Grinning God Miniatures - CHEAP yet.. RISKY minis? Patreon Review!
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2022
- Welcome back to another Patreon Review, this time around we're summoning beasts from dissonance, with miniatures from Grinning God.
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Great video! Really appreciate the feedback and hearing about what's going well and what we can improve. Any tips on MMF file organization are appreciated.
Look forward to seeing more content!
Hey the Grinning God himself! Glad to hear you found this constructive, I hope it wasn't too painful and I look forward to seeing how your Patreon develops - and I will happily pin a comment to the top of this video in the future if things improve so keep me posted. As for MMF I'm not sure, it should retain folder hierarchies when uploading zip files right? Other monthly releases I've downloaded on there have had it. But basically just simple stuff, each model gets its own folder, and if you want to go even further you can then sort each models unsupported and supported files into their own respective subdirectories. Little touches like that just make the whole end user experience that much smoother.
@@OnceinaSixSide Much appreciated! Those are some great suggestions, will look at getting that cleaned up for a more friendly user experience!
I'm just planning to get my first 3D printer, and your content is right up my alley! Hope these errors are fixed by now because I'm looking forward to these models! 😄
@@grinninggod1620 I just heard of your tribes though this video and would love to know if you have improved and if so in what ways?
@@PheonixKnght definitely have worked on the supports and ensuring no islands go unsupported! Our Patreon in much more active. Hope to see you on there!
our boy hasn't played Eldenring
Hey there @Once in a Six Side, I run an Etsy shop with a commercial license to sell from several creators and I absolutely love your content. I have resigned to putting the time in to do supports myself for all my vendors due to the amount of printing I do for each individual figure and the pains you bring awareness to really resonate with me. Excellent content. 👑
Thank you! It can be painful indeed, even more so when you pay for a merchants license! It's such a shame too that so many design studios don't put in the effort up front with the printability of their files. It starts to feel like it's more about quantity than quality with a lot of them.
Thanks, learned a lot. Honestly this is part of why i dont offer pre-supported right now as im afraid of accidentally skipping an island where people presume its been perfectly supported. But i will watch your other vids and maybe change my mind(and skills)
Hey no worries at all, thanks for dropping by! I really loved your rendition of Buttermilk Bob, it's so good lol.
I think if you can offer presupported files its a huge value-add since I think most people don't trust themselves to do it either, or are (rightly) worried about using auto supports. I recommend using UV tools just to double check you've got all the islands, and then if your test prints are good you can be confident distributing presupported files.
I've learnt so much from just 2-3 videos of yours about supporting and printing - can't believe I never knew half of what you mention
UVTools alone is INCREDIBLE
Thank you for teaching and educating people
I haven't seen the other review yet, but I really enjoyed the style of this video. Keep it up dude!
Thanks! That's awesome to hear
This comment on resin on the FEP after a print breaking a printer happened to me.
I got my first printer back in December and printed some files I had found not knowing anything about 3D printing and had a big lump stuck to my fep. Not spotting it I put on the next print and it tore a hole in my fep and poured resin directly into my LCD.
Brand new 3D printer and I had to replace an FEP and LCD to run maybe my 5th print.
It killed my motivation to print for months.. but here I am 6 months later, much more knowledgeable.
I love your content, and am going through the back catalogue to learn even more!
Between you and Tableflip Foundry I've become fairly confident supporting my own prints! Thank you!
Grinning God's subscriptions have changed drastically in a year, wow. I thiiiink they took a bit of a hiatus, it looks like now they just release one model a month (but I'm not even sure if they released last month's mini on all platforms), and I'm finding it hard to tell if the list of what you get on their MMF Tribe is accurate. I ended up with a free trial for the month, boy howdy it'll renew at almost $10USD for just the one mini a month. Their Tribe benefits list says you also get access to the previous month's mini, but IDK if they're actually doing that, or if the previous month's even made it onto MMF Tribes. It'll be interesting for sure to see if the improved the supports on the old Welcome Pack model, and if the models they're putting out now have better supports.
Patreon/Tribes reviews are super helpful, whether it's a video from you or people gathering their reviews on a forum somewhere. I picked up a subscription to a different company last month who I'd discovered made a habit of picturing base sets in the image of the full collection that weren't actually included with the purchase. No disclaimer anywhere! They seemed to have changed that on most of their packs after I pointed it out. (Plus the pre-supports on their MMF kickstarter collecting some old releases were garbage, and that month's pre-supports looked better for the printer but a nightmare for model scaring.) Definitely super valuable for folks to share their experiences!
I would LOVE for you to go back and do an update on these patreons 6 months later
That's something to consider for sure!
Very cool video , I enjoy learning about 3d printing and seeing how you are dissecting the files !
Excellent review and analysis! This content is helpful when looking into new patreons.
Thank you very much!
I'm learning so much from this channel that's making me more comfortable with this hobby
It's so interesting how the resin printing market has evolved. You have the super creative types sculpting all the models. Then they farm it out to the consciousness types that carefully scan through layer by layer supporting everything, then checking, redoing, rechecking, testing and repeat. At least that's the concept.
