Would We Attend a Gay Wedding?
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- Опубликовано: 5 мар 2024
- A well-known pastor and radio host recently came under fire for his public opinion on attending the wedding of a same-sex couple, and it got the Perrys talking. How can you be faithful to Jesus while caring for and honoring people? This conversation starts at the foundation of the issue: knowing what you believe about God and marriage before discerning your ‘yes’ or your ‘no.'
Resources:
1: Christianity Today, "Alistair Begg Meets the Politically Correct": www.christianitytoday.com/ct/...
2: Does the Bible Support Same-Sex Marriage? by Preston Sprinkle: amzn.to/48CW921
3: Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry: amzn.to/49uDbMu
4: Finding the Right Hills to Die On by Gavin Ortlund: amzn.to/3wv8Gax
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“Know what you believe before you try to discern what to do.” - JHP 💯
WOW😮
💯 FACTS!
Back when I was an unbeliever…I remember inviting my Christian coworker to my baby shower. She told me she couldn’t go because I was having a baby out of wedlock (she was nice but direct)..her telling me that, made me look at my situation as sinful/not ideal/not cute for the first time..I didnt realize it back then but her declining my invitation planted a seed that would later grow into faith
Wow! 🥰. I love this testimony. So much to think about. God bless you.
So you got judged and allowed that to bother you 😭🤔 what is going on
I did not attend one of my sisters wedding, she didn’t like the fact that I didn’t attend but she understood my stance. The amazing thing, before I gave my life to Christ, she actually was one to talk to me about the Lord. So she knows what the Bible says about that. I love her dearly, but I love the Lord more!
“I love the Lord more”… love this!!
Amen! Its God over everybody!
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Awesome, in my opinion when gay people call themselves getting married, I see them as having a ceremony. It’s not a marriage where God is present.
I discern something not so positive about Jackie. Her reactions and behavior towards her husband is questionably cringing. Not just the interruptions when he speaks (he interrupts her too), but the disrespect and argumentative tone.
Edit: Perry must feel defeated sometimes having conversations with Jackie. She’s right and he’s wrong. I envision him attempting to make her happy, but her not making the same effort. I envision him affirming her often, but she putting him down more.
If your family member loves you, they wouldn’t ask you to compromise. They would understand and honor your belief/convictions. I personally can’t dishonor God over trying to honor a family member. I love the piece about having the conversation. But to be present, is consent, affirmation, support, and agreement and unless you are there protesting- there’s no way you can disassociate from it.
This is so very well spoken. My family suffered the loss of a daughter because we refused to celebrate or attend her gay wedding. Our reasons were and remain biblical. It is painful no doubt but we prefer to see Jesus in peace as good and faithful servants.
Not we had this WHOLE conversation for Preston to say he is not going 😂😂😂 great convo!
SPOILER ALERT!!!!! 😭
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😂right
REALLY?! spoil
😂😂😂😂😂 Like man why you playing
1 Thessalonians 5:22 says “Abstain from all appearance of evil…” I am becoming extremely worried about why us as followers of Christ feel the need to discuss/explain “why” we cannot do things that are NOT of God, considering that being an explanation in itself. We are in this world not of it yet there’s so much compromise and appeasement of those in the world. Providing support for sinful actions can possibly enable them. What is pleasing to my Lord is pleasing to me, plain and simple.
Yes!
Clarity came to me on this topic and I heard “If it’s lead by God”. Often as humans we can conform God to our ways and limits but Isaiah 40:28-29 speaks about how as humans we can never comprehend fully. It may not make sense to us but it doesn’t have to. God has an aerial view. I would NOT go on my own but if God said go and do…., do you think I would abstain because of how it looks? Jesus (literally) met sinners where they were and while I am not Jesus he is my example.
@monique4520 You're right, sis. He meets us where we are. He is loving and holy. He'll never engage in our sins with us, but He'll always meet us where we are welcoming us to come unto to Him. In listening to Him, we can always look to His word. I love you sis.❤
Amen
I love you as well. Be blessed ❤️😘
I didn’t attend my child’s wedding, she knows where I stand. One of the toughest decision I’ve ever had to make in my walk with Christ. I most definitely love her and she’s knows that. Is the relationship strained? Yup, we speak as much as she allows. I’ve had to place our relationship in the hand of the Lord.
