Got to love how elected officials ask citizens for money to fund their campaigns and then turn around and make ordinances not allowing citizens to ask people for money.
I'm fine with it coming out of the city's pocketbooks. These people are in these positions because of who the people vote for, it's their fault - take notice, or pay.
Coming back to this, I want to add that I think the tyrants should also pay; they did the crime, they do the time (or a payment, separate from the settlement with the city).
It's hilarious how arrogant these pigs behave up...until the moment somebody calls their bluff. Cops love letting their mouths write checks that the law can't cash.
A corrupt tyrant will want to hide their actions. A civic patriot will want to reveal corruption and hold everyone accountable. The 1st amendment, freedom of the press, exists for all people to observe actions of our government and report to everyone so that corruption and tyrants can be rooted out. If tyrants can hide their actions, they can hide their corruption. There is no excuse to prevent transparency and accountability.
I bet that cops ego took quite a hit to have to reverse himself and allow Jeff back onto the property. It could have all been avoided if the cops actually knew the constitution they are sworn to uphold.
Within U.S. of A-s Leo WORLD, They must verbally (NOT WRITTEN NOR SIGNED) orally with hand in the air, SWEAR TO UPHOLD the Constitution. but that legally lasts only until they lower their hands. Let SCOTUS mandate the first 6 amendments, verbally be recited "BY HEART- FROM MEMORY BY EACH LEO UPON CITIZEN DEMAND AND ENCOUNTER.
While I am not American, I am Australian but I enjoy RUclips videos and Jeff’s are amongst my favourites, but the thing I noticed about these and other auditor videos is the complete lack of knowledge that police have in regards to constitutional rights and the Constitution is the cornerstone of their democracy. One thing that is so prominent to me is the need to get I D off anyone they talk to, almost like a crackhead getting his daily fix.
@@garyholt4445 exactly. law enforcement training here in the US is short - weeks, not years. And most of the training is physical - wrestling techniques to gain control immediately. and then verbal 'do what I say' regardless. Training in the law itself is simplistic and mostly on-the-job. Individual rights protected by the Constitution are skipped over completely in favor of the officer being in control at all times for 'officer safety'.
This is not poor training, it is the training that law enforcement agencies want. For example, the will train officers to get the ID of everyone they interact with , even though it is a violation of the 4th amendment to compel someone to ID unless there is reasonable suspicion that the individual has committed a crime (in some states ) or has been lawfully arrested. The theory behind this policy is that the more IDs they get, the more likely they are to find people with open arrest warrants. You will see cops threaten to arrest people telling them they have to ID, but that is actually a federal crime, though no cops are ever charged for it, but there is federal statute that allows you to sue the cop and the PD if they force you to ID under threat of arrest under color of law that is an easy lawsuit to win and cops do not have qualified immunity for this (42 U.S.C. § 1983). The police don't really care if they get sued from time to time because the city almost always pays the settlement and it comes either from insurance or from the general fund, so nothing really happens to the cops and they believe that having the policy is tough on crime. That is what is happening with police training. It is the way it is because police leadership is tough on crime, even at the expense of breaking the criminal law, 18 U.S. Code § 242, to achieve their perverted goal. So the taxpayers pay for a system that breaks the law to serve them in the goal of finding the occasional bad guy.
I wonder about that. It should, without doubt. In this instance at least those two officers should know now that panhandling can't get you trespassed from city property, but I just wonder if they would eagerly violate the rights of someone the following week, someone not as knowledgeable as Jeff.
Excellent to see that their stupid intimidation tactics didn't work on Jeff, because Jeff is a man that knows the law, something they definitely don't.
So NOW! Jeff appeals to ALL OF us! NON LEOs, to become 1-A activists in educating the "DUMMIES" that WE, as Citizens Allow, by being truthful taxpayers.
Well...that was interesting...these two officers went from "if you do not leave, you will be arrested" to "you are welcome to sit/stand on the steps with your sign." What ignorant clowns.
The times on the BWC and dispatch logs don't match or make sense, especially the supervisor who literally arrives in 2 seconds according to the logs and officer 1 BWC shows him walking 10+ seconds before he arrives. This isn't trivial, these are legal records and it's inexcusable to have time discrepancy
@@Tshikonelo What lawsuit? A panhandler gets a ticket and gets moved on. A dumbass 1A slacktivist isn't moved on because he lacks the balls to actually panhandle and break that law...so no, no dispute there. What, you actually think he's going to spend money trying to file a lawsuit because he was trespassed for 5 min after lying to police? You obviously either don't know how much lawyers cost or you think he has a lot of cash to burn.
@@JamesAtkinson-ge3jt he wasn't told not to panhandle on public property, he was told his constitutional rights don't exist in public. That's a scary precedent that you have no ability to justify. Democracy doesn't get to vote to commit genocide, Democracy doesn't get to deprive others of their liberty. It doesn't matter if it's annoying.
@@journathan Okaaaay.....not sure where any of this comes from, but watching the video again, yep. He's being told not to panhandle on city property - not that he can't panhandle elsewhere, and NOBODY mentioned constitutional rights not existing in public. Like...not even HE said that. Now where do you get democracy (do you even know what that means?) committing genocide or depriving others of liberty from? The key isn't "don't do it", it's "don't do it right here". Out of all the civil rights violations that happen daily down there, you take up the cause of one FAKE (not even real) panhandler trying to do activism? Do better.
Love how you threw the law back in their faces !!! These two idiots don’t care what the law is only that they are obeyed !!! Thanks for what you do Jeff you are the best !!!
