sure. I agree with half the people on this thread: shoulda gone with a Japanese name, Mitsubishi or Daikin. Pretty sure they invented this sort of little standalone unit, and almost every house in Japan and most offices have had them since then. Mine is dead quiet on low mode, barely audible on regular, and only makes a fuss of itself on turbo.
Paul, I watch and love your videos, but I have to call you out on this one. In a previous video, the air conditioner came on, and you stated you have to comment on this later. Now, you came up with a "Hey Paul" letter questioning about air conditioning. I have known for a long time, these questions are fabricated for you to talk about the topic of your choice. That's O.K. I suggest you skip the fake questionnaire, and just speak your mind. We are listening.
Thanks but the questions are real and I have nearly 4,000 of them. The topics range from everything imaginable. I certainly admit to spending a good deal of time weeding through the many questions until I find one that appeals to me (and I hope) the audience. They are certainly curated and, I'll also admit to combining a few together to form one. But I don't make them up.
LG make six different indoor wall mounted units it’s up to the knowledge of the contractor doing the installation to know which one to pick for a library or a bedroom or a music room. True that location was not the best it should be in the back of the room throwing the air towards the longest distance on top of that right in front facing a human ear 👂. Depending on which model wall mount air handler your contractor installed if you’re lucky there’s a setting called quiet mode it will run the blower fan at the absolute lowest speed. And yes when you turn on the ad automatic air direction movement the little motors will make noise at times of listening in a music room you would want to turn that feature off. In this situation you may have been better with that unit mounted in the back of the room or what was called a low static duct indoor air handler that you can also add baffles or sound deadening material on the inside of ducting just above the ceiling or hanging below. In this situation if the contractor was told “it was the most important thing “quiet”then he made an error in judgment on placement and type of indoor ductless air handler. When I was in your room last week listening to the IRS system the first thing I noticed was the sound from the air conditioning.
HVAC (Heating Ventilation Air Conditioning) must be designed very carefully for auditoriums, concert halls, music education buildings etc. There are very low velocity air flow systems that minimize sound. But there's also the issue of sound being transmitted through duct work to other rooms. As you can imagine, it is a major component of designing a music room or building.
Mitsubishi make the quietest split systems. MSZ-GE series. We have them in our recording studio. Measured ~ 23 dB on quiet mode 20 cm from the outlet.
I got a Mitsubishi installed 1 week ago (a normal one). Holy shit, i can't hear it. I have a PC with a FD R5 case with all noctua 140mm fans on the lowers RPM they can operate, and my PC is louder then the AC. The outer body is also insanely quite.
The only time i hear the inner body fan work is when i turn off everything and go to bed. But man, i'm really impressed.
How are they for soundproofing? By that, I mean: Does sound in the room travel through to unit inside to the unit outside? Could people here the music inside the house through the unit outside the house?
It's so weird I had this really random question and googled it and a video came up. Im glad other people dont want the air conditioner to randomly kick in at the good quiet part of the song
I have a cheapie that I installed my self, a Pioneer heat pump, and it's damn near silent. I don't know how many years it'll stay that way, but for now, it really fits the bill. Between the unit, the vac pump, hangers, and electrical supplies, it cost a total of $800. I couldn't be happier.
mitsubishi ones always rocked when I used them overseas...asia. was so impressed bought my mom one for her living room.
thank u sooooo much for that honest "pull no punches" truthful review of a ductless a/c. thanks to you, i now know that tapping into my HVAC unit for my home studio. thanks again!
What's your advise for people who live in tropical climate and who need to have the aircon running all the time. Is it worth to spend a lot of money on good audio equipment? Or should the first Investment be to get the most quiet aircon?
Sorry to hear that The AC system you picked is a dud. But, I must thank you for your honesty. So perhaps now, We'll learn from your bad experience. All the best !
I'm sorry you seemed to have either chosen the wrong AC unit, had a crazy bad installation, your settings must be all all screwed up or all of the above.
Let me qualify this by stating that I live in Jamaica and the environs couldn't be more different. However, if its quiet cooling you are after..generally the inverter split unit, ductless variant of that offering by Panasonic is brilliant! I have had installed no less than a dozen units and each operate almost below audible levels..I sleep with these units on, listen to music and watch TV without even a whisper of noise.
I suggest you try setting the temperature, fix the angle of flap and directional fins so they do not move (essentially killing the motor noises) and set it to the lowest fan setting without any auto features or bells and whistles at all. If that doesn't work..you definitely got a dud or was ripped off by the contactor or both. Good luck!
