Yes it was never a debate comparing a 1 club player vs a versatile,adaptive player. cristiano Netted 100+ goals across england,spain and italy. Meanwhile messi was a flop at france. media will convince messi is a playmaker type shit, go and search at youtube, ronaldo's playmaking, go and see all those brilliant assists that benzema failed to convert as a goal. you guys just look him as a pure goalscorer because of his ridiculous amount of goal number, you dont see whats he's doing on the pitch😂😂
@@personaluse7783😂 brother Messi joined PSG at 34-35 and his role was as player maker mbappe was the main guy team. While Ronaldo was striker at that age and people were talking about Ronaldo Juventus was underrated But they can't see ciro outscored him with Lazio. And Ronaldo scored 30% of his goal in Juventus were penalty goals. And if Ronaldo was better than tell me Ronaldo won 5 league top scorer award in 22 year of his career Messi did that same 5 league top scorer in 9 season when Ronaldo was at real Madrid. In finals matches Ronaldo biggest clutch player Score 20 goal and 2 assist in 35 matches. Messi scored 34 goal and 17 assist in 49 finals. (Europe and national team stats) Ronaldo vs Messi h2h matches More goals:Messi More assist: Messi More g/a: Messi More rating: Messi More hat-trick: Messi More MVP:Messi More win:messi Also people talking about Messi goal in friendly match They not counting Messi goals against Brazil, Uruguay team in friendly But they are counting Ronaldo goal against so called official matches against 150-200 ranked team. Ronaldo scored only 7 goal out of his total 128 goal against world cup winning team(England, Italy, France, Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Uruguay, Spain) While Messi scored 17 goal out of his total 106 goal against world cup winning teams. Ronaldo 0 g/a in world cup in knock out matches Messi in last World Cup 8 g/a in knock out matches most by any player.
@@personaluse7783 get well soon man how can you be so delusional Versatile and adaptive only fits for Messi as he has highest no. assists and highest goal ratio. Messi has 6 golden boots and Ronaldo has 4 How is he a better goal scorer ? Learn football first
*Cristiano Ronaldo is a LEGEND. His records tells his legacy. He played for 3 different clubs and smashed records there. And then, came back to his former club Man Utd despite having a weak side he led his club on his own and guess what! Finished 2nd in the top scorer ranking with 19 goals.* *Question: How many clubs Messi played for and how good he performed there?* *The answer is one PSG and he failed there despite having world class players backing him. He didn't perform as expected. He was good at Barcelona because he had a tough side backing him.* *Proof: When FIFA boy' Messi was called for to came back to Barcelona, he denied because a lot of talented players already left the club and he knew he couldn't led the team on his own and what legacy he created there will be destroy in a single season.* *So, Haters have some football sense before talking and show huge respect to the G.O.A.T = C.R.7*
he definitely has some sort of bias to say that it's not even close, especially how he completely ignores all of Ronaldo's acheivements and claims that Ronaldo is just a "goalscorer"
@@Kingmus3bkeep crying buddy messi trumps ronaldo in everything he plays in a harder national team he has less nations that he can stat pad on lmao 4 ucl carried a world cup and 7 ballon dors and your mr ucl has a worse goal ratio in the ucl compared to messi and has a worse ovr rating compared to messi
@@mightytitan1719 bro what 😂? I must say messi is jealous or obsessed with ronaldo. Didn't you watch the boateng and rio ferdinand podcast? He asked boateng whether he could score more goals in Serie A. 😂Lol
@@prasadsawant7ah yes asking how hard it is to score in Series A is peak jealousy. Ronaldo made childish comments about the last 3 ballon d'or messi won. Ronaldo's entire family is obsessed with messi.
@@corbe1970ify The vast majority of current players, ex-players, managers and experts say Messi. Among younger fans, it might be more even between them. Some older fans seem to choose Pele or Maradona.
It was a debate because of the Spanish media trying to sell papers, Messi is a technical marvel. He has the accolades,the stats, the eye test, and the story.
Messi can do no wrong to the media. Ronaldo is hated because he is a confident and openly proud about his achievements. A confident masculine role model who emphasizes hard work is ALWAYS going to be hated by the media. The general media does not think that is feminist and wont support proper male role models.
Nah bro that’s just cap it was back and forth for years every year they levelled each other up there’s no way messi would be as good as he is without ronaldo being there to push him vice Versa and that’s facts! You need that as a sportsman or you’ll relax Ronaldo at he’s peak could control a game just as much as Messi could you see it in the El Classicos they played vs one another people just disrespect Ronaldo for no reason I would say Messi just edges it but to say it wasn’t even close is complete disrespect
CR7 is the perfect horse for man. A magnificent jumper, worker, military etc. Messi is the essence of a free horse in it’s purest form roaming the prairies, as a free spirit.
