The Fractal Genius of THE SHINING | A Film That Captures the Expanding Patterns of Reality
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2024
- The Shining is one of the greatest horror films of all time: not just because it tells a great story, but because it exposes the depths of human life, addressing psychology and alcoholism alongside the mysteries of the supernatural, blurring the lines between family dynamics, class conflict, and metaphysical questions like the nature of time and being. The failure of rationalism fosters a crisis of morality. The nature of evil and innocence are seen in the light of assimilation and the loss of self vs. the individual who acts on his own responsibility. The way we act shapes the way we PERCEIVE the world itself. A man comes to delight in the very things which once horrified him; a family you might encounter in daily life will find themselves reliving history.
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CHAPTERS
00:00
3:51 Telling a Story by Seeing Into the Future
11:16 Father & Son Walk the Same Path
17:19 A Man Becomes a Kipling Poem
27:53 How Desire Changes a Man
38:01 Evil Masks Itself & Throws a Party
48:20 Salvation and Self-Sacrifice
52:36 Suffering Is the Key to Understanding Reality
57:52 The Nature of Evil: Imitation, Assimilation, Incoherence
1:12:54 Innocence: The Power of Becoming Like a Child
1:18:06 Fractal Patterns: The World Is a Story of Imitation
Whenever a friend comes up to me with their new theory about the shining, I "corrrrect" them.
Yeah, you do 🪓
And what about his wife, did she prevent you from doing your DUTY?
Gotta remember to trill those RR's.
That's absolutely brilliant. It has thrilled my day.
😂
This is a rare film which stays with you forever on a subconscious level.
Yes, and often the unconscious foreverness of this film surfaces into the conscious. . .
All play and no work makes flak a dull joy.
Or you might say, it stays with you forever and ever and ever. I guess we're all kind of trapped in the Overlook maze.
It truly does. Kubrick was a genius
It stays with you… forever and ever and ever.
I saw THE SHINING in 1980 at 16 years old, im now 60 still obsessed and stuck in the overlook hotel, forever and ever
Speaking of fractals, I just made essentially the same comment on here.
1980? I'm sorry to differ, sir.
You've always been here.
@@TiltedMarc ty Mr. Grady
And ever….and ever…and ever!
Me too ‼️
I saw it on opening weekend and had to wait three extra hours in line to see it that night.
The photo is an esoteric idea. The soul loop. Jack is a materialist. He hates an adorable son, a sweet wife and an honorable profession - teacher - because he's after hedonism and glory. His soul is trapped in the physical dimension, where he is doomed to be in for eternity unless he breaks free from the "values" his soul clings to in some lifetime. Why he was always the caretaker. Why he submitted to malevolent spirits of the hotel. Why he couldn't write. He had no substance.
Fantastic interpretation. You hit the nail on the head.
Wow.
I'll re-watch the movie.
That sounds like some gnostic garbage philosophy, that our lives, our bodies, our family, nature and reality itself, is all a PRISON, in which we are trapped, and we should "liberate" ourselves by breaking free of all rules and restrictions, smash everything to pieces, subvert everything. It's horrible and wrong.
Nicely said
The competition for the the best analysis of The Shining on RUclips yields some of the most impressive videos I've seen. This is my favorite so far.
Just began watching, but hard to believe anyone could beat Rob Agers analysis' of The Shining and Kubricks other films
@@aakkoin I'm on it! Thanks.
@@MrJeffrey938 You're welcome! "Collative Learning" is his channel/company, not "collective" but "collative"... Incredible stuff, makes Kubrick's films even deeper, they are full of subliminal and symbolic stuff, the man was a true genius.
@@aakkoinRob Ager is always the Shining Master.
Have you heard of media that is truth streamed?
Had to drop whatever video I was watching the second the notif popped up
My friends, they didn't care for The Shining at first. One of them tried to call it boring. But I... corrrected them. And when my wife tried to stop me from doing my duty, I... corrected her.
the real curse of the overlook hotel is the fact that once you make a video about it, nothing you ever do will ever come close in clicks
That and Star Trek. My Beyond Antares animation has hundreds of thousands of views. Nothing else I do, even self aware AI Actors, comes even close.
