@@kofuzi I see. I am a 165-pound casual runner (~30 km per week) and I am considering this shoes vs pegasus 35. Although I love the epic react's design, I still think Peg 35 is a better running shoes, hmm
Tin Pham hey tin. I run about 70-85 miles a week. I own both of the shoes you are suggesting. If you like more of a plush run go with the epic reacts. If you like a more responsive snapping feedback go with the Pegasus 35. However if you can just go for the Pegasus turbo. That zoom x and react combo is perfect for almost any run distance. I use the epic reacts for my training sessions and for the past two years I have ran the nyc marathon and I ran in NIKE zoom vaporfly 4%. Good luck on your decision.
You say they made the mistake to not lower the rubber piece at the top, try to compare it to a new one or a picture. The react has almost no wear. Great video, mine are at 248 km
I really enjoy the way that you talk about your running shoes. I like that you're not putting arbitrary numbers in your review to somehow quantify if a shoe is good or bad.
I think that if the pain you are feeling is in your arch, it probably isn't bottoming out. What I have noticed is that the Epic React has a lower, less supportive arch compared to a lot of other Nike shoes. The Pegasus 35, for example, has a higher, firmer, more supportive arch. If your foot isn't as used to running with less arch support over longer miles, this could cause fatigue. The arch of the Epic React is actually part of why I love it so much; it works better with my foot than like the Pegasus 35. The Pegasus 35 arches seem to poke into my feet more when running which causes arch pain probably similar to yours. The Pegasus Turbos don't do this as much because the arches are a bit softer I think. I actually like the Epic React better than the Pegasus Turbos for my long runs. The midfoot/forefoot feels a little better cushioned over my long runs of like 14 miles even though the Pegasus Turbos feel softer. The ZoomX in the Turbos doesn't feel as squishy after 10+ miles and starts to feel packed down. The Pegasus Turbos definitely feel bouncier and softer with basically the same weight, but the Epic React cushioning seems to hold up better. Also note that the Epic Reacts are super durable. Most of the initial wear is cosmetic and slows down. The flyknit is super durable and the midsole holds up really well. I put around 500 miles in my first pair and could have easily ran more in them, but I had a second pair ready.
I'm an old guy who only runs about 30 miles a week. I wore through a Peg 35 and an Epic React before deciding to trying the Tree Runner by Allbirds (completely destroyed at 400 miles/4 months). I can't share my experience with the precision either Cameron or Kofuzi have but you've convinced me to go back and give the Epic React another try. After that I'll come back with a review of my own.
I have 257 miles on my Nike Epic React flyknits, and I can honestly say they are one of the best values Nike running offers. I run with a rotation of Epic Reacts, Zoom Elites and Zoom Fly's, and I plan on getting 350-400+ miles from the Epic React without any loss in support and responsiveness. And the flyknit looks almost new. Love these.
@@michir6279 the Zoom Fly is a solid fast day tempo shoe but the stiffness does take a few runs to get accustomed to. I recently raced a marathon in the Zoom Fly Flyknit (or Zoom Fly 2.0) and it was very responsive, had my legs feeling fresh late. Would recommend the Zoom Fly Flyknit for anyone who can't race in the Vaporfly.
I'm sure this was asked multiply times but still - what do you do to retired shoes? Do you wear them casually (not all runners are fit for casual wear, and you only need that much), throw them away, giving away, anything else?
I was going to say it looks like you're really enjoying the Epic Reacts (based on your last few videos), should've seen this review coming! This look like they've held up really well. I bought my Epic Reacts recently and will be testing them out on a tempo run today - lets see how it goes. Great review as always.
I love these for tempo runs! These are my fast feeling shoes and they do feel weird around 15k or so, like a flattening feeling. For a shorter tempo run, they feel great and make me want to go faster than Pegasus, Shield and Turbo. Have fun! Watch out on wet surfaces, slippery.
Looks good after 270. How’s the bottom of your vapor fly’s look? Mine are getting chewed up, trying to save them for Indy. But ugh I just love running in them.
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What I loved the most about this shoe is not that it is very light weight but how breathability it has. It is not just the flyknit upper but also the React cushioning and little rubber in the outsole helps the Epic React to not "drain" heat from the asphalt. Perfect shoe to use during spring/ summer or for very long runs at the winter where the shoe will not overheat my feet.
My favourite daily runner. Picked up a second pair of Pegasus 35 a couple of weeks ago but almost always pick my Epic Reacts. Think they’re somewhere around 200 miles now and feel as good as new!
Wow!! They look great for 270miles! I retired mine after 170 miles. They were much worse. Of course the running technique will have a major part of the final result of your sole after X miles. Great video again!
Like I mentioned in my IG message to you, after 220 miles, the pop/liveliness seem to have gone, but is still great when it comes to shock absorption. Wonder if anyone else has experienced the same?