Bro i am a messi fan, but this guy is just a trash talker, he still has the highest amounts of own goals in the premier league history, this guy got destroyed by rono countless times in pl, and what not then got knocked out in the wc by him, calling rono only a goal scorer showed his trash ball knowledge, dont get me messi is the greatest, but his guy is just biased against rono
@@robertmusil1107 you're pushing it way too far dude. Also its funny how now that messi won international trophies everyone is saying debate is over, before they were saying that messi doesn't need international trophies 😂
“Ronaldo wasn’t in his prime at united” bro does this guy watch football? Yes ronaldo was at his prime in Real Madrid aswell but united aswell. And this guy should give up talking shit abt ronaldo Messi called him a donkey Ronaldo ignored him. Bro got humbled by the woman real quick
Ronaldo is the best player ever You can hate him and say nonsense about him but the world have eyes Messi won the World Cup and 8th ballon dor yet he’s crying around for not being recognized enough That tells how fake it is He can’t do anything out of Barcelona
Listen, let's just say ronaldo depends on teammates' messi teammates, depending on him. Stop acting like a fool it's annoying real Madrid. Do all work, then ronaldo gets top in or pen and gets all the praise. Anything that has to do with votes ronaldo would more like to win once it has to do with actual football stats. messi will win. Have some sense
@@miguelcharlton5315 you yourself should have some sense. How can you be so dumb and ignorant? do you even watch football or just hate Ronaldo blindly? What has messi done outside of Barca?Who were Messi's teammates in his debut? Have you seen Ronaldo's teammates? Messi won nothing outside of Barca except the d'or which haland deserved and the wc with the help of yk who.
@@miguelcharlton5315 u watch football through reels kiddo Ronaldo literally carried Real Madrid with clutch goals many times and tapin? Ronaldo had more outside the box goals than messi also during his time at Madrid ronaldo actually had more free kicks than messi too but hey u wouldn’t know that u weren’t even born back then loser messi fan
Anyone is actually thinks ronaldo was just a pure goal scorer in his prime years needs to go get a check up at a doctors, it was still maybe 2019- present is pretty much just a pure goalscorer & bit of a poacher
Bro after 2014 CR7 pretty much turned into the main goalscorer of Real Madrid. Benzema was kind of a false-9 and allowed CR7 to play more like a striker. Plus CR7 couldn't dribble like he did at United after the injury in 2013.
@@ardashirtahershiraj7673 ronaldo after that injury was still dribbling players & creating loads of chances. The injury did slow him down a bit but age played a bigger factor of why he is what he is today, 09-18 ronaldo at Madrid was a very complete player & people to say he’s only been a goalscorer his whole career is a crime
@@kilianfolan7303 so annoying,I can’t hold my insults when I see clowns talking thrash about the goat 🐐..Classless fools.Howany footballers in the history of football have done what CR7 has done presently ,None .. People have dribbled better than Messi,Maradona ,Ronaldinho and the likes ..
Thats true he did nothing in the ligue let still the premier league he would ger chewd for sure thats why he never weer out of spain till he get problems at barcelona where he had no choice and what did we see of him at psg nothing nothing he was in the shadow of mbappe and still gets the ballon d or thats 1 things I never understoodd ronaldo proved him self at every top 3 league s come on would could do that appoint me 1 player and at his age he s still better then the average player ronaldo in his 40s is better than this carrageher in his prime what s fucking yoke js this jammie
@@manollomanollo9394 premier league best player Ronaldo joined Spain For 9 years Messi scored 22 more goals and 60 more assist than him Won 5 league top scorer 2 more than premier league best player Ronaldo. He scored 27 goal 6 assist in 36 UCL matches against epl top 6 Ronaldo premier league best player Score 36 goal and 8 assist in 89 matches and played 7-8 season in epl. But still people said Messi can't complete in epl 😂 Henry,Ronaldo, Suarez Premier league best player joined Spain and Messi outshine all of them. So Messi is better players and if he played epl he had better stats than Ronaldo, Henry, Suarez. People said epl player max scored 30-35 goal because it's really hard. But in reality it's not that reason real reason is best player never joined premier league and at that time some good players like Salah and kane scored 30 goal people think it's really hard only 30 goal. In other league top scorer are scored 40 goal so premier league fan are thinking like so other league are easier. But they never saw that world's best player are scored those 40+ goal not some good players like Salah or kane. In last season one of the best player joined premier league at 22 he broke tons of league record.
Messi at 35 won the greatest trophy football has to offer , he is a better player than ronaldo. Can score goals , has a finishing like a god , can dribble blindfolded , can create chances. Respect for Ronaldo , but if you truly love football you cant deny that messi is the best football has to offer , maybe Maradona can be compared to him.
A this point after 8 Ballon'Drs, 2 sportsman of the year awards in all global sporting categories and a world cup trophy that brought together 4 million people shoulder to shoulder to the capital city of Argentina, it is beneath our dignity as honest football fans to continue participating in this debate.
Shut up ..What’s honesty to you ?Stolen ballon Dors ?Scripted wc ?Thrash 😂😂😂..Talking shit ..This is not a debate ,it is simply a matter of interest ..
Yet you always do….those 8 ballon d’ors were not all deserved btw….maybe he deserved six at best…especially in his later years he just won awards just for his name and his past, not because he’s still good.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 Even 6 still sattle's the debate. I'm happy we are landing on the final conclusion in the end. Sportsman of the year I hope you didn't miss that big part.
@@gambu4810 to be honest i only care about the silverware he won with his teams (club or country). The individual awards are mostly just questionable popularity contests with televoting and such…they really have no place in a meritbased sport. (You should research how the ballon d’or is awarded, no one really knows how, the criteria are super vague and disputable and a lot of politics are involved) yes i think messi was the best of his generation, clearly, but he’s been over the hill for a while now (worldcup notwithstanding)
The disrespect. Let’s remember the debate starter before Ronaldo was signed by Madrid when he was performing way better than Messi. And at Madrid there were years Ronaldo was better than Messi, and that’s a fact. This guy just clearly has no respect for Ronaldo.
