This is the plan that got me in to the German line of aircraft. One of my favourite planes ever. Still need to get it in game. I get so easily derailed! But at least I am getting in the early jet age with Germany now.
When you're talking about the possible Me262 models, is it the ones with the higher angle swept wings that were in the planned air tree years ago? I wish those were added too but i think gaijin has already said those are not coming anymore cause they were not made
The HG series, yes. The HG 2 and 3 had more wing sweep, but the HG 1 did not. I know the HG 1 was built and flown, with conflicting reports stating that the HG 2 was built, though likely not flown. Other planes, like the Bf-109Z, were built and not flown, but Gaijin changes their minds on so many things so often. Having the HG 1 in game would make me incredibly happy, with the HG 2 being an incredible bonus.
Packetloss like that happens to me every once in a while but ever since the latest patch it's been happening a TON on the server-side. Especially in tanks where people can't spawn and can't move due to rubber-banding. With Gaijin, the servers are never "fixed".
I bet you'll find this interesting since you're a WW2 buff. Operation Barbarossa was actually compromised by Franz Halder from the beginning because he went against Hitler's directive for the operation. Hitler actually wanted Army Group South to be the main thrust so that it could seize the economic centers of the Soviet Union. And the Soviets had actually anticipated this as well, amassing most of their army in the Southern sectors before and during the invasion. But Halder thought it would be better to basically redo what they did with France and race to the capital city. Hitler didn't find out about it until the operation already commenced and he was furious. Operation Fall Blau was actually a reorganization of Hitler's original initiative, although with much less man and material by that time. I think that realistically had Halder not went against the original plan that there would have been much more success for the Germans because Lend Lease wouldn't have been enough to keep the Soviets running, especially if they had managed to capture the Gronzy and Mykop region, which was vital to Russias fuel production. The Germans could've just focused on holding the South and basically starved the Soviet Union economically. Also, the production of the Tiger and Panther tank was actually hinged on the assumption that they would've captured this region and been able to use the oil from it to fuel the larger tanks.
Very interesting! I appreciate the comment. This is more in depth than many other things I've read about German decision making during the initial invasion of the Soviet Union.
@@Tankenstein check out TIK History here on RUclips. He has tons of really good information about this stuff that not a lot of people cover. I learned all of that from his videos. Specifically what I talked about is in his Fall Blau video.
@@mindfreak078589 I second this recommendation. Absolutely fantastic historian. Somewhat of a controversial one too, because he keeps disproving ideological motivations for random events in ww2 and points out the nazis weren't mustache twirling bumbling villains. They were evil geniuses. It's ironic, that makes them so much more evil but weirdos and tankies are endlessly fuming about it.
Ah yeah but they selectively enforce their 'no paper' BS for 'historic accuracy' while allowing it for certain nation these days, simultaneously nerfing German 15-37mm HVAP from its historic AT role, with the De Marre nerf, amongst other BS moves. WT is so unrealistic it hurts (in RB/AB, they are same to me in many ways), so adding e.g. Panther 2 or some esoteric Japanese plane means nothing. They were plausible in many ways with tech at the time and thus were designed or mostly designed for a reason. edit: inb4 Muh Panther II gun wouldn't fit, yes, but they could easily redesign a turret for that lol.
This is my fav plane in warthunder, so far I'm literally barely getting out of tier 4 Germany and the first jet I'm going to be able to research is this cuz I don't have the he177 or the ta152. I did finish researching the do335 and just need some sl to buy it. Once I buy the do335 and a fw190 D then I'll be able to get it
@J Wilt or learn how to use a SPAA. Seriously have a lot less problems with planes once I learned that and now I'm in the process of learning to fly. Learn. Adapt. Overcome.
@J Wilt yeah I agree. Honestly, if I'm really worried about CAS, (like on a spawn with each team having a close capture point) I just spawn in a SPAA first and get rid of the problem children first. Especially as the Germans I swear every allied player has 2 planes in their line up. But I mean I don't think that solves the fundamental issue that it's usually a pressure valve for revenge kills.