Love the videos mate. I'm just getting into some patreons for 3d printing and I didn't really consider that the pre supported files would be poor. I can't quite fathom how to support the files myself so I have to trust the patreon creator to support the file properly for me. I'll be more careful about looking at the files and checking my vat after a print considering this.
Fantastic Video! Love your expertise on the subject and wouldn't mind another one with the same idea!
Excellent video! Thank you for making it. I just purchased an Elegoo Saturn 2, it’s my first 3D printer. So I’m a super noob to all of this and this video was extremely helpful.
im considering going into the business and im glad you've brought up a few things here i hadnt thought about before; cheers!
Glad to hear it, good luck!
Love the video men, every word you say its true, I hope you can keep up with these reviews
Cheers, I'll do my best!
must say, i laughed a lot after you revealed the leg, seeing it on the finished mini is priceless
Rolls a Nat 20 like its nothing. Nicely done indeed.
Just found your channel. I love the idea of having technical reviews of these creators. So far I've tried to avoid using presupported models unless I know that the presupport work was done by someone good, and also so I can get practice in supporting models.
I'm fairly sure that I've ruined my fep with the few pre-supported files that I have printed. Thankfully I've taken on the habit of running a tank clean after every print that might have had those little bits that might stay on the fep.
I would love to see like a 1 year follow up to this one to see if they have taken your advice and improved.
Real time review was nice =)
new to channel please do more of these !
Thanks for the vid. I must watch your supporting vid. One can never watch enough of those lol.
For organising the files you could have opened the included lychee project files and used the list of file name to find and organise them into folders. Not that you should need to.
Also if the files were supported in lychee, the layer height seleted in resin setting focuses the island scan function, as would the xy resolution defined by the printer profile. For example if the artist has layers set to 50um and proceeded to support the model then there will be island when you check the files if you like to print at 30um or 20um. No need to use UV tools if you set a low layer height, 20 to 25um and do your support process from there.
Not all the islands you talked about were due to this but it looked like a few were. Others were just missed or ignored. Pre supporting is tedious and time consuming and at some point the "good enough" mentality kicks in. Especially if you see yourself as an artist first and are supporting your models with value added convenience type mind set.
Missing islands on very small obsured details or qwerky geometry really isn't an issue as long as there are layers above it to "mop it up". A few layers isn't an issue as long as the pixels of the unsupported geometry doesn't expand to much on proceeding layers.
You being a professional pre supporter, I understand you need to catch all the islands and place them in a way that will preserve the digital geometry as much as possible to maintain a professional standard. But there not Pokemon, you haven't got to catch them all.
Thanks again for the vid.
Love this video. Been trying to figure out if getting some Patreon models would be a good idea. Thanks for sharing
Just had to say I REALLY love your videos and how you keep pushing the fact that these creators need to provide better product. Like giving us a sculpt and just expecting us to figure out the rest wont last long when 3d printing becomes more plug and play people (consumers) will not want to troubleshoot the file and wont need to troublehshoot the hardware so will just get a new subscription.
I appreciate that!
Oh man after watching this I have SO much support work to do on all my downloads... Also a YT backlog on presupports...
I tend to run my finger along my vat after each print as I'm wearing gloves anyways. It has allowed me to find out when I have pieces of resin on the FEP and also serves as a me mixing the resin before starting another print.
As a small time 3d designer, I agonise over fixing errors like this in my products and it's really galling to see the rubbish some designers put out and rake in a fortune.
Very good commentary, nice :)
Thank you :)
Have a look at stationforge
You can be sure I'll be covering Stationforge on this channel eventually :)
Great video. Would love if you could review Bestarium Miniature,Archvillan Games and Heroes Infinite. I love their minis but their STL are pricey.
Id love to see what you think of the 'big name' subscriptions like Archvillain games or Loot studios - Id assume they would be S tier because they are the face of resin subscriptions, so it would be interesting to see if they live up to their prestige
I'm keen to find out too!
archvillain games supports are chefs kiss, theyre super small to the point they dont leave marks on the prints almost at all, but not small enough that they break easily and cause failures. I copied the supoort settings in lychee from archvillain and have rarely had issues supporting my own pieces.
Loot studios tends to oversupport their files, but again i rarely ever get a failure,
I was surprised when i saw that you supported the head upside-down! On my prints, the side facing the buildplate always has muddied detail, but I don't seem to see that on your print. Could this be a calibration issue on my part?
You need to look at bestiarum miniatures they are so good
Really good overview. Do you have any video how to tune the 3D printer for a pre supported files? At least for one patreon where the supporting should be the same? All my previous attempts are just failed prints. I try to play with the exposure time, try to add more supports, but it is not really working. Thank you!
Of course! Check out the Atlas video in the description, and also look up the Cones of Calibration video from Tableflip Foundry, that may be an even better method to ensure success.
@@OnceinaSixSide Thank you for the support, I'll check the cones, it looks a really interesting test.
try pipermakes next
ruclips.net/video/PZfKumW-jXU/видео.html
Enjoy!
Can You make review for EOB patreon? Also . Are releases on patreon time limited . Sorry if it is a dumb question im new to 3D printing (i don’t own a pritner but there is a shop in my country that prits files.