Don't have experience with that particular brand of air conditioner, but these kinds of aircons usually have a quiet mode that can be quite effective although it may take a while longer for the room to reach the set temperature. That can be solved by having the aircon running for about 15 minutes or so before you need to use the room.
Not all mini splits are garbage.
Just like audio equipment, HVACR has every lvl of quality and compromise.
It’s funny as I recognize the unit You have! I serviced a few used in school offices and a paint laboratory.
That brand You have is noisy!
The sound You made mimicking the louvre was spot on!
We put in 6 tons of multi zone Mitsubishi mini splits into our 3500 sq ft Barndo, it is quiet and highly energy efficient. It sounds like the LG was the mistake, not the technology. The only time it is noticed is when I make a recording, but it is more the air movement than the unit, so I shut it off for recording, but for day to day living it is remarkably quiet, way more quiet than a central air system.
Mitsubishi makes some premium systems!!! One theater/ venue I was at in Japan actually had flared vents, sorta like a subwoofer port....it was absolutely SILENT!!!😳
Spot on the Mitsubishi MSZ-GE series is the quietest on the market.
Hey Paul
Please try the Mitsubishi Air conditioner. They are efficient and silent. Specially if you don't use the fan blower function.
Central air with giant round ceiling registers is the way to go. The bigger the better, so the air just falls out instead of being forced out at speed. We used round registers that were about three feet across. It sounded like a freight train in the hallway, but was silent in the listening rooms.
Thanks Paul. In the same situation pre purchase, and you just saved me a chunk of change! Regards.
You can probably mitigate the noise a bit by taking the plastic cover and sticking Bitumen acoustic mats on the inside. It works for cars!
An honest audiophile review from Paul silence is golden from a good A/c
What honesty - amazing - real life experience beats all the anecdotes.!
Paul, you need an A/C vent system that uses flared vents...almost like a flared port on a subwoofer cabinet... I was in either a theater or musical venue in Japan...the air conditioning system was absolutely SILENT!!!...but Excellent airflow!!! Felt very good!!!😁👍🏻
Mitsubishi is the way to go. I had a split system installed in my sister-in-law's house when I renovated the second story. It is extremely quiet and what I will install in my dedicated listening room when I build it.
If you can mock your own arrogance, then you have earned the right to be arrogant. Brilliant.
i am in the uk, and have a split system like you, its a Mitsubishi system and is so quiet [on low fan speed] that the only way [apart from the cold air] to tale if its on, is the green LED indicator...we are very pleased! ....
3:22 "It makes these **WHEAAAA** noises" Hahahaha
Hello Paul, We have three of these units in our theatre at the church, The vanes move slowly to distribute the air flow about the room. The vanes are quiet. The fan inside has three speeds and after the initial cooling or heating has taken place, they run very quietly. Our major concern is the pumps that take the condensate away. The water is pumped up the wall and out to the roof. Those little pumps are very noisy and run only when needed. When they malfunction, the condensate runs down the wall under the unit. Messy. Those were, however, the only option in our historic building.
Ductless HVAC that employs inverter technology is the best for audio and video rooms. That said, users cannot maintain lower/higher temps when the room is not in use as the air handler's fan has to run at much higher speeds to bring the room to a comfortable temperature within a brief period of time. If the room temperature is kept at a constant, the variable-speed fan in the air handler will run at a very low speed continuously and will be barely audible. That is easily the most quiet option for spaces requiring both heating and cooling, depending on the season.
Lol. I'm struggling with choosing a mini-split replacement for my studio right now. Only this will be the third time in 13 years that I've had to replace the whole unit!! So yeah I also think these are not that great. But the reason I chose to go mini-split ductless was that the HVAC guy said it would take up all my loft space to install a traditional quiet ducted system. Do you have any thoughts on just how much room you will need to add quiet ductwork like you say you wish you had? Cheers! Lij
Well, Paul ... we have 3 of this type of Heat-pump units (since they cool in summer and heat in winter) in our home, and one is in my recording studio!! They are manufactured by GREE, and since I am in Hungary and most homes are retrofitted with AC of this split type, since our homes are built like 'bunkers' .. brick, masonry, concrete, etc. and not too flexiblefor routing AC/Heating ducts once they are built, these units are the ONLY option (window units are totally out because of the style windows they use here .. like at the north pole or Mt.Washington !!) ...