Can you do a video on the A7M2? I believe it's one of the best prop fighters in game rn but I don't sre anyone talking about it. All the videos about it are also years old
How does the point system in the game work? I'm playing Ground Arcade Battles. We had a 7000 point lead and lost. We have 2 cap points and we lose 1 for 1-2 minutes and now we're losing. How does this jeep happening? I'm new, I'm sorry
Also, you are incorrect in saying that this wasn't a stealth fighter, it was an accident yes, but the paint was wood based and actually reduced the radar cross section by a lot, which would have practically made it invisible to allied fighters in WW2
Packet loss always make me crash into the ground and stuff the only way I can counter it is by controlling the the bomber turrets but other than that the ground acts like a magnet
I love hunting these things in my 6.0 corsair, most pilots think just because they're in a jet they'll beat me, well, bud, I used to have to use that corsair at 10.0 because I started the air tech tree late, an early jet is nothing
@@iampurechaos In a corsair I can counter them, even if I'm on the brink of stalling all the time. But I still can do shit if I'm in a p47 or 51, I haven't played those near as much as I have my f4ub, as I basically grinded naval all the way to 6.0 so I had a few planes for my line up, I only caught up recently and am now at 8.3 or 9.7 for aircraft types. And about tho get the last bomber
stuff like is what makes me keep playing but i will say i like the ki 200 better then the german one those Japanese 30mm to me fell like they kit WAY harder then the German 30mms
@@Tankenstein gaijnoob say they don't do paper planes, but hey in March 1945 they said it would be ready to fly in May or June, the company was captured in April. 16 prototypes were made, surely there's enough data to build an accurate flight model. Especially since the Mig15 is already in WT. and it's basically the same plane.
The spars might have been, no idea, but the wings and fuselage are at the Udvar Hazy Center outpost of the air and space museum, I've seen them several times and it looks like it's made of metal. The paint is in a bad state sadly, it's next on the list for restoration when they finish the B-26 they're working on. They also have a do-335, the nazi jet bomber, and a bunch more. They even have the only surviving piece of the Kikka. Oh, plus they have the space shuttle and the Enola gay. It's gotta be the best air museum out there.
All the wonder weapons in the world cant save a country fighting a war on 3 separate fronts at one time. Maybe if they wouldve actually focused most or all of their resources taking over one nation at a time and bolstered their allies weaponry as well as their own weapons and focused more on things such as their proven platforms instead of dumping resources into wonder weapons to try to rescue themselves from a massive multifront war things wouldve went differently for Germany but they weren't focused and thought they were unstoppable. Over extended and streched thin they had no hope of winning the war especially when one of their allies abandoned them and their other was half way across the world and facing their own issues during the mid to late war
you mean wenn Gaijan adda paper plane this palne never flown 15:00 ready for the bettel of britten ready? also it was not steahl, lazerpig did a great video about it. pls do some resreach before video like this.
About what ifs yes their are really dumb ones and yes Germany would have had a hard time getting a total victory in WW2 even with one thing changed. But the things to remember is Gemrany lost mostly do to making a ton of mistakes and going starting WW2 to quickly... However their bigest mistake was decaling war on absolutely everybody namely the US and Soveit Union... As remember they almost beat the UK if it was not for the hard headedness of Churchill(That could easly not have been.) And the Soviets for Hitler not declaring war on the US... As I don't think the Commonwealth could have D-dayed all by themshelves and the Soviets were falling apart even with lendlease... Also rember they could have had nukes if they acaully tried but Nukes back then were not he dooms day weapons of today in fact Tokyo looked as bad as Hyroshima on the same day after it was nuked...
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I just got this and don't care if its not meta anymore. One of the few planes I have always wanted.
Same.
It’s terrible
It’s trash
If you play on pc, try out the skins, there's s I me that make it an invisible stealth fighter(only viewable to yourself of course)
Don't listen to the other peoples. this plane is great, I killed the entire enemy team with it. you need to know how to play it.
