Grease your suspension linkage! Tenere 700
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- In this video you will learn how to do this your self.
When Yamaha delivers your bike, the rear suspension linkage comes dry as a bone, when it really should be greased. If you don't give it some love it will start corroding and wear those bearings in no time.
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Great video as alway, thanks!
I just went and did mine, so here is a top tip for the lazy and the one with a center stand:
1) You can do this job with the wheel on, plenty of space, however, more space easier the job, so consider taking it of. I did mine with the wheel on.
2) If you have the center stand (at least the one from SW Motech), the stand will initially be in the way of the bolt closest to the engine. This is solved by taking out the other two bolts first. Then strap/lift the wheel/swingarms all the way up, as high as it goes with the wheel on. Then you can push the damper unit towards the rear and pivot the link out of the way of the centre stand. Or you can just take the damper unit off all together. A 15 min job with minimum hazzle.
Fantastic feedback. Thank you!
15 minutes? it took me 2 hrs, smile. So obviously i need to practice a lot more. but u are right with the center stand from sw motech. thanks for the tip
Thanks for the tip. I'll be installing my center stand in a week or two so I will grease those joints beforehand to save me work later on. I wonder if it makes any difference with center stand from Yamaha.
I can confirm you can actually remove the shock without taking the wheel off. Just chock the swingarm so it doesn't drop when you remove the bolts,
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I’ve said it before, your workshop videos are excellent. Very clear and well explained. This is still relevant even if you don’t own a Tenere. Thank you ✌️
and thank YOU! :)
To add value manufacturers have added sophistication in electronic and engine modifications whilst choosing to penny (cent) pinch by removing the basic grease nipple and lubrication points.
@@angels731 indeed
Thanks for this Video. I will do this tomorrow at my T7 after 3 years and 52K KM😬
I believe I would use marine wheelbearing grease that is used on boat trailers. It is waterproof and lubricates well.
This just reiterates one of life's great truths. Never go in dry.. 😆 Thanks Robert!
Lubrication is your best friend, assists action and reduces unwanted heat build up 😜
Really nicely explained and shown, thank you. T700 will be my next if my V-Strom will ever die, so collecting as much info as possible already
Thanks for that video.
Something that I looked at with apprehension but you have nicely shown how it is done. Cheers
thank you from Sydney. I'll do this at the same time as I fit the 85N/mm rear spring
Thanks a lot. Now I have something to do during the next lockdown.
I bought new tenere, drove it only 300km yet, but I will grease them up first thing after 1000 km service, thnx for bringing this up, great video.
Very wise recommendation and how to do it, great vid.
Thank you!
Thanks Robert! 🙂👌 I finally got my own Teneré a few days ago, here in British Columbia Canada, after more than a year of waiting and living vicariously through your videos.. 😄
I thoroughly greased my Teneré's suspension linkage today after seeing your video. You are 100% right about how it's totally dry, except for the little bit of grease in the needle bearings. Pretty shocking and most owners would not even be aware of it Keep up the great work, love your channel and your videos! Skål! 🍻 🇸🇪 🇨🇦
Congrats to the new T7! And Skål!
@@NomadSweden Thanks Robert! 🍻
Great informational video, thank you! With only 1600 miles on mine, this is a 'service' that I'd like done before I start the next riding season! Cheers!
T’is the season to be greasy.
Thank you for the detailed explanation 👍
Thanks for recommendations.
Merry Christmas
Merry Xmas
Did mine earlier this evening. As Skr found the centre stand is in the way of the front link bolt (I have the Yamaha one). I didn;t get around it his way as I had a scissor lift handy. Another great video Mr Nomad!
Thanks! Good to know about the centre stand
did mine today, 6000km on the clock, but it really had wear on it, i ws a good idea to do this. Thanks for informing us. and to the other happy T7 owner, just get down on it and do it, othewise it will cost some more money to replace parts
Very helpful. I’m putting on some 20mm lowering links and your video will help greatly.
Thanks!
Always great Nomad!👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks for the video👍🏼
Thanks!
This is a very useful tip, thank you.
You're right, the maintenance booklet only says check. It says nothing about greasing.