@@Dannyboy1550 City Hall is limited public property. Was the frauditor there to conduct business with City Hall? No. I'm all for signage and expression of thoughts and such. It's best to do it where its properly designated though.
They target the poor because they know they cant fight back. As soon as they realized Jeff could hold them accountable, they turned tail and ran. This is exactly what cowards and bullies do.
They also target the poor and homeless because they don’t see them as a money source as the other taxpayers. They search for ways to convict them of a felony so they are also non-voters
@@Tuning_Spork So who mislead the cops on their way to the call. The cops were already talking about a guy on the steps of city hall asking for money. Are you going to blame Jeff for that too? Jeff, doesn't have to answer any questions and he can choose to answer them in any way he wishes. He played into their preconceived ideas because they weren't there to listen or investigate. They were there to run him off.
yeah, it doesn't matter if he was asking for money or not. That's also protected under our 1st Amendment. So sick of citizens AND city officials not know ing the law!
Any Clearly Unconstitutional Ordinance allowed to be made should get the city Attorney's license revoked plus a $50,000 fine or 1 yr in Jail. Petition your Congress people for such a Statute to be made?
City attorney only advises, does not make ordinance. Board members are the ones that should be gone after, but good luck with that because they have qualified immunity as well.
Not just clowns, but CRIMINALS if they behave this way. “Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a CRIME for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. “ www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law
Nope, they are just keeping their town from turning into Portland or Seattle. Good for them. Especially letting him go when they discover he's just a slacktivist.
Only the finest people. Just imagine how they treat people who can't stand up for themselves. They prey on the weak and don't bat an eye when doing it.
What kind of idiots thinks a city ordinance can strike down a 1st amendment right. That is exactly the same thing as making a city ordinance against religion. You rock, Jeff. ❤️👍🇺🇲
Every city manager and Mayor in the country. I promise you that EVERY town/city in the united states of America has one or more unconstitutional "Ordinances" because the average citizen does NOT know their rights nor the constitution and just goes on about their day until it finally hits them in the face with a 200 dollar "Fine" for looking like a "Vagrant" in front of the city managers house.
After watch a lot of these videos and the results of them. I wonder if a lot of these ordinances are on the books so officers can argue they acted in good faith.
@@robertsparling There's lots of cases where law enforcement officials have had their qualified immunity stripped, and held personally liable for violating citizens' constitutional rights.
Why would they call the city attorney? He doesn't have him on speed dial. Its not there job. They dont get held responsible for a lawsuit. The taxpayers do.
Cops dont care and arrest lawyers for following the law simply because the cops disagree. We dont hire intelligent people to do these jobs we hire morons that follow orders without thinking.
I bet “big dummy,” does it again to someone else who is ignorant of the constitution. Greed, sloth, pride, and wrath, the man will retire with a gold watch.
Hero officer because they want conformists not moralists. A conformist will do what they are told regardless of what is right. A moralist does what's right regardless of what they are told.
Beyond the threat of arrest for a protected activity, what I find most disturbing is the lack of contrition on the part of either officer... that's a pretty good indicator that they don't take their oath seriously
There's not a single cop in the United States that takes their oath seriously. If they did, you'd see cops standing up to those who violate the constitution daily. Things like civil asset forfeiture wouldn't exist. Those who don't actively partake in it defend those who do rather than upholding their oath to the constitution. Every single cop has chosen the paycheck over the oath.
They do take their oath seriously. The freemasonic oath they make at their Fraternal Order of Police lodge, at least. They don't care about their oath to the constitution.
Sparks read the back of the sign as "Help me not hate" when it clearly says "Help not Hate." He is so biased against people he perceives to be homeless that he adds a word that suggests Jeff is asking for money. Therefore, justifying the abuse of his authority.
This was priceless. I can here the cops attorney saying “my God leave him alone.” I have watched multiple appeals court hearing on qualified immunity and you are brilliant letting the officers know they are messing up…
"That's something you would have to take up with your attorney." It's already been taken up with attorneys and judges, all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. It's decided. They're big dummies.
Make these claims and cant drop a case. Go read Watchtower. Further read that Federal and State, and County, and Muni, and anything governed by the government is restricted property.
They will just never accept that their authority is not unlimited. They truly believe "I said so" makes everything they say lawful. The more of these videos I see, the less I think this country is not headed for disaster.
@@letsgobrandon7567 It only costs a small filing fee with the clerks office to file a lawsuit... I would not hire a lawyer as that would cost thousands... what do you have to lose filing yourself?
He was trespassed because he lied about breaking an ordinance and further lied about continuing to do it. Then they figured out he wasn't panhandling and just being a slacktivist, so they lost interest in him. He's irrelevant.
The thing is both those badged clowns - especially the Sergeant - look more foolish after the encounter as it just showed how clueless and contemptuous they were. Great audit.
I love how they are so biased by the time they show up they can't even read accurately. The sign says "Help not Hate" there is no "me" there officer. This is a really interesting look into how people's senses are affected by their thoughts.
Speaking of time... the times on the BWC and dispatch logs don't match, especially the supervisor who literally arrives in 2 seconds according to the logs and officer 1 BWC shows him walking 10+ seconds before he arrives. This isn't trivial, these are legal records and it's inexcusable to have time discrepancy
There is no qualified immunity for violating clearly established constitutional rights. Carrying a sign, even with profanity on it, on a public sidewalk was ruled a constitutional right long ago. The cop doesn't know this because they were not trained on it, and there is no incentive for them to be trained on it (sometimes there is, but that is a different story and is the result of a DOJ assessment to see if it is systemic in a department). If they were to have arrested Jeff, Jeff would have sued and won, but the cops don't care. The city taxpayers pay for the insurance or the money from the general fund to pay the settlement (and this would be a slam dunk case). This case had nothing to do with qualified immunity because qualified immunity does not protect a cop against violating clearly established constitutional rights. Jeff said he would lose it, but in this case, he would never even have had it, It was already lost in previous Supreme Court Rulings.