Love your reviews and "check-in" reviews. Great insight. I just picked a pair of Epic React in the same colour you have. Btw, Chicago looks so much like Toronto from the distance, almost made me thought you were running in "the 6ix". Cheers Kofuzi!
my wife had a work trip to Toronto that I was going to join her on (and without the kids). unfortunately, it got cancelled. people keep telling me how similar the two cities feel, and I'd love a place that feels like Chicago without some of Chicago's baggage.
These were my favorite shoes this year until the Zoom Fly, which feel like Reacts but a little bouncier. I feel like they get more hate than they deserve because they're more of an all-purpose shoe and they don't really excel at any type of run. Also, they're doing a limited release of the Hoka Clifton 1, so if you're thinking about trying them now is the time. I know they don't look the best but they're super comfortable and light for longer runs.
I un-retired these today as my invincible run has developed holes in the toe area, which I never had on any other shoe ever. I forgot how good the Reacts feel. Wish I had bought 3 pairs. The invincible 2 always gave me ankle and arch pain.
Still a great shoe today! Enjoyed V1 and managed to get a pair of V2 from Nike and so happy with them. Much more enjoyable than the Infinity and Invincible and Pegasus 37/38 . Less over engineered.
The Epic React was my favorite trainer until this morning... first run in the Peg 35 Turbo. Wow. Awesome shoe! Now I have to decide between the Zoom Fly Flyknit or Turbo on race day. 10k coming up then half early next year. Zoom Fly Flyknit is so fast. Turbo is super comfortable. Which would you choose?
Mine have 350 miles on them and doing great. Happy you found them again. Think I'll replace mine with new Zoom Fly though. React plus the plate. You've shown that's a winning combo. On another note: Awesome job giving back.
Agreed. I'm thinking of Odyssey React Shield and Zoom Fly FK for winter. The latter for workouts. Not sure React Shield outsole works on snow and ice though. Remains to be seen.
Nike lists it as having a different or special outsole. I recall back on the 33 Pegasus Shield, they treated it somehow with something that made the outsole lugs almost sticky. Maybe it's the same there? I'm getting very curious about the Odyssey Shield.
It's the same here. I rubbed both Epic and Odyssey Shield outsole and the latter is much stickier. I'd go for Peg Shield but standard Peg ride feels so firm and somehow dull after Vaporfly, Epic and Turbo. VF is out of this world. Ran sub 1:36 half PB in them and felt great all along.
Great review! I have a 4 shoe rotation (Epic React, Zoom Fly SP, and two pairs of Peg Turbos). It may seem like a travesty but I like my Epic Reacts the most because of their versatility - It's the proverbial "Jack of all Trades, Master of None". My recovery runs are always done in these shoes as the Zoom Fly and Peg Turbos promote a faster foot strike turnover.
kofuzi I’ve tried both shoes as well as the Nike Zoom Pegasus 35 Turbo. Out of all of them, the Ultra Boosts are still the most comfortable for me in both leisure and running wise. If it wasn’t for Adidas making Ultra Boost, Nike wouldn’t have to make this new Zoom foam in all of their running shoes. And every new shoe from any company is always compared to Ultra Boost first. Have you tried running them as well?
Mantar Singh for under 2 hours I’m going with UltraBoost. For 2-8 hours, React just gives me way less foot fatigue. The only kinds of tests I do are 8hour days-this is just what I’ve experienced thus far beginning in July 2018.
I ran in these in 2019 an totally agree. I experienced that same arch pain and also agree that this show doesn't really like fast runs. I'm considering using an insole with a carbon fiber shank plate to help with the arch pain.
So Mike did you ever run longer then 10 miles on the shoe? What was your longest run in the shoe? I do my long run in that Epic react. I do my other runs with the pegasus 35 usually my work horse. Im planning on using the react for a half marathon for this upcoming sunday.
Just used them for a second half marathon and they held up well. Thing is, i trained in them so i put quite a bit of millage on them and I'm only now noticing wear and tear
I have a pair of Epic Reacts with comparable wear. The only issue I had with the upper is that the heel loops frayed where the stitching rubs the heel, they're both hanging by a thread. I agree with about the outsole for overall durability, but the reason there is less on the Epic React is to save weight. Which is why there is more rubber on the less expensive versions.
@@kofuzi My heels get chewed if my sock cut is too low. I now use the Nike performance Cushioned socks. I can't say that I really noticed any benefit from the cushioning underfoot, but the cushioning on the heels tab feels amazing and pairs really well with the Flyknit upper.
I put in over 500 miles in mine including a marathon near the end (it was my first one and I hadn't realised how quickly the training miles would add up and by the time I did it was too close to the race to buy a fresher pair). They held up great and I'm now on my second pair. I managed to get them recently at a big discount, probably because the Epic React 2s were just about to come out. If you can get them for under £100 they're excellent value.