I have to check it out soon. Mine now has 12000 km on it.
Today I checked whether it looked the same. And what can I say, it looked the same. I did not ride in the snow or on salted roads. All I can say is lubricate, lubricate and lubricate. I think i have to check this on ervery tire change.
So again, thank you.
Luv the squirrel 😂. Good advice. Tks for taking the time to help others with that
To few squirrels in videos nowadays. Thanks 😊
Hey I know this is “old” as far as it’s post date but still wanted to say Thank You for the info and the heads up on a known QC issue from Yamaha. Keep up the good work and ride safe!
Thank you 🙏
Nice job. Giving mine the grease today. Love the squirrel!
Nice Video, I must Inspect and grease mine also... thanks for sharing!
Anonther Grate video!,You Turn the things so easy! Thanks.
Thank you!
very important video , thanks for sharing
Thanks
million trillion thanks for your amazing videos, i enjoyed your trips, i felt i visited those countries with you, wish me luck being able soon affording a tenere 2023 and visit many beautiful places.... thanks again for sharing your experience with us, wish you wonderful life ...
Thanks and safe travels
I heard storys that there is no greace inside the suspension. But what see in this (your) video looks horrible.
Now I know what I have to do this winter.
Thanks for 😉👍
Thanks. Great video.
Thanks for explanations, this work must be done after the buy...
Danke für den Tip.. 👍👍👍
Good tip robert...I will do the same thing next weekend too...Thank you und merry x-mas for you and your family !!! Kind regards and cheers sascha from germany 👍🏻😉
Danke sehr! Ich wunche dir auch ein Frohes Weinachten und Guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr :)
With those open needle bearings, I think I'll do mine after every long ride! Good vid.
Thanks! Yeah they are exposed indeed.
Thanks for the video 👍
Many thanx!
Haha, now i know what you did at Biltema! Beefed up the garage capability ☝️😁. Grease seems expensive for manufacturers, they all seems to lack it on their shelf... Great work as allways.
Thanks buddy!
Great video ! Thanks.
Thanks!
I like your sense of humor. Good video.
Thanks 🙏
Put an old rag between sprocket and chain at 11 oclock position and turn wheel backwards . It will pull the wheel towards the bike, makes life easier.
I grease everything up with Kroon ball-bearing grease. My wheel axles, rear bolt nuts, threads. It's heat resistant, doesnt attract much moisture and is way thicker and sits longer than silicone based stuff.
Ok, good, but you missed one of the bearings on the linkage, and the swing arm bearings themselves, all of which will be similarly devoid of grease.
I need to go after those.Just been too lazy.
Big thanks top tip 😁👍👍👍
Have done the same on my T7
All that greasing procedure brought me mixed feelings lol. Great job 😁
Haha sorry. You don't have to go in through the exhaust you know...
Thank you fore the video -)
you can also just leave the rear wheel on. lift with the lift to the wheel just resting on the floor. then all the bolts are loose at the same time and the whole thing can be removed and lubricated. 🙂
Cool! Thanks for the tip
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Thank you!
Based on what I'm seeing, maybe a good idea to pull the swingarm off and do the bearings on it too, while you have all that stuff off.
Yes that would be a good idea. I haven’t been that brave yet. Learning as I go.
Yes, and the third bolt and bearing on the linkage...
It just gets dificult if the bolts stay there to much time.
Greasing everything isn’t always necessary. If you have acetal bushings for instance the grease will trap dirt and accelerate damage and wear.
You are awesome!!! Thanks!!
Thank you!
Same problem with Yamaha FJR 1300 and Honda. Kawasakis have an "Alemite" greaser, easy to maintain without disambling.
There is another person in the world that know what a alemite is, I always get the reply it's a zerk fitting.
well done thanks. I saw a happy beast
Thanks! :)
Oh nomad I forgot to ask! Have you seen the new swingarm protector piece for the tenere? I think t7rally just did an advert for it but it just sort of fits between the exhaust and the swingarm because people have been falling on the right side and the exhaust takes a chunk out of the swingarm itself! which is a little scary. I thought I might mention it.