@@otakuhunter4817 "the dribbler penaldo" he dribbles and scores penalties? Ronaldo has scored 157 pens, Messi has scored 109. a 50 difference. In total Ronaldo scored 867 goals, Messi has scored 821 40 less the the portuguese. also penalties put a lot of pressure on you and you may up skying it.
So what many are still saying is that despite the amount of penalties Ronaldo has scored? Messi is still the more efficient player?? 🤔 LOL Now include assists 🤷🏻♂️
@@StuffieracornBro u just proved his point. CR7 got more penalties and thus got more easier opportunities. CR7 has played more matches than Messi bcuz he started his career earlier.
You mean the same champions league that Ronaldo was playing with Real Madrid with the same Madrid that has 15UCL and Ronaldo collect 4 of them while Messi collected 4 UCL from a Barca team with only 5 in their history…Are you talking about that one because y’all’s underestimate Real Madrid power in Chanpions leagues that why everyone who wants champions league goes to Madrid
@@rohitsaha8264he is the greatest goalscorer of all time stats don't say anything. And when it comes to the greatest player "it depends on the taste of the people"-cr7 when asked if he's the goat. Maybe you prefer messi but it's subjective and there is no answer even cr7 himself knows this
@@rohitsaha8264 I mean he’s the highest goal scorer in champions league, national and club level history so Yh I think he probably is the greatest goal scorer of all time bro lol
This is nonsense. Without playmakers, goals do not get scored. You have to have someone break down defenses to provide opportunities for the person scoring the goal. You just want to ignore a category where CR7 fall woefully short.
I respect Messi but It was never a debate because Cristiano Ronaldo is out of this world. He has done things no other footballer has done. His achievments and accomplishments speak for themselves. Hated by millions, Loved by Billions. A work of art! CR7 is just the GOAT!
all these pessi fans . His success was from bribing officials and rigging games . not from any sort of talent because he has none . she destroyed jamie with this because she knows that ronaldo is the greatest player of all time . pessi is nowhere near even an average player
Ronaldo has got 891 goals > Messi has got 830 Ronaldo has got 66 Hat-tricks > Messi has got 57 Ronaldo has got 149 headers > Messi has 27 Ronaldo has got 5 Champions Leagues > Messi has 4 Ronaldo was top scorer in Premier League and won the League twice > Messi never even played in it
Now lemme prove ur all points wrong Point 1-: Ronaldo has played 110+ matches so obviously he's scoring more 😂😂 Point 2-: Messi has more non penalty hattrick 😂😂 Point 3-: Messi 's height is 5'7 whereas Ronaldo is 6"2 so obviously Ronaldo would score more header don't u have a common sense Now let's compare their dribbling 😂😂 Here pendu is nowhere messi Point 4-: so is it Messi's fault who didn't played in premier league?? Btw Messi has most goals in top 5 European leagues with most assist 😂😂 penaldo runned to camel league to statpadd goals
@cpmc5400 he was class at Utd and tore the prem to pieces. As a winger! He was a ST at Madrid and surrounded by class. Easy to play at Madrid. Look at Jude. Looks like Jesus. Average for England tho.... I don't support Utd. You just have to admit Ronaldo was brilliant
A goal scorer and player is 2 different things , it’s like saying haaland is better than mbappe because he has 100 tap ins and Mbappe has actually beautiful goals
Thank god everyone knows this. The Messi Ronaldo debate is only created by media for personal benefits. People who actually watch football know that Ronaldo is nowhere near Messi.
all pessi did was bribe officials . he isnt even a good player . average at BEST. pessi is one of the most overrated players ever . he cant run he cant score .all he does is bribe people
Ronaldo wasn’t at his peak at United he’s right only won the premier league and champions league in the same year Carragher won 1 champions league amazing career
Messi cant do many thing that ronaldo did in his career, his whole career is by Barcelona for Barcelona Messi is great but not the best footballer He has to go miles from it which he didn't he stayed where he was comfortable. There is no greatest in comfort and he didn't win any champion leauge without inestia behind him. So period
He is crying inside when she said messi called you donkey 😂
No he is not bcuz he is the one who tell people what Messi said to him in a text
Thats why messi is goat.. He realised shit
Messi basically called him an idiot not a donkey
@@Arroyo2003carragher said that Messi messaged him after he said that Messi can’t help psg win the ucl and translated what he said.
@@SKYXR. If called someone burro is basically calling someone an idiot okay and I know because I speak Spanish I am Mexican
Henry's reaction is golden
Because he’s jealous of Ronny
Respect for that women 📈🗿
My respect for jamie after choosing messi 📈🗿👽
Jamie is a donkey world knows even messi knows 😂
@@mightytitan1719 messi calls him donkey and doesn't like him...
Bro ronaldo isn't on messi level
@@miguelcharlton5315 😂😂🤡
Henry's reaction tho 🔥🥶☠️🇫🇷
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Got humbled by a woman
Respect to that woman📈📈
By a women? Woman* and where and who got humbled?
@@anthonylaloggia112 Jamie carrhager
What you talking about?