All I can say is that there must be something wrong with your LG (amazing, since that is a good brand) .. or the series you had installed, since our GREE is whisper quiet, even if in the air panel directors in SWING mode, but definitely quiet when fixed in a position as yours indicates in this video. The only time it becomes .. noticeable .. NOT objectionable .. is when the room is allowed to get too warm (unit off for awhile) and then the system turned on (AUTO MODE) .. the fan goes into extra high or TURBO mode, and until the set temperature is reached, slows down to low circulation mode. The compressor unit is outside our bunker-like well insulated home and is TOTALLY quiet as far as inside, and barely making a faint buzzing sound outside.
As a matter of fact it makes more noise outside during the winter heating season when occasionally it DEFROSTS the coils from icing up. Then it makes a loud 'whooshing' sound for about 5-6 seconds and not a peep for another couple of hours!
The only problem with this setup is that if the compressor is farther than a couple of meters from the inside evaporator unit, additional copper tubing costs a lot, and also additional FREON has to be added vs. what the unit comes with from the factory. Needless to say water or moisture drainage pipe channeling is also required from the inside unit and a slant is needed for the piping to drain the moisture away from the inside section.
As far as it being UGLY .. well, if that is the choice between being 'cool or warm' vs. 'sweating and freezing' .. I'd rather look at the white unit on the wall vs. nothing at all! The only problem I can see with this type of units AND the window units .. is that they tend to be 'drafty' and concentrate cool or warm in the area of the unit itself, whereas with a ducted central air conditioning and heating system it is more evenly distributed, especially in a larger room or building. Not knowing how your listening rooms are set up and their size, maybe that is the problem, more than noise.
In response to one person who already mentioned maybe replacing the indoor LG unit with another brand, I would think the outside unit would need to be changed to the same brand, but the copper tubing, and water drainage tubing would remain the same, as the electrical connections .. so no need to bust into the walls. And assuming the indoor unit wall mount is similar in size, can cover the removed existing LG unit bracket, so no need to repaint your listening room wall! Fittings for the Freon lines I would assume also to be similar if not the same or a direct replacement hookup.
For an audio room (listening, recording, mixing) the HVAC system should be implemented with any active components as far away as possible. Getting the compressor out or on the roof is a good first step but the inside unit is still active (fan) and noisy.
There are some units that are more subtle and use fan control that allows a very low rotation speed while others opt to use intermittent fan operation at higher speeds (don't put such a unit in your bedroom).
Having the active inside unit far away and using large cross section ducts with heavy rubber dampening pads is the way to go. And the last direction change in the ducts needs to be as far away as possible. And grills need to point horizontally to present as low a resistance to the flow and also not direct the sound of the flow downwards.
Or put the inside unit behind your seating location and listen loud. Much cheaper.
This is what mechanical engineers are paid to design. Tell them the application and any one worth his salt will specify one that meets or exceeds your noise requirements. Live and learn. This is one time I can recommend that you replace the system. A split system with a terminal evaporator coil and fan was the worst possible choice. A remote rooftop package unit with flexible supply and return ductwork with multiple diffusers in each room would have been far better. Did you use an engineering consulting firm or just rely on the contractor? What about the recording studio?
My Mitsubishi is VERY quiet, it's 3 years old and the only way I know it's on is if I walk by and feel the breeze. Your LG may need a new fan because of faulty bearings.
LG is a highly regarded brand. I would get someone in (not the installer) and have them look into the problem.
I have a Trane split unit and it is pretty unobtrusive in my listening room. Mitsubishi and Daikin make some great products too.
That was not the response I was expecting 😂 lol
I love your honesty!
for anybody's thinking about it at 99% true is a must read.
If I can afford a 50,000 USD + audio system, I'd probably be also to be able to live in a neighborhood where my nearest neighbor would probably be at least 14,0000 feet away from my listening room allowing me to listen at full blast 115 dB SPL with windows and doors wide open without incurring neighbor angst.
Hi Paul a person who makes no mistakes douse nothing at all. Good video love the sound effects 👅🇬🇧
Hi Paul, I had a separate studio building awhile back and used a Mitsubishi ductless system. Definitely not silent. But quiet. Being in Texas it kept the room as cool as a flower shop if I wanted it that way. Sorry that your unit is not performing well :(
MSZ-GE series. We have it in our recording studio.
I first noticed that AC in one of your early videos of that room and thought it was a weird place to put it. I thought it would make the whole front area of the room, where all the electronics and speakers would be, look ugly and I was right.
I didn't think it got too hot where PS Audio is, maybe there is a fan solution, (you get used to the fan noise).
