Restoring the oldest type of sound recorder & player in history AND making new records
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2021
- In this video, I show how I refurbished an original sound recording and reproducing machine from over 100 years ago - an Edison Home Phonograph. I then go on to attempt to make recordings in a way that duplicates the very first technology used to do so, using a wax cylinder and a live performer.
This rugged machine, 109 years old, now performs as well as it did when it was first made. Watch me bring it back to its presentable original state, and trace my path of discovery to make it work well enough to record new cylinders. I felt a thrill when I first heard my recorded voice, reproduced by purely mechanical means, and it was clear and recognizable.
Can you imagine a world in which there was no recorded music, no radio, no television? How quiet life must have been in the late 1800's.
Along came the American inventor Thomas Edison, with an all-new invention that captured sound and could then reproduce that sound, over and over.
So began the recording industry, and the entertainment and edification of millions of people. 
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An excellent video not only reminding us but also demonstrating in full glory where it all begun. Thank you ever so much!
Excellent restoration and demo! This is truly TV quality content. Thank you for giving us viewers a history lesson and documenting an invention that changed the world forever.
The quality of the job is of the highest level. A unique feature of this restoration job is equal attention paid to the interiors that probably nobody will see again. I admire the passion more than the expertise that has gone into this restoration project.
That was amazing. I was blooody riveted from tip to tail. I have subscribed. I'll share this with my dad. He's 77 and a heck of an engineer. If there was no tool for his endeavour, he'd make one.
The original finish was shellac. You did a nice sympathetic cleaning. The damaged label is okay: it provides an indication of it's age.
The record announced by Ed Meeker dates from about 1905. (Edison announcements ended in 1908). The phonograph is an Edison Home Model A which dates from 1896 to 1905. You can tell from the earlier mandrel end gate and the bed plate. The later cabinet suggests it is from 1904-05. So the machine is around 117 years old as of 2021.
By 1912, the Home phonograph was out of date!
I would refer you to the book "Edison Cylinder Phonographs 1877-1929" by George Frow.
Actually, Not True. The Phonograph was heavily in use until Radio came in vogue in 1922. It was then people really stopped buying Phonographs... ;)
@@nefaurora by 1912, external horn phonographs were out of date. You could still buy them but they were passe as Edison began selling internal horn Amberolas.
It is like you saying flip up phones were still in use in 2021: yeah they would work but were out of vogue.
@@tedrobinson372 I thought that you meant Phonographs in general as you were not that specific to "external horn" phonographs if you read exactly what you wrote. No need to refer me to any of Frow's books...as I have every book the man ever wrote. I've been repairing Edison Phonographs for over 20 years... ;) Tony K.
@@nefaurora I had the good fortune to meet and talk with Mr Frow many years ago at CLPGS meetings. He was the one who personally inspired my interest in Edison phonographs over 40 years ago. I am grateful for that.
@@tedrobinson372 Yes. His loss was unfortunate...He was a good man. His books are excellent. But do have some mistakes and inconsistencies...but for his body of work...it is truly forgivable...... :0)
One of the most beautiful machines and the hymn recorded just as beautiful!
30:35 Great restoration - I thought this was interesting -
"Value of $20 from 1898 to 2022 - $20 in 1898 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $713.67 today"
Increible restauracion de este fonógrafo Edison Home de mas de 100 años, respetos y felicitaciones desde Venezuela.
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Superb!!! Thank you for a wonderful, in depth look at a piece of history!!
This was among, the history, the story, all just fascinating. Thank you so much for showing us how it works and the history lesson. Very intriguing, I would have never known how this worked, so thank you sir. God bless you.
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I gotta say, that was eye opening! Thx for presenting us with all your efforts and to your daughter(? ) too..as I see and learn how things were made in the early days my respect and awe increases with it, truly amazing!
Superb restoration!. Congratulations.
Fantastic! Your video deserves millions of views!
An extremely well put together video, educational and entertaining.
Awesome job. Congratulations!
This is absolutely fascinating.