I'm definitely getting a tenere this year and i was just thinking about changing the linkage to maybe the slightly longer one because I have a 29~30inch inseam so I'm a little short for the bike haha! So this video is perfect for me, you're basically doing everything I plan on doing so any maintenance you do on this is such a big help and I can't thank you enough.
Thanks! The protector is a good idea if you want to keep the exhaust the way it is. I plan to mount a high exhaust later on.
Nice
Excellent demonstration of the components of the rear suspension. I was considering the T7 but felt it was a bit too tall. I see that they offer a "lowering kit". But was surprised to see that the kit is simply two linkage arms. You have clearly shown how the linkage arms work in the suspension and how easy it is to remove or change them. That provides me much more confidence that I can lower the bike and the return it to normal configuration with very little effort - so I should not be afraid to give it a try. Thanks!
Thanks! Glad I could help
Touratech sells a complete lowering kit.Mine is a bit too tall for me.Gonna try the Seatconcepts low comfort seat first.I've dropped mine twice because I couldn't get me foot down.
Nice job, now I dont need to make that video ;-) Those is the most exposed bearings. There is one left towards the front I would like to lubricate as well. The nut is close to the catalyzer and then not easy to access with a standard torque wrench when reinstalling the nut. Will have to use an extension arm (and recalculate torque) or remove the exhaust. I hope to find out how that nut could be torqued. (60Nm) The swing arm pivot bolt is part of the maintenance and should be lubricated every 50.000 km according to the service manual.
Thanks Sven. I know you got all the details. And you can make the video your way. There is always need for a Sven version.
Hello, there's the same job to do for the crf 300 L and Rally.
Awesome guide!
Mot Biltema för lyftköp!
Tackar! :)
Just so you know,there is a bushing and needle bearings in the bottom of the shock too.
Good video !. Molybdenum based grease is much better in my opinion , lasts a lot longer.
Thanks for the tip
Yes Moly grease like LM47 for high pressure applications like these and Litho grease like LM 50 for fast spinning bearings which wheel bearings is a good example of.
Great video! Don't suppose you fancy doing another when you have a sec on front and rear tyre removal 🙏
In this video that part is more detailed ruclips.net/video/uWi-gBE1TS4/видео.html
Does anyone know what kind of grease Yamaha uses (lack of grease, I guess) in the linkage at the factory?
I wonder if Moly Grease might not be better in the long term? Just a thought... much thanks for all you do!
Thanks. Im sure there are better grease for this purpose.
yamaha is famous for not greasing anything since years, mine xt tenere was stock bone dry...
As a dirt bike rider, having been on Yamaha wr's for a while now, this is a job i am very familiar with.
any tips mine has 2000 miles and ive never done anything but lube the chain and an oil change
I finally had some linkage bearings fail a couple yrs back on a used YZ250FX I purchased. Never again ! It's a whole lot more enjoyable cleaning and greasing this stuff occasionally than knocking out and replacing the bearings even once.
thx! will do too after 22k km... :( Not T7 here but my bike has seen a lot of dirt :)
Good to check on any bike 👍🏻
Nice how to video Robert....it maybe psychological but the bike seems to ride better after the linkage is lubed!. Cheers, Steve
If you feel it, it’s true 😊 thanks steve
@@NomadSweden ruclips.net/video/5NsaRPXadxY/видео.html Cheers Robert, you might like this.
Watchef that one. Nerb1 is a great channel
Did I really see a dancing squirrel ? Wow I must cut down on the daytime drinking during lockdown ! #covidsucks . Great VLOG thank you so much !
Haha you are in the deep end now. 🐿
Great video, I have my suspension out to change the spring so will take the opportunity to grease up. Do you put the grease only in the hole before inserting the pipe or do you also grease the inside of the pipe before inserting the bolts?
Thanks. You have a great opportunity then. You could make sure everything is greased well. Rather too much than too little. Grease all way through 👍🏻
Another great video, Robert!
Did you have to take the rear wheel of for the linkage greasing? I have my rear shock out right now for spring swap, didnt take the rear wheel off. Thanks!
Thanks! It was easier to get the arms and bolts out with the wheel of, and easier to lift the swing. But I'm not sure if you have to.