@@NextWorldVRbut the difference is both the those topics (the shining and Star Trek) have mass appeal across generations for views and so mass reach… the self aware AI is so far down the AI rabbit hole only creatives and builders can appreciate it … the public just want dopamine gold.
Side note I visited your channel off the back of this comment and was blown away with the in character self aware AI. Contrary to a stupid comment, it is indeed of great value!!! Definitely helpful for me as I had a question about how AI could be leveraged for vlogging channels with such characters. Anyway now subscribed ❤
It's rare that I'll sit through a video for an hour and a half, but this was extraordinary. I feel like I'm going to have to watch it again to fully absorb everything.
It was quite dense and conceptual.
I’m with you.
I have consumed the shining content here on youtube at an unhealthy level and yours is by far, one of the bests video essays I have come across. Now I need to go to your channel and binge watch other videos
All his Kubrick videos are amazing. Here for a second watch
Have you watched Collative Learning's videos? Those are my favorite.
@@feraiivieagreed. The amount of detail Kubrick put into his films fuels some of the best takes by EOTM.
So it’s not just me? 😂
@@alexandermendez4653his vids are enjoyable but have much more of a tinfoil hat vibe
I always found it interesting that Jack breaks the 4th wall, albeit very briefly, throughout the movie by looking directly at the camera. For example, during his interview in the hotel manager's office and when he leaves their room after fighting with Wendy. This is Kubrick, so there is zero chance that these looks went unnoticed - they were intentional.
I get chills everytime I watch the movie and hear Delbert say, "You've always been the caretaker. I should know, sir. I've always been here". The line is creepy and perplexing as you try to wrap your ahead around what you think is going on.
The fact that if you slow the movie down, he likely stares at the camera in every single scene is terrifying lol
Grady says it in the book too
I’m of the opinion Kubrick does not have a definitive explanation. He didn’t make a puzzle to solve.
But like David Lynch. You
Experience it and make your own conclusions and you’re probably right.
Everyone has their own interpretation, part of what I love about his movies.
his films are much more about feeling than thinking a lot of the time
Kubrick intentionally makes his films ambiguous. But I also believe he has his personal explanations, that he chooses not to reveal -like many of the other great artists in history. I’ve listened to several Kubrick interviews and he always dodges giving definitive answers about his films. But there’s this one rare interview of Kubrick I listened to that was aired on some obscure Japanese radio station and he actually gave clear, definitive answers. He probably thought that no western audiences would ever hear that interview. Lol
There was a lot of surprising information in that interview. Like when he mentions that he believes in ESP and as an example he talked about how he’ll just THINK about petting his cat and the cat will instantly get up and move. 😂
To (somewhat) answer your question of Jack's responsibility: he was vulnerable to the Overlook Hotel because of his bitterness and hatred, which are at the core his self-hatred. But at one time he was vulnerable to marrying, and having a child with, a woman he would later regard with contempt. Even before hurting Danny's arm he made a series of choices he regarded as "settling" for something "inferior" to his arrogant sense of superiority (fed by and feeding on his self-hatred). It's no surprise that he ultimately "settled for " a haunted, hate-filled hotel which emptied him, but he set out on this journey long before hurting Danny's arm by refusing to appreciate what he had and who he truly was.
Jack was an alcoholic, and even worse, a "dry drunk" white knuckling it. It opened him up to possession, just like in Real Life.
Man is consistently leagues beyond the standard of other film analysis channels.
EOTM, Rob Ager and Jay Dyer are my Go-to for in depth film analysis-they approach the subject in a different way but they're all great.
Rob Ager is great, but his Shining content has awful audio/terrible mic. The spit and popping drive nuts lol
@@GtheMVP He should remaster that series and clean up the audio issues. It certainly would be worth it.