I need to extremely careful here referencing LG but there is a button on the remote labeled "Fan Speed." Running the fan at 2 or 3, rather than auto, will make the unit very quiet indeed. I had an LG mini-split for almost 5 years and recently replaced it with a Fujitsu. Noise from airflow was never an issue, even in a bedroom, even while sleeping.
LG is one of the 3 (maybe 2) largest HVAC manufacturers in the world and mini-splits are a huge portion of their sales.
Also there are air conditioning installers that are part scientist, engineer, that really know what they do. Then there are guys that kind of wing it and get your system up and running, but later when you have very expensive problems because of a bad, sloppy, install....could care less. Air guys are a lot like auto mechanics. If you find a good one who who does not rob you and takes care of you ....hold on to them.
Paul, as others have mentioned, just remove the LG and install a Mitsubishi Mr. Slim in the same space. What i use in my 5.1 room - will solve your problem.
Thanks but wouldn't I need all new compressor and lines for the other? That's just a huge expense involving tearing out walls.
@@PaulmcgowanpsaudioI'd focus on the showroom where it matters most. Best to have a Mitsubishi dealer over to know what's what.
www.ductlessair.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/mitsubishi-mr-slim.pdf
My MrCool mini-split is super quiet. FAR quieter than the window unit it replaced in my studio apartment.
Can't you set the temperature a little lower than you want to
Re cool the room and then set it not to cycle during a listening session?
I think you got a bad model/brand, or its just underpowered for the room and distance from the external unit. These are fairly common in Europe, and cost waaaaay less for home use. The little flap is usually noisy, but only when it "boots up", then its dead silent.
The only concern is they might rattle when the bass hits.
Hey Paul, I think you could start asking us subscribers for help sometime.... some of us are pro architects, engineers etc... and we could have avoided you the split system. These things are noisy for a hifi room and by all standards.
Ha Ha,you took the long pending revenge with your AC unit finally .
Another one: Whats the best climate for listening music?
LG?? For an OLED TV, sure. I agree with half the people on this thread: shoulda gone with a Japanese name, Mitsubishi or Daikin. Pretty sure they invented this sort of little standalone unit, and almost every house in Japan and most offices have had them since then.
Mine is dead quiet on low mode, barely audible on regular, and only makes a fuss of itself on turbo.
Just take the hit of the heat or don't worry about background noise
So, WHY would you have a noisy air conditioning system in a high end listening room? Is this in your NEW building? If so, WHY?
@Douglas Blake As we know, all Audiophiles think logically xD
We've all bought the wrong product at some time in our lives. It takes character to admit it, and share your experience with others.
MUSIC is the best air conditioning!
Those speakers aren't a bad method in the absence of real musicians ;-)
No ego here. PS calls BS and POS as he sees it. 😀 And I love quiet ducks... quack shhh, quack shhhh. 🤪
I turn off the a/c or furnace for a little while.
HYDRONIC HEATING AND COOLING water piping in the flooring.
Daikin are pretty quiet.
Is the AAC format a better quality than MP3?
The best air conditioning is the expensive off switch.
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Paul, I watch and love your videos, but I have to call you out on this one. In a previous video, the air conditioner came on, and you stated you have to comment on this later. Now, you came up with a "Hey Paul" letter questioning about air conditioning. I have known for a long time, these questions are fabricated for you to talk about the topic of your choice. That's O.K. I suggest you skip the fake questionnaire, and just speak your mind. We are listening.
Thanks but the questions are real and I have nearly 4,000 of them. The topics range from everything imaginable. I certainly admit to spending a good deal of time weeding through the many questions until I find one that appeals to me (and I hope) the audience. They are certainly curated and, I'll also admit to combining a few together to form one. But I don't make them up.
Paul is angered by noise...
LG make six different indoor wall mounted units it’s up to the knowledge of the contractor doing the installation to know which one to pick for a library or a bedroom or a music room. True that location was not the best it should be in the back of the room throwing the air towards the longest distance on top of that right in front facing a human ear 👂. Depending on which model wall mount air handler your contractor installed if you’re lucky there’s a setting called quiet mode it will run the blower fan at the absolute lowest speed. And yes when you turn on the ad automatic air direction movement the little motors will make noise at times of listening in a music room you would want to turn that feature off. In this situation you may have been better with that unit mounted in the back of the room or what was called a low static duct indoor air handler that you can also add baffles or sound deadening material on the inside of ducting just above the ceiling or hanging below. In this situation if the contractor was told “it was the most important thing “quiet”then he made an error in judgment on placement and type of indoor ductless air handler. When I was in your room last week listening to the IRS system the first thing I noticed was the sound from the air conditioning.