Machining World First Transparent Hydraulic Press Tools
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Welcome to another exciting episode of Beyond the Press, where we take you behind the scenes of creating our unique transparent tools for our 150 ton hydraulic press seen on hydraulic press channel.
In this episode, we dive deep into the process of designing, machining, polishing, and testing our latest creation - transparent tools made from high-quality acrylic. We've invested 3000€ into these plastics to ensure we're working with the best materials possible.
Watch as we transform these raw materials into fully functional, transparent tools through a meticulous process of design and machining. Our workshop is buzzing with the sounds of lathes, milling machines, and polishers, all working in harmony to bring our vision to life.
We'll guide you through every step of the process, from the initial design sketches to the final polishing touches. You'll see firsthand how we maintain the transparency of the acrylic while ensuring the tools are robust and functional.
But we're not just about the process - we're also about the results. That's why we put our transparent tools to the test, demonstrating their effectiveness and durability.
This video is a must-watch for anyone interested in machining, workshop processes, tool creation, or simply enjoys watching a satisfying transformation from raw materials to finished product.
Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe to Beyond the Press for more behind-the-scenes looks at our workshop and the fascinating world of tool creation.
"There is no special trick, just make them... I'm going to leave now"
Timo is my hero.
That is probably the most Finnish thing I've ever heard anyone say. We've got to have that on a shirt.
Where is Annie?
@@Angrymuscles“There is no special trick, just make them.
I’m Finnish so I’m going to leave now.”
@@kennethhurlbutt802 They broke up months ago mate. Several in fact.
love it
I just need to let you know that my entire class of third graders in the U.S. love to watch your videos. Can't wait to show them this on Monday!
From this one they might even learn something :D
How is your class still in school and not on summer break?
@@hellfire66683 Last day of school is Thursday. Lots of snow days this year.
@@Beyondthepress They LOVE your channel. And the added science/engineering learning will be a bonus!
So cool😅
I had small problem with the HPC video so it's going to take couple hours to get new version uploaded. So you have to wait little bit more to see the results :D
You should have made your own acrylic, save $3k and create content while you are at it.
Shit stick! Lmao! I loved this!
@@Chris-rg6nm Yep, spend $10k to make $3k of acrylic, but get a hundred million views
You said something interesting at some point, about other press channels. Let me tell you what makes your one much better than others - you're doing scientific shit, you speak and you make this all fun! No need for other channels for me :)
Wait... There are *other* press channels?? 😂
years ago when this channel first made it's rounds around the web, I had said to myself, "this is a great idea for a channel but I'm sure he will run out of good ideas, and/or things would get repetitive," yet this Guy, Keeps coming up with Golden Ideas to keep things fresh
Did he put you in his press, because you clearly have a crush
@@cannaroe1213🤣
I thought that too, I was sure there was not much possible to do after half a year.
Finishing my day with a long beyond the press video. Couldn't be better.
Beginning my day with a finish press video
Clear press tools are the future!
Lauri, your English vocabulary and pronunciation have improved so much since I started watching HPC a long time ago. To help you continue to improve, your "fancy drill" is called a reamer in English.
Yeah, but we finns do not understand those strange new words! :D "Reamer" does not make any sense. But the "fancy drill" make every sense!
Who's she? I only knew Annie.
The fancy drill bit you used at '17:19' is in English, and at least in the UK, called a reamer. I rember my grandad teaching me that! Used to regulize the size of holes / increase their diameter by a fraction of a MM
I'm so proud of myself of knowing the name of that tool, and i'm definitely not a machinist.
I really enjoyed seeing Lauri raw-dog it with his reamer!
Yeah, it's a Reamer in the US too (American Machinist here ❤) and they're used for finishing drill holes to specific sizes, and also makes them more concentric as opposed to how a drill hole is
@@Jazzythebarbarian86 Ah ha! Concentric - that was the word I searching for!
Why didn't I see this comment sooner.... :P
We always use soapwater, when cutting plastics. I dont know if there is a scientific reason for this, but works very good.
It keeps the material cool as the plastic melts at lower temperature & keep the shavings water rather than flying everywhere.
