Marking 250 years since Captain James Cook first visited NZ
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This year marks 250 years since Captain James Cook first visited in New Zealand and the Government is spending millions of dollars to commemorate his arrival. But the anniversary has provoked a fierce debate over Cook’s true legacy - an intrepid explorer or a murderous invader? Whena Owen with this report.
Whatever you think, James Cook helped lay the foundation for a British colonised land that treated its natives a lot more fairly and humane than almost any other on earth
If you look at "One news" videos on youtube. The comment section on literally every video is closed except for the "Maori vs Pakeha". They know it's a touchy subject but yet the media loves watching all the HATRED and arguments . I noticed the same thing with stuff news.
On cooks 2nd voyage several men under his command were killed and eaten by Maori.
Cook returned on his 3rd voyage and forgave the Maori who did it - an action that lost him respect amongst his Polynesian and European crew and lost him Mana from Maori ( Maori thought he must be a slave with no Mana because he was not taking revenge)
Yes people DO forget the true Cook story in modern times
Thoughts?
Damn right mate - this is a load of codswallop. Cook was no murderous invader - he didn't invade for one, and he was highly restrained in dealing with indigenous people. People may not like it but this is history - to not teach it is just plain stupid. In the end, world history is full of group A overcoming group B - the Maori of all people should understand that (the modern Maori don't seem to, because they were the losers, but the Maori of the 1770s would have understood it implicitly). Maori weren't restrained in their treatment of the Chatham Islanders or their own neighbours, or members of expeditions led by Cook, Tasman and others, and had no compunction in killing them if the opportunity arose, and invading their territory and completely supplanting them.
What if it was the Maori of 1770 invading England - would they have treated the people at their mercy the same as the Brit's treated them?
So for the Maori of 2019 to bewail this is - frankly - very un-Maori of them.
salty spaceman Sadly lots do! It’s convenient for the victim mindset!
Ask the Hawaiians. They dealt to him after Cook attempted to take a Hawaiian chief as hostage in order to bargain for resources to fix his damaged ship. The Hawaiians killed Cook for his arrogance.
They make Cook sound like a devil. If you read journal accounts of the first encounter and subsequent circumnavigation, you can hardly call the Endeavour the "death ship" as far as NZ goes. The first encounter, which resulted in several deaths, came down to misunderstanding on both sides. Whether the charging Maori men with spears toward the 4 men by the pinnance was a display of culture or an act of aggression, you could hardly fault the boys for reacting the way they did in that situation. Cook and the crew didn't intend on killing about. Just read their journals. They expressed regret that these events happened and wanted to avoid these kinds of interactions in the future. Throughout the voyage of NZ, Cook and others went out of their way to trade with Maori rather than attack and steal. Why would they make up these wishes in their journals if these weren't their true feelings? Who would they be placating in the year 1769/70 by trying to conceal their true evil intentions. The truth is, all the history of Nz is being revised through the lens of European hatred. The main narrative is "white man is the devil" and all history must now be interpreted through this narrative.
That’s why we all here because of jame cook
Zachtavian REID yes 🤣
Bless Captain Cook
No i aint maybe the pakeha but not me
Forever grateful for Cook 🇳🇿🇳🇿🇳🇿
@Only whites get skin cancer Cope Maori, Cook is a legend.
You try to drown snails? What a sick childish mind you have.
To be fair, Capt James Cook was an explorer. and with all due respect to the Maori people, nothing was said that maybe the Maoris were aggressive to the four sailors guarding the ship... and action was taken... thoughts ?
and how neatly the issue of the Moriori's extermination at the hands of the Polynesian cannibal invaders is avoided.
@@mausplan3890 a significant amount of Moriori died as a result of European disease, so colonization played a massive role in their survival.
@@mausplan3890 also cannablisim was not practiced as widely as European texts have made it seem.
Shit there pants when they saw our Tupuna tattooed face.....like actualz
@@nikiburtenshaw9490 so they did kill them
Cook was an explorer and his job was to map NZ.. he wasn't a crook !!… but with all due respect... maybe the Maoris were aggressive to the sailors.. after all, 6 sailors were killed and cannibalized later.. nothing was mentioned about that..