Isaiah 59:1 💜
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I wouldn't be able to attend my daughter's wedding either so I do understand ✝️
Thank you Jesus Christ! you are not alone my sister my… you said it just the way the holy leading spirit had you to say it thank you Jesus Christ ❤
This made me sad. Sending love to your child. I don't think Christ would approve of your extremely hurtful decision. My heart hurts. I attended my child's gay wedding because I love her and, quite frankly, it had no adverse impact on my relationship with Jesus. It just showed my child how much I love her. I think actions speak louder than words when showing our children we love them.
Thank you for this conversation. My son is in a same sex relationship and he knows where I stand. He was once in the church and says he still believes and is a Christian. I know he’s confused and the enemy lies to him about his identity. I had to ask myself this question, would I attend his “wedding “ and my answer would have to be no. I would talk to my son and express why but in the end I would have to accept what the consequences might be. I’m praying God will intervene in his life and he will realize truth and come back to Christ before that is even a thing. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Same here!!
Praying for you and your son and his significant other 🙏🏽 Do you let them come to family gatherings? I have a child who I may have a similar experience with and I wonder how I’ll manage it. Prayer and obedience of course but I wonder how I’d manage the Christian Mom in me and the human Mom who loves her kids and would hate if they felt not loved or accepted by me; regardless of them knowing the truth that I believe.
I heard that one can’t be Christian and in a same sex relationship. Is this true?
Isaiah 59:1 💜
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Wow!! Praise God, the conversation explaining why she couldn't attend led to her sister repenting and canceling the wedding!! God will use what the enemy intended for evil and use it for good.
yes 🔥
Honestly there are opposite sex weddings I would not attend
Amen !
this is so WOW!!
AMEN! Praise GOD!
UnnnnUHHHH they need to start all over and Jackie needs to say “Hello Saints and Aints” I’ve waited too long for her not to say that 😩😫😩😫
yessss
Agreed 😂
I was wondering what the deal was too? Wait a minute!!! Something is missing!!! The saints and aints need to be greeted before this can be a real episode! Lol!
YEEEEES!!!! That part!!
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I used to be gay as well. I would not be at peace celebrating going deeper into slavery to a sin that God has delivered me from. To be bound in that capacity is heartbreaking because it turns your life over to more confusion and allows your mind to be a playground for the enemy’s lies. I have thought about this before and never took the time to actually articulate my feelings surrounding this topic. This conversation was go good!
While I was hearing Preston’s stance on the matter I was thinking “it’s because he’s an evangelist” 😭😭. He’s used to having those hard conversations and being in those uncomfortable spaces! It’s your fire for Christ and love for people that makes you want to compromise. I commend you so much for that. I love that both of their opinions are built on a firm foundation and based on what Holy Spirit leads you to do. God bless you all 💕💕
Thank you for this!I think i see it the same even with my old life when i was in sin and doing certain things that did not honor God,it opened certain doors and clouded my judgement so much. Now if a friend would want to celebrate their birthday at a club or ask me to participate in activities that open doors to a life i left. I would say NO bc i know what it means now and what doors it opens but having the conversating and saying No with love is so important
This is exactly what I picked up he is an evangelist, I have preached the gospel in some of the most uncomfortable spaces & actually grew good relationships that I saw how God used me to help them but if you had to think about where or how we met you’d never believe it. I have to say that’s pretty on par with how God works, pray before going anywhere ask God to use you in whatever space you in & I’ll tell you he will do the most miraculous things in the most unexpected places.
I’ve come to accept that I need to be more prepared whenever I leave my secret space, he will bring up topics that I need to have & study that I’ll need to bring to convos to people that need it no matter where or who I’m with, it’s part of the role & our job to navigate because it’s part of what comes with working with Christ.
Love God more &love people enough to do the uncomfortable to glorify God. That some may be saved.
You used to be completely gay and now you're completely straight? I feel like you've always been attracted to both sexes but you're not acting on the same sex attraction anymore. I've never been remotely attracted to the opposite sex EVER.
Amen. May the Holy Spirit continue to brood upon you. God bless you.
I really needed this conversation. My family, who I helped to raise, announced their same sex wedding. My wife and I have been having this conversation for years in preparation for some of our friendships. The urgency we now feel because it’s a loved one we have invested in is stressful. Thank you Perrys.
This is off topic but Jackie is glowing so much these days! She is coming to speak at my university next month, and I cannot wait!!
what university do u go to omg
@@damilolasalami5071 liberty uni
I KNOW Right???!! Looking like she done did some Moses experience all glowing and stuff😅❤😊
Yes she is, I noticed that too
What university?