There's so many ways of interpreting everything in this film. Even Danny's injury he gets in room 237. Maybe it was the crazy woman, maybe it was actually Jack, maybe Danny did it to himself whilst hypnotized by Tony, maybe it was something completely unknown.
Here we go! The Shining has always been a favorite of mine. Deeply unsettling in ways you struggle to put your finger on, yet you can't look away. Always use the line "quietly going insane together" when recommending to others. Looking forward to hearing your take!
Kubrik was stated as saying that this film is a story about a family that slowly goes insane up in the mountains. I think that this is true, but what Kubrik does not mention, but is completely plausible, is that this is a story that Jack writes. The Torrence family in the film and the Torrence family in Jack's book are paralleled throughout the film. Some of what we see is happening, and other shots are happening only in Jack's book. We are not informed when Kubrik bounces from one to the other. The discrepancies can easily be chalked up to Jack taking poetic license. The two girls that Ullman tells Jack about were ages 8 and 10. The girls in Jack's book are twins. Charles Grady becomes Delbert Grady. The 10-year-old crime in the film feels more like it's decades old in Jack's book. The typewriter changes colour, The hinges on the storeroom change from one side of the door to the other within the same scene. All kinds of examples.
Every time that I watch one of your videos, one word always pops into my mind - 'elegant.' Thank you for shinny the light.
Are the Twins really evil? They seem impish and creepy, but really, they warn Danny about the Overlook by showing the tragedy of the Grady girls and saying scary things.
I never got the impression that they were evil, I think they were just lonely and craved Danny's company.
@@edpoe1108 But the Twins showed Danny what happened to the Grady girls. Was the elevator blood a warning too? From whom?
You are a good writer... We are headed for hard times. Much of what we are familiar will disappear. Out of that will grow a new fiction. be a part of it.
Ill be back this weekend to watch this through. I hate that yt sucks at notifying me of this type of content so here is a comment to try to give it a little boost
Dare i say that the scene where Wendy accused Jack of beating the son is the best commentary on domestic violence and us not witnessing anything
Kubrick's "The Shining"
Cinema's glass onion.
I told you bout the Walrus and me man, you know that we're as close as could be man
Poor Steven King 😢
It's Steve King that gives us The Shine in many short stories and King gives us the Dark One 😮 the notorious Man in Black. 🤔
My theory for this movie is that jack is simply a look at danny's future as an adult, doomed to return to the very hotel his father almost murdered him in, and continuing the legacy by almost doing the same with his own family, an endless cycle of trauma and suffering, and a constant sense of deja vu he shall never figure out, until it is too late. Its all a big infinite loop, perhaps aided by the evil of the hotel , which could be seen as a symbol for america, and all the collective trauma it overlooks, causing them to resurface, eternally. Also explains what grady meant by jack having" always been the caretaker".
I think this also explains that final imagee of jack. Its not jack, persay, but that of his father, and then by the end of the movie, it is his, and then the next time you watch the movie, it is danny's, and then his son's ,and then his son's ,and then his, and his, and his, and his, forever, and ever.
And ever.
Not taking doctor sleep into consideration, that is. Im pretty sure kubrick didnt as well.
Ouch
@@nycgweed ?
I'd say you're right. That's what i gathered after I read Kubrick mention it had to be watched simultaneously forward and backwards.......
Sure there are people who've done that with the movie and it's visually striking. But I've never heard a good explanation.
At the beginning when Danny is freaking out and drooling
...overlayed is the footage from the end/peak where it's like Danny is seeing what's happening. Jack with the axe slowly walking.... which throughout the movie there are scenes where actors were filmed moving backwards. So when the film is reversed they are moving forward.
The ability to "shine" gives people that ability. Halloran halfway through realizes and also sees what's about to happen but he's too late.
I wouldn't say it's a sad ending because Danny does learn that he can change his fate. Which to me was the end of the movie where he walks backwards in his tracks
@@MatthewGill-nv4tb i suppose watching the movie in that way is the only way to break the endless cycle. Who knows, its not like we can ask kubrick directly.