The woman don’t have, two FA Cups, three League Cups, two Community Shields, one Champions League, one UEFA Cup, and two Super Cups.😂
Embarrassing to lose to a woman
For the wise in football there was never a debate.
It's the truth...
The only comparison was in goal scoring ability.....messi was always the best player.😊
Even the Ronaldo fans who watched football, deep down they knew who was better
Yes it was never a debate comparing a 1 club player vs a versatile,adaptive player. cristiano Netted 100+ goals across england,spain and italy. Meanwhile messi was a flop at france. media will convince messi is a playmaker type shit, go and search at youtube, ronaldo's playmaking, go and see all those brilliant assists that benzema failed to convert as a goal. you guys just look him as a pure goalscorer because of his ridiculous amount of goal number, you dont see whats he's doing on the pitch😂😂
@@personaluse7783😂 brother
Messi joined PSG at 34-35 and his role was as player maker mbappe was the main guy team.
While Ronaldo was striker at that age and people were talking about Ronaldo Juventus was underrated
But they can't see ciro outscored him with Lazio.
And Ronaldo scored 30% of his goal in Juventus were penalty goals.
And if Ronaldo was better than tell me Ronaldo won 5 league top scorer award in 22 year of his career
Messi did that same 5 league top scorer in 9 season when Ronaldo was at real Madrid.
In finals matches
Ronaldo biggest clutch player
Score 20 goal and 2 assist in 35 matches.
Messi scored 34 goal and 17 assist in 49 finals.
(Europe and national team stats)
Ronaldo vs Messi h2h matches
More goals:Messi
More assist: Messi
More g/a: Messi
More rating: Messi
More hat-trick: Messi
More MVP:Messi
More win:messi
Also people talking about Messi goal in friendly match
They not counting Messi goals against Brazil, Uruguay team in friendly
But they are counting Ronaldo goal against so called official matches against 150-200 ranked team.
Ronaldo scored only 7 goal out of his total 128 goal against world cup winning team(England, Italy, France, Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Uruguay, Spain)
While Messi scored 17 goal out of his total 106 goal against world cup winning teams.
Ronaldo 0 g/a in world cup in knock out matches
Messi in last World Cup 8 g/a in knock out matches most by any player.
@@personaluse7783 get well soon man how can you be so delusional
Versatile and adaptive only fits for Messi as he has highest no. assists and highest goal ratio.
Messi has 6 golden boots and Ronaldo has 4
How is he a better goal scorer ?
Learn football first
I agree with caragher
*Cristiano Ronaldo is a LEGEND. His records tells his legacy. He played for 3 different clubs and smashed records there. And then, came back to his former club Man Utd despite having a weak side he led his club on his own and guess what! Finished 2nd in the top scorer ranking with 19 goals.*
*Question: How many clubs Messi played for and how good he performed there?*
*The answer is one PSG and he failed there despite having world class players backing him. He didn't perform as expected. He was good at Barcelona because he had a tough side backing him.*
*Proof: When FIFA boy' Messi was called for to came back to Barcelona, he denied because a lot of talented players already left the club and he knew he couldn't led the team on his own and what legacy he created there will be destroy in a single season.*
*So, Haters have some football sense before talking and show huge respect to the G.O.A.T = C.R.7*
@@maxpayne4788 "ARGENTINA HAS WON TO 2022 FIFA WORLD CUP, THE LITTLE BOY FROM ROSARIO SANTA FE HAS PITCHED UP IN HEVEAN"
I think jamie got a really good point, the fact that he chooses messi after he called him a donkey really shows he isn’t bias about messi :)
Ronaldo ignored him .
@@alacsn3266 getting called a donkey is way worse than being ignored
True
@@rayquazaplays4541face to face?😂😂😂
he definitely has some sort of bias to say that it's not even close, especially how he completely ignores all of Ronaldo's acheivements and claims that Ronaldo is just a "goalscorer"
Jamie is right. There was never a debate
in robbing
Pessi is greatest at robbing😂
Pessi
Another donkey
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As a Real fan myself, I hate the facts that messi is the Goat, but it's facts.
W, I like barca but RM is the goat club fr💯
@@RScatter of course Real is the Goat club 💪💪💪
I swear you are a Barca fan
@@Hassan-rg7tz me? Or the other guy in comment
Messi is objectively the GOAT player.
Real are objectively the GOAT club.
You can have your preference, but the facts are not up for debate.
"It was never a debate".
Exactly Carra 👌
Yes because ronaldo is better
@@EV1LFR0 WC knockout goals 💀😭😂
@@mikelbaningo6407 1 hattrick wc 😭
@@EV1LFR 1 WC trophy 😭
5 ucl😭
That's why never compare greatest goalscorers to greatest player
The guy who spits at kids yeh 😂
Idk wtf is a goalscorer he is a doctor on the field? Isn't a goalscorer also a football player at the end
@@Natsu9570FT if you don't know the difference don't choose between them otherwise go and learn what is the difference or go and watch anime 🤣
@@SSGAMER977 Children who only know CR7 as a goalscorer always amuse me 🤣
@@08BostonCeltics1 have you ever heard messi said as a greatest goalscorer
Carraghar is spot on .
