Well, he told her that winning the ticket to the ship was the best thing that ever happened to him because it led him to her, all while he was literally freezing to death. That's just a longer (and touching) variation of "I love you". 🤣
All rose had to do is NOT jump off the lifeboat back onto the Titanic. Had she not jumped back onboard Jack would've found the lounge panel piece, and he would've gotten on it himself and survived.
Cal did not love Rose, he wanted to own Rose. This scene does not show how he loved her, it shows how he dismisses her. Closing the music box she was enjoying and pushing it to the side, laughing condescendingly because she understands French. Money is the only language this man knows; he didn’t buy her the diamond, he bought himself the diamond for it to be presented proudly on his beautiful wife for all to see.
People thing that he loved her because he was willing to spend so much on her. But the thing is, as his wife, he wants her to be gorgeous and dressed and jeweled in a best way money can buy because it shows his status. The fancier the wife, the more important and wealthy her man seems to be. That's the point. Well dressed wives are a status symbol. All the monetary things that he gives her are investment for him.
So did I. It was as if he was pushing aside her needs & desires, to impose his own. Thinking that a rare expensive piece of jewelry, would appease her. She wasn't like most other women of the day. Material things weren't impressive to her. But he thought that's what it would take to win her over...
But if youre playing a role in society as opposed to living YOUR life... moneyand diamonds can greatly empower you and your status(which is what you predicate yourself on)
everyone has there opinion on this, and here's mine: people say rose cheated on cal, lied to cal, and used cal-and that is partially true. people also say cal truly loved her-and perhaps that's true as well. what I see is to show his "affection" for her, cal buys rose a huge diamond necklace and tells her she can have whatever monetary thing she wants in life. Jack shows his affection for her by saving her life, then treating her not as an inferior because she is a woman or a princess, just because she is first class and he is not, but as an equal who has opinions and deserves to voice those opinions and live like she wants. he doesn't force her into anything, he gives her an option. and when she decides that she wants him, he honors her far more than cal ever did. in the end he was going to sacrifice himself for her sake. if that's not love, I don't know what is.
I think you are right, but I also think it was a foolish, immature decision for Rose. As a person of great inherited wealth, I can tell you that people like us are confronted with these kinds of circumstances throughout our formative years. If Rose had told Jack to go pound sand, she still would have lived, and so would Cal. Then, she would have lived a great life of wealth and comfort. The financial destruction and subsequent suicide of Cal was just thrown in for convenience. Suppose she had chosen Jack, and Jack had somehow lived. They probably would have had little to no financial means, and she would have become an unhappy, battered and abused wife with few means of assistance.
Cadet Arthur If Rose was my wife I would make her work for me while I get drunk. If she doesn't bring rent money I'll lock the door and mail Cal that I've been boning his ex and tell her where she. Then I'll hire goons to kill Cal and skin him then use his skin to pretend to be him. I'll take the money he has and run for president so hillary nor trump win in 2016.
He was only saying that out of malice for Jack and to piss off Rose. Before she started running off with Jack, Cal never did anything malicious or spiteful to her, but she goes and sleeps with Jack and leaves a nude drawing with a bitchy note.
It's because Jack is more down to earth and captures her attention more. She craves new experiences than the one she is used to. With Cal, it's always the same thing. I think she's jaded by her lifestyle: all the materialism, and haughtiness of the first class lifestyle. Let's not forget that Rose is actually 17. She hasn't lived her life yet. In some ways she's a woman but also a young girl who is challenging, rebellious and having an existential crisis. I think Cal and Jack both valued Rose, but with Cal being unreciprocated love. She has no say in the affair since her mother set her up with him. She's just a young girl. It's no surprise that she will shake up and rebel to propriety.
She stays very true to herself as a person in everything she does including appearance. In her newest adventure Mare of EastTown, they tried to touch up the poster they put out advertising the show. Kate saw it and said no no no. I know where all of my crows feet are I know where my wrinkles are. Put them back please. 🤩🤗. We Stan a Queen that loves herself inside and out!
I agree. Kate's skin complexion is absolutely marvellous in this movie. Really pale and fair. Like an Elven woman. Add the red curly hair and blue sapphire eyes and she looks even better. No wonder people had such a crush on her.
The contrast between Cal and Jack in how they treat Rose is so stark. Not just in explicit moments like Cal yelling at and slapping Rose vs. Jack saving and devoting himself to Rose, but also in more subtle moments like this. Cal doesn’t even try to understand why Rose was feeling down. He just starts showering her with jewels to make her swoon and focus on him and what he could offer her. Jack does the total opposite. He makes it clear that he doesn’t think Rose’s wealth should make her immune to negative feelings. He asks what happened and why she felt down, and even asks if she loves the man she’s about to spend a lifetime with. He CARES about her feelings, and respects them, and wants to understand. Even though he doesn’t get the upper-class life because he’s never had money, he still wants to understand her, and actively makes efforts to do so. Jack gives Rose a far greater gift than a diamond could ever be: the gift of someone who listens and cares.
William S I remember that scene that he said she would honour him as a wife is required to honour a husband. Didn't seem that unreasonable of a demand, given she was dishonoring him, running around with another man, hurting him and embarrassing him. Got nothing to do with her being his property, just common decency and consideration. He had every right to be angry and hurt.
What a nice man sending a guy to spy on his fiance, that's a relationship build on trust lol. No, he treated her like property. He didn't pay much attention to what she likes - dinner scene when orders a lamb for them both. He expected her to be like every rich girl he knows, easily bought with money and lavish gifts and probably only wanted her because of a good name and beauty. Also, she was only dancing then. In the third class' part of a ship, if not for a Lovejoy spying no one would have known she was there. He could have been angry, cause she didn't tell him, bt he had no right to throw a tantrum, threaten her and flip the table.
gwirith14 It's likeliest Cal and Ruth noticed Rose missing and asked Lovejoy to look for her. Not spying. If I went on a dance date with a man other than my fiance, especially without his knowledge, I would be dishonouring him. Rose would be ruined for even being seen with Jack unattended by a chaperone. How was Cal supposed to get through to her when her response was pretty much just deal with it? She should've apologised for going downstairs with Jack not treated Cal like he should just accept his fiancee cuckolding him and ruining herself. Anyone would flip out at that level of callousness and impropriety. He wouldn't truly love her if he put up with that either. By the way, the man ordering the woman's food is an old etiquette rule. It has everything to do with the fact that he's paid for it. Unless she's ungrateful, which Rose is, she wouldn't almost roll her eyes at him ordering her something as expensive as lamb. Oh no, how dare he order, the great Rose, lamb! My fiance decides what I should have, because he's paying for it. That's fair and I prefer it that way. It takes the pressure off the woman, who if polite, would order the cheapest option, and lets him lead and treat her. When someone gives you a gift, you don't turn your nose up at it because it wasn't what you would've picked, unless you're nasty like Rose. Rose had it better than most people and whined about it. Cal is a monster, because the politically correct audience can't imagine that a woman could wrong a man, because even the movie paints her as a victim when she's not. The man is a monster for reacting to being wronged and hurt beyond measure. He probably shouldn't have slapped her, but she was so damned callous towards him that it would be hard for one to hold back.
It astonishes me that everyone forget how much a jerk Cal was... just because of this one scene he says kind words and gets her a gift and in some how people are saying "oh maybe he did care for Rose" or "he's actually a good man"... No. And the sad thing is there are jerks like this in real life when they pull the same stick that Cal pulled here and they're forgiven because they seem like they meant it. And I feel sorry for those who actually fell for Cal and believed him in this scene because some where along the line... they'll run into a "Cal" and fall for their false promises. But mark my words even if she had chosen him; she would have suffered the same hell she did before... maybe far worse. I can assure you of that, believe me I know.
Nobody is denying that Cal was a jerk. But Rose did treat him incredibly poorly, even when he's being good to her and her family. Not trying to play devil's advocate here, but Rose did blatantly cheat on him.
he tried to control rose way too much. he tried to throw a bunch of gifts at her but at the end of the day that's not what a woman wants. she wants a man who sincerely loves her and supports her everyday. but that's a lot harder to do then putting a fat rock on their hand. men can keep the rock (aka diamond)
Don't forget Cal came to Rose defense after she thought she was being raped by Jack, he didn't know she tried to kill herself, but he confronted Jack in her honor lol
I researched the Heart of the Ocean, and it was a black diamond, even though most people thought it was a sapphire, just because of the deep blue shade. It was beautiful
Cal showed his affection to Rose in the one sure way he knew how. For him, money talks and he was trying to say a mouthful to her. This was his life and how his family likely showed how they cared for each other. I wouldn't say he was trying to bribe her. He just doesn't seem to know a better way to convey his feelings.
you didn't see the whole movie did you. a man slapping you on the face for talking back at him, constantly humiliating you and reminding you that you depend on his money, you think that is caring? he wasn't bribing, he was buying her and her name from her mother. the reason he was marrying her is that her prestigious name would help his business with contacts, and that her noble name would make him more of a ''lord'', that's it. he did not love her one bit, he loved himself and the fact he owned her. at the end of the movie he cared more about the diamond necklace than her life and tried to buy his way to one of the dinghys with it on his pocket which is what mattered to him on that ship
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess to be fair, when he slapped her it was because she had spent the night with another man. For the standards of the time, she had cheated on him. Carl was not a good man, but I dont think he was a bad man. He was a man of his time. Most first class gentlemen were pricks
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessCal was a very practical ,first class man! He was definitely not a bad guy for Rose to loathe at the sight of him!! Definitely!!!!