And not like he would tell us anyways, cuz honestly that would just ruin the fun.
@littlegreenman609 I get it but Kubrick ACTUALLY DID say that was the only way to watch the movie. It was I believe in a playboy interview
Hey, love the shout-out to Rob ager. Good job, man!
Excellent work Emperor. This wisdom came at a crucial day in this father's life.
I remember when the movie came out. Almost everyone who read the book hated the movie.
Have to agree with you there.First time I read the novel,it scared hell out of me.Tried to watch the movie(twice)but only made it in about 20 minutes or so both times cos of the many,many changes.It was almost unrecognisable.I saw clips of random 'scary'scenes(that,of course,do not appear in the book)on tv movie review programs..Danny talking to his finger,elevator full of blood,creepy twins,"..Heeeeere's Jack!"...I'd kind of expect these things in a lower budget horror movie from a number of years of ago..or a satire.And let's not forget Jack Nicholson basically playing Jack Nicholson throughout the entire movie.Anyway..to each their own.If somebody else loved the movie..yeah okay.
I was one of those people. The book was the scariest thing I had ever read (ok, so I was 13 at the time.) It was sheer terror. And then this dull, bizarre facsimile of the book comes out. And I was a fan of Kubrick, too! But I thought he had ventured into an area that he had no clue about. Over the years, I have come to appreciate the movie more. The TV adaptation was awful; unfortunately, that made people think the book was bad, and Kubrick was right in reducing it to a few scenes from the book.
This is fascinating. I read the book when it first came out, watched the movie, and enjoyed them. Although both scared me, they were merely pieces of entertainment to me. Over the years, listening to various and gradually more complex reviews and theories about "The Shining", I have found it engaging and mind expanding. Your analysis is particularly interesting. I find the quotes from Bonhoeffer to be really on point. Good job.
Nice work! I think the reason that Jack wasn’t angry with the mysterious woman-turned-corpse was he knew this woman from the past. The hotel returned a part of his memories that had been repressed: his past as someone who already had traded his soul with the devil. An alcoholic who literally had lived in the colonialist time. He may actually have known the woman in that hotel, but it is his memory. So there she was, an ugly bloated corpse. Jack was so familiar with the bartender (he seems to have owed a lot of souls to him), the hotel manager told him he was actually an owner(if I remember correctly), and also that his photo is on the wall of the Overlook (and indeed overlooked by all the characters in the film)-- all pointing out that he is something supernatural.
Only in Kubrick's movie. In King's source material, there is a simple explanation. Everything is less ambiguous but still terrifying in the book.
In terms of intelligence.. we must acknowledge that Jack is on the descent to madness and in this looses his ability to rationalise, that is why Danny was able to do his thing in the maze.. while Jack was solely focused on his intent to kill Danny while Danny is in a fight for his life... it is very clever of Danny maybe he saw it on TV... an earlier reference to the conversation on the way to the overlook regarding cannibalism....
This analysis and the film itself is brilliance
Always a good day when EOTM drops a vid!
The film that never stops giving.
3:05 Who's that coming out from behind Jack as he tours the Gold Room for the first time?
Well, one thing we know for sure is that it isn't the caretaker. YOU are the caretaker-you've always been the caretaker. I should know, I've always been here...
Ah, analysis of the Shining. This will be a great watch.
Thank you for another brilliant video essay. Kubrick was a rare genius in his work, and it takes a deep mind to venture into the layers and symbolism he carefully put into place with each film he crafted. Nothing in a Kubrick film is there by chance, or without meaning…everything exists to drive the intention of the film on every level of the viewer’s experience.
I have seen other essays on the Shining, but none as sharply perceptive as yours, which I can say of your other works on his films. You have a deep understanding of the human psyche, and of the way Kubrick evoked such visceral feelings and responses from both his actors and his audience.