It’s so sad that we’ve been watching these videos for years and they still don’t get it. If they spent half as much time learning the constitution, which is the very basis of their job, as they do shooting their guns, which most will never do in the line of duty, we would not have to pay our hard earned money to defend these tyrants in law suits.
That would be due to the training of follow orders and nothing else. No worries as they will be covered unless they do something too out of the ordinary. I tell people if you want to change it. You're gonna have to restructure the whole thing or replace it city by city and state by state.
The basis of their job is to collect revenue. To be sworn in you have to take the oath. It is just like basic training. Once you get deployed, you are told to forget everything you are taught.
I suspect the older cop has a decade or two serving in law enforcement, so the fact that he doesn't understand the First Amendment is scary. He will, I'm sure, continue to violate the civil rights of citizens, mostly fueled by his ego.
he understands his tatics quite well... he doesn't care about the rest because he doesn't have to as he is protected from his stupidity by the laws the government passed.
OMG did no cops get the memo about you. Hardly anyone knows their civil rights anymore. U R my Hero! Neither did I until 3 years ago. Now I have 3 books on the constitution. God bless, JR Boise
They never learn anything because they don't have to. Jeff said the cop would have lost his qualified immunity, but the fact is that there is no qualified immunity when it comes to clearly established constitutional rights. The thing though is that had the cop arrested him, Jeff would have sued both the cop and the city, and he would have won because the Supreme Court long ago ruled that holding a sign in a public forum, even with profanity on it, is protected under the 1st Amendment. The thing though is that the cop and the PD would not pay a penny out of their own pockets. In this case, my guess is that the city has an insurance policy to pay out in the event of city employee misconduct and the settlement would come form that and not the police officer's wallet or the PDs budget. In other words, the taxpayers are punished, not the wrongdoers. Since there was no lawsuit (and even if there was) there really is no incentive for the PD to get all of its officers in a room to do civil rights training, and they continue to do what they have always done. This particular cop may have learned something, but it is unlikely that the lesson would reach the entire force, and even if it did civil rights violations would continue because the only way to stop that is when the DOJ has to audit the city and prescribe civil right training. They can't force the city to do the training, but they can cause the city to lose federal funding, and it makes it easy to get criminal convictions for civil rights violations in the future, so the three things that fix it are the public getting fed up and getting civilian oversight, cities losing their insurance, or the DOJ dropping the hammer on them.
I love how you stand your ground in the most calm manner and protect our rights. I'd love to see you and Sean from Long Island audits get together and team up in an audit. It could be legendary. Thank you for what you do.
Usually the cops have ZERO repercussions for them breaking the law, ignorance of the law is never a defence unless you wear a badge or know the right people.
He is baiting them by prcaticing his rights ! If solicitating for funds is constitutional then the state of FL needs to be sued for not removing this law and adviseing all cities to do the same .
Jeff you should tell them you will sue under Color of Law Section 242 Title 18 US Code and they lose qualified immunity and their boats...lol😂 I see they folded!!
"Help not hate" message of compassion and love for everyone. "Help me not hate" 1:02 This is how the cop read it for the camera. A selfish message filled with guilt.
It is appalling public officials ask for money for their political careers and they do not due their jobs, don't show up in congress for debates. Ignore what what the people who voted for them, wants, needs and concerns
You know what the thing with this is.... if you and I went the Tarpon Springs City Hall with the same sign as Jeff and did exactly what he was doing, we'd get trespassed and even arrested by those same cops.... Keep doing what you're doing, Jeff.
I love how you always make these the gold standard videos of auditing you don't curse at them you just call them dummies to their head not behind their back when they're being dummies keep up the amazing work
Jeff, I have watched many of your videos. You, Long Island Audit & a couple others do more for us than any others. Appreciate you & thank you for standing up, fighting for our freedoms! God bless & praying for you…
This went from if you don’t leave we are doing to arrest you! To sit on a bench and stay as long as you won’t. Listening to the interaction over the radio and threatening trespass and trying to violate a man’s rights was sicking. I can imagine how they treat the public daily. If your doing your job and upholding the laws how in the world would you get a rise. Even Jeff ask for you to contact the city attorney make those calls but Jeff wants to cause a issue.
Awesomeness!!! Nothing brings me more joy “ in this day and age “ when veterans uphold their oath and big dummie gets schooled by their true boss (Jeff) on citizens’ rights .
Jeff, Question: How long will it take the cops of this nation to learn about the 1st Amendment? Answer: Six minutes and 20 seconds. Thank you for what you do!
The cop who said take it up with your attorney is a spineless coward. It's his job as someone who took that oath to tell his command staff that he won't enforce local ordinances that attempt to supercede the Constitution because that's an attack on the Constitution you swore to defend. If he's fired he has a wrongful termination lawsuit and he'll never have to work again. Cops lack the intestinal fortitude and gumption to tell command staff and city government to go kick rocks. That's textbook tyranny.
Got to love how elected officials ask citizens for money to fund their campaigns and then turn around and make ordinances not allowing citizens to ask people for money.
Or when they try to charge someone holding a sign with distracting drivers or whatever the charge is. every corner has 20 politicians campaign signs…
You know I've never thought of that. Your 100% correct. These people don't serve us .