Nah he’s a fraud he’s also a fraud as a footballer
@@Kingmus3bkeep crying buddy messi trumps ronaldo in everything he plays in a harder national team he has less nations that he can stat pad on lmao 4 ucl carried a world cup and 7 ballon dors and your mr ucl has a worse goal ratio in the ucl compared to messi and has a worse ovr rating compared to messi
@@arkaan.zomei2023 wdym a harder national team bro Ronaldo would win 2 world cups if he was Argentinian 💀
@@arkaan.zomei2023 the last time Messi won a ucl is a decade ago and he got destroyed against Bayern 8-2 that could never be Ronaldo
@@arkaan.zomei2023 if Messi was Portuguese he wouldn’t even touch the euro trophy
People are jealous when they can't reach your level 😂
Obviously that's why ronaldo is always jealous of Messi
@@mightytitan1719 bro what 😂? I must say messi is jealous or obsessed with ronaldo. Didn't you watch the boateng and rio ferdinand podcast? He asked boateng whether he could score more goals in Serie A. 😂Lol
@@prasadsawant7ah yes asking how hard it is to score in Series A is peak jealousy. Ronaldo made childish comments about the last 3 ballon d'or messi won. Ronaldo's entire family is obsessed with messi.
@@yagisat066 really? 😂 If a person laughs on a comment, does that mean he is obsessed with messi? Or he is laughing on the system is rigged?
@@prasadsawant7 bro's living in his own delusion lol,what a lame ass punk!!
Huge respect for carraghar
Weird clown
No wonder you're Hindu
Jamie doesn't deserve respect!
he is a clown and a person who respects a clown is also a clown.
I agree carraghar deserves more respect for doing his job as a clown 🤡 perfectly. Deserves a raise from the circus frfr
“You know it still call me a donkey and I’m still going for Messi” that’s why he called you a donkey in the first place
😂😂👊🏽
No it was because he’s critics against PSG messi mbappe and neymar
He is right. It was never a debate at all
Ik ronaldo is clear
It is a matter of preference.
Whenever I see a debate about these 2 it always appears 51% ronaldo 49% Messi but for me it's 100% maradona, Messi isn't even close to him
@@corbe1970ify The vast majority of current players, ex-players, managers and experts say Messi.
Among younger fans, it might be more even between them. Some older fans seem to choose Pele or Maradona.
Yeah
Jamie just hates Ronaldo because of United and he got dominated by him in his playing days
Henry's face😂😂😂
“Carragher ended the comparison between Messi and Ronaldo”
It’s should have been like “Ronaldo and Messi ended the career of Carraghar”😂😂😂
It was a debate because of the Spanish media trying to sell papers, Messi is a technical marvel. He has the accolades,the stats, the eye test, and the story.
Sure bud
Messi can do no wrong to the media. Ronaldo is hated because he is a confident and openly proud about his achievements. A confident masculine role model who emphasizes hard work is ALWAYS going to be hated by the media. The general media does not think that is feminist and wont support proper male role models.
the meatriding is insane in these comments😂😂
Nah bro that’s just cap it was back and forth for years every year they levelled each other up there’s no way messi would be as good as he is without ronaldo being there to push him vice Versa and that’s facts! You need that as a sportsman or you’ll relax Ronaldo at he’s peak could control a game just as much as Messi could you see it in the El Classicos they played vs one another people just disrespect Ronaldo for no reason I would say Messi just edges it but to say it wasn’t even close is complete disrespect
Not everyone can accept the fact 😂
Jamie is a donkey world knows even messi knows 😂
That he’s a fraud
CR7 is the perfect horse for man. A magnificent jumper, worker, military etc. Messi is the essence of a free horse in it’s purest form roaming the prairies, as a free spirit.
TT's face explains a lot cause he knows who is , Hello I am Cristiano Ronaldo
Tt said Messi is better
Bro i am a messi fan, but this guy is just a trash talker, he still has the highest amounts of own goals in the premier league history, this guy got destroyed by rono countless times in pl, and what not then got knocked out in the wc by him, calling rono only a goal scorer showed his trash ball knowledge, dont get me messi is the greatest, but his guy is just biased against rono
He is speaking facts
Serie A, epl, spain ,saudi and winning trophies everywhere he is in so shhhh🫢
messi 44 trophy ronaldo 35.messi is clear
Got a Ballon dor at United. What is spitty waffling about now
He wasnt even in his prime in utd and yet won ballondor and is still last prem player to win balondor levels
Bro almost completed club football in 2008 😂😂
@@DANIELCOOPER_7YEARSAGOhe hasn’t completed football till this date bro , what are you talking!?
Yes but how does that prove he's better than Messi. CR7 is the greatest goalscorer. Messi is more of a complete player.
@@PantheraGoat I imagine your statement stems from WC. Read his comment again: CLUB* football 🤡
Won more Balon D'or awards when he was at Real Madrid. Carra is right.
Carra hate manc utd with a passion ❤😂😅😂
Lop just because Ronald snubbed Him now he is all salty lol
Messi fears the premier league😂
Messi never played in pl
Still have more goals against big 6 premier league teams than Ronaldo lol 😂
Greatest of all time 🐐
Ronaldo: Ignored him in person 😅😂😅😂
Carra's friend is right, he just doesn't like Ronaldo
Obi mikel has the same opinion. Guardiola, Capello and van Basten also.