Jackie don’t be shy when he’s dropping all that black love magic on ya!! It’s cute to see when she gets shy when he’s affectionate. He said “it’s my job to protect you”, she said “ok”…😂😂😂
I know so cuteee 😂❤
It’s Gods love, love has no color!!! 😗
Magic ? That term is wicked.
@@gabriellapeebles9357so religious you can’t see the joke.
I see the joke and it’s funny but I do think it’s important that we be mindful of the terminology we use as we COULD be making covenants unknowingly through speech. There’s power in the tongue .
This is RIGHT ON TIME! My niece who adores me is engaged to a woman and I’ve been battling about the conversation of telling her no but not making God the villain. As someone who was malested by a girl but happily married to a man, I just don’t want her to miss out on all the fruit that comes from living a God honoring life/marriage. So thank you for having this uncomfortable conversation in public for people like me. ❤😊
When you tell her no God is not the villain. You are fully responsible for that hurtful decision. God will be at the wedding even if you are not.
@@atg7437Speak!
I love you both, you can't compromise brother,you don't have to pray asking a question that the word has already given an answer. Don't compromise,are you putting your relationship with family before God.
I was just having this discussion recently. Personally I wouldn't go at all. Being in attendance means you are in support, no matter what.
❤👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾 say it again. I agree with you 100%
It’s really just that simple.
Exactly!It would be similar to going to a gay pride parade to support a friend that is in it.
I totally agree.
What's beautiful here is that the conversation about how to "love" is being had. Really. My play daughter (our families have loved each other over 25 years) had a marriage ceremony with a woman that I did not attend. She and I went to dinner alone, and I affirmed my love for her and for the Lord. It is hard to follow Christ in these circumstances only in that we don't want to hurt other humans. But He did come to bring division in this sense. I think approach, that is to approach in love, makes ALL the difference. If I attended, whether I wanted it to or not, it would send a message to so many people in my circle and perhaps those that I'm not even aware of. Yet, we all attended the Glory conference together. I think, had our relationship stopped because she had that ceremony, which I believe would NOT be loving at all, she would not have accepted the invitation to the Glory conference. We all, including the woman she had a ceremony with, had a great time. And guess what, you know, seed was sown. What happens to the seed is in God's hand. Our responsibility is to love, not condemn. We can love and STILL choose not to compromise God's clear standard. I hope at least one person is helped by this. Above all else, love each other deeply...you know the rest. But look it up if yiu don't. 😉 Thank you to the Perry's for the conversation.
Such a beautiful comment ❤
This comment captures it beautifully.
This is wonderful!!! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you so much ❤
A wedding is a celebration and everyone who partakes are in one accord!
Thank you so much for this. The Church (big C) needed this. Love you guys and thankful for your lives and ministries.
its the "i didn't miss them, i don't know them" comment for me 🤣 jackie's realness is so me low key and so necessary hahahah!
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@@wonderfullymade425 I didn't find it to be insulting, tbh. Because I find it insulting and disingenuous to act like you miss your followers when you don't interact with them. Now had she been the type to actively interact in comments and whatnot, then it would have stung a bit. Lol.
@@wonderfullymade425 That's a fair point as well.
@@pri_shay_dior i just casually scrolled to see if anyone would make mention of that lol...well its a gentle reminder to not idolize anyone but to receive the word and appreciate the messenger. That makes it easier to not take anything literally. In my humble opinion.
Preston has the heart of an apologetic, willing to go toe to toe line for line.
Jackie is giving I get it but no. Also having to have her testimony is probably one of the most sincerest “no.” so it’s a balanced topic. I respect this convo 💯💯💯
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I thought Preston was gonna say it’s okay to go! 😅. Great topic! I wish I heard this over a decade ago. I was invited to a gay wedding and I rsvp’d knowing I wasn’t gonna go and later to tell her the day of that I couldn’t make it because of a lie. I just repented about that from hearing this conversation! Thank You Lord
“It invites a conversation, not a cancellation”…that’s powerful!
As someone who is struggling with same-sex attraction-by God's grace I have been saved but I still feel pulled by my flesh-pray that God will work in my life and current relationships to bring about healing in this area. I really appreciate Jackie's testimony and look to her and Preston's perspective on this because I desparately want to not feel this way.
Praying for you, friend :)
Continue to pray n seek God’s face daily. You can do this.