Unlike most other Directors, Kubrick didn’t make any forgettable films, he gave each of his works the full breadth of his understanding of human nature, and the conflicting forces that shape and define how a given character will respond to the situation in which they find themselves. Your own perspective as a translator shares much in common with his. Bravo.🖤🇨🇦
I'm always amazed that the moon landing was in 1969 [I watched it in the middle of the night when I was 11...Patrick Moore, jabbering on, but people talk more about this movie's conspiracy theories than they do about the actual event. What a crazy world
I've been waiting a while for this one so I was very glad to see it today. I appreciate you for giving Rob Ager some credit too. He also opened my mind to the depths of this film. Fascinating subject--what Kubrick was really intending by this bizarre film, that is. One of my favs. Really enjoyed your video as usual. Please keep making vids. I love what you do.
Another home run breakdown by EOTM. One of the best channels out there that does Kubrick right every time. Phenomenal episode.
Beautiful video as always. I absolutely love your reviews. Please keep making those. God bless
This is a very solid essay, its orginal on a subject that has been donw to death. Great work and great essay. Well done
What an excellent video! I followed it closely and digested ideas from it - I found it very inspiring, and I’m glad you’ve included Bonhoeffer!
Fascinating. You've helped me see this movie in a light even Collative Learning has been able to.
Excellent synthesis. This might be the best explanation of the themes I've seen. Thanks!
21:37 So Kipling was 100% spot on basically
As always, incredible! Your commentary is excellent and thought-provoking. You encouraged me to revisit Stanley Kubrick after I decided he wasn't worth watching in undergrad. Now, I have such a deep respect for his work, and it's all thanks to you!
Jack is okay with the woman being there since he thinks the hotel will give him gifts!!
I've read and listened HOURS long about the Shining both book and movie... but this new video still worth watching! Very interesting!
Masterpiece of a video!
What a treat! 🙂
Some great observations. I can see the connections to events happening even today. Thanks for sharing more wisdom from Bonhoeffer. He was trying to survive in a world full of unimaginable violence and surreal turns of events. Looking at chaos from the outside, many of us will say, "this is utter madness". How can anyone chose to embrace such a destructive mindset? And yet, mobs of people did just that. Only some chose to escape it. Some felt the need to fight against it. While so many other chose to assimulate it into how they lived their lives.
What is very sad is all it really took was a gun. A weapon, a message and a skilled orator to lead so many to act in ways so many of us would choose to fight against.
Seeing this patten play over and over again in certain people's lives ...how little effort we have put into life in teaching these simple truths. How easy it is for one to fall into this sort of madness, when we have not given them the tools and resources to be successful in life. Not monetarily successful but morally good.
Was Jack so resentful of his family? Or was it that his failure to reach his goals and be successful, overwhelmed him to the point that everything around him reminded him of his failures? Had he succeeded with his writing, would he have gone off of the deep end? As in the case of Germans whose desire for worldly successes, pretty things, grew into plans to take over and take away from those who had what they wanted? It was thievry on an epic scale.
It reminds me of people, who are taught if one does this or that, riches, nice things will come to them. That they are entitled to these things. That even finding success at getting them through evil acts is acceptable because they did what others would never do to get there. So they rationalize that their actions are what others have done, which is true for too many, to have what most of us have come to value much less than they do.
It is that they have turned off that part of their brain that would make them unhappy with the depravity and cruelty it requires to gain so much in order to feed their desires. They are unable to see any benefit in spreading the wealth because their happiness has been fueled by the collection of many expensive things. This need for satisfaction becomes their obsession.
Desperation. Ah, as mentioned, despair can lead us to better choices or to evil madness. Both, only require opportunity, a desire and a plan. Why it is worth our efforts to help as many people as we can to create an exsistence that meets our basic needs.
Crazy how the pendalum swings. In one extreme or towards the other one. That we still have so many people, who think that what they are doing is good, working too hard to disrupt what most of us desire most. Harmony. Security and the opportunity to make life enjoyable for us.