Only one kind of beggar in politics.
@@tghinson exactly. They only serve themselves with our tax money.
Yep.
EVERY lawsuit that gets settled needs to come out of the tyrant’s pension fund; NOT the city’s pocketbook.
I'm fine with it coming out of the city's pocketbooks. These people are in these positions because of who the people vote for, it's their fault - take notice, or pay.
The city initiated the incident, the city should own up to their error and pay the extremely cheap fine.
Coming back to this, I want to add that I think the tyrants should also pay; they did the crime, they do the time (or a payment, separate from the settlement with the city).
will never happen until police unions are abolished, they exist only to protect dirty cops !
The cops run off people with their bluffs and intimidation until a knowledgeable person stands their ground and calls them on their BS.
You need a law degree to walk the streets of America safely, because the cops don't know the law and don't care.
It's hilarious how arrogant these pigs behave up...until the moment somebody calls their bluff. Cops love letting their mouths write checks that the law can't cash.
@@bodysuitguy
On the street: "I am the law"
In court": "I can't be expected to know all the laws, I'm not a lawyer"
@@mrsatire9475by then their QI is history and liability attached
A corrupt tyrant will want to hide their actions. A civic patriot will want to reveal corruption and hold everyone accountable.
The 1st amendment, freedom of the press, exists for all people to observe actions of our government and report to everyone so that corruption and tyrants can be rooted out. If tyrants can hide their actions, they can hide their corruption. There is no excuse to prevent transparency and accountability.
Amazing how hard Jeff has to work to stop these idiots from violating his Rights!
He literally begs them not to go down this road. But their arrogance and what they have done to so many others and got away with it, has blinded them.
Cop: "it's not our job to call someone who knows the law better than we think we do"
They expect us to take criminal rights violations and thank them for it with a smile.
The threat of individual, personal lawsuits after threatening their loss of Qualified Immunity got Sarge on the horn with a quickness, didn't it?.
I hope these clowns watch this.
Especially the "Big Dummy" Sargent. We don't know the number to the city attorney, but you can make an appointment.
@@rcpilot179I don't have it on speed dial, umm...you have a computer in your pocket that can actually call by you just telling it to.
@1stamendmentmedia464 yep. No matter how stupid these clowns appear, they are a genius when it comes to Gaslighting.
The older I get the more I realize that city officials and cops ABSOLUTELY HATE TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
The older I get the more I realize that dumbasses hate being told not to annoy people.
I bet that cops ego took quite a hit to have to reverse himself and allow Jeff back onto the property. It could have all been avoided if the cops actually knew the constitution they are sworn to uphold.
Within U.S. of A-s Leo WORLD, They must verbally (NOT WRITTEN NOR SIGNED) orally with hand in the air, SWEAR TO UPHOLD the Constitution. but that legally lasts only until they lower their hands. Let SCOTUS mandate the first 6 amendments, verbally be recited "BY HEART- FROM MEMORY BY EACH LEO UPON CITIZEN DEMAND AND ENCOUNTER.
Or even thier solicitation ordinance which likely only speaks to aggressive panhandling
OR actually know the law that they are trying to enforce.
Yeah he probably went straight home and beat his wife.
The older cop is just simply a butthole. Nothing more nothing less.
They don't care about being sued, because they don't pay. The taxpayers do.
Aaaaand the education of poorly trained law enforcement officers continues, one dummy at a time.
😂😂😂
While I am not American, I am Australian but I enjoy RUclips videos and Jeff’s are amongst my favourites, but the thing I noticed about these and other auditor videos is the complete lack of knowledge that police have in regards to constitutional rights and the Constitution is the cornerstone of their democracy. One thing that is so prominent to me is the need to get I D off anyone they talk to, almost like a crackhead getting his daily fix.
@@garyholt4445 exactly. law enforcement training here in the US is short - weeks, not years. And most of the training is physical - wrestling techniques to gain control immediately. and then verbal 'do what I say' regardless. Training in the law itself is simplistic and mostly on-the-job. Individual rights protected by the Constitution are skipped over completely in favor of the officer being in control at all times for 'officer safety'.
This is not poor training, it is the training that law enforcement agencies want. For example, the will train officers to get the ID of everyone they interact with , even though it is a violation of the 4th amendment to compel someone to ID unless there is reasonable suspicion that the individual has committed a crime (in some states ) or has been lawfully arrested. The theory behind this policy is that the more IDs they get, the more likely they are to find people with open arrest warrants. You will see cops threaten to arrest people telling them they have to ID, but that is actually a federal crime, though no cops are ever charged for it, but there is federal statute that allows you to sue the cop and the PD if they force you to ID under threat of arrest under color of law that is an easy lawsuit to win and cops do not have qualified immunity for this (42 U.S.C. § 1983). The police don't really care if they get sued from time to time because the city almost always pays the settlement and it comes either from insurance or from the general fund, so nothing really happens to the cops and they believe that having the policy is tough on crime. That is what is happening with police training. It is the way it is because police leadership is tough on crime, even at the expense of breaking the criminal law, 18 U.S. Code § 242, to achieve their perverted goal. So the taxpayers pay for a system that breaks the law to serve them in the goal of finding the occasional bad guy.
I wonder about that. It should, without doubt. In this instance at least those two officers should know now that panhandling can't get you trespassed from city property, but I just wonder if they would eagerly violate the rights of someone the following week, someone not as knowledgeable as Jeff.
How many other people, over the years, has this uneducated Cop arrested and trespassed because he doesn’t know his job? Disgraceful.