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess What movie did you watch? He never smacked her for talking back, he slapped her for cheating on him. When did he constantly humiliate her? Or remind her that she depended on his money? And it was very clear that he cared about her, and she didn't care about him. She was the one who acted like a spoiled brat, complaining about the size of the ship, and never being grateful for anything. And if you remember correctly when the ship was sinking Cal gave up a seat on a lifeboat to go to Rose. And when Rose's Mom was talking about their name being the only card to play she meant their family name and status, he was a Pittsburgh steel tycoon. He didn't need her name.
Every time Rose talks in this scene, Cal either talks over her or interrupts her. Except when she says “it’s overwhelming,” which is also the only thing that sounds like it's complimenting the jewelry. The subtle details are incredible.
The way he carelessly closes the musix box and pushes it aside like it's worthless trash makes me angry. And sad. The actor played his role so well, I hate his character. 😅
you can tell Rose wanted to die whenever she was around Cal. She might not have admitted it but you can tell by how she acts she's just really uncomfortable, but with Jack she is the complete opposite.
I’m so sorry for all of you here who say this man LOVED this woman. It means you never truly loved or been loved. Love means sacrifice, trust, care for the other’s wishes and feelings, and Cal lacked all of these. He not only regarded her as a propriety (which was the mindset of that time so he’s not very special), but the reason he really kept looking for her on the ship was that he couldn’t bear the thought of him losing before the poor steerage Jack. It hurt his self-pride. He didn’t go back because he couldn’t stand something bad happening to her. You are so naive. Some people are really terrible yes.
It should have been fairly obvious when he said,he knew she was troubled and didn't pretend to know why. First off,if he truly loved her,he would have asked what was wrong. Second of all,the fact that he didn't know why,shows how materialistic and shallow he is. He can't imagine being unhappy with all of the money they had.
Jealousy was part of the reason that he went looking for Rose. But the scene where he and Jack watched Rose go down in the lifeboat is self-explanatory; Cal was hurting because he realised-- far too late-- that he did genuinely love Rose.
@@CariPR94 Cal gave her the coat because she was cold. In that moment, he was concerned about her getting off safely. He only expressed regret about losing the coat *after* he had chased Rose and Jack away into the flooding ship and realised that he could not join. Both things are true.
Never appreciated this scene as much as I did watching it in my older age. This was a very pivotal scene to illustrate the kind of heelish antagonist that Hockley was. The way he expressed his intentions and desires for Rose came off very similar to the VVitch’s “Would thou like to live deliciously?” scene where the Devil disguised himself as the black goat and bribed her into giving herself to him in exchange for riches, the taste of butter and a pretty dress. The epitome of evil.
I have to go against the flow, and completely agree with you. Cal was definitely bad news, but Jack was, well, sad news. His carefree and impoverished lifestyle had INITIAL appeal to a 17 year old girl raised like a caged princess, but that would have worn off had Rose actually followed him. In the end, she chose a comfortable middle class life with a man who truly loved her, and that is what made the ending of the movie somewhat maddening. She goes to Heaven to meet Jack, and not the poor husband who gave his entire earthly life to her!
yeah jack probably would have ended up a gambling drunk. BUT Jack showed Rose that she could live her life the way she wanted to. She truly loved him because in a way Jack freed her soul. Without him she would have stayed with Cal, which we find out would have ended BADLY.
Jack was always meant to be a fling. Whatever would he have done with Rose after they disembarked? He never inclined that settling down was on his radar. They couldn't afford to ride horses and visit theme parks let alone start a life straight away.
I love how there are so many debates here about Cal VS. Jack because of this scene. And I guess in the end, it comes down to perspective, but I want to give my own take. Cal almost certainly had 'feelings' for Rose, you can't deny that, otherwise, why would he bother fighting for her when the ship is SINKING if she has nothing to offer him and she's treated him like garbage up until that moment. Even pulling a gun on them and risking his life just to get revenge should make it *pretty* clear that he definitely HAD feelings for her, regardless of how shallow and one sided these feelings were. Now, in the case of this movie and the argument between Jack and Cal; the reason why Cal STILL isn't an actual "valid choice" for Rose is simply because of who Rose is. You can criticize her immature handling of the situation when she back talked him, disobeyed him and even cheated, but it's made very clear from the start that she doesn't actually love Cal. People seem to forget that this movie was based during a time when arranged marriages were very, VERY common. Her relationship with Cal was not consensual. It was one way. And she was not happy. You take Jack OUT of the equation and this movie would've ENDED with her jumping off the boat. The events that follow with her "deciding between Jack and Cal" are only there to hide that fact that she cares about Jack. She's not ACTUALLY deciding if she should go BACK to Cal. Not after she finally got a backbone. On the surface, she says she "loves Cal" and because she's engaged, it's impossible for Jack and Rose to continue, but again, she never *wanted* to marry Cal in the first place; remember the scene where Rose's mother BEGS her to marry Cal because they are all out of money? The ONLY possible outcome I see where Rose ends up with Cal is if Jack and Rose COULDN'T escape from them once they were found out, and she was then forced to say "I do" or else they would off Jack. And that's the point. One seemingly "nice" scene from Cal can't negate everything else that's been built up in the movie. Rose's mother is manipulative and controlling and Cal is very traditionalist (in all the WRONG ways), shallow and abusive when he doesn't get his way. Cal only gave her the heart of the ocean because he has generic 'feelings' for her, most likely that of physical attraction and so he's trying to BUY her love, but Rose knows that Jack's feelings for her run far deeper. The connection they've made in such a short period of time is impalpable. So, the only conflict going on at this point is Rose deciding FOR HERSELF, for the first time, if she actually loves this guy who just randomly showed up in her life. And she does. She picks Jack. Other than that "forced marriage or *death* idea," I honestly don't think there's any other "possible outcome" here. [Well, except the possibility that her *AND* Jack get to live happily ever after if she just shared the f@$%ing door!!!] Anyways, ignoring the money aspect, and just looking at the two characters as they are: Cal is very dense, selfish and too focused on the mundane aspects of life, like the gentleman's club and politics for someone like Rose to have deep feelings for him. Bottom line, Rose just isn't compatible with him. "She feels like she's in a crowded room, SCREAMING at the top of her lungs and no one is listening!" Jack, on the other hand, LISTENED. He doesn't care about the "class" difference between them. He's very wholesome, compassionate and he gave Rose something irreplaceable that she kept throughout the rest of her life: a reason to live her life to the fullest. The time they spent together and the last promise she made to him were enough to shape everything that she did from April 15th 1912 forward. The last scene literally explains this with the pictures taken throughout the rest of her life. You personally can think that Cal might've had some heart underneath all the abuse, but you can't deny that Rose would NEVER, *EVER* end up with him. It's just not who she is.
Actually, they did film a scene early on where Rose goes back to her room, feels completely trapped & overwhelmed by it all & begins stabbing herself hysterically with a shrimp fork or something like that. As she's freaking out...she gets up runs from the room & then out to the boat deck crying which is where the scene picks up that WE see in the movie where she's in the black lace overlay dress heading to the back of the ship to off herself by jumping. Cameron deleted the fork stabbing scene in the final cut as it didn't flow well with the rest & wasn't needed as much as the 'hanging off ready to jump' scene did on it's own.
Why did I read this haha, this is all so very true but I still feel cal got walked all over he really wants rose in a lot of ways but she was cold ever since jack came it fuled cals anger. I say if she just tried to like cal things wouldn't have been so distant. I do think that as this was the way the world was back then I'm sure she would have accepted and moved on she would never have jumped either way. And cal too cal should have been more lieniant with rose considering they weren't even married he should have been a more understanding person instead of buying her affection. They both could have done things differently to make it work I truly believe it would have.
I stopped reading the moment you said 'back talked' and 'disobeyed' what is she? His child? A wife is not meant to obey her husband, children are meant to obey their parents. That's exactly why Cal was an ass, coz he also thought he should be obeyed. Slaves obey masters, not wives. Geez.
@@Tommy_111 Uhh yes they are. Especially back then. But okay, let's just reverse the genders then, shall we? How should a woman react if her husband to be was out getting drunk and dancing with strange women and she tells him not to do it again? What if they gave the same response Rose gave to Cal? "I'm not your child that you can command, I'm your fiancé." Is the woman just supposed to sit there and take that crap? Especially if she is the one supporting them? You would immediately scream "dump his ass! He has no respect for you!" He wasn't commanding her, he was telling her she can't behave that way if they're going to be wed. Spouses should obey each other. Relationships don't work or aren't healthy if one doesn't listen to the other or if it's just one calling the shots. Cal wasn't calling all of the shots with Rose. She had a lot of freedoms for a teenager. She wasn't followed at all times, she had access to the money since she could get into Cal's safe, and I think she even had her own room on the ship.
@@Kaboomboo No, if you "flip the genders," the analogy would be a 30 year old woman PURCHASING a barely legal mail-order husband who has no options or real ability to say "no" to her, who then goes out dancing with other women when he discovers love for the first time. If she got angry, everyone would roll their eyes at her and say, "yeah, ya think?" Edited to add: ... and she doesn't even slap her mail-order fiance very often. That's how you know she cares. /s
0:15 I thought the music box was composed music added in the film. Just now I see that it was in the actual scene and that Cal closed the box. This tiny move means so much…
sorry but it has to be said... people wold go for cal? you'd go with a person that flipped the table saying" my wife in practice if not yet by law so u will honour me" over jack who said "Promise me you’ll survive. That you won’t give up, no matter what happens. No matter how hopeless." PEOPLE WOULD GO FOR CAL? y'all crazy ik its just a movie
Keep this in mind and engaged woman really is *a wife and practice* I found that out when on my engagement at that point she was in love with jack and technically there's emotional cheating and there is physically cheating she was on her way to physically cheating she was emotionally cheating technically so you can't really blame Cal for being angry when she is at that point in time a women belonging to another man running around with some guy of lower status and humiliating her fiance women were property
Here is what I don't understand: why women like abusive spouses. If that's what people are fantasizing about in this comment section. Other than that, I would go for his looks only. That's the only decent thing about him, the money I could care less about.
