Don't Buy A GEN3 Dodge Viper Before You Watch This Video!!! Plus replacing Spark Plug Wires
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- This is a video on how to replace the spark plug wires, remove the intake manifold, or simply to get access to the ignition coil packs. It is also a warning for those considering a Viper, especially a GEN3. The warning is for those that enjoy working on their cars. The GEN3 Vipers has the ignition coils underneath the air intake manifold which is very cumbersome to remove to gain access to the coil parks and ignition wires. Just some advice before you decide. Watch before you buy! Thanks for watching!
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I feel your pain,had a bad wire on mine so I bought a set from roe racing, I also installed the available hi rpm coils, pulled it apart like you said, i used 2 broom sticks to keep intake just above block to re run all the injector wires thru all the holes, my savior was what I call a "water letter outer" extension(from three stooges)long skinny hand spin extension right to small socket that fit thru all the access holes, 20 min to pull apart, need to watch metal gasket not to damage, my hardest part of the job was to put on the heat guards on new wires, screw the wire holders since new wires were 8.5 mm which are larger than stock, have red wires, used red zip ties and it looks very neat, like you said mark each one before you pull them off
frank reinhardt glad to hear it went smoother than mine lol. I really wish there was a kit to do the G4 conversion at a reasonable price.
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Just ordered some replacement OEM cables for my Gen 3, this video is exactly what I needed for the install. Thanks!
Awesome! Good luck with the install. Some people do the wires without removing the intake. They remove all the plastics in the rear and just fish the wires from the back by the firewall. If you do remove the intake please be super careful with all the intake bolts that they don't fall in the intakes. Good luck!
I own a gen 2 viper and a 2005 Ram Srt10 (same engine that is spoken of in this video). Gen 2 and gen 3 both use full length ignition wires unlike 4th and 5th gen but the gen 2 coil packs are more easily accessible to replace the wires. The gen 3 coil packs, as stated in vid, is mounted underneath the intake manifold which is admittingly ridiculous. I personally don't understand why they didn't mount them similar to gen 2. That said, it is a service that is doable in a garage without a paid mechanic. It will take much more time than a standard wire replacement but if this is your dream car and a gen 4 or 5 is too expensive, I would not let this maintenance issue get in your way of purchase. Understand that all vehicles have one issue or another that you will have to deal with. That's part of being a gear head. Buy what you love, love what you buy, accept her flaws and deal with them accordingly because none of them are perfect. Cheers.
Well said. My purpose was definitely not to disuade anyone from a G3. But definitely something to think about. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for making this informative Viper review 👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
Gracias! for your very informative video, I'm in the process of researching any issues with the gen 3 before purchasing.
Carlos Rivera SOLARPR glad you liked it, Carlos! Good Luck with the research.
Jose, I don't have any prior experience with a viper, please before purchasing and, if you have the time I would like to have your advice about some issues with the car. my phone is 787-373-1962.
Great video and thank you for posting. Could you also post the spark plug replacement video you mentioned on your video? Thanks so much!
Great video and advice. Was about to buy a Gen 3. Now going to look at Gen 4's based on your video. Plus 4's have another 100 horses.
Yeah the GEN3 is a great Viper still, and much cheaper than 4s, but not being able to easily do your wires is a pita. Also, the GEN 4s have better oil pickups, GEN5s are still the best design for oil pickup, but the GEN3s suffer badly from oil starvation in the turns, which leads to premature rod bearing failures as it happened to me.
I appreciate the heads up! I'm set on a 3G Viper GTS and I'm learning as much info as I can until I can take one home!
Glad it helped you out, Ben! They are amazing cars no doubt, and by no means am I trying to dissuade anyone from getting one. Just giving everyone a heads up if you DIY on your cars like I do. Thanks for stopping by!
Good video. I have a Gen 2 which is easier to change wires because the coil pack is behind the intake manifold. You do have to remove the cowl though.
Rick S I wish mine was like that. I don’t change plug wires that often, but just knowing what it takes makes me cringe. Thanks for watching!
@@DeeperImageAutomotive I hear ya,I did the same maintenance on mine.
I have a GEN three I have about 18,000 miles on the car was it worth supercharging it would you do it again my brother has an Audi R8 V 10+2017 I’m thinking if I’m not super charged he’d be taking me in fact I think he take me even if I was what do you guys think
I personally can't imagine this car without it. The blower really puts it on par with some of the newer cars out there to just be able to keep up. With that said, 500HP is plenty on this car and I know other owners without blowers that absolutely enjoy and love their Vipers.
Venom black or copperhead orange when its time i cant wait!!
Beautiful colors indeed. I always wanted the GTS blue with the white stripes, but there are so many great color combos out there. Cheers!
It does suck and is excessive for simple wire or coil change. But this isn’t the hardest thing out there. Took me about two days taking my time and drinking plenty of beer in the process.
Haha for sure!
Looking at purchasing a gen 3. Mostly cause of price and gen 2 part availability seems worse. If wires need replacement I’m not doing them. Lol
They are amazing cars. Prices have gone up quite a bit now because of the crazy market, but hopefully cools off a little. I have seen some folks do the wires without removing the intake, by taking off the cowling around the windshield and removing the wipers, so they can get their hands through the back of the intake close to the firewall. Never tried it though.