“BIG DUMMY” is just big now…. Best education he’s received in all his police training to date!! God job Jeff
I love when I hear Jeff channeling Fred Sanford.
@@amc7185 Well, he IS "from the '70s!"
No. Hes still a big dummy. You have to be completely ignorant to do what that cop did. He'll never actually learn.
Big dummy's have been told all of this before. So this time it worked?
That butt hurt coo went home
Took some shots of “ol gran dad “ and took it out on his poor wife..🤬 😂
Every time I watch Jeff say “Be quiet big dummy!” I crack up. He’s so spot on and quickly shows them how insanely stupid they are
Excellent to see that their stupid intimidation tactics didn't work on Jeff, because Jeff is a man that knows the law, something they definitely don't.
So NOW! Jeff appeals to ALL OF us! NON LEOs, to become 1-A activists in educating the "DUMMIES" that WE, as Citizens Allow, by being truthful taxpayers.
More bullies trying to make up their own rules. End qualified immunity.
How can you be "listening 110%" when you're literally talking over him? They can't help but lie, they just aren't very good at it.
Exactly my thought as I watched. Terrible listeners.
I thought the same thing.
No matter good or bad liars. They have QI and don’t care.
@@Sarge395 They think they do. Once Jeff explains what rights they are violating their QI goes out of the window. He's proved it over and over.
Exactly what 110% of cop's do believe what lies they tell are important.
Love it when Jeff gets frustrated and respectfully calls em. BIG DUMMY 😂
Well...that was interesting...these two officers went from "if you do not leave, you will be arrested" to "you are welcome to sit/stand on the steps with your sign." What ignorant clowns.
And sadly they'll go right on with their days learning nothing and will harass / arrest the next ACTUAL homeless person asking for alms on the street.
Because somebody told them who Jeff is..
@@holarndius They have chosen to make homelessness illegal
I don't know why any cop would choose to undermine their own authority by making false claims like this.
The times on the BWC and dispatch logs don't match or make sense, especially the supervisor who literally arrives in 2 seconds according to the logs and officer 1 BWC shows him walking 10+ seconds before he arrives. This isn't trivial, these are legal records and it's inexcusable to have time discrepancy
These clowns would have ruined the average Joe's life over that.
And they will do it again.
If you think being told to not panhandle on city property will ruin the average Joe's life, you lead a very privileged life.
@JamesAtkinson-ge3jt lawsuit ruins everybody's life. Do you get it now?
@@Tshikonelo What lawsuit? A panhandler gets a ticket and gets moved on. A dumbass 1A slacktivist isn't moved on because he lacks the balls to actually panhandle and break that law...so no, no dispute there. What, you actually think he's going to spend money trying to file a lawsuit because he was trespassed for 5 min after lying to police? You obviously either don't know how much lawyers cost or you think he has a lot of cash to burn.
@@JamesAtkinson-ge3jt he wasn't told not to panhandle on public property, he was told his constitutional rights don't exist in public. That's a scary precedent that you have no ability to justify. Democracy doesn't get to vote to commit genocide, Democracy doesn't get to deprive others of their liberty. It doesn't matter if it's annoying.
@@journathan Okaaaay.....not sure where any of this comes from, but watching the video again, yep. He's being told not to panhandle on city property - not that he can't panhandle elsewhere, and NOBODY mentioned constitutional rights not existing in public. Like...not even HE said that. Now where do you get democracy (do you even know what that means?) committing genocide or depriving others of liberty from? The key isn't "don't do it", it's "don't do it right here". Out of all the civil rights violations that happen daily down there, you take up the cause of one FAKE (not even real) panhandler trying to do activism? Do better.
We need to get a court case that finds these clowns liable when they attempt to chill free speech so this crap stops.
You would think that the first amendment would be definitive enough...
You mean besides the dozens that already exist?
Until qualified immunity is struck down...
@@ianbattles7290
That takes money, time, and talent. Are you offering?
The Sgt got OWNED
Love how you threw the law back in their faces !!! These two idiots don’t care what the law is only that they are obeyed !!! Thanks for what you do Jeff you are the best !!!
"It's not my job" when he's talking about the constitutionality of something. He literally swore an oath to the constitution...
They obviously don't give a shit about their oath, *otherwise they wouldn't be behaving like this.*
it's not his job is 100% correct. The person's job to know the nuances of the laws is the DA and prosecutors.
@@derekelliott6098 I hope an officer "doesn't know his job" and throws you in jail for something that isn't a crime.
@@Dannyboy1550 City Hall is limited public property. Was the frauditor there to conduct business with City Hall? No.
I'm all for signage and expression of thoughts and such. It's best to do it where its properly designated though.
Tyrant cop's don't Swear and oath to the constitution only to the Blue line.
They target the poor because they know they cant fight back. As soon as they realized Jeff could hold them accountable, they turned tail and ran.
This is exactly what cowards and bullies do.
They also target the poor and homeless because they don’t see them as a money source as the other taxpayers. They search for ways to convict them of a felony so they are also non-voters
They never ask what he is soliciting for, they always assume money. He is actually soliciting for the Constitution. 👍
The cop asked, "Are you asking for money?". Jeff replied, "I am soliciting, yes." Jeff deliberately misled them.
@@Tuning_Spork It was a little sneaky, yes, and they fell for it.
@@Tuning_Spork
Like it’s hard to mislead cops? Hell, the barber school flunkies mislead themselves all the time.
@@Tuning_Spork So who mislead the cops on their way to the call. The cops were already talking about a guy on the steps of city hall asking for money.
Are you going to blame Jeff for that too?