Cal's good to be a Golddigger with. I mean he's not bad looking and rich. If you seek that road look for a guy like him. A guy wanting a quick bride to get his inheritance then divorce and take half his stuff.
@@Vixen743 Back then engagements were far more important than they are today. Because many marriages were arranged and the partners never knew each other, the engagement was technically their first contact and co-living and was also the chance for the families to discuss the economical exchanges and plans and everything so yeah nowadays it is important but at the same time customary and many people don't even do engagements anymore (I mean they are not obligatory). Back then they were really important.
My friend thought she had the heart of the ocean. Literally. She thought Rose and Jack were real and that her great grandmother had given her the real necklace. I told her if the movie WAS real it would be at the bottom of the ocean. She said no. They found it. Her great grandmother bought it from a museum. Probably a gift shop but she wouldn't listen to anyone! 😂😂
Whoa. Your friend has some serious delusions. Then again - there actually was a "J. Dawson" on the Titanic - a Joseph Dawson, who was one of the coal stokers. He was buried in the Titanic cemetery in Halifax, and after the movie's release his grave was inundated with hordes of weeping teenage girls who refused to believe that "Jack Dawson" was fictional and that the "J. Dawson' gravestone wasn't actually the resting place of Leonardo di Caprio. People are weird. What can you do?
It’s not the gift; it’s the intention behind it. I’ve dealt with people like Cal, and if there’s no genuine love behind the giving of a gift then that gift means nothing to me. I don’t care how much money a man like Cal may spend on me. The size of his wallet means nothing if his heart is too small.
"It's overwhelming", says Rose. She doesn't want that aristocratic world. Rose changes her last name (status) and chooses to be an actress. It is to see her in her charming middle-class home, filled with theater posters and objects from her exotic travels. A life that was entertaining, happy.
Did Rose and Cal ever have sex? In some scenes it points a little to yes and in other scenes its more like no. So I'm confused. Also was Jack supposed to have been a virgin before he met Rose?
In the extended scene, Rose says the diamond felt heavy and uncomfortable and I think that’s how she saw the upper class: restrained and dispassionate.
Rose: *Good gracious* Cal: *Perhaps it's a reminder of my feelings for you* Rose: *Is it a..* Cal: *Diamond? Yes. Fifteen carats to be exact. It was worn by Louis the 16th, and they called it the Heart of the Ocean*
Yes, cal loved rose but notice that she was never happy with him. Jack made her happy with who she was. I've seen this many times and everyone has there own opinion. So this is mine💙
He didn't love her!He didn't see her as a person, for god sake! Watch the movie again, see how patronizing, how condescendent he treated her! As if she were a child!Do you really think this is love?
In this particular scene I felt deeply for Cal. I can tell he's trying, that he wants her to accept him and want him back. People may argue that he's trying to win her over with gifts and money, but what makes Cal all the more interesting and misunderstood is that money is all he ever knew. He was brought up that way. You notice just by the way he looks at her, that he just wants her to want him back. He's trying to impress her, and yes he's arrogant but as far as I've already mentioned he was brought up that way. The excitement just to put that necklace around her, her surprise and fascination to the gift makes him happy, because all he wants to do is impress her, as I've said. Jack and Rose had a common interest in art, and people say Cal and Rose didn't. But the fact that they both knew exactly that the necklace meant "heart of the ocean" shows that they could've been more understanding, and alike if they opened up to each other more. People say he also never loved or cared for Rose, but just by the longing stares he gives her especially here when looking at her through the mirror breaks my heart. He really does want her. He doesn't see her as property because if he was so rich and handsome replacing her wouldn't have been hard, and despite the fact she cheated and openly made him look like a fool, yet he continued to chase and try to keep her safe really made Cal deeper than we truly let ourselves see. He loves her, he doesn't know how to show it. And he results to violence which is honestly unacceptable, but he's heartbroken, and distraught over the fact that someone he loves would hurt him willingly like she did. Cal could've escaped early on in a lifeboat but decided to stay to make sure Rose got off the boat first EVEN when he knew she was with Jack now. He was willing to forgive her and overlook everything just to be with her. I believe Cal didn't realize how much he loved her until he lost her, and that's what broke him. Just the fact that he says "there's nothing I deny you, if you do not deny me" pulls at my strings because it proves and shows how badly he just wants her acceptance and affection. And yes Jack is a great person too, but imagine if the roles were switched, and Cal was lower class and Jack was higher class. What makes you think that Jack would be so understanding and innocent. It's the way you're raised and taught to see the world that shapes our beliefs and molds us into the person we are, well in most occasions. If Rose was only more open to Cal he could've improved himself and worked on their relationship to make her happy, because her happiness and appreciation is all he wanted from her, especially in this scene.
My thoughts exactly. I keep thinking that all we see from Cal is his bastard attitude because also James Cameron tends on creating cliché characters but indeed those signs sums it up perfectly. He does try to impress her and win her but his ways are not proper to Rose. However on the other hand she did not make even the slightest attempt to understand him either. On the contrary she kept on pouring oil to the fire and so it was expected Cal would also do the same. He is rude and spoilt and he doesn't respect her yes but he is not total villain either and he genuinely tries to help her. It's not just the diamond. Even the paintings he buys for her. I mean he hates them and yet he buys them for her. He has nothing to gain from that since he openly scours modern art however he still buys her the paintings so she can have a collection. I mean her reaction to that is kinda ungrateful. She doesn't like him and that's understandable but she keeps pouring oil to the fire and that has a result only her life to be miserable!
LivanaFaolan Me too, I don’t feel sorry that he fell in love with Rose who cheated on him. I don’t fell sorry that he bought her all the arts pieces that he disliked, just to be spitted on his face. I don’t fell sorry that he bought her 16th century diamond that was ones belongs to a king, just to have her naked drawing with a sour notes as a response. I don’t feel sorry that he threw his pride, ego and bagged Rose to open her heart for him, just to have Rose opened her legs for a guy she met 2 nights before. I don’t fell sorry at all. I feel sorry to Rose who is a fiancée to someone but failed to honour her title with misbehaving, being bitter, ungrateful, running around with a stranger, and above all, I fell sorry that Rose didn’t have the audacity to say thank you for all that was given to her, and tell Cal that she doesn’t love him the way he did.
Yes you can tell he's nervous about presenting the diamond to her, and watches very closely to see whether she's pleased. Rushing to confirm it's a 'diamond' like a young man trying to impress the woman he admires.
Billy Zane played this character to a T.....couldn't be more perfect for the role. We hated him for the narcissist he was yet he was intimidating in every scene he was in.
Truth is Jack and Rose would have never worked out...she's a princess who has always had all luxuries available to her and lived a lavish life. Although she had love and passion for Jack...he couldn't ever maintain her standard of life. Love doesn't pay the bills after all...but we all wish it could!
@@Kaboomboo To be fair, we do not know how she lived and who she married afterwards, whether he was a man of means or not. It is very likely that her husband was well off, as she could afford a horse-riding or pilot school as well as posing for all those photographs in the saddle or in the aeroplane.
Even in that time period, not everyone who started in poverty stayed in poverty; in fact, Molly Brown didn’t start off rich, and neither did her husband until her husband struck gold in a mine. If Jack had lived, things could’ve and probably would’ve changed for him and for Rose for the better.
This, and after they were rescued by the Carpathia, he was trying desperately to find her among the third class people, when he saw a red head woman (Not Rose, another woman), he was very concerned and looked like he was about to apologize.
Not the only time. He risked his place on a lifeboat to find Rose, he took the jacket off his own back to keep her warm, he demanded that she get into a lifeboat, and wanted her to be stopped when she (foolishly) jumped back on. Billy Zane put it very well: when he found that portrait, Cal's heart was breaking just as he discovered he had one.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 A possessive person would do anything to keep his/her possessions in good condition, but that doesn't mean that they care for them as people.
What makes Cal interesting as a character, is that he THINKS he loves Rose. In truth he’s been brought up only to value the possession of things and people. He values possessing her a lot, possibly because she doesn’t make it easy for him. He views her coldness as a challenge when it’s actually depression that has nothing to do with being won over. He’s content in the lavish world they live in, where owning things solves all problems. He can’t understand that a necklace, no matter its origin or price, changes nothing.
Cal: "There's nothing I wouldn't deny you." Proceeds to deny her having fun dancing in the lower decks of the ship. "You will never behave like that again, Rose."
Is it me or is the way their conversation set up (talking to their reflections as opposed to turning to face each other) makes it look like Cal is talking to himself as opposed to Rose?
Cal wasn’t the best person, but Rose didn’t stay behind. She was spoiled as seen in the car scene. He was kind of doing them a favor of marrying her as they were broke to maintain their lifestyle and hobbies (paintings). Marriage of convenience on both sides. Anyways… its a movie.