We use coolant to cut plastics, and lower feed rates to achieve a good finish.
14:14 your delivery here was comedic gold
"Here is your problem, it's too fucking long" XD
Whenever I wanted to order something along these lines - a unique request - and got the "can't do it / impossible to do it", I usually interpreted these in some cases as "I can't be arsed with that, you are not worth my time". Fair enough. On the other hand, when I was on the receiving end of such requests (our shop worked with sheet metal), those were often my favourite assignments.
Yeah. A lot of the time, when someone says "It can't be done" or "It won't work", it's because it can't be done BY THEM, or they don't want to risk getting blamed if it DOESN'T work.
I vaguely remember reading somewhere a thing that said "The easiest way to achieve the impossible is not to KNOW that it's impossible". I'm a trained engineer, and I had the blinkers of "The correct way to do [XYZ]" fitted on me by that education, so I always find it amazing to watch the seemingly crazy ways UNTRAINED engineers find to do things on RUclips. I'll see something and think "That'll NEVER work", but then it does!?!?
For this reason, I like watching what Ivan Miranda does on his channel. His channels well known for 3d printing stuff, but he's recently started doing basic metal machining using a huge DIY CNC router that he's designed and built. On his projects, some of the design choices he makes seem really weird, but it's because he comes to metal engineering from a area where you add material to create the part, where classical engineering is almost entirely about removing material. Also a tapped thread in a 3d printed part is a horrendously weak fixing method, so even when working in alloy, he still does some really odd tricks to avoid having to bolt directly into material....... But some of the "incorrect" techniques that he uses actually work really well, and may have applications where they'd be a better option that the more traditional approaches. This is quite an eye opening experience.
The finishing drill was called a 'reamer' in my day.
And still is
@@jecceworks Thank goodness for that, everything else seems to have changed since I finished my apprenticeship in 1948.
Acrylic is very easy to machine, but you need sharp tooling to get a good result. Will cut better with coolant, which is best to be water alone. To have a material that is a pain to machine try PTFE, which is both hard to cut accurately, and also likely to need to be cut thin as well. There you want both ultra sharp tools, and also cooling, as it softens with heat, plus it will deform and move away from the cutting bit, instead of cutting. One of the times dry ice is a good thing, to freeze it to a more solid state.
Interesting. I always thought that acrylic was awful to drill or mill since it chips and cracks or the drill bit gets stuck.
Maybe I need sharper tools.
@@MetalheadAndNerd Yes it will chip, but the right cutting angles, and sharp tooling, with a coolant, makes it relatively easy to machine.
Really enjoyed this video, seeing how you do things in the workshop and build things, for more mayhem on the HPC videos. It's fun seeing stuff get crushed, but it's really interesting seeing the process , especially when you're not sure how it'll turn out.
Would love to see more videos like this in the future! I know they're probably a pain to film and maybe not as popular as the regular videos, but maybe for stuff that you already need to build anyway, it's good to put the cameras on and explain as you work on it.
For future iterations you may want to consider a design that uses a moving cylinder. This has several advantages:
The piston no longer has to be see through so it can be made from steel.
Any leakage flows downwards and does not block the view of the holes.
No air-gap between between the cylinder and the holes in the piston should improve visibility.
Disadvantage would be that it is more difficult load fruit in the cylinde because it is upside down. Might have to balance the fruit on the piston.
Spends 3K euro on plastic, ''I'm just going to eyeball it''..🤣🤣🤙
What a legend.
heroism writ large
Awesome video as always. Was just curious because you know so much more than I about these things, are those special gloves you can wear when using the lathe? Read and saw some horrendous consequences when having any kind of material that can get caught in one of these unforgiving but incredibly useful machines. As always great video!
After all that preparation, the press looks *BEAUTIFUL!* A job well done I must say. Very well done!
Acrylic is very sensitive to solvents, even isopropyl alcohol will cause it to develop cracks; your first attempt at polish may have failed because many polishes contain hydrocarbon solvents. The best polish I have found for acrylic is a spray foam made for polishing it, it contains very fine abrasive particles and gives an excellent finish.