Hey Mike, love your channel! If you can get your hands on it, Hokka did an unannounced re-release of the original One One Clifton 1 (they're up to their 5th iteration now). Would you be interested in reviewing that pair? I currently live in Seattle but ran the Chicago Marathon for my company/non-profit called World Vision to raise money for clean water for the most vulnerable kids. I know you're training for Indy but I'll be back in Chicago for work from 10/31-11/11 if you want to meet up for a run or a meal. Not nearly as fast as you though when it comes to running...keep up the great work!
if you retire it, it loooks like a really good casual shoe, and hopefully the responsiveness is still there for casual use. perfect time for this review because theyre currently on sale (~$100 for a pair at nike website) and the peg35 is like $78.
Picked up a pair of Pegasus 34s over the weekend and I ran in them last night...man do I prefer the 34s to the 35s. The 34 toe box is so roomy and so nice! Obviously, just an opinion. I'm actually going back to the store to grab a few more 34s, at $59 they are worth it! I also returned my Vaporfly 4% (weird arch situation and narrowness) last week and my Turbos (did not like the cushioning, too soft for me)...wasn't feeling either shoe, but obviously for some they are amazing.
I'm a more modest 190 miles in - I usually have 3 different brands/models on the go at any one time - averaging about 5:10/km and seem to have a lot less wear towards the heal but roughly the same in the outer mid-foot. But then I'm 80kg :) I do have the impression that, at this stage, there is less cushioning vs new...
I may have done more in mine but mione are pretty beat now, but I must say still have plenty of life left in them, but ultimately in much better shape by comparison to adidas Ultraboost which are much expensive and wear really quick
Ha - I have found exactly the same. Initially thought they were too stiff / heavy and relegated them to a casual shoe after just 150 miles. Then bad weather made me drag them out and they seem super springy now. Wondering if casual wear for a bit loosens the foam somehow.
stay tuned. i've got something planned for them for a video i've already made but will be releasing in the next day or so. and then i'll be throwing them in the wash over the weekend, so there will be another video next week that specifically address the washing machine.
They feel great for slower pace for sure and I'm a very slow runner (talking about 11:40 min/mile for any easy runs). Still not able to do faster workouts in them.
i mention my paces for the sake of transparency so people can know what i'm doing. but when i mention speed in shoe reviews, i generally feel like things that are good for "fast days" or good for "slow days" comes down to relative effort.
I really wanted to love these shoes, but my arch insoles I use just made the foot sit so high I was getting massive heel slip. It always seems the fly knit uppers have such shallow heel cups.
Yeah, I use The Super Feet Orange insole. I have pretty high arches. The insole has been a game charger for me across my rotation of shoes, but seems to be too much of interior stack height with that fly knit.
Hi Kofuzi, I will run half marathon this Sunday and weather forecast might be rainy, I only use epic react on dry conditions, usually 10km run, how will this hold running at rain on race day?
A little obsessed with trainer mileage 🤣 I think you might just like getting new runners dude! Personally I've no idea how many miles my trainers have on them! Enjoy your vids though man 👍
@@kofuzi a year later. How long did you run your Zoom Fly for? I had the Zoom Fly for races only because they went bad so quickly. Hoping the Reacts will last longer.
How much do weigh Kofuzi? Coz the shoe held up pretty well.. using my Odyssey react flyknit 2 Im about 50 miles with no significant wear as of now.. I weigh about 152 pounds on a size 9.
the advertising hype was a bit hyperbolic (akin to Under Armour saying the Hovr Infinite will let you run "millions of miles"), so i'd say no. but it's quite enjoyable for running.
You know, I hadn't heard of this 500 mile thing until very recently. I wish I could have seen it at the time it was originally aired. Because it just reminds me of the old Folders Crystals commercials.
I've never run in the Zoom streak. But the answer is it depends on the distance (and I assume you mean for racing or race pace days). I'd consider zoom streak for 5k and under.
Never tried the Zoom Fly, but I have the Zoom Flyknit Streak, and they’re amazing for race day! They really push you forward to go faster. Planning on buying the Epic Reacts for long runs and training runs though.
Those are two totally different shoes, with GT being stability versus Epic Reacts being neutral - figure out what your running gait is like at a running store and they should be able to recommend one over the other
I wish I never wasted money on the epic reacts. Apart the fact they kill my heels after half an hour of wearing, react has let me down. Its a gimmick. I fell for the hype like most people but others lie to themselves its great
i felt similarly to you after about 100 miles, and i'm on record as such in my first impressions video, my 100 miles video, in videos discussing the zoom fly sp and the zoom fly flyknit, and in hundreds of comments across youtube. but this shoe is confusing. for me, it seems to be getting better with age somehow? if you follow me on IG or strava, you can see what shoes I wear every day, even when I'm not running in a shoe for the purpose of a review. I've been reaching for these a lot lately.
well, I've gotten a lot more listful in the literal 3 years since this video was published. I invite you to try a more recent review and let me know if that's true. or perhaps I am hopelessly listless
Wow that outsole is not so bad after 270 miles!
