This new horse has different problems that what I've had recently.
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2024
- This new horse has some nice things about her but there are also some issues that must be corrected.
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she's judging you too. Figured she has found a fair leader, and she is happy about that!
Seems to move more like a TB…hind legs tend to rotate to the lateral at the fetlocks. That may be from the lack of muscle in the back end.
Agreed.
I see that too.
Man, this horses right hind and stifle look exactly like our new horse. I’m here for this. We haven’t decided what we think.
I enjoy how you share what you are seeing and address how she moves in the backend.
Lovely mare. Those hind feet really do twist, I'm interested in what a farrier might do.
We can clearly see the weak hind end, Tim has great exercises to improve that!
My friend had to put her 27 year old Arab down last Friday due to him almost falling over with those exact weak stifles. He had other issues too, Cushings, heart murmur, lots of melanomas. But he walked exactly like this mare ever since I saw him over 15 yrs. ago. I would occasionally mention it but she just didn't think it was a big deal. Good to know I knew what I saw was not right. Too bad she refused to do research on this issue.
@@OnceUponaTimeline almost looks like an ex big lick horse they do the same twisting
Sometimes trying to correct movement due to conformation with farrier work causes more harm than good when the horse is over a year old, 2 at the most.
Adding muscle and suppleness correctly helps more than anything and doesn't usually cause an issue somewhere else.
The exception would be the older horse that can't walk well, but even then you have to look at total structure and not just deficit.
She is nice. She just apesrs that she hasn't been worked in a while. Sure looks like an OTTB, Her ankles look like they've got some wear. But she is sound so they're myst be old and the joints are modeled but stable. She is very quiet. No way would my thoroughbreds just looked at the cows cavorting in the pen next door. They'd have been runnin backwards and sideways at warp speed. Lots of snorting and blowing. She just looked. Pretty good for a new place with lors going on!
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I really like the slow mo parts so we can see better what you mean about her weak stifles.
Her back feet look funny. They twist or look pigeon toed in the back. I’m no pro by any means. Just letting you know I’m trying to learn something. Trying to pay attention. You did mention something in the beginning of video about back feet and shoeing, you could have been talking about her, I was zoning out. Good luck with her. She seems like a nice horse.
She looked like a thoroughbred when you walked her out. The view from behind was a little concerning as in a little bowed. Anyway, she seems nice. I don't blame her from being a little distracted by the playing. If she is a warmblood, there's a good possibly that she had basic dressage training.
When you first mounted you could see the worry/ concern on her face and in her eyes even though you mentioned her body wasn't stiff. I wonder if she is just a bit apprehensive from being in a new place with a rider she isn't familiar with. She sure doesn't mind the cows being rambunctious.
She seems like a nice well behaved mare.
Something is off with her hind fetlocks, both sides turn out and the foot turns in on both, going either to the left or to the right.
She doesn’t look painful, but it seems to put her off balance from what I can see.
I know you’ll see it when you watch the video of her.
I’d also like to give an update on the electro equiscope we just had done on our fast gelding. Went for third set of images yesterday. It has helped tremendously. He’s like a brand new horse again. Even seemed to affect ( improve) the bone a little. Vet said let’s try 30 days once a year and see how he does. The second horse developed an abscess and had to come home. It’s bouncing around all over the place. So far, I’m pleased.
Good morning guys. Like your evaluation Tim. Thank you for video Tim & Melinda,😄
I can’t wait to see how this one progresses as you put weight on her and get her conditioned. I would like to see a comparison of her hind end before she leaves… a before and after if you will.
More explanation on disengagement- good to know!
Very interesting description of what you are seeing in your evaluation of this horse
She moves very much lkke an OTTB. They can be weak in the back end as some drag themselves along from the front. The speed control issue also makes sense as race horses tend to slow down when you loosen up the reins and spped up when you take hold of them. The opposite of what we know
Those back legs look concerning and the front over at the knee , I’d actually be worried to ride this horse
It looks like this horse has a bowed tendon on the rear right leg at the hock. I had this happen to one of my good mares. It took a few months to get over it, but she eventually recovered.
She started having her ears follow you so she's starting to pay attention
Nice 🙂
Our new thoroughbred moves exactly like this horse moves. No hind end. Kinda new to thoroughbreds. Still trying to figure him out. His hind feet twist and move like that. He’s so immature and struggling right now.
Thanks for the slow motion. She seems to be picking up what you are trying to tell her well. But then you did say you want her for her mind more than her body, which is music to any smart woman's ears. 😂
Those twisting hind legs are concerning
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those wonky legs are all over the place. I kept fearing she would fall over
Hi tim, she looks like a young horses and a cute good job with the animals. Do i hear your cows and calefs
Yes, I could see some good evidence that she’s weak in the rear. When she was standing, she was forward loading, and her fetlocks were a little hyper extended.