Planes like this are what keep me playing, it's not a perfect plane, you cant just no skill dunk on people.
But damn is it fun to fly.
I wish they’d add more of these Prototype, and even paper planes to the game, those late war designs were just so cool
Agreed as long as the paper planes could actually work such as the me262hg3 and nothing like the ufo thing
This is the plan that got me in to the German line of aircraft. One of my favourite planes ever. Still need to get it in game. I get so easily derailed! But at least I am getting in the early jet age with Germany now.
When you're talking about the possible Me262 models, is it the ones with the higher angle swept wings that were in the planned air tree years ago? I wish those were added too but i think gaijin has already said those are not coming anymore cause they were not made
The HG series, yes. The HG 2 and 3 had more wing sweep, but the HG 1 did not. I know the HG 1 was built and flown, with conflicting reports stating that the HG 2 was built, though likely not flown. Other planes, like the Bf-109Z, were built and not flown, but Gaijin changes their minds on so many things so often. Having the HG 1 in game would make me incredibly happy, with the HG 2 being an incredible bonus.
Gaijin won't make them until they need a new plane to monetize....
If they come they come as premiums probably which sucks. IF
they will do as they did with the Su series. make them the same br, HG I will be tech tree, HG II will be premium
@@Suo_kongque HG III will be premium you mean. The HG II will be Battle Pass. And the HG I might be an event vehicle.
Packetloss like that happens to me every once in a while but ever since the latest patch it's been happening a TON on the server-side. Especially in tanks where people can't spawn and can't move due to rubber-banding. With Gaijin, the servers are never "fixed".
The BV 155 is interesting as well. But yeah the flying dorito is one of the planes that I really want to get.
I bet you'll find this interesting since you're a WW2 buff.
Operation Barbarossa was actually compromised by Franz Halder from the beginning because he went against Hitler's directive for the operation. Hitler actually wanted Army Group South to be the main thrust so that it could seize the economic centers of the Soviet Union. And the Soviets had actually anticipated this as well, amassing most of their army in the Southern sectors before and during the invasion. But Halder thought it would be better to basically redo what they did with France and race to the capital city.
Hitler didn't find out about it until the operation already commenced and he was furious. Operation Fall Blau was actually a reorganization of Hitler's original initiative, although with much less man and material by that time. I think that realistically had Halder not went against the original plan that there would have been much more success for the Germans because Lend Lease wouldn't have been enough to keep the Soviets running, especially if they had managed to capture the Gronzy and Mykop region, which was vital to Russias fuel production. The Germans could've just focused on holding the South and basically starved the Soviet Union economically.
Also, the production of the Tiger and Panther tank was actually hinged on the assumption that they would've captured this region and been able to use the oil from it to fuel the larger tanks.
Very interesting! I appreciate the comment. This is more in depth than many other things I've read about German decision making during the initial invasion of the Soviet Union.
@@Tankenstein check out TIK History here on RUclips. He has tons of really good information about this stuff that not a lot of people cover. I learned all of that from his videos.
Specifically what I talked about is in his Fall Blau video.
@@mindfreak078589 I second this recommendation. Absolutely fantastic historian. Somewhat of a controversial one too, because he keeps disproving ideological motivations for random events in ww2 and points out the nazis weren't mustache twirling bumbling villains. They were evil geniuses. It's ironic, that makes them so much more evil but weirdos and tankies are endlessly fuming about it.
This plane with its elevator control has saved me from slamming into the ground so many times
A 109 Erich Hartmann premium would make my day
Ah yeah but they selectively enforce their 'no paper' BS for 'historic accuracy' while allowing it for certain nation these days, simultaneously nerfing German 15-37mm HVAP from its historic AT role, with the De Marre nerf, amongst other BS moves.
WT is so unrealistic it hurts (in RB/AB, they are same to me in many ways), so adding e.g. Panther 2 or some esoteric Japanese plane means nothing. They were plausible in many ways with tech at the time and thus were designed or mostly designed for a reason. edit: inb4 Muh Panther II gun wouldn't fit, yes, but they could easily redesign a turret for that lol.
for balencing so …..