I learned this in my late teens after cleaning my acrylic bong w Iso Alcohol. Still lasted quite some time even w the cracks but I ended up trashing it when I moved houses.
What is the name/make & model of your foam polish?
@@thechris3553 It came from RS Components, but they no longer sell it. It was their own brand so not sure exactly who manufactured it.
great point, even Ethanol could crack that. Destroyed a 500$ piece of acrylic pipe once dipping it in alcohol 🥱
The reason the shops all said the tools were impossible to make was probably because they wouldn't be up to saftey standards, given that they shattered to bits at the slightest misallignment in the HP video.
Man, that's an expensive way to make wine! LOL nice work it looks incredible.
This was something I wanted to see for a long time. Thank you for making it possible.
Animals drive around the city in Finland? I never knew!
You could always try to get MCD (monocrystalline diamond) inserts for your lathe tools.
These will give a near perfect finish as long as vibrations are kept to a minimum.
You can get them from Garant or Horn : ruclips.net/video/lGpaJUYOKQE/видео.html
Looks beautiful, the polishing is really nice!
I vote for more of these machining videos & more Timo also.
The trick with plastic is cut fast and get the chips/curls out as they can melt in place and weld the tool to the workpiece. Use HSS tooling that is razor sharp for best cuts, most inserts are not sharp enough for clean cuts.
The straight fluted drill is a Reamer.
You should always anneal acrylic, even after you cut it with "just normal" tools, because it builds up internal stresses so quickly that can eventually crack it - especially if you use them for a hydraulic press 😅. Place the samples in an oven at 80 C for like a whole weekend...
Hey, thanks for the tip about the coarser compound! I had some scratches in my car wood panel interior that I had tried to polish out with the High Polish compound, but they turned cloudy. I thought it was not fine enough and gave up. Now I went in with the High Cut compound instead, and I got the scratches out and a mirror finish without any cloudiness!
You should bevel that top edge of the lower part to keep from breaking when its misaligned.
Sometimes I forget all these shenanigans are going on in a really cool machine shop.
Acetone: makes plastic scratches melt, resulting in clearer plastic.
Washing-up liquid makes a brilliant cutting lube for acrylic. :)
What i sometimes do to get cutting edges etc. on acrylics clear (because i'm lazy) is flame polishing. Just "touch" the area for a very short moment with a hot flame; the coarse surface melts up and gets transparent/clear.
Wouldn't that change the dimensions/tolerance?
Or I guess it wouldn't matter anywhere other than the mating surfaces... I'm going to try that on Monday!
The dimensions do not change unless you need less than +/- 100µm or so. And if, then it was way too hot.
Sitting here thinking how genius BTP is when then sudden he say's "You got to be a special kind of stupid to do this" 😆
I enjoy nearly every video on this channel, but this was especially awesome. Great work!
22:41 “Driving around the city like some … animal” cracked me up ngl. Big fan btw.
I think it was a HPC variant of Finnish expression "vituttaa kuin pientä eläintä vesisateessa" which one could translate as "infuriated like a small small animal[/squirrel] in the cold rain."
It's always great watching your videos but this was amazing seeing the work involved in manufacturing the equipment and the skill you have thanks for the great content
My only thought is to use a sacrificial piece to practice on in the future to get all speeds and methods dialled in.
You can add oil while drilling, that gives you a surface that looks polished.
I have been simply captured by your great video. It has taken me back to my youth in the early 70's, when at school we had the craziest physics teacher. He never failed to impress us with his wild experiments, underpinned by academic theory. He challenged us to embrace our creative and academic thoughts. At home our garden shed, became my domain for experimentation. I am proud to state that I only started three fires in that shed, but I did succeed in generating several large bangs that brought my parents and neighbours running to see if I was okay. I did though have some success, especially in developing small wind turbines suitable for home use. Keep up the great work, I am sure you will inspire our younger generations to greater things.
A mouse is every bit the miracle of life that is an elephant - but an elephant is *BIGGER*. Hydraulic Press!
Lauri: You have to be special kind of stupid ... so we can have this idea all for ourselves.
Other RUclipsrs: Hold my pint of hydraulic oil!
"I don't want plastic everywhere" said while pressing grapes, which squirts everywhere.