Jeff, doesn't have to answer any questions and he can choose to answer them in any way he wishes. He played into their preconceived ideas because they weren't there to listen or investigate. They were there to run him off.
yeah, it doesn't matter if he was asking for money or not. That's also protected under our 1st Amendment. So sick of citizens AND city officials not know ing the law!
Any Clearly Unconstitutional Ordinance allowed to be made should get the city Attorney's license revoked plus a $50,000 fine or 1 yr in Jail. Petition your Congress people for such a Statute to be made?
City attorney only advises, does not make ordinance. Board members are the ones that should be gone after, but good luck with that because they have qualified immunity as well.
They are advocating for your rights, while actively violating said rights. What a bunch of clowns.
Even worse - they are violating a veteran's rights!!! They are attempting to deprive Jeff of the rights that he himself sacrificed for!!!
Not just clowns, but CRIMINALS if they behave this way.
“Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a CRIME for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under "color of law" include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official's lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties.
Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. “
www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law
@@ianbattles7290 Did he even serve?
Nope, they are just keeping their town from turning into Portland or Seattle. Good for them. Especially letting him go when they discover he's just a slacktivist.
@@JamesAtkinson-ge3jtYes. He has mentioned it numerous times in discussions with other veterans in his videos.
Once they said you will be Trespassed, that starts the Civil lawsuit.
Only the finest people. Just imagine how they treat people who can't stand up for themselves. They prey on the weak and don't bat an eye when doing it.
They laugh like hyenas as they do if. Sick fookers
Truer words are never spoken.
Because they are cowards
And laugh about it afterwards.
Look how simple that was. Why can't they make that phone call before they violate your rights? Ego.Thanks, Jeff!
What kind of idiots thinks a city ordinance can strike down a 1st amendment right. That is exactly the same thing as making a city ordinance against religion. You rock, Jeff. ❤️👍🇺🇲
About 99% of all cops believe this.
Every city manager and Mayor in the country. I promise you that EVERY town/city in the united states of America has one or more unconstitutional "Ordinances" because the average citizen does NOT know their rights nor the constitution and just goes on about their day until it finally hits them in the face with a 200 dollar "Fine" for looking like a "Vagrant" in front of the city managers house.
After watch a lot of these videos and the results of them. I wonder if a lot of these ordinances are on the books so officers can argue they acted in good faith.
@@davejohn3600 Move to the head of the class. The officers can arrest them without incurring personal liability.
@@robertsparling There's lots of cases where law enforcement officials have had their qualified immunity stripped, and held personally liable for violating citizens' constitutional rights.
Why would they call the city attorney? He doesn't have him on speed dial. Its not there job. They dont get held responsible for a lawsuit. The taxpayers do.
A person needs a law degree to safely walk the streets of America.
Cops dont care and arrest lawyers for following the law simply because the cops disagree. We dont hire intelligent people to do these jobs we hire morons that follow orders without thinking.
Seems like it. In this day and age.
and a camera rolling 24/7...
@@paulreider8321 👍
But the ones enforcing the laws per the SCOTUS don’t even need to know it. Land of the Free
You, Big Dummy. Great job, Jeff, and thank you for protecting our rights.
I bet “big dummy,” does it again to someone else who is ignorant of the constitution. Greed, sloth, pride, and wrath, the man will retire with a gold watch.
Hero officer because they want conformists not moralists. A conformist will do what they are told regardless of what is right. A moralist does what's right regardless of what they are told.
Thanks, once again, Jeff, for educating the ignorant and protecting our rights.
Beyond the threat of arrest for a protected activity, what I find most disturbing is the lack of contrition on the part of either officer... that's a pretty good indicator that they don't take their oath seriously
They look especially bad compared to the cities where the cops actually do recognize/respect Jeff's rights.
There's not a single cop in the United States that takes their oath seriously. If they did, you'd see cops standing up to those who violate the constitution daily. Things like civil asset forfeiture wouldn't exist. Those who don't actively partake in it defend those who do rather than upholding their oath to the constitution. Every single cop has chosen the paycheck over the oath.
They do take their oath seriously. The freemasonic oath they make at their Fraternal Order of Police lodge, at least. They don't care about their oath to the constitution.
Well done from a 50s. Guy Vietnam Vet. God Bless.
Sparks read the back of the sign as "Help me not hate" when it clearly says "Help not Hate." He is so biased against people he perceives to be homeless that he adds a word that suggests Jeff is asking for money. Therefore, justifying the abuse of his authority.
Thank you, Jeff. Seriously, thank you. Your follow-up raises the bar for all who would be heroes of the People . . . which you are.
God bless the homeless vets. This guy is amazing.
I agree - Jeff is amazing!
This was priceless. I can here the cops attorney saying “my God leave him alone.” I have watched multiple appeals court hearing on qualified immunity and you are brilliant letting the officers know they are messing up…
"That's something you would have to take up with your attorney."
It's already been taken up with attorneys and judges, all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. It's decided. They're big dummies.
Make these claims and cant drop a case.
Go read Watchtower. Further read that Federal and State, and County, and Muni, and anything governed by the government is restricted property.
@@derekelliott6098 restricted only to time,place and manner, beyond that publicly owned property is property literally owned by the people......
They will just never accept that their authority is not unlimited. They truly believe "I said so" makes everything they say lawful. The more of these videos I see, the less I think this country is not headed for disaster.
There's about 8million veterans that are willing to end this crap permanently.
Mr gray you are the GOAT sir. THANK YOU FOR KEEPING IT REAL ALL THESE YEARS.
Tarpon Springs police are a bunch of pricks
All it took was a tiny bit of education. Thank you Jeff for standing your ground and for standing for US. Much appreciation.