Forensics deals not in innocence, but guilt
One of the best interpretations of The Shining I have seen so far!
Yes. Totally agree. It’s brilliant.
I like the way you are looking at this film. I feel like could watch it again with a fresh perspective. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.
I don’t believe Wendy actually holds anything against Jack about Danny. It is just in Jack’s mind that she does. When she comes to the hasty conclusion it is Jack that must’ve hurt Danny it presses Jack’s button to unknowingly because she soon after runs to Jack telling him that it was someone else that hurt Danny even though it is very very unlikely. When she tells the Doctor about Jack hurting Danny she honestly says what she believes in that it was the alcohol not Jack which shows us the truth of Wendy’s position. When Jack tells Lloyd she never has let it down we see the truth of what only Jack believes. This is the rift between Wendy and Jack that isn’t really shared between them. This wedge only pushes Jack further. This is why Wendy doesn’t understand why Jack is so hostile toward her from interrupting his work, she never sees there is separation between them let alone an ever growing one. Wendy is a dunce. And when Jack tells her there’s no one else in the Hotel and it’s Danny own internal problem Wendy doesn’t fall back on that it must have been Jack that hurt him. This again shows Wendy’s genuineness in not holding anything against Jack. Jack however holds it against her that she holds things against him showing projection from his perspective that he thinks himself to be inept and treats Wendy this way because he can fool her that there aren’t anyone else in the hotel.
Not sure that Rudyard Kipling’s poem White Man’s Burden isn’t actually a critique on imperialism. The Shining certainly is about the never ending cycle of imperial bloodshed and is also a critique of it. You can’t call it a racist film because the N-word is used by Mr. Grady.
Jack’s contempt for Wendy is rooted in the fact that SHE was imperceptive enough to settle for him as a life partner. He knows he lacks the things he considers important in a man, and any woman that would accept him is therefore worthy only of contempt. Neither Jack nor Wendy shows the slightest sign of loving each other…he settled for a passive woman who would have him, and she settled for the only man she thought would ever ask for her. Danny is the only thing that holds them together.🖤🇨🇦
What a beautiful analysis, thank you for sharing this. It is remarkable that the nature of evil is to attempt to lure the innocent and pure into its guise, however there are always telltale signs which reflect its true nature, and the discerning and pure student is able to muster up their inner faith to perceive truth and holiness in the wake of lies and falsehood.
The Grady twins.. Forever
Once again, you are, by far, the best film analyst on youtube
Jack uses the phrase "white man's burden" to express his frustrations and grievances, particularly about his family responsibilities and perceived societal pressures. His casual and somewhat mocking use of the phrase contrasts sharply with its historical connotations, underscoring his deteriorating mental state and his growing disconnection from reality and social norms.
Could it be about SA of children?
1.Pic @ end from the past = cycle of abuse.
2.Impossible layout of hotel = family's portraying normalcy to others but behind closed doors there's abuse
3.Disabeling avenues for the wife to take child to doctor = excuses abusers give to convince the parent the child is fine
4.Childs reaction to abuse in the hotel room = common reaction to SA
There are so many more similarities to draw from this story.
I've never actually seen the movie so my analysis is based only on this youtube video
When Jack is waiting for his interview, he is shown seated in the hotel lobby reading a Playgirl magazine that contains an article about inces+
There's a scene with an adult male "ghost" receiving oral from another person dressed as a animal
Danny exhibits the symptoms of D.I.D., which is strongly correlated with severe childhood trauma
Jack is an abusive alcoholic with a history of harming Danny
Wendy shows many of the hallmarks of an abused spouse
Awesome Vid!
Thank You very much for Your Work! Greetings from Germany
Started with easy shallows and luring me to wade out past my depth far off into the deep! Nice exploration of premonition a narrative device, Father son dualism, Kipling's Poem, Desire, Intelligent Evil, external Salvation, Suffering, and the power of innocence played over Wendy & Danny wandering in the Maze.