Because his plan was too colonise and take over everywhere. His fleet had done dirty things upon our maori people and I'm glad he's under ground 😂😂
Cannibalazed probably that white mens flesh tasted bad kkk
@@teelawrence9810 Ignorance.
Capt. James Cooked
I saw a Thai movie once where a family had been displaced by an inevitable historical process (the replacement of elephants in forestry by machines). A young man was complaining and his grandfather told him 'this is life, the big fish eats the little fish'.
Thats it, it might not be fair according to modern standards but what do fish know of fairness. We live in an unfair world and Maori culture was going to collide with the Western world sometime. Not sayimg it hasnt been traumatic for them. But surely its better to look forward now. And to be fair, the Maori of 1770 had less trouble with eating little fish than the Brits did.
"They'll have a party because that's the day business was taken care of" so she's basically condoning the murder of an innocent man and an advocate for cannibalism for that fact.
the locals hate what cook brought over but it looks like they love burgers and beer
Rob 48 yes and I bet they loved the diseases
he attemped to kidnap one of the kings
cook was amazing ahead of his time,
In history no nation can claim to be all saints, but we should remember all people's accomplishments and admit wrongdoing and move forward.
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So where is Tupaia in this? Are we forgetting the tahitian navigator who help cook?
His worst mistake...he never made it back alive him self..got white man sickness on his way back...wol that's what they we called it back then...
@@alphamaori6990 He caught malaria, along with other crew members.
Like Hernan Cortes it took Captain Cook to bring civization to a savage culture...
Cook got on pretty well with the Samoans and Tahitians
If that ship sails around aotearoa again it'll be sunk in our waters
The Maoris charged , the Europeans reacted as anyone would.
Pretty straightforward really. So no need
And?
Seems to me they were doing a demonstration of force say like the Haka and the British thought that it was an attack.
Jack Brown the net
Rowe, Woodhouse, Murphy,
Facey, Hill, Bell, Jones, Cavenaugh, Molton, Sevilley...RIP
The Hawaiians killed captain cook
Yes we killed James cook but we showed Respect to him and he brought respect to my people and I am the seventh grandson to Kamehameha 1 that he met on his ship 🚢 and he brought us food as well and we wanted a trade not war so I know that we wanted to trade not war and his assistant officer Phillips gave us 9 knives and we killed him with our fist 🤜 and the knives he brought to our Aina and he met my seven time grandfather Kamehameha 1 and we Hawaiians knew he wasn’t a god known as Lono so we were testing to see if he was lono but we knew he wasn’t lono and so we killed him and we wanted his Mana his Spiritual energy and his power so I know that he met my seven time grandfather Kamehameha 1 and I am the seventh grandson to Kamehameha 1
@@kahoaliiaiu7130 you killed him for his soul ‘mana’
@@IamPsybo you wont get it
Dame Anne Salmond is a great researcher and writer, so glad she was a part of this.
What a man. John in London.
RIP Captain Cook
November 7th, 1728 ~ February 14th, 1779.
Go cook my hero
Such a great man
Cook ended up being shit on Hawaii lol..
They 8 him......lol get it???
A Big Deal is being made about captain cookies 250 years Landing in New Zealand celebrations ,Whoaa let’s slow down the hoopla by English descendants in the rush to celebrate the the arrival of small pox ,alcoholism,stds, and mass theft of the first peoples Polynesian Maori land Let’s remember the discovery and naming of New Zealand (Dutch Name ) by Dutch explorer Abel Tasman 175 years earlier who respectfully sailed on after realising Aotearoa (Maori name for New Zealand )was already colonised by Polynesians .
Abel Tasman didnt quite sail on respectfully. He sent a landing party to shore and the maoris quickly killed them. Abel Tasman got the hell out of there.
I hope all NZers will be mindful of both perspectives rather than taking one view and will understand the fact that Cook and his crew were the ones making the effort to invite themselves in to someone else's home, understanding well that conflict could ensue with a negative impact on both sides. With that being said, I'd like to see the replica, but it's been banned from our rohe.
Agree and well said. I dont think Cook had expected anything like the Maoris after he had established friendly trading posts with the other south pacific islands. I'm thinking that Cook did make a mistake in going ashore uninvited first as he did have a Tahitian on board who spoke the same language as the Maoris. There was no bad intentions from Cook. His goal was to map the south pacific and to form trading post with them for future expeditions. Was the English empire trying to expand their reach? Absolutely.