I think the cleanup after these videos is the most time-consuming part 😅
■■■...have you ever counter sunk the bottom of the worm holes...this would provide a wider initial opening to encourage the material to go thru the holes...😮
If you ever get to machining plastic again, uncoated carbide inserts and tools, usually used for brass and other non ferrous metals, work really well for plastic.
edit: They are sharper than HSS tools.
You _can_ get transparent Metal now, it's a funky Aluminium alloy. [ just like Star Trek ] It may be pretty costly though.
17:59 - acrylic needs cooling and usually lubricant for best results in deep cuts like that.
sometimes just slower cutting helps.
Been away from the channel for a while. Just got a notice that you posted a new video, which made me happy. Just a little thought. Where has Anni gone? Checked the movies I missed and she doesn't seem to be there anymore. Is she just behind the camera or has she quit?
AMAZING!!! cant wait for more clear press videos!
Love the ingenuity of the new tooling and your tenacity in machining them yourself. Can't wait to see more things pressed through it.
Have you looked into polycarbonate versus acrylic? Polycarbonate is much more shatter resistant
The accent mixed with him saying “because it’s too fucking long” is fuckin hilarious
I guess you hae to ask yourself, "Who is going to be my audience for this video"? My normal viewers?
how about putting an o-ring on the top of the pidton tool, so the fluids of the crushed materials dont flow between cylinder and piston and obstructing the view?
I've been out of this channel for almost 2 years. Someone can explain me where's Annie?😮
3000 euros is crazy... I know its custom size, but man that hurts, lol. End product looks awesome though !
sweetass shop! *you shouldn't be wearing a watch (or any jewelry) though.* ☹
You and I obviously have very different definitions of "shitty sock" 😂
Just remember "polishing" sounds like extreme sport of living in Poland.
Also, your dad seems to be a great troll. ;D
A few years ago we made some see-through plastic things in our shop and for the finnish we blasted it(carefully) with a heating pistol or what it's called...industrial hair dryer xD
But i'm not sure what material that was exactly.
Are you maybe looking for the name "hot air gun"? Is the end result same as open flame without the risk of getting carbon on the surface?
@@MikkoRantalainen Yeah, pretty much.
It spews out air at a couple of hundred celsius or so.
As it turns out, making transparent aluminum is similar to a sintering process.
Ever consider that?
Holy sheeet! With an adapter this could also function as the worlds first hydraulic bearing packer! Or maybe it already exists. What do I know? 🤔
Talk about over-engineering a juicer. That's dedication to making sure those grapes are smashed to their absolute limit. That's definitely 1 way to do it. Though there's cheaper ways my friend
If you got the money for it you could try using quartz, corrundum (ruby/sapphire) or aluminium oxide. All these are insanely hard and transparent if made correctly.
However it is probably impossible to work the material because of its hardness. Using diamond to kind of sand the material could be possible but probably would take forever.
FYI RUclips is not letting people click this video directly in the app
22:40 holy cow, did Anne get cancer or start taking meth? What happened?
That was *awesome* and I loved the whole process video. I'm really looking forward to seeing more fun with the new tools. :)
these parts looked quite easy to machine to me as well maybe the shops just didnt want to deal with the expensive material
Use kerosene as a lubricant when drilling acrylic. You will get a better finish with better optlcal clarity.
For a cutting fluid use soluble oil and carbide cutting tools ground for brass at high speed . you want the chips to fly off and not remelt.
I can confirm in English, that is in fact called a "fancy drill."
I like this idea! Transparent tools so we can see all the carnage going on during the pressing 😄
You may want another seal near the top 🤷♀️. To stop the fluid from going back down into it. If you want the cleanest possible presentation.
...Though if you are squishing things with higher surface tension it probably won't be an issue.
the best grape olive press spare no exspense its clear & beautiful
What a beautiful contraption you have built. It looks really good.
"Then im going to go in dry" - makes me laugh :D
all you need to use a heat gun or a torch to make it clear again
20:53 "I think we need a slightly longer sh** stick"
😄
17:10 reamer?
Now to make one with different angle holes!