@@BBB-ajajaj
What? Guardiola shares that opinion? I’m shook, literally shook
It's not close. Messi is the GOAT and the debate is over since the World Cup but for everyone who knows Football it was over 14 years ago.
@@aaronkeane4914me to im shookedeth
@@robertmusil1107 you're pushing it way too far dude. Also its funny how now that messi won international trophies everyone is saying debate is over, before they were saying that messi doesn't need international trophies 😂
CR7 dribbled past carra so many times...he still ptsd
Jamie...can show ur league medal plz?
😂😂😂
Jamie seems to be the type of guy with which you become friends after the first 5min of knowing him
Nah
It was never a debate someone's salty( im not a cr7 or messi fanboy both are goats)
Johnny Evans has more PL medals than Carra...
Divock origi and Milan baros have more champions league than Eric Cantona
@@dman9152 Nicky Butt and Jaap Stam have more trebles than Steven Gerrard..
Why is she asking the question if she can’t handle the answer lmfao love the dudes optimism and comeback 😂
“Ronaldo wasn’t in his prime at united” bro does this guy watch football? Yes ronaldo was at his prime in Real Madrid aswell but united aswell. And this guy should give up talking shit abt ronaldo Messi called him a donkey Ronaldo ignored him. Bro got humbled by the woman real quick
Carra is 1000% correct….Messi is another level to anyone
Still he chooses Messi(World Champion) 🇦🇷🐐
Ronaldo is miles clear. Anybody who watches football knows
Bro got humbled by a woman ☠️
Cry baby cry
Ronaldo is the best player ever
You can hate him and say nonsense about him but the world have eyes
Messi won the World Cup and 8th ballon dor yet he’s crying around for not being recognized enough
That tells how fake it is
He can’t do anything out of Barcelona
Its not close tbh…
The media just pushed that thing….
Messi is pure football…
Kid don’t talk u started watching after 2022 World Cup if u think it was a media thing like get a brain loser they were literally in rival teams
yeah clown whatever
Listen, let's just say ronaldo depends on teammates' messi teammates, depending on him. Stop acting like a fool it's annoying real Madrid. Do all work, then ronaldo gets top in or pen and gets all the praise. Anything that has to do with votes ronaldo would more like to win once it has to do with actual football stats. messi will win. Have some sense
@@miguelcharlton5315 you yourself should have some sense. How can you be so dumb and ignorant? do you even watch football or just hate Ronaldo blindly? What has messi done outside of Barca?Who were Messi's teammates in his debut? Have you seen Ronaldo's teammates? Messi won nothing outside of Barca except the d'or which haland deserved and the wc with the help of yk who.
@@miguelcharlton5315 u watch football through reels kiddo Ronaldo literally carried Real Madrid with clutch goals many times and tapin? Ronaldo had more outside the box goals than messi also during his time at Madrid ronaldo actually had more free kicks than messi too but hey u wouldn’t know that u weren’t even born back then loser messi fan
Messi is at least 10 times better than cr7. Messi is the GOD OF FOOTBALL 🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐👽👽👽👽.
Guys he is right u know that don't you ?
Anyone is actually thinks ronaldo was just a pure goal scorer in his prime years needs to go get a check up at a doctors, it was still maybe 2019- present is pretty much just a pure goalscorer & bit of a poacher
Exactly hahah
Bro after 2014 CR7 pretty much turned into the main goalscorer of Real Madrid. Benzema was kind of a false-9 and allowed CR7 to play more like a striker. Plus CR7 couldn't dribble like he did at United after the injury in 2013.
@@ardashirtahershiraj7673 ronaldo after that injury was still dribbling players & creating loads of chances. The injury did slow him down a bit but age played a bigger factor of why he is what he is today, 09-18 ronaldo at Madrid was a very complete player & people to say he’s only been a goalscorer his whole career is a crime
@@kilianfolan7303 so annoying,I can’t hold my insults when I see clowns talking thrash about the goat 🐐..Classless fools.Howany footballers in the history of football have done what CR7 has done presently ,None ..
People have dribbled better than Messi,Maradona ,Ronaldinho and the likes ..
No one said Ronaldo cudnt play he just can't play to Messis level, bar Maradona who can
Carragher's knowledge at the very best
It is true. It was never a debate. Messi has always been on the next level
Stick to cricket,indian,Ronaldo has always been better,did it in the top 3 leagues,messi would get chewed out in the prem if he played for long
Thats true he did nothing in the ligue let still the premier league he would ger chewd for sure thats why he never weer out of spain till he get problems at barcelona where he had no choice and what did we see of him at psg nothing nothing he was in the shadow of mbappe and still gets the ballon d or thats 1 things I never understoodd ronaldo proved him self at every top 3 league s come on would could do that appoint me 1 player and at his age he s still better then the average player ronaldo in his 40s is better than this carrageher in his prime what s fucking yoke js this jammie
@@maqsoodakram7916guy has 27 goals against the big 6 without even playing there
@@manollomanollo9394 premier league best player
Ronaldo joined Spain
For 9 years
Messi scored 22 more goals and 60 more assist than him
Won 5 league top scorer 2 more than premier league best player Ronaldo.
He scored 27 goal 6 assist in 36 UCL matches against epl top 6
Ronaldo premier league best player
Score 36 goal and 8 assist in 89 matches and played 7-8 season in epl.