I was very surprised at that
@@kofuzi great review, I was just wondering your weight as 270 miles is such a long distance?
I weigh between 140 and 145 pounds
@@kofuzi I see. I am a 165-pound casual runner (~30 km per week) and I am considering this shoes vs pegasus 35. Although I love the epic react's design, I still think Peg 35 is a better running shoes, hmm
Tin Pham hey tin. I run about 70-85 miles a week. I own both of the shoes you are suggesting. If you like more of a plush run go with the epic reacts. If you like a more responsive snapping feedback go with the Pegasus 35. However if you can just go for the Pegasus turbo. That zoom x and react combo is perfect for almost any run distance. I use the epic reacts for my training sessions and for the past two years I have ran the nyc marathon and I ran in NIKE zoom vaporfly 4%. Good luck on your decision.
You say they made the mistake to not lower the rubber piece at the top, try to compare it to a new one or a picture. The react has almost no wear. Great video, mine are at 248 km
Good point.
What does that mean?
It's is good or not
I really enjoy the way that you talk about your running shoes. I like that you're not putting arbitrary numbers in your review to somehow quantify if a shoe is good or bad.
I have nothing against numbers, personally. But they don't work for me.
*qualify
@@alexoh7834 nah. In this instance quantify is the correct word.
This is great! The most useful video instead of unboxing or ads. Also a nice expression, thank you!
I think that if the pain you are feeling is in your arch, it probably isn't bottoming out. What I have noticed is that the Epic React has a lower, less supportive arch compared to a lot of other Nike shoes. The Pegasus 35, for example, has a higher, firmer, more supportive arch. If your foot isn't as used to running with less arch support over longer miles, this could cause fatigue. The arch of the Epic React is actually part of why I love it so much; it works better with my foot than like the Pegasus 35. The Pegasus 35 arches seem to poke into my feet more when running which causes arch pain probably similar to yours. The Pegasus Turbos don't do this as much because the arches are a bit softer I think.
I actually like the Epic React better than the Pegasus Turbos for my long runs. The midfoot/forefoot feels a little better cushioned over my long runs of like 14 miles even though the Pegasus Turbos feel softer. The ZoomX in the Turbos doesn't feel as squishy after 10+ miles and starts to feel packed down. The Pegasus Turbos definitely feel bouncier and softer with basically the same weight, but the Epic React cushioning seems to hold up better.
Also note that the Epic Reacts are super durable. Most of the initial wear is cosmetic and slows down. The flyknit is super durable and the midsole holds up really well. I put around 500 miles in my first pair and could have easily ran more in them, but I had a second pair ready.
That's an interesting way to look at it. The peg 35 arch definitely does reach up more to meet your foot.
Great post!
Geat essay Charles! I'll give a an A
I'm an old guy who only runs about 30 miles a week. I wore through a Peg 35 and an Epic React before deciding to trying the Tree Runner by Allbirds (completely destroyed at 400 miles/4 months). I can't share my experience with the precision either Cameron or Kofuzi have but you've convinced me to go back and give the Epic React another try. After that I'll come back with a review of my own.
@@jean-claudenoel4752where is the link to the review?
I have 257 miles on my Nike Epic React flyknits, and I can honestly say they are one of the best values Nike running offers. I run with a rotation of Epic Reacts, Zoom Elites and Zoom Fly's, and I plan on getting 350-400+ miles from the Epic React without any loss in support and responsiveness. And the flyknit looks almost new. Love these.
it is a shoe that has been surprising me
What do you think of the zoom fly?
@@michir6279 the Zoom Fly is a solid fast day tempo shoe but the stiffness does take a few runs to get accustomed to. I recently raced a marathon in the Zoom Fly Flyknit (or Zoom Fly 2.0) and it was very responsive, had my legs feeling fresh late. Would recommend the Zoom Fly Flyknit for anyone who can't race in the Vaporfly.
how much time is that?
I love when you review shoes. Extremely detailed information about everything.
I'm glad you think that. Usually, as soon as I start editing, I think about how many things I forgot to say
For me, epic react is comfortable and helpful while running in 10-15 km distance. But if I used that moreover than 16 km it's too unstable and weighty
interesting. thanks for the input!
I'm sure this was asked multiply times but still - what do you do to retired shoes?
Do you wear them casually (not all runners are fit for casual wear, and you only need that much), throw them away, giving away, anything else?
I was going to say it looks like you're really enjoying the Epic Reacts (based on your last few videos), should've seen this review coming! This look like they've held up really well. I bought my Epic Reacts recently and will be testing them out on a tempo run today - lets see how it goes. Great review as always.
they've been surprising me on a couple of levels.