The best supports ive used personally are from loot studios
I'm definitely going to have to check them out sometime. Thanks for the suggestion and MEGA THANKS for the coffee!! :D
what are you using to get those previews of stl files in the file explorer?
Microsoft 3D Builder!
models having un supported islands bothers my quite a bit since lychee island search is very good.
The paint job came out great. I assume you used your airbrush at some point? Or was it just layering/drybrushing the reds on top a dark base coat by hand? Regardless, it would be a really fun piece to put on the table. If anyone points out that the leg is wonky, tell them it was wounded in a previous fight!
Also, mind if I ask what glue you were using? I still haven't settled on a brand I like yet, and have found a lot of superglues recommended for model assembly either dry instantly but are fragile, or take longer to cure than my shaky tweezer-holding hands can keep parts aligned. It's also neat that what you're using has an applicator.
Cheers! Yep I I used an airbrush initially to base coat black, zenithal highlight in white, then cover with transparent red, then it was basically all just dry brushing. I have all the footage for it, I just haven't had the chance to cut it together into a video yet.
As for the superglue its a brand a get from my local grocery store called Selley's and its definitely on the slower more frustrating side. I'm still on the hunt for a good superglue myself.
@@OnceinaSixSide If you ever get to the video, I'll be here to watch it, but take your time. I had all my printing plans pushed back repeatedly the last couple months, so I totally get it.
Thanks for the insights! And here's to us hopefully finding ourselves in a more sticky situation... regarding super glue.
@@64bitcrafts Thanks bud :)
i need undead skele boy Patreons
but if you pack so many support, why not just auto??
Why do you use TeraCopy? Never seen this program and outside of lossy file transfers (maybe sd cards?) I dont understand its purpose.
Good question! Basically it comes down to reliability. I can trust Teracopy to cope with large complex transfers that need to run overnight for example.
It just works and I'm used to it at this point.
To add to that I've been using the free version since Windows XP and have never had a need for the pro version. Would recommend it to anyone!
not sure MMF supports folder structures, might have something to do with watermarking
Any chance you ever go back after some time and see if they accepted your feedback and made these changes when you do this kind of review?
Would you consider reviewing the eons of battle patreon?
I would!
@@OnceinaSixSide hey man. just want you to know that your channel is solely responsible for me buying a 3d printer and hopefully, not breaking it. Thank you.
@@intobatts Well how about that :) Awesome man, I hope you enjoy resin 3D printing! If you're feeling generous I have a Discord server you can access through my member page where I will personally help you if you have any problems or questions about your new resin printer.
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Hey, how do you get the preview icons in folder?
I believe you get that after installing Microsofts 3D Builder software (which is free on their app store)
@@OnceinaSixSide thank you
bought mechwarrior files from gamebody. Same problem. Except in that case, they rip file from games, hacked it up and say it's ready to go. It's ridiculous. I ended up splitting & slicing many parts and added peg holes so they had a face that wasn't ruined by supports.
How the heck do I find 3D printing groups in my area?
Thanks for your question! Though I'm not sure I understand it fully. Do you mean finding people to print stuff off for you?
@@OnceinaSixSide that or just people that are also invested into 3D printing in general
You should play Elden Ring
oh dear god why is your infill density for your support material in cura so high, almost everything ive been printing for the last 6 months ive used like 5% support density and its all gone fine
Having a great time just watching you slowly go insane here about basic organization.
I mean like don't stop but maybe for your own sanity IF you can rank the Patreons by like most viewed? Or something similar so your not just always rolling up the absolutely MID ones like this.
Haha cheers, yeah its a small thing but it drives me nuts and I wish it were given more care by people.
I like the idea of rolling for them because it can put anyone on the spot, but you're right it does seem to stack the probability toward smaller unknown creators. Is that bad though? I dunno! I'll be paying attention to how the next few review videos perform and go from there.
@@OnceinaSixSide oh I figured you'd going to do you either way but comments are good for the algorithm.
Plus the counter argument is a 'larger' creator could weather any negativity than a mid to small one.
But it's going to play out in the wash either way if you keep working your way through what's available.
@@DanielVisOneCade I appreciate that :) Given I can't sort the Patreon search results, I could either create a spreadsheet of active Patreons with x amount of subs, or I could say limit myself to the first 3 pages with a D3 as Patreon by default seems to sort from largest to smallest- which I may do. I dunno yet, we'll see.
My feeling is if you're going to enter a public and competitive marketplace, you should be prepared for people to review what you have on offer - and that it may not be favorable. My hope is in cases like this that Grinning God improves in the areas I was critical of, which ultimately will benefit them as a creator as much as it does their customers. It would also be nice if other Patreons take heed too because unfortunately there are so many bad presupported files out there and I really want to see this change.
More reviews like this one please. Rather than a scripted sequence a real-time commentary and reaction on what someone finds is much more appreciated.
Where the wings attach, that mold line...yikes.
Dont want to seem like a nerd... but its not a Dragon, it's a Wyvern.
rolls a 20 but has zero reaction to it 😂