He was unlawfully trespassed for 5 minutes, I'd still file the lawsuit.
no you wouldnt. It will cost a few thousand dollars which you will never recoup.
@@letsgobrandon7567 It only costs a small filing fee with the clerks office to file a lawsuit... I would not hire a lawyer as that would cost thousands... what do you have to lose filing yourself?
Not what Jeff is really about,but he has to he will.
@@letsgobrandon7567 $480 if you don't get the fee waiver
He was trespassed because he lied about breaking an ordinance and further lied about continuing to do it. Then they figured out he wasn't panhandling and just being a slacktivist, so they lost interest in him. He's irrelevant.
The supervisor was upset that you Jeff, were right and he was wrong. You could tell in his voice. Keep up the great work. You are #1!
" I'm listening, " as he talks over him.
Typical cops.
You misspelled pigs
The thing is both those badged clowns - especially the Sergeant - look more foolish after the encounter as it just showed how clueless and contemptuous they were. Great audit.
I love how they are so biased by the time they show up they can't even read accurately. The sign says "Help not Hate" there is no "me" there officer.
This is a really interesting look into how people's senses are affected by their thoughts.
Speaking of time... the times on the BWC and dispatch logs don't match, especially the supervisor who literally arrives in 2 seconds according to the logs and officer 1 BWC shows him walking 10+ seconds before he arrives. This isn't trivial, these are legal records and it's inexcusable to have time discrepancy
THEY NEED TO BE FIRED FOR NOT KNOWING THE LAW AND THEY ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT
They are turning into feelings enforcement.
THE LOSS OF QUALIFIED IMMUNITY MADE THESE PRICKS THINK TWICE
I thought that lol😅
There is no qualified immunity for violating clearly established constitutional rights. Carrying a sign, even with profanity on it, on a public sidewalk was ruled a constitutional right long ago. The cop doesn't know this because they were not trained on it, and there is no incentive for them to be trained on it (sometimes there is, but that is a different story and is the result of a DOJ assessment to see if it is systemic in a department). If they were to have arrested Jeff, Jeff would have sued and won, but the cops don't care. The city taxpayers pay for the insurance or the money from the general fund to pay the settlement (and this would be a slam dunk case). This case had nothing to do with qualified immunity because qualified immunity does not protect a cop against violating clearly established constitutional rights. Jeff said he would lose it, but in this case, he would never even have had it, It was already lost in previous Supreme Court Rulings.
THEY WERE TOO STUPID TO KNOW THAT WHEN THEY MADE THE FIRST ARREST@@shenmisheshou7002
That was a glorious victory Jeff. HalleluYAH
Even a radio transmission admits he's on the steps of city hall. 😂🎥💪
Amazing! Well done, Jeff. Keep standing up for our rights. You are a true champion of the people. 👍
It’s so sad that we’ve been watching these videos for years and they still don’t get it. If they spent half as much time learning the constitution, which is the very basis of their job, as they do shooting their guns, which most will never do in the line of duty, we would not have to pay our hard earned money to defend these tyrants in law suits.
Because we don't hire intelligent people to do these jobs. We hire bullies and morons that only follow orders and don't have brains.
I agree with that 100 percent
That's a Quote from Eric Brandt
That would be due to the training of follow orders and nothing else. No worries as they will be covered unless they do something too out of the ordinary.
I tell people if you want to change it. You're gonna have to restructure the whole thing or replace it city by city and state by state.
The basis of their job is to collect revenue. To be sworn in you have to take the oath. It is just like basic training. Once you get deployed, you are told to forget everything you are taught.
Hats off to you jeff u are doing great spreading the word of free speech . Thanks
If ATTEMPTED murder and ATTEMPTED robbery are a crime, why isn't ATTEMPTED violation of civil rights under color of law ALSO a crime?
MAKE IT HAPPEN ! NOW!
It should be. Both officers should be fined $500.
Because the attempt IS the crime.
You could really hear all the bravado drain out of big dummy when he came back. 😂 Sounds like he got a real dressing down from his superiors 🤣
I suspect the older cop has a decade or two serving in law enforcement, so the fact that he doesn't understand the First Amendment is scary. He will, I'm sure, continue to violate the civil rights of citizens, mostly fueled by his ego.
Yes, this changes nothing for him.
The only thing he learned is that there are a few people (besides the rich and powerful) that he should not violate. Everyone else is fair game.
he understands his tatics quite well... he doesn't care about the rest because he doesn't have to as he is protected from his stupidity by the laws the government passed.
His pig headed nature and history of abuse of the public is why he has the gang stripes.
OMG did no cops get the memo about you. Hardly anyone knows their civil rights anymore. U R my Hero! Neither did I until 3 years ago. Now I have 3 books on the constitution. God bless, JR Boise
“I’m absolutely listening to you 110%” …. WHILE TALKING OVER YOU!!!
Im really not convinced these LEO's learned anything from this encounter.