Actually it was Rose's mother who tried to force her to marry Cal for his money, she practically _sold_ her daughter, a 17-year-old minor to a 30-year -old abusive and millionaire man
Cal Hockley was doing both Rose and Ruth a massive favour. Without him, their family faced financial ruin from the late Mr. DeWitt Bukater's atrocious debts. The Hockley family business would have protected both from the consequences of Mr. DeWitt Bukater's irresponsibility. Hockley may even have cleared those debts, had his marriage gone ahead.
The necklace is like a heavy chain/leash around her neck like she’s owned. The cost of the rich life she will have with Cal in sacrifice of her freedom.
I think she threw it in the ocean was not only because it was called the ❤️ of the 🌊 but I think like Cal when he died so did her reason to hold on and value it
Not gonna lie, if it wasnt Cal and that royalty comment, this would be extremely romantic and sweet. Of course you can’t buy people or love , but I think it’s so romantic when men already in relationships gift chocolates or flowers or jewelry to make their girlfriend/wife feel special and beautiful.
I remember how people loved that necklace after seeing the movie and I remember seeing cheap knockoffs in stores but rewatching this scene, I can’t help but think it’s pretty gaudy. I used to love it, though.
I truly didn't watch this movie for the the sake of love. Their emotions, reactions, personality "Rose, Jack, Cal " was just like their little journey on the shining glorious ship through the waving ocean. Short, unstable and sparkling but not real. Who knows if Jack didn't die they would live happily ever after?! It seems so magnificent because it was a dream never come true
“There’s nothing I couldn’t deny you if you don’t deny me. Open your heart to me, Rose.” I really don’t know why, but that line feels a little sinister in hindsight. 😰
**People buying expensive gifts such as cars, phones, playstations, homes etc for their loved ones** Everyone: OMG so emotional 😭😭 **A man buys an expensive jewel for his beloved fiance** Everyone: He doesn't love her. He's just trying to impress her with money 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I thought Billy Zane was just perfection in this role. He was very handsome, very sure of himself and Rose made him act in ways that maybe he wouldn't have acted. She pissed him off because he couldn't get her like he had gotten everything else. She is was an OK guy as long as he was able to control his world. He only turned into a terrible person when he didn't get what he wanted. But that is the case with every single person in the world when they don't get what they want in some way. It may be a small reaction or it may be a terrible reaction. Why do you think there are so many divorces? Because someone want their own way and they think their way is the best way.
This type of romance between Rose and Jack don’t work in the real life. Money does not buy happiness but it sure makes it easier. When you marry you suppose to listen to your heart yes but also your head! Love doesn’t buy food, clothing or property!
Thefamousgreen Very true. I think their relationship was based on Disney world fairly tale on a perfect setting like a cruise when your away from reality. When reality sets in what you said would happen
Well, I think it may be for a reason that they don't actually get a chance to have a proper relationship in the film. Probably, the best that Jack could have given her is what he did give - freedom from the trap she was in when they met. It would have hardly worked out in the long term if they had both survived the shipwreck, given all the differences they had.
You do realize he tried to frame his rival for robbery and had him tortured by Lovejoy and locked up to die. When that didn't work, he tried to kill Jack and Rose. There's no justification for any of that. Cal was a villain.
Love does not pay the bills. Choose a man wisely. There aren’t many couple could survive financial difficulty and ended up split of divorce. Love is important, but reality is what should be concern.
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Jack never told Rose he loved her. He showed her his love. Actions speak louder than words......
Wow this is a strong message graaaape 🍇
Well, he told her that winning the ticket to the ship was the best thing that ever happened to him because it led him to her, all while he was literally freezing to death. That's just a longer (and touching) variation of "I love you". 🤣
@@XanderVJ 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Somebody pls tell me who gifted that necklace to rose is that jack
@Melissa Wolf what
If Jack had lived, Rose would have had him and the diamond. Double win.
But their money would still be wiped out in the wall street crash of 1929
not if she'd waited until after the crash
Anthony Kernich and who would have bought it knowing it’s stolen ?
Jason Big, Black market. Would fetch for a lower price but a hefty one nonetheless
All rose had to do is NOT jump off the lifeboat back onto the Titanic. Had she not jumped back onboard Jack would've found the lounge panel piece, and he would've gotten on it himself and survived.
Cal did not love Rose, he wanted to own Rose. This scene does not show how he loved her, it shows how he dismisses her. Closing the music box she was enjoying and pushing it to the side, laughing condescendingly because she understands French. Money is the only language this man knows; he didn’t buy her the diamond, he bought himself the diamond for it to be presented proudly on his beautiful wife for all to see.
People thing that he loved her because he was willing to spend so much on her. But the thing is, as his wife, he wants her to be gorgeous and dressed and jeweled in a best way money can buy because it shows his status. The fancier the wife, the more important and wealthy her man seems to be. That's the point. Well dressed wives are a status symbol. All the monetary things that he gives her are investment for him.
Stefan Makara /Rosie Marie 🤔😥😒😞 that idea makes me sad
There is no such thing as true love.
@AKIVE yeah, right, sure
@@willg4802 Come on bro don't be an incel
I ve always hated the way he closes the music box. --'
I once read somewhere that the music from the music box represented her innocence and Cal closing it was her innocence being “closed”.
Yes me too! Just another way of controlling her, or what she listens to.
Never noticed it til now lol after all these years
@@prayagrajpandey5493
The music box was playing , by Johann Strauss Jr.
So did I. It was as if he was pushing aside her needs & desires, to impose his own. Thinking that a rare expensive piece of jewelry, would appease her. She wasn't like most other women of the day. Material things weren't impressive to her. But he thought that's what it would take to win her over...
Cal saw Rose as a possession.
Jack saw Rose as a person.
@Steven Winterhill 🤔
Bewitched571 I love this movie. but what did he really know about her. In two days? They were 17 and 20 respectively, and nowadays RED FLAG
@@seanlee6439 Well back then people only lived until like 13 so 17 and 20 are practically your golden years so what the heck right?
Sean Lee Cal was 30 while rose was 17 though. A three year difference isn’t that bad compared to 13
@@seanlee6439 oh shut up, people today have even 50 years age difference so stop talking
Kate is stunning in the film. Absolutely beautiful.
with bewbs
I never liked her
@@sehza-t9d Rose or Kate?
@@sehza-t9d Wait for your disapproval towards her to "matter".
My wife will sometimes come into the room and start a conversation with "I know you've been melancholy". Lol.
A total keeper. 😸😸
haha!
LOL
HAHAHAHA
Perfect way to enter a room. Marry her again.
Cal: "Perhaps it's a reminder of my feelings for you."
Rose: "Is it . . . "
Cal: "Plastic? Yes."
Lol @Nicholas Lawrence
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i laugh so hard.
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Im glad she fell in love with Jack. Money doesnt buy genuine love.
I agree. Jack loves her for who she is inside and out. Cal was a jerk to her.
But it buys you a real comfortable bed to cry in and a good bottle of wine to cry with loo
And having no money doesn't give a person time to think about love.
But if youre playing a role in society as opposed to living YOUR life... moneyand diamonds can greatly empower you and your status(which is what you predicate yourself on)
Today in 2020 yes
1:18 at that moment the diamond necklace felt like a leash. Great acting there by Kate Winslet
Exactly!
However remember that is just how the script was written. If Cal had given it to another woman, who actually loved him she would have cherished it.
"Open your heart for me, Rose." Love that sentence. His character isn't popular, but makes him a good actor.
Cal was trying to build a connection with her.
everyone has there opinion on this, and here's mine: people say rose cheated on cal, lied to cal, and used cal-and that is partially true. people also say cal truly loved her-and perhaps that's true as well. what I see is to show his "affection" for her, cal buys rose a huge diamond necklace and tells her she can have whatever monetary thing she wants in life. Jack shows his affection for her by saving her life, then treating her not as an inferior because she is a woman or a princess, just because she is first class and he is not, but as an equal who has opinions and deserves to voice those opinions and live like she wants. he doesn't force her into anything, he gives her an option. and when she decides that she wants him, he honors her far more than cal ever did. in the end he was going to sacrifice himself for her sake. if that's not love, I don't know what is.
I think you are right, but I also think it was a foolish, immature decision for Rose. As a person of great inherited wealth, I can tell you that people like us are confronted with these kinds of circumstances throughout our formative years. If Rose had told Jack to go pound sand, she still would have lived, and so would Cal. Then, she would have lived a great life of wealth and comfort. The financial destruction and subsequent suicide of Cal was just thrown in for convenience. Suppose she had chosen Jack, and Jack had somehow lived. They probably would have had little to no financial means, and she would have become an unhappy, battered and abused wife with few means of assistance.
Cadet Arthur If Rose was my wife I would make her work for me while I get drunk. If she doesn't bring rent money I'll lock the door and mail Cal that I've been boning his ex and tell her where she. Then I'll hire goons to kill Cal and skin him then use his skin to pretend to be him. I'll take the money he has and run for president so hillary nor trump win in 2016.
He was only saying that out of malice for Jack and to piss off Rose. Before she started running off with Jack, Cal never did anything malicious or spiteful to her, but she goes and sleeps with Jack and leaves a nude drawing with a bitchy note.
His problem is: he is gay.
It's because Jack is more down to earth and captures her attention more. She craves new experiences than the one she is used to. With Cal, it's always the same thing. I think she's jaded by her lifestyle: all the materialism, and haughtiness of the first class lifestyle. Let's not forget that Rose is actually 17. She hasn't lived her life yet. In some ways she's a woman but also a young girl who is challenging, rebellious and having an existential crisis. I think Cal and Jack both valued Rose, but with Cal being unreciprocated love. She has no say in the affair since her mother set her up with him. She's just a young girl. It's no surprise that she will shake up and rebel to propriety.