But still people said Messi can't complete in epl 😂
Henry,Ronaldo, Suarez
Premier league best player joined Spain and Messi outshine all of them.
So Messi is better players and if he played epl he had better stats than Ronaldo, Henry, Suarez.
People said epl player max scored 30-35 goal because it's really hard.
But in reality it's not that reason real reason is best player never joined premier league and at that time some good players like Salah and kane scored 30 goal people think it's really hard only 30 goal.
In other league top scorer are scored 40 goal so premier league fan are thinking like so other league are easier.
But they never saw that world's best player are scored those 40+ goal not some good players like Salah or kane.
In last season one of the best player joined premier league at 22 he broke tons of league record.
@@nvmber10 oke even ronaldo has more goals against neuer compared to messi 2 he scored 10 if you offside oke 8 still better
Messi at psg. Wouldn’t get in uniteds team now
Ronaldo at 35 was in the champions league and winning in Europe in Italy what the comparison Messi at 35 mls retirement
Messi at 35 won the greatest trophy football has to offer , he is a better player than ronaldo.
Can score goals , has a finishing like a god , can dribble blindfolded , can create chances.
Respect for Ronaldo , but if you truly love football you cant deny that messi is the best football has to offer , maybe Maradona can be compared to him.
Won World cup mate. And again with these trophies. For GOD's trophies are team achievements. Messi or CR7 didn't win trophies alone.
Completed football at the age of 35
He just doesn’t like Ronaldo cos he’s an old United player
If Messi is one of the best player is because of what he did in football but not his talent so ronaldo is the best
Henry: 😧
CR7 the GREATEST EVER MESSI NOT EVEN CLOSE
Messi and benzema both called him brainless actually
Bro called Ronaldo “it”
The 🐐 say. Suuuuuiii baby
And i thought henry hated ronaldo
carragher least unbiased pundit
Ronaldo destroyed most of these pundits.
A this point after 8 Ballon'Drs, 2 sportsman of the year awards in all global sporting categories and a world cup trophy that brought together 4 million people shoulder to shoulder to the capital city of Argentina, it is beneath our dignity as honest football fans to continue participating in this debate.
😂
Shut up ..What’s honesty to you ?Stolen ballon Dors ?Scripted wc ?Thrash 😂😂😂..Talking shit ..This is not a debate ,it is simply a matter of interest ..
Yet you always do….those 8 ballon d’ors were not all deserved btw….maybe he deserved six at best…especially in his later years he just won awards just for his name and his past, not because he’s still good.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 Even 6 still sattle's the debate. I'm happy we are landing on the final conclusion in the end. Sportsman of the year I hope you didn't miss that big part.
@@gambu4810 to be honest i only care about the silverware he won with his teams (club or country). The individual awards are mostly just questionable popularity contests with televoting and such…they really have no place in a meritbased sport. (You should research how the ballon d’or is awarded, no one really knows how, the criteria are super vague and disputable and a lot of politics are involved)
yes i think messi was the best of his generation, clearly, but he’s been over the hill for a while now (worldcup notwithstanding)
He's trying to get the numbers using Ronaldo's name
The disrespect. Let’s remember the debate starter before Ronaldo was signed by Madrid when he was performing way better than Messi. And at Madrid there were years Ronaldo was better than Messi, and that’s a fact. This guy just clearly has no respect for Ronaldo.
You're a nice blend of cope and delusion
he never performed better than Messi.😂
The dribbler penaldo in ManU dribbled less than Messi .
@@otakuhunter4817 "the dribbler penaldo" he dribbles and scores penalties? Ronaldo has scored 157 pens, Messi has scored 109. a 50 difference. In total Ronaldo scored 867 goals, Messi has scored 821 40 less the the portuguese. also penalties put a lot of pressure on you and you may up skying it.
So what many are still saying is that despite the amount of penalties Ronaldo has scored? Messi is still the more efficient player?? 🤔 LOL
Now include assists 🤷🏻♂️
@@StuffieracornBro u just proved his point. CR7 got more penalties and thus got more easier opportunities. CR7 has played more matches than Messi bcuz he started his career earlier.
Jamie donkey, the one who has scored the most in own goals in PL history. Ronaldo shoes > Jamie whole career
If he's the goat he should beat ronaldo in champion league and he just can't even in assist and goal
You mean the same champions league that Ronaldo was playing with Real Madrid with the same Madrid that has 15UCL and Ronaldo collect 4 of them while Messi collected 4 UCL from a Barca team with only 5 in their history…Are you talking about that one because y’all’s underestimate Real Madrid power in Chanpions leagues that why everyone who wants champions league goes to Madrid
Cristiano is the greatest goal scorer of all time that’s not a debate at all and messi is the greatest player of all time no debate
And messi has the better goal ratio ronaldo played 100+ more game than messi.
How the hell Messi has better goal ratio then 😂😂😂
Ronaldo is ONE Of the greatest goalscorers not the greatest brother
@@rohitsaha8264he is the greatest goalscorer of all time stats don't say anything. And when it comes to the greatest player "it depends on the taste of the people"-cr7 when asked if he's the goat. Maybe you prefer messi but it's subjective and there is no answer even cr7 himself knows this
@@rohitsaha8264 I mean he’s the highest goal scorer in champions league, national and club level history so Yh I think he probably is the greatest goal scorer of all time bro lol
I think Football has always been about Goal scoring, just like Jinpachi Ego said.