They never learn anything because they don't have to. Jeff said the cop would have lost his qualified immunity, but the fact is that there is no qualified immunity when it comes to clearly established constitutional rights. The thing though is that had the cop arrested him, Jeff would have sued both the cop and the city, and he would have won because the Supreme Court long ago ruled that holding a sign in a public forum, even with profanity on it, is protected under the 1st Amendment. The thing though is that the cop and the PD would not pay a penny out of their own pockets. In this case, my guess is that the city has an insurance policy to pay out in the event of city employee misconduct and the settlement would come form that and not the police officer's wallet or the PDs budget. In other words, the taxpayers are punished, not the wrongdoers. Since there was no lawsuit (and even if there was) there really is no incentive for the PD to get all of its officers in a room to do civil rights training, and they continue to do what they have always done. This particular cop may have learned something, but it is unlikely that the lesson would reach the entire force, and even if it did civil rights violations would continue because the only way to stop that is when the DOJ has to audit the city and prescribe civil right training. They can't force the city to do the training, but they can cause the city to lose federal funding, and it makes it easy to get criminal convictions for civil rights violations in the future, so the three things that fix it are the public getting fed up and getting civilian oversight, cities losing their insurance, or the DOJ dropping the hammer on them.
I love how you stand your ground in the most calm manner and protect our rights. I'd love to see you and Sean from Long Island audits get together and team up in an audit. It could be legendary. Thank you for what you do.
This is what America has become. Unbelievable!
Cops are so confident...then one 2 min phone call, they admit they were wrong. "Big Dummy" is the kind thing to call them.
Usually the cops have ZERO repercussions for them breaking the law, ignorance of the law is never a defence unless you wear a badge or know the right people.
Why is this allowed ???? oh The 1 A says so?
He is baiting them by prcaticing his rights ! If solicitating for funds is constitutional then the state of FL needs to be sued for not removing this law and adviseing all cities to do the same .
That sergeant….. what a piece of… work. He should be fired. He does not like his job.
Jeff you should tell them you will sue under Color of Law Section 242 Title 18 US Code and they lose qualified immunity and their boats...lol😂 I see they folded!!
"Officer, are you confident enough in your claims to wager your house/pension? If not, I would think carefully before your next move."
@@ianbattles7290 HOOOORAH! COPY AND PASTE.
An apology would have been nice, but ego is bigger than sorrow.
"Help not hate" message of compassion and love for everyone.
"Help me not hate" 1:02 This is how the cop read it for the camera. A selfish message filled with guilt.
And proof that Officer Sparks can't read
Can we just take the responsibility of protecting ourselves back into our own hands!?
It is appalling public officials ask for money for their political careers and they do not due their jobs, don't show up in congress for debates. Ignore what what the people who voted for them, wants, needs and concerns
Cop said "Im advocating for your rights as much as I advocate for my own" Sort of like who needs enemies when I have friends like him...smh
If I were a family member of these officers, I would be embarrassed.
"You big dummy." Fred G Sanford 1972 😅
The sincere apologies at the end were touching.
You know what the thing with this is.... if you and I went the Tarpon Springs City Hall with the same sign as Jeff and did exactly what he was doing, we'd get trespassed and even arrested by those same cops.... Keep doing what you're doing, Jeff.
I love how you always make these the gold standard videos of auditing you don't curse at them you just call them dummies to their head not behind their back when they're being dummies keep up the amazing work
Let the lawsuits commence. Go for every penny you can get, this BS needs to end.
Another one bites the dust! Well done Jeff.
Everybody who watched this....REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAW, AND HEARD. Tyranny is also lurking in your town, city, county, state, and Washington D.C.
How many more cities need to lose lawsuits before the cops learn their lesson and stop doing this crap???
100% +1 yuh big dummies
Bravo Jeff. You are a hero and that officer and sergeant are ignorant of the basic law of the land. They need to be trained in the Constitution.
Love your process of holding public servants accountable.
Jeff, I have watched many of your videos. You, Long Island Audit & a couple others do more for us than any others. Appreciate you & thank you for standing up, fighting for our freedoms! God bless & praying for you…
Thanks for what you do Jeff.
Blatant lies from law enforcement.
They both lacked the basic strength of character to apologise, not even able to acknowledge they were wrong, weak men with power.
This went from if you don’t leave we are doing to arrest you! To sit on a bench and stay as long as you won’t. Listening to the interaction over the radio and threatening trespass and trying to violate a man’s rights was sicking. I can imagine how they treat the public daily. If your doing your job and upholding the laws how in the world would you get a rise. Even Jeff ask for you to contact the city attorney make those calls but Jeff wants to cause a issue.
The ignorance of law enforcement officers never seems to cease.
Those cops found out you did know what you were talking about after all. Good job Jeff
Not at all. That is why this frauditor was "restricted": You can go on the steps ONLY and not impede people traffic.
JG just walked those fools out of a lawsuit 💯
When did it become the lawyers job to protect the constitution and not the cops?
Some ex cop's become lawyers and even judges.
they prefer a lawsuit for violation of multiple civil rights violation costing the citizens, over a phone call. ALL FOR VANITY AND RIDE
Hey Jeff keep up the good work
Awesomeness!!! Nothing brings me more joy “ in this day and age “ when veterans uphold their oath and big dummie gets schooled by their true boss (Jeff) on citizens’ rights .
Good thing the big dummy cop made a phone call..... They both almost lost their qualified immunity for this.
and that is why you are the GOAT Jeff!!!
Big Bully-Balls went straight for the trespass, then he changed to Tiny-Testes when he realised he’d effed up! 😂
Jeff, Question: How long will it take the cops of this nation to learn about the 1st Amendment? Answer: Six minutes and 20 seconds. Thank you for what you do!
Answer: Generations! for National Learning------maybe?
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The cop who said take it up with your attorney is a spineless coward. It's his job as someone who took that oath to tell his command staff that he won't enforce local ordinances that attempt to supercede the Constitution because that's an attack on the Constitution you swore to defend. If he's fired he has a wrongful termination lawsuit and he'll never have to work again. Cops lack the intestinal fortitude and gumption to tell command staff and city government to go kick rocks. That's textbook tyranny.