Thank you for the video! I am not sure if it is a problem lifting the T7 with a lift like you got it, what should be damaged? Plus I also dont know a different way to do this work than maybe lifting it with a hoist, e.g. on the pillion footrests. Removing the skidplate and lifting the T7 on the oil sump wont work because it is not located in the center and has a rather small surface, which may lead to dropping the T7 in your garage.. :D
Thanks! Well, I don't think things will break, but the manual says not to lift under the skid plate. I take my chances :)
I wonder why Yamaha or any other manufacturer doesn't grease whatever needs to be greased from the factory.
I'm almost certain no difference is noticed while riding but maybe less wear on the parts greased over time?
Nice 👍💪👊
Thnx, I'll defenitely grease them next time I have to do some maintanance.
Dont you need to grease the linking bolt in the frame where the trianglulare peace pivvots in the frame? If you know what I mean, you didi2 out of 3 bolts/bearings on it. Thnx for your reply.
Hi! Yes you should grease that one too. It's just a bit more complicated to get it off.
OK, I'll be "that guy": The Yamaha T7 service manual does not call for greasing the linkage bolts and sleeves. Only the oil seals outside of the bearings are shown to require lithium soap-based grease. Grease elsewhere is likely useful to prevent corrosion but Yamaha doesn't seem to think it's needed for lubrication.
You're correct :)
P.S. dont forget to do the top shock mount bearing/bush.
yep, it's done earlier and mentioned in the video
Hello.
I have the same lift and my question is, can you lift the T7 under the original engine cover and nothing will happen, do you have to combine as specified in the manufacturer's manual?
The manual says you can not use a lift under the skid plate.
Vaselin nippor är din bästa vän, fixar alltid det på hojjar och snöskoter boggies :) Drill and thread 3 maybe 4 holes, and install greaze zerks. I assume it's a needle bearing at the frame mount for the link aswell, that u didn't lube ?
Yep, there are two more places to grease if you want the full linkage greased. Frame and swing links.
I would have cleaned that area with diesel or kerosene and a brush and air gun. Then rinsed with water and dried with air gun. Just to have that area complete clean before dismounting and exposing the needle bearings. Without cleaning, there is a risk dirt would already enter the bearing when you pull out the bolt-bushing. Cleaning also ensure nothing dirt enters the bearings when new grease is applied. Even though you used that rag before, but using the rag when bearing already is exposed is a bad idea, chances are too big, some dirt enters the bearing. Other wise a good and interesting video. I like your channel and informative videos.
Thanks. Sounds like a good idea. I learn as I go
Excellent video. As I try to make friends with my brand new Tenéré (never driven) I dismantled lot of things. It is much easier then with my Africa Twin (and much cheaper) But I wonder how you got all the values for the torques?
Hi 👋🏻. Google for the service manual for the Tenere 700. It has all information.
@@NomadSweden Thank you, I never expect to find a download that easy, cause my dealer made a secret out of it. I had to slack the engine bolts for installing the OEM crash bar cause the engine was mounted under tension. After unscrewing an engine bolt the holes didn’t match anymore. Now I’m able to set the correct torques
Hello. I just picked up a used T7 and noticed a loud clunking felt in the foot pegs on hard hits. I saw this video and decided to grease the linkeage. After lifting the bike I found quite a bit of play in the top shock bushing. Have you had the same experience? I heard some clunking in your other T7 sound video.
I havent inspected the shock since this video in that way. But I sure will now. Thanks.
Nice vid!
Do you sometimes miss your big GSA?
Thanks. Actually no. I love the off road and T7 is more fun there. Well, ok, long highway in rain... the BMW was better there :)
how soon after buying a brand new tenere do i need to do this
I did it after almost 20000 km so no rush
My old Tenere '84 has greasing valves on linkage. This is example where factory should not save their costs :-( . I was thinking about it, would not be dificult to drill holes into bolts, when I checked it on my new Tenere. Hope some aftermarket tunining will be soon available :-)
Yes they built to last in the old days
The upside of having to take the linkage apart every now and then is that you will notice if you’ve gotten moisture in the so its starting to rust, and you can inspect the shaft seals as well. The problem with grease nipples between two bearings is that the grease only go out the easiest way, so when you press the grease in between the bearings it will most likely just go through one of the bearings and the come out on that side of the linkage. “The path of least resistance”, But a little grease is better than no grease at all. 😀
@@henrikforsberg683 I trust pulling it apart and thoroughly going through it. Don't let them get to the point of failing and this isn't a big deal. Once you have to swap out all the bearings and seals you realize what a waste of extra time and money it is not to service these on a schedule.