He looks like Demetri from Anastasia here!! I can't help but notice everytime I watch this scene now!! Omg!
And she looks like anastacia
Yasss
The world in focus more like Brendon Urie. My opinion that is
Same hair cut 😂 it was fashionable back then
@@luzpueblalara4128 oh please do tell what's the name of that haircut I so love it on men
It’s amazing how much Kate winslet looks like she’s from those time her features her pale white skin! Didn’t need heavy makeup
She fits perfectly. You can just imagine her in an old black and white photo
She stays very true to herself as a person in everything she does including appearance. In her newest adventure Mare of EastTown, they tried to touch up the poster they put out advertising the show. Kate saw it and said no no no. I know where all of my crows feet are I know where my wrinkles are. Put them back please. 🤩🤗. We Stan a Queen that loves herself inside and out!
I agree. Kate's skin complexion is absolutely marvellous in this movie. Really pale and fair. Like an Elven woman. Add the red curly hair and blue sapphire eyes and she looks even better. No wonder people had such a crush on her.
Pale white skin is only in the early 20 century, yes. Jerk.
@@deletedaccount1990 She honestly looks like one of those reinassance paintings especially in this scene
The contrast between Cal and Jack in how they treat Rose is so stark. Not just in explicit moments like Cal yelling at and slapping Rose vs. Jack saving and devoting himself to Rose, but also in more subtle moments like this. Cal doesn’t even try to understand why Rose was feeling down. He just starts showering her with jewels to make her swoon and focus on him and what he could offer her. Jack does the total opposite. He makes it clear that he doesn’t think Rose’s wealth should make her immune to negative feelings. He asks what happened and why she felt down, and even asks if she loves the man she’s about to spend a lifetime with. He CARES about her feelings, and respects them, and wants to understand. Even though he doesn’t get the upper-class life because he’s never had money, he still wants to understand her, and actively makes efforts to do so. Jack gives Rose a far greater gift than a diamond could ever be: the gift of someone who listens and cares.
I absolutely love Billy Zane's performance in this movie, he could have been a great Lex Luthor.
He should of played Lex Luther in Lois and Clark. He's also the same age as Dean Cain.
Yeah but then again Billy Zane would have to lose the hair
@@justingarcia6848 it's actually a wig Zane is indeed bald LOL
@@UTock Zane is bald NOW, but that was his natural hair back then
If only they did this for Batman V Superman
If you think Cal loved Rose you need to watch that breakfast scene again. Rose was just property to Cal. Much in the ways of a misogynist.
William S I remember that scene that he said she would honour him as a wife is required to honour a husband. Didn't seem that unreasonable of a demand, given she was dishonoring him, running around with another man, hurting him and embarrassing him. Got nothing to do with her being his property, just common decency and consideration. He had every right to be angry and hurt.
What a nice man sending a guy to spy on his fiance, that's a relationship build on trust lol. No, he treated her like property. He didn't pay much attention to what she likes - dinner scene when orders a lamb for them both. He expected her to be like every rich girl he knows, easily bought with money and lavish gifts and probably only wanted her because of a good name and beauty. Also, she was only dancing then. In the third class' part of a ship, if not for a Lovejoy spying no one would have known she was there. He could have been angry, cause she didn't tell him, bt he had no right to throw a tantrum, threaten her and flip the table.
gwirith14 It's likeliest Cal and Ruth noticed Rose missing and asked Lovejoy to look for her. Not spying. If I went on a dance date with a man other than my fiance, especially without his knowledge, I would be dishonouring him. Rose would be ruined for even being seen with Jack unattended by a chaperone. How was Cal supposed to get through to her when her response was pretty much just deal with it? She should've apologised for going downstairs with Jack not treated Cal like he should just accept his fiancee cuckolding him and ruining herself. Anyone would flip out at that level of callousness and impropriety. He wouldn't truly love her if he put up with that either. By the way, the man ordering the woman's food is an old etiquette rule. It has everything to do with the fact that he's paid for it. Unless she's ungrateful, which Rose is, she wouldn't almost roll her eyes at him ordering her something as expensive as lamb. Oh no, how dare he order, the great Rose, lamb! My fiance decides what I should have, because he's paying for it. That's fair and I prefer it that way. It takes the pressure off the woman, who if polite, would order the cheapest option, and lets him lead and treat her. When someone gives you a gift, you don't turn your nose up at it because it wasn't what you would've picked, unless you're nasty like Rose. Rose had it better than most people and whined about it. Cal is a monster, because the politically correct audience can't imagine that a woman could wrong a man, because even the movie paints her as a victim when she's not. The man is a monster for reacting to being wronged and hurt beyond measure. He probably shouldn't have slapped her, but she was so damned callous towards him that it would be hard for one to hold back.
Also where he only offered $20 to Jack for saving her life
But has she got any guarantee Jack would be different? (plus he's poor af)
Yes, I never noticed it before, but him closing the music box was very symbolic!
It's hard to believe Billy Zane went from playing Biff Tannen's lackey in Back to the Future to Cal in Titanic. He's a VERY good actor!
He also acted in season 2 of Twin Peaks. He's a very versatile actor indeed.
Hey Dawson! Anybody home? I thought I told you not to ever come on this ship!
We can do this the easy way or the hard way
Thanks! I never knew that! I had to go back to watch that scene.
I totally forgot that he was in that movie
“I know you’ve been melancholy” gets me every time
It astonishes me that everyone forget how much a jerk Cal was... just because of this one scene he says kind words and gets her a gift and in some how people are saying "oh maybe he did care for Rose" or "he's actually a good man"... No. And the sad thing is there are jerks like this in real life when they pull the same stick that Cal pulled here and they're forgiven because they seem like they meant it. And I feel sorry for those who actually fell for Cal and believed him in this scene because some where along the line... they'll run into a "Cal" and fall for their false promises. But mark my words even if she had chosen him; she would have suffered the same hell she did before... maybe far worse. I can assure you of that, believe me I know.
xxminixkittyxx exactly.
Nobody is denying that Cal was a jerk. But Rose did treat him incredibly poorly, even when he's being good to her and her family. Not trying to play devil's advocate here, but Rose did blatantly cheat on him.
he tried to control rose way too much. he tried to throw a bunch of gifts at her but at the end of the day that's not what a woman wants. she wants a man who sincerely loves her and supports her everyday. but that's a lot harder to do then putting a fat rock on their hand. men can keep the rock (aka diamond)
Don't forget Cal came to Rose defense after she thought she was being raped by Jack, he didn't know she tried to kill herself, but he confronted Jack in her honor lol
@@matthewvelez5531 doesnt matter. He was still a jerk.
"It's overwhelming." Amazing line.
I researched the Heart of the Ocean, and it was a black diamond, even though most people thought it was a sapphire, just because of the deep blue shade. It was beautiful
Bro it was tanzanite
Kate Winslet was stunningly beautiful in this movie, and The Holiday! 😘💞💕
Cal showed his affection to Rose in the one sure way he knew how. For him, money talks and he was trying to say a mouthful to her. This was his life and how his family likely showed how they cared for each other. I wouldn't say he was trying to bribe her. He just doesn't seem to know a better way to convey his feelings.
you didn't see the whole movie did you. a man slapping you on the face for talking back at him, constantly humiliating you and reminding you that you depend on his money, you think that is caring?
he wasn't bribing, he was buying her and her name from her mother. the reason he was marrying her is that her prestigious name would help his business with contacts, and that her noble name would make him more of a ''lord'', that's it. he did not love her one bit, he loved himself and the fact he owned her. at the end of the movie he cared more about the diamond necklace than her life and tried to buy his way to one of the dinghys with it on his pocket which is what mattered to him on that ship
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess to be fair, when he slapped her it was because she had spent the night with another man. For the standards of the time, she had cheated on him. Carl was not a good man, but I dont think he was a bad man. He was a man of his time. Most first class gentlemen were pricks
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincessCal was a very practical ,first class man! He was definitely not a bad guy for Rose to loathe at the sight of him!! Definitely!!!!
@@AnzuBrief Who is Carl?
@@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess What movie did you watch? He never smacked her for talking back, he slapped her for cheating on him. When did he constantly humiliate her? Or remind her that she depended on his money?
And it was very clear that he cared about her, and she didn't care about him. She was the one who acted like a spoiled brat, complaining about the size of the ship, and never being grateful for anything.
And if you remember correctly when the ship was sinking Cal gave up a seat on a lifeboat to go to Rose. And when Rose's Mom was talking about their name being the only card to play she meant their family name and status, he was a Pittsburgh steel tycoon. He didn't need her name.
Every time Rose talks in this scene, Cal either talks over her or interrupts her. Except when she says “it’s overwhelming,” which is also the only thing that sounds like it's complimenting the jewelry. The subtle details are incredible.
The way he carelessly closes the musix box and pushes it aside like it's worthless trash makes me angry. And sad. The actor played his role so well, I hate his character. 😅
The lighting, ambience and just the entire mood of this scene is so regal and out of this world. It looks like a painting brought to life.
Rose wanted to die. Jack wanted to live. Jack died for rose. Rose lived for jack. 🥺🥺🥺
Bruh lmao
So touching.. 😢
So beautiful, wow
❤
you can tell Rose wanted to die whenever she was around Cal. She might not have admitted it but you can tell by how she acts she's just really uncomfortable, but with Jack she is the complete opposite.
She was just being dramatic. she's just choosing to be uncomfortable and is just favoring jack.