You're not alone. I have a whole husband and STILL struggle DAILY. May our Lord keep us til we no longer wrestle with this flesh!
Psalm 29:11
Praying for you as you continue to surrender your heart and life totally to God. Praying strength in your struggle with flesh, which we all have, just in different ways. May the Holy Spirit continue to be y your present help and companion on this walk. God bless you.
Preface: I am commenting halfway through. I find Preston’s perspective refreshing so far, specifically the wrestling for relationship - I love how he highlighted that nuance because it real. My younger sister is gay, I already told her I’m not attending her wedding which is scheduled for this year and it has been extremely hard for our relationship. She was my best friend growing up and it’s sad but with the revelation God has given me about sacredness and power of the biblical marriage covenant I am not released to attend. But there have been many challenging, back and forth conversations over the years leading up to this point because of that love we have for each other. Thank you for emphasizing the importance of wrestling, not just the no. I one-hundred percent agree with saying no, though. We don’t know the levels of biblical mystery of marriage, I can’t play with that. Appreciate y’all so much. I’m going to watch the rest now 😅
Edit: I’m done! Jackie’s comments about her grief and then the article discussing the “weaker brother” …fire!! ❤️🔥
My gosh i missed yall! Thank God you’re back 🥰 this was an amazing conversation. Sooo thoughtful and fruitful, thank you!
This is such a wonderful conversation and needs to be had more and more….This is a master class!Love these two. Mad respect.
God bless you two… My husband and I think you two are the DOPEST. Thank you for being light in a dark world… Your love for God’s word is beautiful. Thank you. THANK YOU.
Yes exactly. Thank you for being Light n a dark world. May God richly bless you both.
My takeaway is, because our relationships with others is also important to God, we need to have discernment if we find ourselves in these situations. And we can’t have discernment without consistent prayer and Bible study. I very much respect the stance that you never know what God might tell someone to do because God know everyone’s situation and what He’s trying to do. Amen to that.
Mr. Perry, May you keep watching out and protecting your wife, always!
It’s beautiful to see!
Mr. & Mrs. Perry, your love for each other is beautiful to watch!
And, the work you both are doing for Jesus Christ, is beautiful!
God is your help and guide, always.
Thank-you for sharing. Listening from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬.
”“Don’t imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword. ‘I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. Your enemies will be right in your own household!’ “If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.“
Matthew 10:34-39 NLT
@lvzyours Thank you!!! I was looking for this comment...it's not about how we "feel"
❤❤AMEN❤❤❤
Oooooooooo yes! Gods word cannot and must not be watered down by one’s feeling and emotions out of convenience to one’s life. His word stand! My yes mean yes and my no means No! without details or explanation
I agree with this, holy that we have to be stern and letting people know that God‘s word is true, and that we must move in it, but we also can’t be part of a Council culture as was mentioned in this discussion to where people cannot see the love one of God‘s great commandments we can love and still openly Tell people that we are not in agreement with what they do. We have to emphasize the love and what we do just like when the Lord rebuked, he did it in love he was stern about what he did, but he still loved that person. He demonstrated his love by continuing and dedicating his self to those people.
This is my second time commenting in this podcast when I first got in well how I first got into this whole segment and learning about this particular podcast was because I wanted to know who Jackie Hill Perry was based on the stance she took with Beyoncé and Beyoncé‘s actions at first I was a little skeptical of Jackie because I felt like she was just being someone that was harsh and judgmental However God let me to look into her so I was like who is Jackie Hill Perry and then I came to this podcast and then looking at her and her interaction with her husband and the discussion. God opened my spirit and I have a different stance and I have to apologize for even looking at her that way and it let me know that I needed to do research before making assumptions because that’s how I’ve been taken, all my life people made assumptions about me and have made judgments about me and didn’t take the time to get to know me and how truly feel about things as to why I make the decisions that I do so came to love came to help me love this sister and brother and I’m dedicated to Knowing more about their walk as a married couple cause I married also and her walk individually and I just thank God for being able to be transparent and share this and to have another person that I could look at and see basically we are similar and how the enemy can try to come in and cause division where you don’t truly get to know someone on your call to follow or get to know based on misunderstandingpeace and blessings everybody
Why would a lesbian or gay couple invite true believers to their wedding,. When they know that person will not compromise their beliefs?
Then say, "Don't be weird", or "Just tell me 'No', I'm not coming"?