In my family, as I was growing-up we had a tradition of doing diy recordings, my parents would search through their record collections and pick out songs to record on to 1/4 inch magnetic tape using a Sony Reel to Reel tape recorder/player, they would make up party tapes full of music to play at parties, the tapes would play for hours, my parents also bought reels of pre-recorded tapes, one of them was a big reel of Elvis Presley songs from about the mid 70's if my memory serves me right.
Very cool story
This reminds me about an acoustic gramophone that my mum inherited from her mum when she passed away, initially it wouldn't work properly, but my mum managed to get it working again, it had some original old 75 rpm gramophone discs with it so my mum decided to try playing one, at that time I had never heard music being played on an acoustic gramophone so it was a fascinating experience for me, as far as I could remember the sound was surprisingly pleasant to listen to, and was easily loud enough to be heard clearly, the sound fidelity wasn't as good as that achievable with the sound reproduction we have nowadays, but it was surprisingly quite pleasant to listen to.
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17:29 You almost got me... I skipped one or two heartbeats
Where is my Edison Home Airpods?
This is so amazing, I love this really old gramophone. Never realized the loudspeaker was sort of a trumpet 😂
I didn't think of this before but these old phonographs and gramophones went without electricity. Pure kinetic energy. People were smart in 1912.
That retouch... You are the Baumgartner of antiques 💖
Very very nice video to look at. 10 of 10
Beautiful ♡
as your friendly neighborhood phonograph expert on youtube since 2012 and active since 1989 i can say with certainty that this is not a post 1912 phonograph.
the greening of the oak confirms that since that practice ended around 1909 it plays 2 minute cylinders only and non of the post 1912 Edison phonographs do that.
all Edison cylinder phonographs where 4 minutes only after 1912.
the Edison phonograph is sporting the Edison Home Phonograph'' banner non of the Edison machines post 1908 show anything more than ''Edison'' as a marker.
the patent aplications on the ID plate go no further than 1901 on later versions of the Home that would be 1905 and 1908.
so this is not a 1901 Edison Home, it would sport a banner with red leters, so, it was made between 1903 and 1904 so, not 1912!!!!! for its an 2 minute cylinder machine only not the with combo of formats available after 1908.
since the1903 production numbers where off and low it is safe to assume this is a 1904 2 minutes only Edison Home Phonograph.
it has also not been adapted to the later finer groove system since there is no planetary gear coverguard in the pulley of this Edison Home Phonograph for the 2 formats of edison so, it was 2m only ever!! !and made in 1904!
"the talking phonograph"... Awesome sir 😎👌
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Thank you! Cheers!
Well done!
You're doing a beautiful job on restoring this Edison phonograph I had the same exact one and I am currently restoring Mayan it is a lot of work but it can be done
2598 views in two weeks? For this dedication and quality? Are. You. Kidding. Me.
Sound recording/reproduction technology has certainly come a long way since the days of Edison's Home Phonograph, imagine what people of that era would have thought of the sound recordings made possible with our current sound recording/reproduction technology?
I didn’t realized it was so involved. Nice
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The reason it sounds bad is the reproducer gaskets have dried and hardened. They can be replaced, though, and I would advise it.
I love all your videos and enjoy them over and over again. The objects you restore are works of art that have come to life. There are many things I want to decorate my room with. How did you acquire advanced technique and artistry?We would like to express our gratitude from Japan.
Very Nice! I am a lifelong admirer of all things Edison. I have many Edison cylinders and a nice old Edison Stanrad model D combination 2 and 4 minute machine.
I also collect and restore Edison recorders. Have made many many cylinder recordings. It takes lots of practice. I highly recommend using a Dictaphone shaving machine.
Have you tried wiping down the cylinder with TURPENTINE? This literally melts the surface, leaving a smooth, shiny blank on which to record! I've done it dozens of times with moldy brown wax cylinders, and the results are spectacular. I own an Edison Home Model 2-minute machine from ca. 1904, precisely similar to yours.
Where it all began. Still a marvel to behold. Hats off to Edison.
Well done
Maybe Brigit has to hink with her flute directly into the horn. The end of the flute into the horn. But it was amazing and interesting. So many time thank you.
Great job, you have a new subscriber :)
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Neato! Thank you
Wonderful restoration. Always align screw heads.
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Big efforts.