I hope you make your €3000 back from the video. Well worth the money spent. Keep on keeping on bro!
Even it they don't get that money back from the video, they gained something more valuable: marketable experience. They will get the value back in the long run, and more.
Put another seal on the upside so liquids don't fill the gap.
Typically acrylic can be polished with a torch.
15:33 ignoring what they are saying , I wondered why they left the first drill place and why the hell second drill not going any deeper ........ Wait second what second hole drilling withouts bits it's like drill transfer from one place to another....! OMG ooh I got that ,
They might be talking about this fkg TI Reflection.
#17:15 "reamer", as it "reams" holes. :P
Fantastic video, enjoyed it really! Try using spirit when drilling to cool the shavings and the borehole wall. This makes the holes really smooth. Also, when you look closely at 16:33, you can see a bit of diffraction in the area of the hole, indicating partially melting the material there. When it cools down, it becomes stressed a lot, sometimes forming tiny cracks at the inside and weaken the stability.
You seem to know what you are talking about: what do you think of soapy water instead of spirit?
@@RALL123456 It could work. But I don't know for sure, if the cooling ability is enough, alcohol has a much lower boiling point and evaporates much easier, thus does a much higher evaporative cooling. Also, the soap doesn't evaporate and has to be washed off, spirit/alcohol evaporates without residue.
@@kamikazeratte thank you for your insight. With drilling things heat up easily, ill try a little spirit next time
Great video, more machining content please!
What a great job you guys did! Thanks for sharing.
I see you were thinking of opening the tool with compressed air, and then realized maybe that is a bad idea. You are getting wise my friend! (It looks awesome, but maybe add a second o-ring near the top so nothing gets in the gap?)
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That's a lot of work for a good result. I'm not sure if you tried, but when I've polished acrylic a quick wave of the gas torch over the surface gets great results very quickly.
You also get distortion.
Plastics like acrylic and polycarbonate will crack when you drill or cut them. Doesn't matter how good the tooling is: you would need to make the cut ridiculously slowly to avoid most of the cracking. Acrylic has a bad habit of turning microscopic cracks into very long, visible ones. What I have found works best is heat. Heat up the bit you use to above acrylic's melting point and use that--the plastic should spiral off the tool and/or leave globs around the cut surface. If you have something that has already been cut then use a blowtorch on all surfaces to make them clear and (hopefully) repair your microcracks.
FYI - I use an oscillating tool with a metal spatula bit--no teeth--on polycarbonate. The friction from that 3 degree oscillation is all it takes to heat and cut the plastic sheets.
I like the subtle sexual innuendoes 😆
You should try Aluminum oxynitride, AKA "transparent aluminum . From Wikipedia "Aluminium oxynitride has less than half the weight and thickness of glass-based transparent armor. 1.6-inch (41 mm; 4.1 cm) thick aluminium oxynitride armor is capable of stopping .50 BMG armor-piercing rounds, which can penetrate 3.7 inches (94 mm; 9.4 cm) of traditional glass laminate.
Straight away I'm pretty sure he's after making the outer cylinder diameter much too small, the cylinder walls won't be anywhere near strong enough to do anything meaningful if the piston diameter of the smaller rod is going to be that big.
Edit: I thought he was making a giant see through hydraulic ram. My bad!
You don’t need to polish. Use fire. Blow torch will make it clear. For your next project. (Only a little bit at a time, or it starts to boil the plastic. AKA bubbles.)
Love the machining content in this video :)
Shitty sock sticks FTW!!! 😁
If it's acrylic, couldn't you use flame polishing? Heat the rough areas just enough to slightly melt the surface and the surface tension makes itself as flat as water, which it keeps when it solidifies. Fast, easy and gives an arguably better result than mechanical polishing!
Aint no way I would use a drill that long without spotting the hole with a center drill first.
That's asking for misplacement of the drilling.
Yes, but no.
If he were making a bore that was going to have a shaft through it with bearings, sure.
But he is going to put bananas is this to make banana paste so being on center is a little less critical 😅
I always see people "polish" acrylic with a blow torch. They do not get the whole thing hot, just the rough surfaces. It basically melts the surface back flat, and looks clear again