Their belief would tell you "No", before their mouth speaks.
Boldness is not always replying to every sinful request. Sometimes it's just standing on your belief and letting your actions speak.
I believe they extend the invitation so a believer can co-sign it or to test your loyalty between them and over God.
Jesus said "this is my brother. This is my mother those who do the will of my Father". That is who he was loyal to.
You can definitely love your friends and family members who are in the same sex relationship, but if you are trying your best to live Holly, they will know, respect it and not invite a believer to co-sign, by witnessing sin and hold their peace
. In turn the believer wouldn't be upset about not being invited.
That way it won't be "weird" because each person is living the life they choose, boldly. With the agreement that they love each other and respect the life their chose to live.
I was thinking the same, why invite me, knowing my beliefs.
Right
I agree, I feel this way too. I can’t see my friends who know my faith inviting me to something that strictly goes against what I believe.
Jackie your brows are 🔥 and I’m so happy to have a new podcast from yall! Real, raw conversations!
Thank you so much for this conversation this has truly blessed me I appreciate both of us
Thank you for having this conversation and sharing it with us! These are challenging topics that take some good in-depth discussion that puts first God's desire in our lives and to live in the way he wants. 🎉🎉
Big topic, bigger God. The right ones to speak on it. Thank you for growing bold in the gospel. Love yall! ❤
Thank you Preston Family for this conversation! It was very helpful from both perspectives that lead back to the truth of God's Word! God Bless you both!
All of this needed to be said! Thanks for sharing ❤️🔥
A great conversation, thank you for giving this subject time.
Finally, my fave family returns to the tube! ✋🏽🤚🏽
This was a really good conversation. SO MANY good points from both Preston and Jackie.💯
"It's ok for people to see the wrestle"
Thank yal for this convo
So appreciative of you both! I love the conversations that you have and the love and grace that drips from your content! This conversation is a repeat for sure!
My wife wanted to go support her cousins gay wedding. I said no because it’s not real. Not going to lie thou I feel convicted because that’s my wife and I’d only go for her. This one’s tough. Glad someone putting it out there 💯‼️
As the husband, you are called to be the spiritual leader. You are called to go to the Father first and seek His will first above all else. I encourage you to seek His will, pray, and lead from that place.
What exactly do you want him to do if his wife wants to go? Shackle her to the bed?@@JMarie-th8xe
U leader, say no. God hold u accountable!!
I’m so looking forward to this discussion! I was faced with this challenge last year and I didn’t know what to do. Thank you Perry’s!
It's not a challenge. It's simply a choice to love.
It's not complicated.
@@WhatsOnYourMind. does that assume Love goes or love doesn’t go?
That's not a choice to love. It's a choice to hate. @@WhatsOnYourMind.
You can love and say no
I was asked to officiate one and I lost a friend…
“Sin makes everything hard.” Preston summed it all up with this comment.
I’m faced with this same situation with my daughter right now. We told her we cannot attend her same sex “event”, and it’s heartbreaking for everyone. She is now choosing to elope in another state since key people who love her won’t attend her “wedding”. The sin is making it all hard on everyone, including and especially her. When you have to feel the consequences of your actions like not having a real celebration with all your loved ones there, that should be a clarifying moment of revelation for you to see your sin for what it is. If you choose instead to proceed, you are consciously choosing to remain in that sin.
So then my daughter asks if we will at least come to a party afterwards… you know, to just party. Again, no, there will be no celebration of sin. Instead we mourn and grieve. I love my daughter so much, and I repeatedly tell and show her that. But I have also told her that I love Jesus more. And that never changes. Also, HE loves her more than I ever could. I pray these truths, however difficult to hear, will ultimately bring her comfort. I am loved and she is loved by a HOLY GOD. It wouldn’t be loving of me to celebrate her straight to hell. I will never stop praying for her. That’s love.
Amen and Amen❤
Really appreciate you guys speaking truth and talking about tough topics. 🙏🙏🙌🏼❤️
As someone new out of the lifestyle I’d be too nervous of a slip up. I’d be to nervous😂
Fair enough
Who you telling
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Thank you for taking the time to have this conversation with us. ❤
Great convo! Glad to have you guys back. Also Jackie is HILARIOUS!
Preston and Jackie, you added such insight to my thinking that was much needed. I appreciate the way you interact in order to weed through the issues to give God's truth a place to show up in our faith. God Bless the more!