@@DeeperImageAutomotive thanks! I thought I'd get one now before they go even crazier in value. I just sold a mint S2k for $10k more than what I paid 2 years ago.
@@gigatron2008 I just got my gen 3 2 weeks ago....I once had a S2k as well....oh gosh you are gunna love it! I wish i had bought one sooner.
@@ehiracheta Nice! I ended up buying a 01' RT/10 for a pretty good price last week. It's so much more car than a s2k! So glad I made the switch.
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I have an 06 Viper Ram, the motor is gone at 64,000 miles. To rebuild will cost me 11K. I am done with this vehicle. I did not go hard on my truck either.
Yeah sadly they suffer from oil starvation which causes premature failure of the rod bearings on most. Sorry to hear man. Look around the groups and forums or eBay. Sometimes you find a used motor for about 5k vs rebuilding it.
I hear you brother. I have an 06 CC and man I replaced everything and I rebuilt engines and transmissions in the past. Mine has over 200 k on it and the only problem now is the transmission which is the weak link.
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I’ve already bought a 3rd gen tho
You’ll love it!
Hi at how many miles did you replace them
I'm assuming you are talking about the wires? I was the 3rd owner of this Viper, so I'm not sure if the wires had previously been changed, but they definitely looked old. I replaced them at less than 23,000 miles, but again I'm not sure if the 2 previous owners had replaced the original ones.
Yes I was referring to the wires and spark plugs. I see so you replaced them just because you weren't sure but not because you had to right?
I'm going to buy one out of a dealership so my guess is that maybe they already checked all that. Any advice on what I should look at before I buy it
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With your money you should have just brought it to your mechanic pass on the headache
The gen 3 viper is by far one of the easiest cars i have ever worked on. If you regret buying a 3rd gen because you think the wires are hard then this (and any other car) is not the car for you to work on your self. Took maybe an hour tops top replace coils with Demon coils and JTSVP wires and that is with entirely removing the intake plenum.
TWNTRBOZ In most cars (or other gen Vipers) you don’t have to remove an intake plenum and that’s my point. It isn’t hard to do, but it takes time and if you’re not careful you can easily drop things in the engine that can cause severe damage. So you’re complete wrong in saying any other car. And this is the car for me, I own it.
@@DeeperImageAutomotive my comment was referring to the videos tone of a gen 3 being hard to work on due to coil location and how difficult removal of the upper plenum is. I don't think for the average person such an issue should deter them from purchasing one as its not really that hard or time consuming. when I do these I remove the plenum rather than just lift it. makes it easy. I am glad to see other owners working on these. they are simple built cars that should not scare people. congrats on owning this one. Mine is also Gen 3 (06 coupe) that is daily driven. reliability is great with these. I am now over 140k and climbing!
-side note, Nice flag and toolbox. I have the same ones.
@@TWNTRBOZ Yeah I get the point that it isn't hard, especially for someone with the right tools, and experience working on cars. I really just wanted to let people know that may be in the market for them just an FYI, was not trying to be negative about one, perhaps it came across that way. I do love my G3 and hope to keep it forever since I've replaced everything on it, including the engine. They are incredibly fun, and very few cars like it on the market. Thanks for the feedback!
I bought a Viper to drive and enjoy, not to replaced parts and complaint, also there are " Viper Techs"
I drive mine all the time and work on all my cars all the time, including the Viper. The video is to inform people that are interested in GEN3 Vipers, as well as people like me that enjoy working on cars, what some of the design flaws are. If you enjoy paying Viper techs the Viper Tax/Premium, it's your money, and you're certainly entitled to spend it how you wish. Just like this is my Viper and my money, and I too am allowed to spend it how I want. Thanks for stopping by!
Thanks Jose. Great video.
Some people find this informative. If someone doesn't care about maintenance, maybe he shouldn't be watching this video in the first place. Silly. It's too easy to go somewhere else.
I use to have a gen 3. I didn't have it long enough to change the spark plugs. If I had it longer (car accident) I would have tried to change the plugs myself.
I see that paxton in there. That explains why u went with the gen 3 over the gen 4. I had a paxton also. Big deciding factor.
I like working on my cars too and it's frustrating looking at this video for something as simple as spark plugs. Lol. Big job.
Ope too late
Congrats on the new car!
Man THANK YOU for this video! I have had a lot of cars, and just test drove a gen 3 yesterday and this is just what I needed. Thank you so much sir! 🫡🤙🏾
Glad it could help. Still a fantastic car, but just wanted people to know what to expect. Some guys can do the wire swap by removing all the trim around the windshield and reaching from behind the intake, but still pretty hard to see and reach
@@DeeperImageAutomotive i fell in love with the mechanical raw nature of them and likely will pick up a Gen3 within a month or so. Selling my Lexus LC and dailying a ‘24 M4 so I need the non video game, manual transmission energy!
Too late
Congrats on the Viper!
@@DeeperImageAutomotive 😁Thanks!