Great little scene, Great acting ! You can "feel" what lies just below the surface with each of them.
I know Cal is a jerk but Billy Zane is so gorgeous. He was perfect for this role.
Cal is not a jerk.
@@travisboutilier2220 Always defending Cal, huh? Are you him from some fake account or Lovejoy?
This is the definition of: you can’t buy love
Billy Zane did fantastic in this film.
Yeah and Billy Zane's performance was underrated. Great performance 💎
In any case, he played a very convincing Role.
I’m so sorry for all of you here who say this man LOVED this woman. It means you never truly loved or been loved. Love means sacrifice, trust, care for the other’s wishes and feelings, and Cal lacked all of these. He not only regarded her as a propriety (which was the mindset of that time so he’s not very special), but the reason he really kept looking for her on the ship was that he couldn’t bear the thought of him losing before the poor steerage Jack. It hurt his self-pride. He didn’t go back because he couldn’t stand something bad happening to her. You are so naive. Some people are really terrible yes.
wtf
It should have been fairly obvious when he said,he knew she was troubled and didn't pretend to know why. First off,if he truly loved her,he would have asked what was wrong. Second of all,the fact that he didn't know why,shows how materialistic and shallow he is. He can't imagine being unhappy with all of the money they had.
Jealousy was part of the reason that he went looking for Rose. But the scene where he and Jack watched Rose go down in the lifeboat is self-explanatory; Cal was hurting because he realised-- far too late-- that he did genuinely love Rose.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 No, it's because she was wearing the coat that had the diamond necklace in its pocket.
@@CariPR94 Cal gave her the coat because she was cold. In that moment, he was concerned about her getting off safely. He only expressed regret about losing the coat *after* he had chased Rose and Jack away into the flooding ship and realised that he could not join. Both things are true.
"open your pants to me rose"-Cal😂😂😂
gold diggas
I was gonna post same haha
cal😍😍😍😍😍
David Hayward 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
women wore skirts back then darling. I dont think any wore pants. not even in the lower classes
Mistake #1: He put the diamond in the coat.
Mistake #2: He put the coat on her!
Cal is really bad person, but the way he asks Rose to open her heart to him at 1:12 makes my heart melt 😍😄
Both things can be true.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 didn't deny it 🙂
Good observation
He sure likes when others open their heart (to darkness)
Billy Zane was the voicer of Ansem in Kingdom Hearts xD
That music jewelry box tune is " Tales from the Vienna Woods " by J. Strauss
You have no idea how much I love you I've been looking for this for at least a year
He is the perfect actor to portray Cal 💯
billy zane is an under rated actor.. i still remember him in back to the future
Never appreciated this scene as much as I did watching it in my older age. This was a very pivotal scene to illustrate the kind of heelish antagonist that Hockley was. The way he expressed his intentions and desires for Rose came off very similar to the VVitch’s “Would thou like to live deliciously?” scene where the Devil disguised himself as the black goat and bribed her into giving herself to him in exchange for riches, the taste of butter and a pretty dress. The epitome of evil.
Fun fact: in the French version, he says the name in Latin and she translates it into French
“Why Gaston. You are positively primeval.” --Belle
Gaston (laughing)-Why thank you, Belle!
Sounds like something Cal would say to Rose.🙄
I dont think I'd pick either of them, too much emotional pressure...
I have to go against the flow, and completely agree with you. Cal was definitely bad news, but Jack was, well, sad news. His carefree and impoverished lifestyle had INITIAL appeal to a 17 year old girl raised like a caged princess, but that would have worn off had Rose actually followed him. In the end, she chose a comfortable middle class life with a man who truly loved her, and that is what made the ending of the movie somewhat maddening. She goes to Heaven to meet Jack, and not the poor husband who gave his entire earthly life to her!
yeah jack probably would have ended up a gambling drunk. BUT Jack showed Rose that she could live her life the way she wanted to. She truly loved him because in a way Jack freed her soul. Without him she would have stayed with Cal, which we find out would have ended BADLY.
Jack was always meant to be a fling. Whatever would he have done with Rose after they disembarked? He never inclined that settling down was on his radar. They couldn't afford to ride horses and visit theme parks let alone start a life straight away.
She is looking absolutely stunning here
I love how there are so many debates here about Cal VS. Jack because of this scene. And I guess in the end, it comes down to perspective, but I want to give my own take. Cal almost certainly had 'feelings' for Rose, you can't deny that, otherwise, why would he bother fighting for her when the ship is SINKING if she has nothing to offer him and she's treated him like garbage up until that moment. Even pulling a gun on them and risking his life just to get revenge should make it *pretty* clear that he definitely HAD feelings for her, regardless of how shallow and one sided these feelings were. Now, in the case of this movie and the argument between Jack and Cal; the reason why Cal STILL isn't an actual "valid choice" for Rose is simply because of who Rose is. You can criticize her immature handling of the situation when she back talked him, disobeyed him and even cheated, but it's made very clear from the start that she doesn't actually love Cal. People seem to forget that this movie was based during a time when arranged marriages were very, VERY common. Her relationship with Cal was not consensual. It was one way. And she was not happy. You take Jack OUT of the equation and this movie would've ENDED with her jumping off the boat. The events that follow with her "deciding between Jack and Cal" are only there to hide that fact that she cares about Jack. She's not ACTUALLY deciding if she should go BACK to Cal. Not after she finally got a backbone. On the surface, she says she "loves Cal" and because she's engaged, it's impossible for Jack and Rose to continue, but again, she never *wanted* to marry Cal in the first place; remember the scene where Rose's mother BEGS her to marry Cal because they are all out of money? The ONLY possible outcome I see where Rose ends up with Cal is if Jack and Rose COULDN'T escape from them once they were found out, and she was then forced to say "I do" or else they would off Jack. And that's the point. One seemingly "nice" scene from Cal can't negate everything else that's been built up in the movie. Rose's mother is manipulative and controlling and Cal is very traditionalist (in all the WRONG ways), shallow and abusive when he doesn't get his way. Cal only gave her the heart of the ocean because he has generic 'feelings' for her, most likely that of physical attraction and so he's trying to BUY her love, but Rose knows that Jack's feelings for her run far deeper. The connection they've made in such a short period of time is impalpable. So, the only conflict going on at this point is Rose deciding FOR HERSELF, for the first time, if she actually loves this guy who just randomly showed up in her life. And she does. She picks Jack. Other than that "forced marriage or *death* idea," I honestly don't think there's any other "possible outcome" here. [Well, except the possibility that her *AND* Jack get to live happily ever after if she just shared the f@$%ing door!!!] Anyways, ignoring the money aspect, and just looking at the two characters as they are: Cal is very dense, selfish and too focused on the mundane aspects of life, like the gentleman's club and politics for someone like Rose to have deep feelings for him. Bottom line, Rose just isn't compatible with him. "She feels like she's in a crowded room, SCREAMING at the top of her lungs and no one is listening!" Jack, on the other hand, LISTENED. He doesn't care about the "class" difference between them. He's very wholesome, compassionate and he gave Rose something irreplaceable that she kept throughout the rest of her life: a reason to live her life to the fullest. The time they spent together and the last promise she made to him were enough to shape everything that she did from April 15th 1912 forward. The last scene literally explains this with the pictures taken throughout the rest of her life. You personally can think that Cal might've had some heart underneath all the abuse, but you can't deny that Rose would NEVER, *EVER* end up with him. It's just not who she is.
Actually, they did film a scene early on where Rose goes back to her room, feels completely trapped & overwhelmed by it all & begins stabbing herself hysterically with a shrimp fork or something like that. As she's freaking out...she gets up runs from the room & then out to the boat deck crying which is where the scene picks up that WE see in the movie where she's in the black lace overlay dress heading to the back of the ship to off herself by jumping.
Cameron deleted the fork stabbing scene in the final cut as it didn't flow well with the rest & wasn't needed as much as the 'hanging off ready to jump' scene did on it's own.
Why did I read this haha, this is all so very true but I still feel cal got walked all over he really wants rose in a lot of ways but she was cold ever since jack came it fuled cals anger. I say if she just tried to like cal things wouldn't have been so distant. I do think that as this was the way the world was back then I'm sure she would have accepted and moved on she would never have jumped either way. And cal too cal should have been more lieniant with rose considering they weren't even married he should have been a more understanding person instead of buying her affection. They both could have done things differently to make it work I truly believe it would have.
I stopped reading the moment you said 'back talked' and 'disobeyed' what is she? His child? A wife is not meant to obey her husband, children are meant to obey their parents. That's exactly why Cal was an ass, coz he also thought he should be obeyed. Slaves obey masters, not wives. Geez.
@@Tommy_111 Uhh yes they are. Especially back then. But okay, let's just reverse the genders then, shall we? How should a woman react if her husband to be was out getting drunk and dancing with strange women and she tells him not to do it again? What if they gave the same response Rose gave to Cal? "I'm not your child that you can command, I'm your fiancé." Is the woman just supposed to sit there and take that crap? Especially if she is the one supporting them? You would immediately scream "dump his ass! He has no respect for you!" He wasn't commanding her, he was telling her she can't behave that way if they're going to be wed.
Spouses should obey each other. Relationships don't work or aren't healthy if one doesn't listen to the other or if it's just one calling the shots. Cal wasn't calling all of the shots with Rose. She had a lot of freedoms for a teenager. She wasn't followed at all times, she had access to the money since she could get into Cal's safe, and I think she even had her own room on the ship.