@@IkarusGhostI always buff never nerf
Yeah like how they handle momentum with guns is pretty odd compaired to DCS, Il2, Acecombat, and really most other fight sims/games.
I would have rathered a 262 HG series jet over this but it's still very special to be able to fly it in war thunder
This is my fav plane in warthunder, so far I'm literally barely getting out of tier 4 Germany and the first jet I'm going to be able to research is this cuz I don't have the he177 or the ta152. I did finish researching the do335 and just need some sl to buy it. Once I buy the do335 and a fw190 D then I'll be able to get it
I am just about to get and I just finished rank 4 and got squadron 262
Kinda surprised a plane that looks like this isn't a premium.
That's cause it was added in 2014 when gaijin cared about the game being interesting and fun
Remember when this was a epic ground pounding monster? Anyways do you have the tiny tier 2 German premium scout tank? Used to love that thing.
Those 30mms with AP belts still wreck tanks.
@@ZeSgtSchultz didn't they used to have more AP rounds in them?
@@theredcoat_menace back then it got full HVAP belts, now its AP API AP HEI. And dont forget the auto cannon nerf form 94mm to 77mm
@J Wilt or learn how to use a SPAA.
Seriously have a lot less problems with planes once I learned that and now I'm in the process of learning to fly.
Learn. Adapt. Overcome.
@J Wilt yeah I agree.
Honestly, if I'm really worried about CAS, (like on a spawn with each team having a close capture point) I just spawn in a SPAA first and get rid of the problem children first. Especially as the Germans I swear every allied player has 2 planes in their line up. But I mean I don't think that solves the fundamental issue that it's usually a pressure valve for revenge kills.
Just saw one in sim murdering everything. Sadly I'm not good enough to make it work.
Just got the ho 229 v3. It’s fun but man the yaw is just such a handicap
jesus that aiming
Hi I want help i have mouse on may ps4 ant it always shaking any one now how to fix it
I've had that stutter happen alot tho usually when my internet is acting up
Can you do a video on the A7M2? I believe it's one of the best prop fighters in game rn but I don't sre anyone talking about it. All the videos about it are also years old
That things scary it is in turn fights(even if it is actually inaccurate) it's
Can you do a video on the T69 II G, in the China tree? I'm curious what you think of it's worth getting
How does the point system in the game work? I'm playing Ground Arcade Battles. We had a 7000 point lead and lost. We have 2 cap points and we lose 1 for 1-2 minutes and now we're losing. How does this jeep happening?
I'm new, I'm sorry
Every time I see the Ho 229 head on I can't help but see Mudkip
Also, you are incorrect in saying that this wasn't a stealth fighter, it was an accident yes, but the paint was wood based and actually reduced the radar cross section by a lot, which would have practically made it invisible to allied fighters in WW2
Difference between the US P80 and F80 jets. One has wep, the other doesnt. Thats all i could find. Because I won both in game.
i remember when i first got this plane , i've played a few games with it and it was the worst experience i ever got with a plane
Packet loss always make me crash into the ground and stuff the only way I can counter it is by controlling the the bomber turrets but other than that the ground acts like a magnet
This plane has such an insane turn rate its almost unfair
I only use this thing with the 7.0 line up for Germany ..... Cause that SL cost is 10k I don't spawn it very often
You are right that this plane is in the Smithsonian
honestly we are so lucky they added the ho229 not as a premium back in the day. today it would probably cost 500 dollars or somth
18:47 the guys gamertag is Femboy Dragon lol
They changed the M103k fire rate from 350 to 450
He when the yaw:💀💀💀😡😡😡
As much as I love Tankenstein I just cannot agree that Germany needs more early jets.
Package loss happened to me way to many times
Anyone got any tips for spading this thing? I'm struggling while watching other Hortons massive out speed me
The two planes I want added to germany is the ho 18 and ju 390.