If it’s going to make your heart guilty, just don’t do it and explain it to the person. Stand on your belief.
Oh how I have missed the Perry’s! Welcome back ❤
made it to the end-great talk-glad you two decided to share with the saints and aints :-) blessings to the person who was converted and cancelled the wedding and hope she is doing well!!
This was such a good conversation. I really appreciate the perspectives you both have
Thank you for taking on tough conversations.
I will still listen to Alistair Begg.
I wouldn't go to one regardless. Would our Saviour attend a gay wedding? NOPE. Thats good enough for me. 💜💜💜♾️
This the one. ☝️
How can we be so quick to say he wouldn't? I recall him being many places "he shouldn't have been" with the sinners and outcasts of society.
Very true
@@arisadventure2340when he was there , he was there to change people’s lives, not for them to continue living the way they were living. That’s the part y’all be leaving out on purpose!!!
@@24pixiegirlON PURPOSE. they and not that particular person but people in general who stand in Jesus is love and many other “Christians” pick a verse and forget that it was part of a full paragraph and or complete letter. Context is everything and they completely take it out of context to make God be who THEY want him to be. Majority won’t read the Bible at all they just hear a person say it and go off that. Sad…
Every 2minutes can be cut and made into a RUclips short or IG Reel. Watching again!🔥
Great conversation y’all!! Tastefully done👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
You all dont need them to tell you the answer. The answer is NO!!!
It’s also not just about the answer being No but how you lead with love while you deliver that No. a lot of Christians miss that part.
Jackie said she had the luxury of feeling she wouldn’t even be asked to attend a ceremony like that which leads me to believe that’s she’s so bold in her word her stance is already implied! Those of the world KNOW that the agreement of homosexuality is not of God, so that invitation in itself is alarming. The no should be implied unless your a lukewarm follower of Christ.
@@victoriaknowsbest thank you for clarifying. So many people are missing the whole point 😂
I get Preston to a degree. If you want me to be in a place with you that questions my walk with Christ then you need to be ok with me defending my attendance. If you really love me you wouldn’t ask me to look like a false Christian and go against my beliefs just to make you happy because at that point it’s given set up and Satan is that you trying to work through my loved one 😑
Pretty much! Because it doesn't mean you don't love them. It just means Jesus is priority.
Although I agree with not going to gay weddings. Do we keep this same energy with people that have kids before marriage? Or people that are visibly pregnant before marriage? Or a currently fornicating couple? Where do we draw the line
Good question cause teenagers still having babies and mom is still supporting them. Even to the point of having a “christening” in a church.
Why would you disagree with them finally coming into a Holy Covenant and turning away from sin…
Is the celebration To come into agreement with God or darkness.
I would say the difference is one is continuing in sin while the other is turning towards righteousness. If the sin was having sex outside of marriage, then them getting married would mean they are no longer committing adultery. However gay sex/marriage is not ordained by God so they would still be participating in sin even if “married”
No one is saying to shun sinners. But don't affirm or rejoice in their sin.
Exactly the same people who say they won't go to gay weddings will still attend a baby shower for an out of wedlock baby. I keep the same energy for ALL sin.
OMG, What a wonderful, Blessed, with scripture conversation this is and the closing remarks was right on point❣️ This really Blessed me. There is nothing like a conversation that is backed up with scripture. Gob Bless you both and your ministries❣️🙏❤❤
I was just talking about this with my oldest daughter. Great conversation im gonna send this to her thx for sharing.
I love you guys SO MUCH! And recommend you to many friends!
One thought. Jackie mentioned guarding against false teachers. One wrong statement, one area of growth for even preachers (because they don’t know all they aren’t perfect or Christ) doesn’t make them a false prophet. Allester Begg is awesome and very much anointed in my opinion. He didn’t set out to step On toes he set out to honor Jesus and spread His love. He is under attack because he’s a believer!!!! I pray he is rejoicing in this affliction!
I love how open, blunt, and transparent Jackie is!! "You talking about Propel with Christine Caine or the Bethel thing?!" 🤣🤣
This was amazing,,, wow what a great conversation🙏
This was a very thought provoking discussion. I love it! Thank you for revealing both sides of this matter.
The camera quality is UP. I don’t even have the resolution turned to the max.
Anyhow, can’t wait for Preston’s book!
Thank you so much for touching this topic! Has been a hard conversation amongst my friends. It is really good to hear the stance of someone who understands the struggle of that sin but still stands firm in truth. God bless you both!