What decal kit is on there, and where did you get it?
Rubberdust.com
Hi. Very instructive video, thanks. Which lift are you using? What is its spec? Cheers
Thanks. This is what I use. Local brand. www.biltema.se/bil---mc/mc/verkstadsutrustning/mc-lyftar/mc-lyft-680-kg-2000021674?gclid=Cj0KCQiAoab_BRCxARIsANMx4S742QiVukzrTk4L6anR9RszG4P05ncNVu3XJFWR9kqehlPHxPl-eH8aAlJREALw_wcB
@@NomadSweden Excellent, thanks. Good to see that using such a lift seems to be fine. Cheers
Is it necessary to take off the wheel or it can be done with wheel on? Thanks
Not sure if it’s trequired but it helps to get space and move swing.
Good one Nomad :) just greesed my bearing top end bolt was showing some rust other were fine. A question though - on the top bolt clossest to the swing arm the inner casing for the bolt is loneger the bearing housing - correct? Making the link on top bolt always a bit offset to one side or anorher? Thx
Thanks. Actually i am not sure since it was some time ago. You could check the service manual
@@NomadSweden top. Thx ;)
Did you do the swingarm bushing as well?
Nope but somtime i will
Wouldn't a waterproof grease be better than the lithium grease especially for linkages?
No idea. 😊 i use this grease all over
where can I get manual for all bolt torques for t7?
I look in the service manual and have written down the ones I need. Here you can download frim my dropbox www.dropbox.com/s/qm9lenlbxm2d63g/T7_Service_Manual.pdf?dl=0
Hi, you have changed the Motoz tyres, no more with Motoz ?
Hi! I am trying Dunlop now, but will get Motoz again for next summer trip.
What do you think about a flexx handlebar for the Tenere? I am saving for one, seems to be magic how good they work on maxi trails. Regards.
Oh never saw Flexx before. Looks good. But i have no opinion on them yet 😊
@@NomadSweden did you look it up (I am not a flexx salesman lol)
By the way, got the bike back from the dealer with the 5k service done, I asked for grease on the bolts and told them the issue, and that I will take the bolts off before end of warranty and demand a replacement, and they cleaned and greased em with no charge (that's what they told me there is a chance they did not!) though I think so as they reflected it on the work sheet.
So...thanks a lot for such tip you save me a probable future issue. Cheers.
Great of them to include the work. 👍🏻 no flexx opinion though 😊 looks cool but i have no idea
Hello there, i see that you are using the 908's. How do you like them and what about wear? Best regras from Portugal and congratulations on your content!
Great tyres and they have abou 4.000km in the video so they last long.
@@NomadSweden probably my choices for the TET. Thank you
Good video, great info and well done. Loved the superimposed torque values info. What video software did you use for that? Ciao, Marco.
Thanks! I use Final Cut Pro on mac
@@NomadSweden I've been wanting to give that a try. I've been using iMovie all along, but as much as I like it it does have quite a few limitations. Was that torque graphing a special effect that comes as standard in Final Cut, or is it something else you added using Final Cut? Ciao, Marco.
I used a plugin to place it on a moving background but the rest standard features
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@@NomadSweden Very nice. Thanks
That suspension linkage, not my favorite construction detail of the T700
Hi there. Is is normal that you can move the hole Arm - Spring unit sideways? About 3 mm?
Not sure. I think its ok
@@NomadSweden Yeah- It's ok. I asked my Yamaha dealer / workshop. today
How often or how many times should the links be greased?
Not sure but I will check it at least once after every season.
hi nomad, do u need to remove the rear tire for this?
Hi! No people have reported doing this without removing rear tyre.
@@NomadSweden hi nomad im doing mine at the moment thanks for the video!