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Toothpicks are good to fill and repair screw holes.
If you wipe the cylinder down with kerosene lamp oil it will dissolve the top is top layer And then polishing with a very fine piece of cloth it will give a nice smooth finish alternative method to shaving... Is also warming the cylinder with a light bulb while it's splitting on the mandrill Before recording We'll give Deep grooves and the best recording results
its amazingn how you have NEVER recorded a cylinder in your life but your an expert at it...
See you should have gotten a metal band singer to sing into it for you LOL
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Nice to see an antique restoration that doesn't replace half of the original and tries to make it look like new (and hence invariably destroys all value it had).
Does the sound from the flute come from the mouthpiece or the other end? If it comes from the other end it would only make sense to record with the end by the funnel.
It comes (intensely loud) from the mouthpiece!
1) where the hell did you find that??? 2) where did you find the wax cylinders?? Probably THE best vid on RUclips, or any media, thank you so much!!!!
I MADE THAT! :-)
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Have you tried replacing the reproducer and recording head gaskets?
That paint on the inside has a very specific shade of green, it looks like Scheele's green. You'd better do some tests on the presence of arsenic
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When I was a kid in the early 50’s , our aunty let us loose with two of these identical machines and hundreds of edison amberol cylinders.
Each item was announced by a voice and would last about 2 minutes at 160 revolutions per minute. Some of the songs were English Music Hall numbers others were rousing Sousa marches . We found wax cylinders that were quite hairy after spending 50 years wrapped in cotton wool, and
We experimented with them by cleaning them with kerosene and winding down the recording stylus . We set the thing spinning and shouted into the trumpet. The result was disappointing probably because the wax had become dry and brittle but we imagined that we could hear faint voices .
The box of cylinders that came with this machine had some fascinating content - Uncle Josh (comedian), vaudeville sketches, foreign language numbers, and yes, some marching band music. You probably did hear faint voices, what a fun memory.
Were they black or brown wax? Pre-recorded black wax cylinders are too hard for decent recording (assuming you had a recorder: it's nearly impossible to record with a reproducer).
@@Lucius1958 as I remember it , they were a rather washed out beige colour which could have been brown when they were new. I do recall that the recorded cylinders were mainly black and some were blue. the recording stylus was a wedge shaped piece of quartz mounted on the end of a beam located on a fulcrum attached to the pickup diaphragm that was screwed down to touch the wax cylinder while the pickup stylus on the other end of the beam was raised.
Really cool player. Good restoration & repair.
I'm glad you didn't try to refinish it, keep it authentic!
Seriously, pair up with an expert in old wood repair! It hurts to watch you clumsily glue stuff back together. Yeah, it works, but it could be so much better! Keep trying though! That handle used old school enamel, lots of voc's that you couldn't replicate easily today - powder coat was a good choice!
WOW!
My step father own one he has around 60 cylinders really cool. By the way it’s brand new so to speak.
Hey BOM, if you replaced the diaphragm with a new one(or a homemade one) would it sound louder and better?
Great question, and the answer is probably. In reading one of the old manuals, they pointed out that different diaphragms were used for voice, single instrument, orchestras, etc.
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who made the new blank in the orange box?
I found this really relaxing until the shop vac came out. Anyways, nice flute playing and awesome restoration.
Ever tried using a small lapel microphone This way you could capture the stylus output and use digital restoration.
And.... No Electricity. It's still mind blowing technology to me.
Maybe the handle was coated with japanning and that’s why it wouldn’t come off easily
I believe you're right.
For a restoration it looks good before not gonna lie
Yes, I can imagine a world without Thomas Edison, with sublime improvements and much more authenticity.
Sadly that's really the best result you can hope for wit a cylinder phonograph... while it was absolutely revolutionary at the time, it definitely wasn't the best quality of sound, owing to both the medium and method of recording. Personally, as someone with sound-to-color synesthesia, I can respect the machine for the historical impact but the sound quality sets my teeth on edge.
That brown cylinder didn't look totally gone, I bet it had some audible sound reproduction.
I heard that the first thing played on one of these was a diss track of Nikola Tesla by Edison
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do you know where I can get a new belt for mine
I went to Michael's Crafts and bought leather strips (like laces) - I glued the ends and it held nicely. Good luck!