I love these for tempo runs! These are my fast feeling shoes and they do feel weird around 15k or so, like a flattening feeling. For a shorter tempo run, they feel great and make me want to go faster than Pegasus, Shield and Turbo. Have fun! Watch out on wet surfaces, slippery.
@@jamjam7568 Great to hear! Will do, thanks!
Looks good after 270. How’s the bottom of your vapor fly’s look? Mine are getting chewed up, trying to save them for Indy. But ugh I just love running in them.
haven't run in them since chicago.
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Just ordered a pair of these for casual/recovery use. Rather excited to receive them after watching this video. Keep up the good work!
that, for me, is the best use case for these (although there are many out there who like them for just about every other use case)
@@kofuzi I'll let you know how I get on
What I loved the most about this shoe is not that it is very light weight but how breathability it has.
It is not just the flyknit upper but also the React cushioning and little rubber in the outsole helps the Epic React to not "drain" heat from the asphalt.
Perfect shoe to use during spring/ summer or for very long runs at the winter where the shoe will not overheat my feet.
that's an interesting perspective. thanks!
My favourite daily runner. Picked up a second pair of Pegasus 35 a couple of weeks ago but almost always pick my Epic Reacts. Think they’re somewhere around 200 miles now and feel as good as new!
I definitely didn't think the React would hold up this well
Wow!! They look great for 270miles!
I retired mine after 170 miles. They were much worse. Of course the running technique will have a major part of the final result of your sole after X miles. Great video again!
this shoe has been confounding me. i do think that they look better now in terms of outsole wear than they did at 100 miles.
Good review I havnt tried the flyknit models but you sold me I'll be looking for a pair for my next shoes 🙂
The video quality in your recent vids with the new cam is so much better than the previous one!
Thanks! I've also had the benefit of fantastic sunlight
I would really love to see you review a pair of hoka one one. The Clifton one has just been released that would be the perfect shoe
stay tuned
Like I mentioned in my IG message to you, after 220 miles, the pop/liveliness seem to have gone, but is still great when it comes to shock absorption. Wonder if anyone else has experienced the same?
I never really noticed the liveliness, but I do appreciate the cushion right now
Love your reviews and "check-in" reviews. Great insight. I just picked a pair of Epic React in the same colour you have. Btw, Chicago looks so much like Toronto from the distance, almost made me thought you were running in "the 6ix". Cheers Kofuzi!
my wife had a work trip to Toronto that I was going to join her on (and without the kids). unfortunately, it got cancelled. people keep telling me how similar the two cities feel, and I'd love a place that feels like Chicago without some of Chicago's baggage.
These were my favorite shoes this year until the Zoom Fly, which feel like Reacts but a little bouncier. I feel like they get more hate than they deserve because they're more of an all-purpose shoe and they don't really excel at any type of run.
Also, they're doing a limited release of the Hoka Clifton 1, so if you're thinking about trying them now is the time. I know they don't look the best but they're super comfortable and light for longer runs.
I've heard
I un-retired these today as my invincible run has developed holes in the toe area, which I never had on any other shoe ever. I forgot how good the Reacts feel. Wish I had bought 3 pairs. The invincible 2 always gave me ankle and arch pain.
I wish they’d bring this shoe back
@@kofuzi Same. So good.
I was thinking I would buy EpicReact for my brother who has quite wide feet. Do you recommend those shoes for people who have wide feet?
Does he normally require wide size shoes?
Yes he usually gets shoes with 0.5 larger size.
I'm at 150 on my pair it's good to see they hold up well with that many miles.
You do great reviews!
Thank you.
Still a great shoe today! Enjoyed V1 and managed to get a pair of V2 from Nike and so happy with them. Much more enjoyable than the Infinity and Invincible and Pegasus 37/38 . Less over engineered.
Hi. I wondered what other brand of shoes you prefer for longer runs? Really enjoy your videos btw 🙂
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The Epic React was my favorite trainer until this morning... first run in the Peg 35 Turbo. Wow. Awesome shoe! Now I have to decide between the Zoom Fly Flyknit or Turbo on race day. 10k coming up then half early next year. Zoom Fly Flyknit is so fast. Turbo is super comfortable. Which would you choose?
For 10k, it's a toss up.
Mine have 350 miles on them and doing great. Happy you found them again. Think I'll replace mine with new Zoom Fly though. React plus the plate. You've shown that's a winning combo. On another note: Awesome job giving back.
I've said it before, but I can say it with greater confidence now that the Epic React and the Zoom Fly Flyknit make a good combo.
Agreed. I'm thinking of Odyssey React Shield and Zoom Fly FK for winter. The latter for workouts. Not sure React Shield outsole works on snow and ice though. Remains to be seen.