15:38 what was Wendy supposed to think? Of course she would think that Jack did it. They’re in the middle of nowhere.
Danny unlocked the door.
I don’t normally care that much about ads on RUclips, but oh my god the amount of ads made this video almost unwatchable. I did stick around and watch the whole thing, the video is great and I loved it, but as a non subscriber if this was any other video I would have given up
Thank you for this video. 🙏
Thanks...Ullman literally gives Jack the ''thumbs up'' gesture while recounting the the horrific violence that took place in the hotel, smiling while warning him of the dangers of isolation. Jack seems unperturbed. As to reincarnation Danny rides the big wheel...a metaphor for The Wheel of Life.. the cycle of birth and rebirth and existence in samsara? The Hell Realm is depicted as a place partly of fire and partly of ice. In the fiery part of the realm, Hell Beings (Narakas) are subjected to pain and torment. In the icy part, they are frozen.
Interpreted psychologically, Hell Beings are recognized by their acute aggression. Fiery Hell Beings are angry and abusive, and they drive away anyone who would befriend or love them. Icy Hell Beings shove others away with their unfeeling coldness. Then, in the torment of their isolation, their aggression increasingly turns inward, and they become self-destructive.
Great video!
Well done.
Thank you for putting this together. One point. When Kubrick talked about Grady releasing Jack from the pantry, he is referring to his thoughts on the novel. See Rob Ager's video about other ways Jack may have exited the pantry. Most Sincerely, Chris Howley, Wollaston, MA
Regarding the spatial inconsistencies, such as the doors that would go to rooms that can't exist because of the Colorado Lounge, we have to look at how Kubrick looked at cinematography. One actor who worked with Kubrick (who was getting frustrated with doing 60 or 70 takes for a scene like Kubrick was infamous for) commented after finishing a scene that he thought it was a "good" take. Kubrick responded, "Good is nice; interesting is better." Kubrick wanted the symmetry of the opposing doors in the hallway and didn't care that, logically, the rooms couldn't exist.
Think about how that hallway would look with doors only on one side. It's boring and lacks symmetry. It isn't 'interesting'.
This straddles a fine line between thought-provoking and. . .
Brilliant.
Great observations, good listen.
This is a great video! If you ever came back to the topic, perhaps you’d consider a comparison with the book as King did not care for the movie and the book has some big insights into these scenes that give them a lot more context than the film. The differences between the two versions are really interesting!
9:29 - Notice the Tang, dried powder kool aid...in a freezer? Kubrick put so much in the details here. We are in a Wendy halucination when we see inconsistencies in reality, like Tang in a freezer and light switches that change location...
AKA the misogynistic interpretation
Did you know Stanleys dads name was Jacques but went by Jack
Did you know that the actor who played Jack was also called Jack? Ooooh, spooky 👻😂
@@Marc-dj5fk hey now.... I just thought it was interesting.... I could have gone full tard and explained the gematria and numerical codes
@@MatthewGill-nv4tb also the hotel that inspired Stephen king to write the shining was called the STANLEY hotel. Yea, people have names 🤷
@@Marc-dj5fk I have a hemorrhoid named Marc-dj5fk
Honestly, there’s no way that ain’t the main reason Jack Torrence resonated with Kubrick when he read the book. The film is deeply personal, to the filmmaker as much as to the viewer. Danny = Stanley
I've been to Timberline Lodge so many times, and it feels pretty tiny when you're there. So, it's so creepy for me even when Danny's just riding around the hotel at the beginning. Also, Timberline Lodge as literally at the tree line of a volcanic cone: there is no place at all for a hedge maze - there's barely room for a parking lot!
The Timberline was solely used for external shots... The inside of Timberline was not used at all. A different lodge, as well as soundstages built in London, made the interior of the Overlook.
Dr. SLEEP answers the question about whether Dick Hallorann became part of the Overlook or not.
Fascinating analysis, really enjoyed it.