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A few things here... Yes, Your Edison Phonograph is indeed a Edison Model A "Long" New Case style Phonograph produced from 1901 to 1905. Please do not use 3-in-1 oil. That oil contains Paraffin Wax and will certainly "Gum up the Works" and cause your machine to run much slower than it should.. Using 3-in-1 oil was not in the original Edison Documentation, but was added by an unknown person to an original Edison Instruction booklet after the fact when uploading it to the internet. The only oil that should ever be used is an actual fine Sewing Machine oil. Also, Some Original Edison Dataplates were actually Anodized Aluminum over Brass and then painted a "Japanned" Black... so they did indeed come in Black....especially on these Edison Home Machines. I think you did an AOK job... Good Luck with her!... Tony K., Edison Collector/Restorer, Melbourne, Florida.
I agree with you about 3-in-1 oil. I repaired typewriters in the late 1970s, and that oil is terrible!! It dries out and turns to a solid mess. It's like "oiling" something with pancake syrup! Machines would come in, jammed up completely and I could always tell by the odor that 3-in-1 was the culprit. I would recommend cleaning any mechanism carefully and re-oiling with zoom-spout oil, available anywhere. You can add a small amount of Marvel Mystery Oil to the Zoom spout mixture for a little more penetration, or just use the Zoom Spout oil as-is. Never use 3-in-1 oil on anything! PS...I never used sewing machine oil, but I've heard about it-probably the same as zoom-spout oil.
@@BakedRBeans Ha! I use ZOOM SPOUT OIl all the time!...on all my Phonographs. It is very close to Sewing Machine oil... I buy it at my local ACE Hardware.. However, When I need real Grease on heavy gearing or mainsprings, I use Castrol Brown Bearing Grease from a small tub. It's excellent...!! You can also use Edison's Original formula Graphite and Vaseline on Mainsprings....but I shy away from it because it tends to make a huge black mess... ;) Tony K.
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Oh sure. I get it already. Some parts will stay the way they are. The photographs exterior wasn't made out of marble. At first glance, I thought that it was a record player. Since I've seen Thomas Alva Edison listen to his phonograph he invented. I know that I should've closely cross-examined this contraption.
that's probably a japanned finish on the crank
What a messy process! As the lady of the house, I would have been less than enthusiastic about this technology.
Actually, this machine was made in 1904 judging by the serial number on the nameplate.
RUclips's translation is funny, it says, you would make disc records.
Or in the subtitles you would do something, that could be an entry in the Guinness Book Of Records
ماشاءاللہ۔"ماواں ٹھنڈیاں چھاواں"۔ بہت زبردست ویڈیو تھی۔اللہ تعالٰی آپ کو اور کی فیملی کو اپنی حفاظت میں رکھے آمین۔ امید ہے آپ کو بھی ضرور میری ویڈیوز پسند آئے گی۔شکریہ👍"جل جاو خاموشی سے کڑی دھوپ میں اپنوں سے کبھی سایہ دیوار نہ مانگو"🙂
Do you know what Edison first recorded? It was Mary had a little lamb. He got halfway thru it and stopped and said," HA,HA, HA"
Der Ton kommt an dem Ende der Flote raus!!
Yes, this is why flautists point the end of the flute away from their audience, and the mouthpiece towards their audience, so their audience gets to not hear the music very well. Oh, wait…
This isn't the first sound recording, there is a sound recording which dates back to 1860 which was recorded by Leon Scott, which invented the phonautograph in 1857 which is the first known sound recorder, the sound recording doesn't sound like a human though, probably because of how old it is.
Green paint from that era was horrifically poisonous. They used copper arsenite which would off gas and build up toxicity in enclosed spaces.
good thing its stained, not painted
How much was $20 at that time in todays money?
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Should have tried recording some metal instead, nice try anyway, great video.
Probably another idea Eddison stole from Nicolas Tesla or someone like that, but a very beautiful thing nevertheless , you made a beautiful job of restoring it amazing job
Ce n'est pas une "restauration", mais un nettoyage, quand aux 100 db, 🤣🤣🤣
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