Idk why some people prioritize and glorifies the play making.
This is nonsense. Without playmakers, goals do not get scored. You have to have someone break down defenses to provide opportunities for the person scoring the goal. You just want to ignore a category where CR7 fall woefully short.
dumbest shit i’ve ever read
Funnily enough the only time Carragher and Messi played each other was in the 06/07 Champions League and Carragher won 🤣
I respect Messi but It was never a debate because Cristiano Ronaldo is out of this world. He has done things no other footballer has done. His achievments and accomplishments speak for themselves. Hated by millions, Loved by Billions. A work of art! CR7 is just the GOAT!
It's the other way Lmao😂 bro really flipped the switch💀
Bullshit
For the purest fans, Messi always wins
all these pessi fans . His success was from bribing officials and rigging games . not from any sort of talent because he has none . she destroyed jamie with this because she knows that ronaldo is the greatest player of all time . pessi is nowhere near even an average player
Even women know football
Just because Ronaldo ignored him hahahaha
Who is Carragher??? Wasn't even a starter for the English National team...🌚🌚🌚🥵🥵🥵
he's a liverpool legend so shut up
He's better than you
Who@@Bliss_itsme
bro thinks he is better than ronaldo so he can say that sh*t lol
Jamie carragher
I agree with jamie
He doesn't like ronaldo and real madrid because ronaldo and real madrid kicked his team so many times and also ronaldo ignored him
Ronaldinho was the top of all times with Pele.
Cristiano > Messi
Messi be like to jamie: take some coins donkey and hold me up 😂😂😂.
henry in his mind(damn that girl destroyed this guy with 2 sentence 😂)
Ronaldo has got 891 goals > Messi has got 830
Ronaldo has got 66 Hat-tricks > Messi has got 57
Ronaldo has got 149 headers > Messi has 27
Ronaldo has got 5 Champions Leagues > Messi has 4
Ronaldo was top scorer in Premier League and won the League twice > Messi never even played in it
"Ronaldo is the goat cause he won euro messi didn't" ahh argument😂
Now lemme prove ur all points wrong
Point 1-: Ronaldo has played 110+ matches so obviously he's scoring more 😂😂
Point 2-: Messi has more non penalty hattrick 😂😂
Point 3-: Messi 's height is 5'7 whereas Ronaldo is 6"2 so obviously Ronaldo would score more header don't u have a common sense
Now let's compare their dribbling 😂😂
Here pendu is nowhere messi
Point 4-: so is it Messi's fault who didn't played in premier league?? Btw Messi has most goals in top 5 European leagues with most assist 😂😂 penaldo runned to camel league to statpadd goals
lol stupid ass penaldo fan
Won a Ballon Dor at Utd
Pls someone get this deluded, biased, spitting mess off our screens!!!!
And he won multiple at Madrid, what's your point? He was absolutely not at his best at United. He improved at Madrid.
@cpmc5400 he was class at Utd and tore the prem to pieces. As a winger!
He was a ST at Madrid and surrounded by class. Easy to play at Madrid. Look at Jude. Looks like Jesus. Average for England tho....
I don't support Utd. You just have to admit Ronaldo was brilliant
@@danfair10 He was, and that's why he won the Balon d'Or. Doesn't mean he was at his prime, which he wasn't. He was much, much better at Madrid.
How old are you? Don’t talk about football when you haven’t watched games since 2005
@@rzuaneK91 what are u on about???
Fool
Jamie is right after 2012 it was never close 91 goals ended the debate.I love Ronaldo though his great
Carragher still salty about 2006 penalty kicks hahaha
Messi was in the GOAT debate with pele and Maradona at 23. The media debate ended on December 18. Messi won , Goat debate done and dusted.
WC
Messi 1
Pelé 3
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@lesguuuuuuu Pelé Goat, Messi best player in history 👍
A goal scorer and player is 2 different things , it’s like saying haaland is better than mbappe because he has 100 tap ins and Mbappe has actually beautiful goals
People don't get serious.... Roanldo's name is bigger than all of them sitting there combined😂....
What does it have to do with Messi vs Ronaldo argument? 😂
i can tell your feelings are hurt
Thierry Henry is sitting there 😂😂😂
Pendu fans 😂😂😂😂😂
@@HARDY4006ronaldos name is is bigger than his dumb😂
So they cant talk and make comparison because Ronaldo is bigger than them.Very sad statement,
She is cooking aginst him🤯
I think hes hit it on the head Ronaldo an awesome goal scorer but messi an all round player
Shameless Carragher 😂
Thank god everyone knows this. The Messi Ronaldo debate is only created by media for personal benefits. People who actually watch football know that Ronaldo is nowhere near Messi.
all pessi did was bribe officials . he isnt even a good player . average at BEST. pessi is one of the most overrated players ever . he cant run he cant score .all he does is bribe people
he's right. that only means he's not biased
Ronaldo wasn’t at his peak at United he’s right only won the premier league and champions league in the same year
Carragher won 1 champions league amazing career
Messi cant do many thing that ronaldo did in his career, his whole career is by Barcelona for Barcelona
Messi is great but not the best footballer
He has to go miles from it which he didn't he stayed where he was comfortable.
There is no greatest in comfort and he didn't win any champion leauge without inestia behind him.
So period