But white people with red hair were here first in New Zealand the the Moari came ate them then cook came. Moari stole this land
Captain James Cook is a total legend
Cook is out saviour
He was a good meal for my people of Hawai'i thank you
@@dalastkanakamaoli9058 thats all they got haha, cook is immortal now
You can have your party and do your smirking at the 'taking care of business' on that day but the redcoats came back and took care of their business and the country later so smirk on that.
To celebrate James cooks death is just disgusting, disgraceful and totally outrageous.
He was responsible for countless amounts of rapes an murders
Andre Tahu
And where did you get this source of information from? Can you give me the link?
@@andretahu1296 He never murdered and raped any indigenous person (he flogged and cropped the ears of thieves in Tonga and Huahine on his 3rd voyage however).
@Andre Tahu there’s no contemporary writings that support that Cook did that. It’s literally comes from oral tradition which is a exceptionally poor way to record an historical event. Effectively Chinese whispers
One of Captain cooks men killed Te Maro
The agents of many European imperial nations made claims of possession on the basis of ‘discovery’ in other places. But then nothing followed from those claims.
other than houses, cities, settlements, law and order, economics, farming, history
"That's the day business was taken care of" that's badass. I love hearing a story of "not on my land" to colonizers
weird and she probably has mostly British ancestry aka colonizer DNA
If we never landed, where would they be now without our technology.
With a different system to our own.
If cook never landed the French or Portuguese or Spanish would have......Like Maori would have preferred that?
Good point - its like in Australia - do people really think they could have just existed in NZ and Australia in a kind of historical vacuum, where only nice things happened (not like the Maori invasion of the Chatham Islands, nothing nice about that) and everybody understood each other 100% and the rest of the world just decided to leave them alone and let them exist with no disruptions up to 2019 and beyond. Apparently that is what they believe. Good luck with that theory. Because what happened is the story of humans - its always happened, and NZ in 2019 is not such a bad place to live compared to most other places in the world, so it all appears to have turned out pretty much for the best.
Fish and chips are not technology because that is all you invented
@@peacefulwarrior6285 What about pavlova?
History is history, accept it and move on.
Punch you smack bang in the face..an tel u "history is history"......
So Captain James Cook going up the river bank to investigate away from the boats [and the crew protecting the only way home] feeling antsy in a foreign place [likely outnumbered greatly] and started shooting when the Natives got to close unnerving them means the entire legacy or goodness Captain James Cook brought to New Zealand [Australia in general] (things like Parliament and Law) should be scolded and looked down upon... Like it was actually James Cook's fault while he was up river and not in direct charge of the crew or something right??? aka look more closely at the circumstances involved over the hype and division... I say be Patriotic about the anniversary and ship replica... As well the knowledge of reality and reason over irrationality and smears without basis...
Banning of Endeavour replica in NZ town is ‘immature’...: ruclips.net/video/2vEyk_57HyY/видео.html
How do you smear a mans name [as the blame for what transpired] when he wasn't even on scene??? Please explain that one to me on how any Judge would convict... Yet Cook's been convicted... By the Judging Court of Public Opinion...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Cook
Cook was a dedicated Naval officer who risked his life for a life on the ocean. You should worship him.
Captain Cook, done a pop, behind the kitchen toilet, he got some grass and tickled his ass and liked it so much he did it again.
i know that one lol
friends and i use to say, captain cook done a pop behind the cabindoor, along came a mouse tickled his arse and made him do some more lol.
Our colonial forefathers stole their land, colonised it and became an independent country. The stolen land was passed down from one generation to the next, up to the present day.
Our colonial cousin has a responsibility to give back their land, regardless of the fact that you were born in their country.
And this has something to do with cook because??????..........
he made a map?????
give it back to half British half Maori half casts? i don't think so
@Gina Frendo who's we?
@Gina Frendo not a good idea threatening people over the internet be very careful
Imagine a Maori that didn’t complain.....
Whakaarohia tetahi Pakeha kaore i amuamu .....
K
Lies, New Zealand isn’t real
Blahhh
Noice