@@Kaboomboo No, if you "flip the genders," the analogy would be a 30 year old woman PURCHASING a barely legal mail-order husband who has no options or real ability to say "no" to her, who then goes out dancing with other women when he discovers love for the first time. If she got angry, everyone would roll their eyes at her and say, "yeah, ya think?" Edited to add: ... and she doesn't even slap her mail-order fiance very often. That's how you know she cares. /s
0:15 I thought the music box was composed music added in the film. Just now I see that it was in the actual scene and that Cal closed the box. This tiny move means so much…
sorry but it has to be said... people wold go for cal? you'd go with a person that flipped the table saying" my wife in practice if not yet by law so u will honour me" over jack who said "Promise me you’ll survive. That you won’t give up, no matter what happens. No matter how hopeless." PEOPLE WOULD GO FOR CAL? y'all crazy
ik its just a movie
Keep this in mind and engaged woman really is *a wife and practice* I found that out when on my engagement at that point she was in love with jack and technically there's emotional cheating and there is physically cheating she was on her way to physically cheating she was emotionally cheating technically so you can't really blame Cal for being angry when she is at that point in time a women belonging to another man running around with some guy of lower status and humiliating her fiance women
were property
Here is what I don't understand: why women like abusive spouses. If that's what people are fantasizing about in this comment section. Other than that, I would go for his looks only. That's the only decent thing about him, the money I could care less about.
Cal's good to be a Golddigger with. I mean he's not bad looking and rich. If you seek that road look for a guy like him. A guy wanting a quick bride to get his inheritance then divorce and take half his stuff.
@@Vixen743 Back then engagements were far more important than they are today. Because many marriages were arranged and the partners never knew each other, the engagement was technically their first contact and co-living and was also the chance for the families to discuss the economical exchanges and plans and everything so yeah nowadays it is important but at the same time customary and many people don't even do engagements anymore (I mean they are not obligatory). Back then they were really important.
You forgot the fact that he slapped her.
My friend thought she had the heart of the ocean. Literally. She thought Rose and Jack were real and that her great grandmother had given her the real necklace. I told her if the movie WAS real it would be at the bottom of the ocean. She said no. They found it. Her great grandmother bought it from a museum. Probably a gift shop but she wouldn't listen to anyone! 😂😂
lol.
Whoa. Your friend has some serious delusions. Then again - there actually was a "J. Dawson" on the Titanic - a Joseph Dawson, who was one of the coal stokers. He was buried in the Titanic cemetery in Halifax, and after the movie's release his grave was inundated with hordes of weeping teenage girls who refused to believe that "Jack Dawson" was fictional and that the "J. Dawson' gravestone wasn't actually the resting place of Leonardo di Caprio. People are weird. What can you do?
Aww
Imagine such a man giving you a gift like that
It’s not the gift; it’s the intention behind it. I’ve dealt with people like Cal, and if there’s no genuine love behind the giving of a gift then that gift means nothing to me. I don’t care how much money a man like Cal may spend on me. The size of his wallet means nothing if his heart is too small.
I was about to marry a Cal. I don't have to imagine. It's not as great as you may think it is.
"It's overwhelming", says Rose. She doesn't want that aristocratic world. Rose changes her last name (status) and chooses to be an actress. It is to see her in her charming middle-class home, filled with theater posters and objects from her exotic travels. A life that was entertaining, happy.
Did Rose and Cal ever have sex? In some scenes it points a little to yes and in other scenes its more like no. So I'm confused. Also was Jack supposed to have been a virgin before he met Rose?
It is not overwhelming, she's just dramatic. she should want the aristocratic world, it's very luxurious. she shouldn't have done those things.
@@travisboutilier2220 aristocratic world is boring af
@@beneddiected No it isn't, it's luxurious.
In the extended scene, Rose says the diamond felt heavy and uncomfortable and I think that’s how she saw the upper class: restrained and dispassionate.
This diamond is blue. It’s not a love heart, it’s a cold one.
💙the heart of the ocean
Planeta copiilor creativi CREATIKITERRA yes a love a amazing parejaaaaaa
What does Meloncoly mean
Shut up
Isabella Murray it means sad but in this case Cal’s just being fajev
Exactly! I have that necklace, but it's a little smaller than I thought. It was from Neoglory that sold it on Amazon's website.
I always wonder how cal put that necklace on so fast
He didn't fasten it. He placed it on her neck and the large diamonds had enough friction to prevent it from slipping off.
I always thought the same
Hey probably practiced on Lovejoy 😂
@@patrickquinn6516 Deceased!!😃😃🤣🤣🤣😂😆😆😆
@@patrickquinn6516 ew
Rose: *Good gracious*
Cal: *Perhaps it's a reminder of my feelings for you*
Rose: *Is it a..*
Cal: *Diamond? Yes. Fifteen carats to be exact. It was worn by Louis the 16th, and they called it the Heart of the Ocean*
Taylor Perry fifty six
Yes, cal loved rose but notice that she was never happy with him. Jack made her happy with who she was. I've seen this many times and everyone has there own opinion. So this is mine💙
I agree.
He didn't love her!He didn't see her as a person, for god sake! Watch the movie again, see how patronizing, how condescendent he treated her! As if she were a child!Do you really think this is love?
@@tatianagoncalves944 umm Jack did love rose.. rewatch the movie friend..
Cal didn’t love her. She was a possession to him. Nothing more.
Just ordered and reveived my recreation of this necklace today. Love it.
TheMoonlightPixie where did you ordered it?🤩
In this particular scene I felt deeply for Cal. I can tell he's trying, that he wants her to accept him and want him back. People may argue that he's trying to win her over with gifts and money, but what makes Cal all the more interesting and misunderstood is that money is all he ever knew. He was brought up that way. You notice just by the way he looks at her, that he just wants her to want him back. He's trying to impress her, and yes he's arrogant but as far as I've already mentioned he was brought up that way. The excitement just to put that necklace around her, her surprise and fascination to the gift makes him happy, because all he wants to do is impress her, as I've said. Jack and Rose had a common interest in art, and people say Cal and Rose didn't. But the fact that they both knew exactly that the necklace meant "heart of the ocean" shows that they could've been more understanding, and alike if they opened up to each other more. People say he also never loved or cared for Rose, but just by the longing stares he gives her especially here when looking at her through the mirror breaks my heart. He really does want her. He doesn't see her as property because if he was so rich and handsome replacing her wouldn't have been hard, and despite the fact she cheated and openly made him look like a fool, yet he continued to chase and try to keep her safe really made Cal deeper than we truly let ourselves see. He loves her, he doesn't know how to show it. And he results to violence which is honestly unacceptable, but he's heartbroken, and distraught over the fact that someone he loves would hurt him willingly like she did. Cal could've escaped early on in a lifeboat but decided to stay to make sure Rose got off the boat first EVEN when he knew she was with Jack now. He was willing to forgive her and overlook everything just to be with her. I believe Cal didn't realize how much he loved her until he lost her, and that's what broke him. Just the fact that he says "there's nothing I deny you, if you do not deny me" pulls at my strings because it proves and shows how badly he just wants her acceptance and affection. And yes Jack is a great person too, but imagine if the roles were switched, and Cal was lower class and Jack was higher class. What makes you think that Jack would be so understanding and innocent. It's the way you're raised and taught to see the world that shapes our beliefs and molds us into the person we are, well in most occasions. If Rose was only more open to Cal he could've improved himself and worked on their relationship to make her happy, because her happiness and appreciation is all he wanted from her, especially in this scene.
Love this comment so much. This sums up everything I feel about this.
My thoughts exactly. I keep thinking that all we see from Cal is his bastard attitude because also James Cameron tends on creating cliché characters but indeed those signs sums it up perfectly. He does try to impress her and win her but his ways are not proper to Rose. However on the other hand she did not make even the slightest attempt to understand him either. On the contrary she kept on pouring oil to the fire and so it was expected Cal would also do the same. He is rude and spoilt and he doesn't respect her yes but he is not total villain either and he genuinely tries to help her. It's not just the diamond. Even the paintings he buys for her. I mean he hates them and yet he buys them for her. He has nothing to gain from that since he openly scours modern art however he still buys her the paintings so she can have a collection. I mean her reaction to that is kinda ungrateful. She doesn't like him and that's understandable but she keeps pouring oil to the fire and that has a result only her life to be miserable!
I don't feel sorry for him one bit. He's an abusive, snobbish control freak.
LivanaFaolan Me too, I don’t feel sorry that he fell in love with Rose who cheated on him. I don’t fell sorry that he bought her all the arts pieces that he disliked, just to be spitted on his face. I don’t fell sorry that he bought her 16th century diamond that was ones belongs to a king, just to have her naked drawing with a sour notes as a response. I don’t feel sorry that he threw his pride, ego and bagged Rose to open her heart for him, just to have Rose opened her legs for a guy she met 2 nights before. I don’t fell sorry at all.
I feel sorry to Rose who is a fiancée to someone but failed to honour her title with misbehaving, being bitter, ungrateful, running around with a stranger, and above all, I fell sorry that Rose didn’t have the audacity to say thank you for all that was given to her, and tell Cal that she doesn’t love him the way he did.
Yes you can tell he's nervous about presenting the diamond to her, and watches very closely to see whether she's pleased. Rushing to confirm it's a 'diamond' like a young man trying to impress the woman he admires.
Poor Rose, she must have felt so trapped. Jack at one point helped her find out who she really was.
He was trying to buy her wifeship with a diamond and soft words. That is not caring for someone, thats treating them as a game you can win.
Surely one of the best looking couples in cinematic history?