Where's your water truck, Tim?😮
What would you do if the horse ignores steady pressure?
Like the others here and you, Tim, she does twist those back feet - does it seem like she is tied in behind the knees in front and her front left wasn’t weighted when you mounted as she was moving that knee - like she has tendon pain? She tripped on that same left front in the counter bend, and drags that toe around the bend too.
The head bob was really noticeable when she started to carry a rider is what jumped out at me she was struggling with something and to look closer and then notice what you both did after. Guess I'm slow, lol.
I will be referencing this vid to start my Morgan mare. I noticed with this mare, her off rear pastern- is it weak? Or just my eyes. Seems like the hoof bends to the inside when she walks.
Her left leg is trembling. When you first got on her. Needs checking
Back hoof?
Her hind legs look like spaghetti. Also ended up in a very strange position at the end when asked to back up. Interested to see what will happen with her.
Some Standardbred in far background?
She looks out of condition. And at 4:30 as you begin saddling her, she’s standing with both front legs angled back, with her weight forward: looks odd. Tim, do please watch this video and notice how high up the clouds of dust float: you’re breathing that in constantly.
Nice enough mare, so far.
Is this a standardbred?
I know you are working with a new recorder...could you work on keeping the background color? It is hard to watch with a glaring white background...blinds me (old eyes).
She looks like my boy.
question about how you lunge her if you don't mind answering please. I realize you are changing directions frequently to get her mind on you. Towards the end of that as she started to get a little better-do you wait until her head is a bit towards you to turn her? When lunging my young guy I like to change directions when he is looking outside to get him to learn to watch me more, but would like to reward when he does watch me by making an easy turn-or is that the wrong thing to do? Should I just let him go on his merry way when he is correctly bent, or make a turn that is easy for him since he is watching? Should I maybe quit/reward and let rest once I get a nice watch and turn-even if it's in the beginning of the session? Then send away when his mind starts fixating on something outside? Hope this makes sense-i'd love to know your thoughts please!
I always want a correct turn with effort. Reward correct with effort. That encourages more try. Rewarding after a slow turn teaches them mediocrity is ok. Like rewarding your child for C's on their report card.
Thank you Tim
Her back hooves turn in as she steps alot... i noticed it in her other video while you tritted..
Tim - My gelding seems to maybe get annoyed and a bit testy after maybe 20 minutes of doing circles and such in the arena. Is that possible or could I be reading him wrong?
Probably getting g bored and needs to be challenged with something different.
@@timandersonhorsetraining - What I figured. Thanks!
I know this is probably a dumb question but I’m a newbie, How does Sapphire or any other horse you’re dealing with know when you’re talking to them rather than commenting for video? Is it your body language?
Thank you sincerely 😊
She does look weird from behind.
Y s, her back right foot or leg has a problem
The way she moves makes me think she's at the upper end of teens not the lower but I guess some TBs do move weird even as youngsters.
Thoroughbred? She offered her feet willingly
She just looking at the cows that were running around in the other pen
Broken down? Nice mare, though.
DOES she have wobbler or something similar?
Check her upper lip for a tattoo
I truly believe she is in pain in the rear legs
Yes, so do I! Lots of head-bobbing could mean she's in pain I've heard. Hope I was told wrong.
She DOES seem to be walking funny.. a bit short-strided, maybe?
She is stepping shorter on the right hind. Could be weakness, could be something else. The horse is running through the owner. Could be an amateur, could be placing weight on the front end because of something in the rear. Running from pain? Only time and training will tell.
Ours is doing the same thing. Vet says build the hind and reevaluate.
Pasterns, dumb auto correct
She seems pretty panicked
But she settled pretty quickly
Seems like a nice mare
I saw a calm horse? Where did you see panic?
she doesnt even look sound... those hind legs the way she rings them... wow...
You need to wet down your corrals before you lunge your horses or your lungs will take a dump. Your breathing way to much dirt.
Giving unsolicited advice to grown man who is not a member of your family or a very close friend, is presumptuous and disrespectful. It’s also a sign of someone who thinks too much of their self. Just be nice.
There are a lot of different arena surfaces. In the PNW you will find dirt, ground rubber, or sand. The sand is great for the people who have covered arenas that have open areas where the rain can get in as it's not slick when wet.
In the southwest we have sandy dust constantly, it’s everywhere all the time and it’s so hot and dry that you can’t wet it down 😂
@@jenniferlehman326
DUH.