The ai kills don't show up on kills in score card
In my first match with this plane i got 3 kills. I was HYPED that day 🤣😅
Don't forget the ju287
a plane for pirates... now with more yaaaarrr ;)
I love hunting these things in my 6.0 corsair, most pilots think just because they're in a jet they'll beat me, well, bud, I used to have to use that corsair at 10.0 because I started the air tech tree late, an early jet is nothing
inb4 a yak 15p arrives and ruins your day
@@iampurechaos In a corsair I can counter them, even if I'm on the brink of stalling all the time. But I still can do shit if I'm in a p47 or 51, I haven't played those near as much as I have my f4ub, as I basically grinded naval all the way to 6.0 so I had a few planes for my line up, I only caught up recently and am now at 8.3 or 9.7 for aircraft types. And about tho get the last bomber
@@Anarcho-harambeism i think you are delusional,plus you are American
Is good hunting jets until SU-11 dives to take your soul.
Su 11 fucks you up tho
stuff like is what makes me keep playing but i will say i like the ki 200 better then the german one those Japanese 30mm to me fell like they kit WAY harder then the German 30mms
Don‘t turn that quickly with the ho 229, that is how you lose all of your energy and die. Sideclimb and take out the f84s and su-11
Ta-183 confirmed.
Give me the Ta-183, XF-90, Ryan Fireball, BF-109X, Messerspit, and the P-59B, and I'll be a happy man.
@@Tankenstein gaijnoob say they don't do paper planes, but hey in March 1945 they said it would be ready to fly in May or June, the company was captured in April. 16 prototypes were made, surely there's enough data to build an accurate flight model. Especially since the Mig15 is already in WT. and it's basically the same plane.
I wish it had a rudder. That’s all
was the ho229 made of wood?
The spars might have been, no idea, but the wings and fuselage are at the Udvar Hazy Center outpost of the air and space museum, I've seen them several times and it looks like it's made of metal. The paint is in a bad state sadly, it's next on the list for restoration when they finish the B-26 they're working on. They also have a do-335, the nazi jet bomber, and a bunch more. They even have the only surviving piece of the Kikka.
Oh, plus they have the space shuttle and the Enola gay. It's gotta be the best air museum out there.
@@thelordofcringe i went there on my 8th grade field trip i did not appreciate it ass much as i would now a days young and dumb!!
German space magic dorito
All the wonder weapons in the world cant save a country fighting a war on 3 separate fronts at one time. Maybe if they wouldve actually focused most or all of their resources taking over one nation at a time and bolstered their allies weaponry as well as their own weapons and focused more on things such as their proven platforms instead of dumping resources into wonder weapons to try to rescue themselves from a massive multifront war things wouldve went differently for Germany but they weren't focused and thought they were unstoppable. Over extended and streched thin they had no hope of winning the war especially when one of their allies abandoned them and their other was half way across the world and facing their own issues during the mid to late war
why is this plane so agile xD
It's a wing
Dorito*
Flying dorito power
you mean wenn Gaijan adda paper plane this palne never flown
15:00 ready for the bettel of britten ready? also it was not steahl, lazerpig did a great video about it. pls do some resreach before video like this.
It did, in fact, fly. Watching one video and assuming you are an expert?
@@maxmachac9756 exactly
if germany had nostradamus they still would of lost!!..
ofc nostradamus was a straight up liar
@@theoneandonlyartyom lmao
Bug thunder
About what ifs yes their are really dumb ones and yes Germany would have had a hard time getting a total victory in WW2 even with one thing changed. But the things to remember is Gemrany lost mostly do to making a ton of mistakes and going starting WW2 to quickly... However their bigest mistake was decaling war on absolutely everybody namely the US and Soveit Union... As remember they almost beat the UK if it was not for the hard headedness of Churchill(That could easly not have been.) And the Soviets for Hitler not declaring war on the US... As I don't think the Commonwealth could have D-dayed all by themshelves and the Soviets were falling apart even with lendlease... Also rember they could have had nukes if they acaully tried but Nukes back then were not he dooms day weapons of today in fact Tokyo looked as bad as Hyroshima on the same day after it was nuked...