A true masterpiece
gems like that deserve so much more noticing
Great video. The Shining is amazing, 45 years later there's still an ocean of interpretations that are fresh, interesting, diverse and don't take away from anything else already divined from the movie; like this one. Is there any other movie like that?
Great content, as always.
Danny has the "shinning" because the father was sexually abusing him. It is known as the "key of Solomon" , The creator warns NOT to pass your children through the fire.
Yep Master K went really dark with this one and EWS but 99.995 of folks will never get the symbolism.
@@JWPanimation don't know who Master K is.. Have you been following the Trump psyop, of him having to pay 454 million, but he'd be "pardoned" if he pays 175 million?
you lost me at "the creator warns....." because that came from someones imagination for sure.
Given the discussion of patterns in the end and the crazy geometry of the hotel, I was surprised that you didn't cover the changing patterns in the carpet, especially when Danny is rolled the ball. It's when that pattern changes that he's traumatized by Room 237, for instance. But there's still so much depth to this film that perhaps covering everything would yield a 4 hour video.
Amazing analysis
This has almost a perfect analysis of the movie
I actually just finished the movie so this is pretty much perfect to get a gist of what’s going on in the outlook hotel!
For some reason? They left the kid in the game room so he can play instead of be bored with the grown ups. Silly goose.
Interesting to see that you use a couple of parts of the movie that weren’t in the version released in Australia (or Europe?) in the cinema back in the day. The most noticeable were the Doctor scene with Wendy and Wendy’s vision of skeletons in the hotel - both not present when I first saw the film back in the cinema, and on my Kubrick Blu-Ray box set. The 4K UHD disc was the first time I saw the US version, makes it a slightly different film. The interview at the beginning is also noticeably shorter in the non-US version. So without those scenes I come at this film as one more centred on Jack and his descent into madness via the evil that exists in the Overlook Hotel. He was a weak man, with flaws that made him susceptible to the evil in the hotel, while other people weren’t, such as Dick Hallorann.
Great video
What a great synopsis
I hate knowing they used a dummy of Danny when Wendy is holding him yelling at Jack...it looks so ridiculous 😂
I don't know if it means anything but when Danny is in the bathroom of his family's apartment looking at himself in the mirror. I noticed their bathtub has the shower curtain pulled too and it had a green hue to it like the bathroom in room 237.
I made the mistake of waiting in a long line to see the Shining. I was too late to catch the first showing, so I had to wait over 2 and a half hours to see the next show at midnight. Got home by around 3 in the morning. That night, or early morning if you will, I had the worst nightmares I had ever had in my life. I still remember them to this day, not necessarily the details, but the horrible feelings.
Could the young-old ghost in the room be laughing at Jack, not just she played an evil joke, but she's laughing to his face because she was there with the first Jack in the picture at the end ? She's laughing at his downfall .
My, how times change, you don't see the Wendy weakness in today’s film females. Today's woman would martial art Jack at the first sign of trouble😂 Good well researched vid !
it is odd / interesting how the film makes people obsess about it,
Great video. Thank you.
A couple of things to note. 1) You can see the release lever for the door in the pantry. Jack’s hand is resting on it, in the low angle as he speaks through the door.
This means there might well be a practical explanation for everything. And so now if you look at the film from a logical level the person who attacked Danny is most likely Wendy - as Jack was asleep at that point, and Danny says he was attacked by a crazy lady.
2) In the original screenplay Halloran was going to come to the Overlook to kill Jack and then take his place killing the family, which kind of means that, like 2001, it’s thematically a film about whittling down selective entries, to see who is going to be let into the afterlife. Jack ultimately winning this prize and getting to go to the party - Remembering that Jack is positioned as a caretaker who is seen as literally being late to a party at one point in the film.
I think it wasn't intended this way, but the film functions well as an examination of psychological trauma. Traces left, intrusions into present reality, generational transmission.
Im obsessed with this movie, i seen every Rob's analysis videos...i most say your video was amazing! Your deep dive made me watch it twice! ❤❤❤ good job sir 🎉🎉🎉🎉