Nike lists it as having a different or special outsole. I recall back on the 33 Pegasus Shield, they treated it somehow with something that made the outsole lugs almost sticky. Maybe it's the same there?
I'm getting very curious about the Odyssey Shield.
It's the same here. I rubbed both Epic and Odyssey Shield outsole and the latter is much stickier. I'd go for Peg Shield but standard Peg ride feels so firm and somehow dull after Vaporfly, Epic and Turbo. VF is out of this world. Ran sub 1:36 half PB in them and felt great all along.
Great review! I have a 4 shoe rotation (Epic React, Zoom Fly SP, and two pairs of Peg Turbos). It may seem like a travesty but I like my Epic Reacts the most because of their versatility - It's the proverbial "Jack of all Trades, Master of None". My recovery runs are always done in these shoes as the Zoom Fly and Peg Turbos promote a faster foot strike turnover.
that sounds about right for me, too
that sounds about right for me, too
Adidas Ultra Boost are still the king and gold standard for running shoes and comfortability. No argument about it
I mean, that's a strange way to end an opinion. There's plenty of argument
kofuzi I’ve tried both shoes as well as the Nike Zoom Pegasus 35 Turbo. Out of all of them, the Ultra Boosts are still the most comfortable for me in both leisure and running wise. If it wasn’t for Adidas making Ultra Boost, Nike wouldn’t have to make this new Zoom foam in all of their running shoes. And every new shoe from any company is always compared to Ultra Boost first. Have you tried running them as well?
Mantar Singh for under 2 hours I’m going with UltraBoost. For 2-8 hours, React just gives me way less foot fatigue. The only kinds of tests I do are 8hour days-this is just what I’ve experienced thus far beginning in July 2018.
I ran in these in 2019 an totally agree. I experienced that same arch pain and also agree that this show doesn't really like fast runs. I'm considering using an insole with a carbon fiber shank plate to help with the arch pain.
i ran with an aftermarket insole in the zf3. it helped
@@kofuzi zf3? I was talking about the Epic React Flyknit
Whoa!!! I am using the same, overall comfort is great, but I am having a hard time with the pull tabs..
mine have kind of flopped down. i don't really use them.
dadzilla I exactly know what you mean. I can hardly put my Epic Reacts on without using a shoehorn.
FTStratLP , right! Me too.
kofuzi , I’m just trying to ignore it, and will will just wait for the shoes’ nature take its course.
William Gay , how was it so far? Better?
So Mike did you ever run longer then 10 miles on the shoe? What was your longest run in the shoe? I do my long run in that Epic react. I do my other runs with the pegasus 35 usually my work horse. Im planning on using the react for a half marathon for this upcoming sunday.
Just used them for a second half marathon and they held up well. Thing is, i trained in them so i put quite a bit of millage on them and I'm only now noticing wear and tear
I see imprints of these along the lakefront path and always wonder if kofuzi was here... hope to see ya out there some day.
could be. but i see a lot of epic reacts out there on the LFT
I have a pair of Epic Reacts with comparable wear. The only issue I had with the upper is that the heel loops frayed where the stitching rubs the heel, they're both hanging by a thread. I agree with about the outsole for overall durability, but the reason there is less on the Epic React is to save weight. Which is why there is more rubber on the less expensive versions.
Have your heels been getting chewed up?
@@kofuzi My heels get chewed if my sock cut is too low. I now use the Nike performance Cushioned socks. I can't say that I really noticed any benefit from the cushioning underfoot, but the cushioning on the heels tab feels amazing and pairs really well with the Flyknit upper.
I put in over 500 miles in mine including a marathon near the end (it was my first one and I hadn't realised how quickly the training miles would add up and by the time I did it was too close to the race to buy a fresher pair). They held up great and I'm now on my second pair. I managed to get them recently at a big discount, probably because the Epic React 2s were just about to come out. If you can get them for under £100 they're excellent value.
these shoes were a real surprise to me this year
I got it for 72 Euros because of a 20% discount promotion code
Hey Mike, love your channel! If you can get your hands on it, Hokka did an unannounced re-release of the original One One Clifton 1 (they're up to their 5th iteration now). Would you be interested in reviewing that pair? I currently live in Seattle but ran the Chicago Marathon for my company/non-profit called World Vision to raise money for clean water for the most vulnerable kids. I know you're training for Indy but I'll be back in Chicago for work from 10/31-11/11 if you want to meet up for a run or a meal. Not nearly as fast as you though when it comes to running...keep up the great work!
Message me on Twitter or IG when you're back in town! Maybe we can make it work.
if you retire it, it loooks like a really good casual shoe, and hopefully the responsiveness is still there for casual use. perfect time for this review because theyre currently on sale (~$100 for a pair at nike website) and the peg35 is like $78.
pegs are so cheap right now! tempted to pick one up out of principle
found this channel last night been wondering how many times a week you run because u seem to run alot :D
6 or 7.
thanks for the review!
thanks for watching!