Billy Zane played this character to a T.....couldn't be more perfect for the role. We hated him for the narcissist he was yet he was intimidating in every scene he was in.
Cal: "Perhaps it's a reminder of my feelings for you."
Rose: "Is it . . . "
Cal: "a wig? Yes."
Rose is so pretty
Truth is Jack and Rose would have never worked out...she's a princess who has always had all luxuries available to her and lived a lavish life. Although she had love and passion for Jack...he couldn't ever maintain her standard of life. Love doesn't pay the bills after all...but we all wish it could!
I mean she seemed to do okay for herself after Jack died and never saw Cal again.
@@Kaboomboo Literally not to mention she was alone. With Jack there'd be two people working.
@@Kaboomboo To be fair, we do not know how she lived and who she married afterwards, whether he was a man of means or not. It is very likely that her husband was well off, as she could afford a horse-riding or pilot school as well as posing for all those photographs in the saddle or in the aeroplane.
Even in that time period, not everyone who started in poverty stayed in poverty; in fact, Molly Brown didn’t start off rich, and neither did her husband until her husband struck gold in a mine. If Jack had lived, things could’ve and probably would’ve changed for him and for Rose for the better.
"I gave you a diamond. Now love me."
These are the same speeches that I do in the mirror when I wear the new Ralph Lauren shirt.
This is the only time in the entire film that Cal shows any kind of human quality, any love towards Rose.
This, and after they were rescued by the Carpathia, he was trying desperately to find her among the third class people, when he saw a red head woman (Not Rose, another woman), he was very concerned and looked like he was about to apologize.
Not the only time. He risked his place on a lifeboat to find Rose, he took the jacket off his own back to keep her warm, he demanded that she get into a lifeboat, and wanted her to be stopped when she (foolishly) jumped back on. Billy Zane put it very well: when he found that portrait, Cal's heart was breaking just as he discovered he had one.
@@craigarkensaw He was looking for the necklace that she had in her pocket.
@@Musicienne-DAB1995 A possessive person would do anything to keep his/her possessions in good condition, but that doesn't mean that they care for them as people.
@@CariPR94 It does, even if their version of care is defective. Possession is not a black and white issue.
Only someone as beautiful as Kate Winslet can wear a hunk of blue plastic and elevate it to look as if it were truly a diamond. She is so gorgeous
I know you've melancholic, and don't pretend to know why...
I intended to save this until the engajment gala next week, but i i thought tonight.
Why is nobody talking about how relaxing this scene is
Tense and relaxing at the same time.
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What makes Cal interesting as a character, is that he THINKS he loves Rose. In truth he’s been brought up only to value the possession of things and people. He values possessing her a lot, possibly because she doesn’t make it easy for him. He views her coldness as a challenge when it’s actually depression that has nothing to do with being won over. He’s content in the lavish world they live in, where owning things solves all problems. He can’t understand that a necklace, no matter its origin or price, changes nothing.
Cal: "There's nothing I wouldn't deny you."
Proceeds to deny her having fun dancing in the lower decks of the ship. "You will never behave like that again, Rose."
And he closes the music box.
@@TrelliessRose Yup! Denies her music too
Except cigarettes, meat other than lamb, dancing, Leonardo DiCaprio...
@@thomasmartin4281 You mean including lol
Rose had run off below deck with Jack.
i've watched this under LSD, i can't transfer how stunning it was
Is it me or is the way their conversation set up (talking to their reflections as opposed to turning to face each other) makes it look like Cal is talking to himself as opposed to Rose?
For Downton Abbey fans here, Rose and Sybil were the same age, both 17 in 1912.
,,Open your heart to me, Rose."
,,Open your heart to *darkness!"*
I'm sorry, I had to. It's a great movie nonetheless.
Thank you for acknowledging the reference.
Go back to the shadows, Ansem!
Hahahahahaha! Well I guess it is like "Come to the dark side, we have diamonds!" then? :P Lol!
Cal wasn’t the best person, but Rose didn’t stay behind. She was spoiled as seen in the car scene. He was kind of doing them a favor of marrying her as they were broke to maintain their lifestyle and hobbies (paintings). Marriage of convenience on both sides.
Anyways… its a movie.
Actually it was Rose's mother who tried to force her to marry Cal for his money, she practically _sold_ her daughter, a 17-year-old minor to a 30-year -old abusive and millionaire man
Cal Hockley was doing both Rose and Ruth a massive favour. Without him, their family faced financial ruin from the late Mr. DeWitt Bukater's atrocious debts. The Hockley family business would have protected both from the consequences of Mr. DeWitt Bukater's irresponsibility. Hockley may even have cleared those debts, had his marriage gone ahead.
The necklace is like a heavy chain/leash around her neck like she’s owned. The cost of the rich life she will have with Cal in sacrifice of her freedom.
No it isn't, it's his engagement gift to her. the rich life is worth sacrificing anything for.
@@travisboutilier2220 something is wrong with you…
@@beneddiectedNothing is wrong with me.
There is no freedom in poverty.
I think she threw it in the ocean was not only because it was called the ❤️ of the 🌊 but I think like Cal when he died so did her reason to hold on and value it
In your description it says leonardo dicaprio and Kate Winslet are back as Jack and Kate.... her name is Rose
I know this is off topic but the necklace is very beautiful who else here agrees? ^^
They really did well in casting Cal. I get the feeling that Zane is a bit like this IRL.
Not gonna lie, if it wasnt Cal and that royalty comment, this would be extremely romantic and sweet. Of course you can’t buy people or love , but I think it’s so romantic when men already in relationships gift chocolates or flowers or jewelry to make their girlfriend/wife feel special and beautiful.
I remember how people loved that necklace after seeing the movie and I remember seeing cheap knockoffs in stores but rewatching this scene, I can’t help but think it’s pretty gaudy. I used to love it, though.
I truly didn't watch this movie for the the sake of love.
Their emotions, reactions, personality "Rose, Jack, Cal " was just like their little journey on the shining glorious ship through the waving ocean.
Short, unstable and sparkling but not real.
Who knows if Jack didn't die they would live happily ever after?!
It seems so magnificent because it was a dream never come true
"It's almost as perfect as,"
"As what?"
"my eyebrows of course, dear"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love this man. He plays the evil one but he is a good guy 😉 Leonardo is in real the bad guy and playes the good one
“There’s nothing I couldn’t deny you if you don’t deny me. Open your heart to me, Rose.”
I really don’t know why, but that line feels a little sinister in hindsight. 😰
She was his "wife in practice" In Cal's words. He dont need to buy her stuff to get her. they were already together..She just didn't like him.
It all makes sense now he always had an obsession with hearts. After losing rose he ended up going after kingdom hearts
**People buying expensive gifts such as cars, phones, playstations, homes etc for their loved ones**
Everyone: OMG so emotional 😭😭
**A man buys an expensive jewel for his beloved fiance**
Everyone: He doesn't love her. He's just trying to impress her with money
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Um, have you actually seen the movie??
@@thesecolorswithin1792 Yes.
@@SillyTubereal So how did you miss that he actually wasn’t loving towards her...
Cal bringing supposedly cursed item on the ship
I thought Billy Zane was just perfection in this role. He was very handsome, very sure of himself and Rose made him act in ways that maybe he wouldn't have acted. She pissed him off because he couldn't get her like he had gotten everything else. She is was an OK guy as long as he was able to control his world. He only turned into a terrible person when he didn't get what he wanted. But that is the case with every single person in the world when they don't get what they want in some way. It may be a small reaction or it may be a terrible reaction. Why do you think there are so many divorces? Because someone want their own way and they think their way is the best way.
And Billy Zane's performance is very underrated!
Anybody know the name of the music playing on Rose's music box? Out of curiosity
This type of romance between Rose and Jack don’t work in the real life. Money does not buy happiness but it sure makes it easier. When you marry you suppose to listen to your heart yes but also your head! Love doesn’t buy food, clothing or property!
Thefamousgreen Very true. I think their relationship was based on Disney world fairly tale on a perfect setting like a cruise when your away from reality. When reality sets in what you said would happen
Well, I think it may be for a reason that they don't actually get a chance to have a proper relationship in the film. Probably, the best that Jack could have given her is what he did give - freedom from the trap she was in when they met. It would have hardly worked out in the long term if they had both survived the shipwreck, given all the differences they had.
The heart of the ocean is worth more than the whole diamond
Actually it's worth more than the Hope Diamond.
Me when I was a kid: Cal is the villain
Me when I grow older: I can understand why he did that.
I guess you were smarter as a kid
@@someoneeee8474 Did what? Give her a gigantic ass diamond? yeah how dare he? lol
@@Kaboomboo A diamond and a slap. Yeah, dream man.
@@Kaboomboo literally snuck the diamond in her coat so she would sink with the ship and die…
You do realize he tried to frame his rival for robbery and had him tortured by Lovejoy and locked up to die. When that didn't work, he tried to kill Jack and Rose. There's no justification for any of that. Cal was a villain.
1:00 David Bowie moment, lord of the Labyrinth
"Just fear me, love me, do as I say, and I will be your slave"
Love does not pay the bills. Choose a man wisely. There aren’t many couple could survive financial difficulty and ended up split of divorce. Love is important, but reality is what should be concern.
She would have realised that after a week on the streets with Jack.
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That's because you don't have a personality and you wouldn't suffer a fake relationship with someone denying your existence every day
@@etrebelle9812 he wasn't that bad omg ,he even loved her
After jack died she became actress and earned herself so even she was with jack she can live happily
I can tell that rose always looked less happier with cal but more happier with jack