Nice detailed review
thanks for watching!
Picked up a pair of Pegasus 34s over the weekend and I ran in them last night...man do I prefer the 34s to the 35s. The 34 toe box is so roomy and so nice! Obviously, just an opinion. I'm actually going back to the store to grab a few more 34s, at $59 they are worth it! I also returned my Vaporfly 4% (weird arch situation and narrowness) last week and my Turbos (did not like the cushioning, too soft for me)...wasn't feeling either shoe, but obviously for some they are amazing.
34s were longer, if I recall correctly. They were the plushest of the pegs I've run in.
I ran 2000(yes three 0s) miles in this shoe (exact same colorway) and they still look like the ones in this video.
Yup. Quality show. They look fairly new still, only the sole gives away the age.
Did you have to move up 1/2 a size or no because of the flynit?
I'm a more modest 190 miles in - I usually have 3 different brands/models on the go at any one time - averaging about 5:10/km and seem to have a lot less wear towards the heal but roughly the same in the outer mid-foot. But then I'm 80kg :) I do have the impression that, at this stage, there is less cushioning vs new...
i'd agree with that. and i wonder if that's why i like it more now than i did earlier, but that doesn't make a lot of sense.
I may have done more in mine but mione are pretty beat now, but I must say still have plenty of life left in them, but ultimately in much better shape by comparison to adidas Ultraboost which are much expensive and wear really quick
they hold up remarkably well
Watching you encourages me to run more even by just watching you review shoes.. Thanks coming from Singapore...
thanks so much for watching! happy running!
Ha - I have found exactly the same. Initially thought they were too stiff / heavy and relegated them to a casual shoe after just 150 miles. Then bad weather made me drag them out and they seem super springy now. Wondering if casual wear for a bit loosens the foam somehow.
I have a love hate relationship with React. It’s a pendulum.
Hey. Thanks for the video. Do you think you could throw them in the washer when you are done with them? I wonder how they wash up.
stay tuned. i've got something planned for them for a video i've already made but will be releasing in the next day or so. and then i'll be throwing them in the wash over the weekend, so there will be another video next week that specifically address the washing machine.
would you guys recommand this pair for flat feet ? I got collapsed arches and I'm searching for good running shoes but the designs for us are awful !
Been in Chicago for few days now and weather has been great.
Brisk but beautiful right now.
They feel great for slower pace for sure and I'm a very slow runner (talking about 11:40 min/mile for any easy runs). Still not able to do faster workouts in them.
i love them for slower paces
The react holds up well and performs great into higher mileage in my opinion even tho it is completely exposed.
It has been surprising me
This VS nova blast for easyday/long runs?
Great video!
thanks for watching!
In india they are almost half the price of ultraboost so im gonna buy a pair
For running, that's what I'd pick
I have the Odyssey reacts and I am at 400+ and am just starting to feel the need for a new shoe
Incredible! How much do you get from other running shoes?
If your slow pace is around 5:00 (in km), then it is blazingly fast enough for me 🙃
i mention my paces for the sake of transparency so people can know what i'm doing. but when i mention speed in shoe reviews, i generally feel like things that are good for "fast days" or good for "slow days" comes down to relative effort.
1:15 mine are bright orange and I really like em 😂
3:40 true
I really wanted to love these shoes, but my arch insoles I use just made the foot sit so high I was getting massive heel slip. It always seems the fly knit uppers have such shallow heel cups.
Were the arches too low in these for you with the standard insole?
Yeah, I use The Super Feet Orange insole. I have pretty high arches. The insole has been a game charger for me across my rotation of shoes, but seems to be too much of interior stack height with that fly knit.
Hi Kofuzi, I will run half marathon this Sunday and weather forecast might be rainy, I only use epic react on dry conditions, usually 10km run, how will this hold running at rain on race day?
I've run in rain, through water, and in wet pavement. All fine.
Is there something else you're considering?
kofuzi , I have Kinvara 9, sonic hovr , NB zante 4, my Pegasus is retired haven’t bought new pair...
thanks for review
Thank you for watching!
so, react is not for marathon distance? I've bought odyssey react for my upcoming marathon btw.
For some people it is.
Still like my original Reacts.. I especially enjoyed the "lace less" aspect.
They fit so well I have no issues. Slip on and go.
My favorite casual shoe right now
There's no flywire in the epic react, so isn't there any loss of stability or foot escape??
I don't really feel any problems, although I'm not usually a person that has a hard time with feeling secure or locked down.
A little obsessed with trainer mileage 🤣 I think you might just like getting new runners dude! Personally I've no idea how many miles my trainers have on them! Enjoy your vids though man 👍
I do like getting new shoes
What size do you wear on epic reacts master?
9, my young padawan.
@@kofuzi your height master? Thanks
One question, will I start my long workouts for my first marathon, would the NIKE React be the perfect match? or would indicate another model.
Epic React is a good choice, but depending on the type of long workout, the Zoom Fly Flyknit and/or the Vonero 14 could also be good choices
@@kofuzi a year later. How long did you run your Zoom Fly for? I had the Zoom Fly for races only because they went bad so quickly. Hoping the Reacts will last longer.
This is my 3rd time watching this vid and there’s still a confused likability w/Reacts I have after 200mi+ under my feet.
How much do weigh Kofuzi? Coz the shoe held up pretty well.. using my Odyssey react flyknit 2 Im about 50 miles with no significant wear as of now.. I weigh about 152 pounds on a size 9.
you want to know their weight as purchased? or after wear?
@@kofuzi I mean your body actual body mass..
Im planning to have another pair possibly zoom fly flyknit coz its on sale, hope its more durable than the epic react.
Right now I’m 139
Is this pair of Epic React Flynit are as bouncy and springy as they claimed ?
the advertising hype was a bit hyperbolic (akin to Under Armour saying the Hovr Infinite will let you run "millions of miles"), so i'd say no. but it's quite enjoyable for running.
@@kofuzi Thank you !
Recently got a Legend React 2 and it feels amazing! Already done ~100km
Nice
I've already got some 4%, zoom fly fk and now looking for an easier day, daily runner. Ramping up distance, 10mile +. What would you choose?
Epic react. Vomero 14
@@kofuzi got ER FK2 on order but Nikes date are slow due to Covid. More miles on ZF until then. Thanks for replying
How about traction in wet compare to Pegasus 35?
I'd feel more comfortable in the 35 than the Epic React in terms of traction. But for what traction is has, it seems to hold up over time.
Are these classed as a support shoe ? Ie for flat feet?
Scott Baldock they do have a lower arch
Just bought a new pair of these in the sale!
Awesome! A great shoe
Great review!Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
Did you buy these true to size or half size up?
Tts
Think I might have to pick up a pair!
it's been surprising shoe.
Which is better among epic flyknit or Pegasus 36
Both are great and have overlapping use cases. It is going to be a matter of preference.
I run 15 miles a week, my preference is a durable and comfortable shoe
Wow that's no where close to the 500mi Nike advertised. You don't see the Reacts having even a little more life closer to 400mi?
You know, I hadn't heard of this 500 mile thing until very recently. I wish I could have seen it at the time it was originally aired. Because it just reminds me of the old Folders Crystals commercials.
Where's that hoodie from?
Uniqlo
Finally someone with the same colour as mine
I love this color
Ive put about 1000 miles on my ultraboosts and boost plus ground equals gross yellow scales
1000 miles is ludicrous
@@kofuzi 😂yeah I agree, I put about 500 in running during track and the other 500 just walking around
Nike Streak 6 or Nike Zoomfly Flyknit?
I've never run in the Zoom streak. But the answer is it depends on the distance (and I assume you mean for racing or race pace days).
I'd consider zoom streak for 5k and under.
Thanks
Never tried the Zoom Fly, but I have the Zoom Flyknit Streak, and they’re amazing for race day! They really push you forward to go faster. Planning on buying the Epic Reacts for long runs and training runs though.
have u tested vapormax?
I have not
dope video
thanks!
asics gt or nike epic react?
i don't have experience with the asics gt
Those are two totally different shoes, with GT being stability versus Epic Reacts being neutral - figure out what your running gait is like at a running store and they should be able to recommend one over the other
270 miles, I'd get at least a year out of this 😃
everyone runs at their own paces
Still prefer the Pegasus over these
me too
God morning to you sir
Morning!
270miles wtf?
Does anyone wear or recommend wearing socks with epic react flyknits?
i do always.
@@kofuzi thank you!!! Will do as well :) also, fantastic video!
I wish I never wasted money on the epic reacts. Apart the fact they kill my heels after half an hour of wearing, react has let me down. Its a gimmick. I fell for the hype like most people but others lie to themselves its great
i felt similarly to you after about 100 miles, and i'm on record as such in my first impressions video, my 100 miles video, in videos discussing the zoom fly sp and the zoom fly flyknit, and in hundreds of comments across youtube.
but this shoe is confusing. for me, it seems to be getting better with age somehow?
if you follow me on IG or strava, you can see what shoes I wear every day, even when I'm not running in a shoe for the purpose of a review. I've been reaching for these a lot lately.
my nigga frl
I'm first in India who buy this shoes
that's incredible!
@@kofuzi yeah
Flyknit not nit
Nit mate
You seem very listless in your review. So many don't know this and there. Don't know? Not sure???...?
well, I've gotten a lot more listful in the literal 3 years since this video was published. I invite you to try a more recent review and let me know if that's true. or perhaps I am hopelessly listless