Where does god say it’s a sin to have a same sex marriage?
@@musicfanatic4641 Every mention of marriage in the Bible refers to the union of a male and a female. The first mention of this structure is in Genesis 2:24. While the Bible does address homosexuality, it does not explicitly mention gay marriage/same-sex marriage. It is clear, however, that the Bible condemns homosexuality as an immoral and unnatural sin. Leviticus 18:22 identifies homosexual sex as an abomination, a detestable sin. Also in Romans 1:26-1:27 declares homosexual desires to be unnatural and shameful. With that you can pick-up the principle that since homosexuality is condemned in the Bible, it follows that homosexuals marrying is not God’s will and would be, in fact, sinful. BUT there is always hope if someone is struggling with this sin, God’s word is transformative and powerful. Jackie Hill is a beautiful example of how she let the Lord transform her heart and although she may have her struggles she chooses daily to die to her fleshly desires and be obedient to God’s word and the Lord has blessed her with such a beautiful family and ministry. God loves His creation, but hates sin. Homosexuality is a sin like any other sin. Christians who hate homosexual people are not good examples of Christians, we are called to love people but we should not support or promote that sin.
Great talk!! Thank you for sharing!!
So glad to see you’ll back in my feed😁…Jackie is glowing ☺️
Im not. I will not sit, stand, jump, etc in agreement which is what I would be doing if I attended. I do not support your decision but I can still love you :)
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Straight and concise. I respect the way you said it 🎉💯
Totally agreed. Scripture does tell us in Roman’s 1:32 that if we approve of sin we are guilty as well. Edit: I do respect the conversation Preston and Jackie had too but yes this comment is accurate friend, well said!
Exactly. Like look what God did to a whole town. God didn't explain nothing to nobody he destroyed the city because they were dabbing in sexual sin.(homosexual)
@@Jerusalem23we are not God. there are things we must explain.
Prestons' answer just seems complicated...
But it's not...
It's really easy.
No.
Exactly
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True
Very complicated.
Sometimes the “hard thing” is saying a definite no, which can be said with compassion and love.
The world is always asking Believers to bend this way or that way while they (the world) makes no compromise…..
I think you've missed it if you think his answer sounds complicated. His answer is real and provides needed prospective
WELCOME BACK!!!!! Hope to see y'all in Chi-Town!!!
This is a great conversation. Both of you have a good point. I love the way this beautiful couple let each other talk and get their point across.
This was a great conversation. The more the church is equipped to deal with these issues the better it is for us.
This camera quality is OMG!🔥
I've genuinely missed y'all. Although, Jackie says otherwise 😅. I'm drawn to your authenticity nonetheless.
Was I the only one constantly refreshing the channel to know if I per chance missed an episode?
Glad you're back, please.
Much love from Nigeria.
As someone who talks about sexuality, this episode was enlightening for me. Thank you.
Been missing yall! Glad yall are back
This is the most well rounded , wholistic conversation I’ve seen/heard on this topic. This is so good!
I love the part when Preston says that the reason he errs on that side is because he is an evangelist! Literally reminded me of Ephesians 5:17 which says "understand what the Lord wants you to do" and I would add 'in light of who he has called you to be and what he has called you to do"
"God wants you to honor him and honor people." That hit such a sore spot, as an introvert who often disappears out of convenience, instead of wrestling with the hard things. My decade of disappearing acts are legendary.
I understand that too. Those words definitely pierced me & im now asking God to do the work in me that is necessary.
I don't think disappearing is convenient. I think people who disappear from the hard relationships or conversations still wrestle with it & probably had those conversations in their heads. Do you?
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@@treshabarrettmsw1981 Conversation all the time.
Love watching your conversations!Very real!❤
hi this is Sherell viewing you from Seattle Washington, it's good for you giving us a new perspective, but I would not go after I told them where I stand but it's great to know.
As long as Jesus doesn’t cancel you, everything will be okay.
This is a great conversation. We aren’t talking about a co-worker or a roommate. These relationships with siblings, children and even parents. I do believe” What does the spirit of darkness have in common with the spirit of light”? We’re going to offend others when we don’t agree with them.. we just need to come to them out of love, explain our convictions and show support in other ways.
AMEN! Well said
Sending a message that they aren't worthy or are broken makes your support in other ways is hollow support.
This was really good y’all! I’m actually going thru this situation with my lil sister she is engaged to a women. God was really speaking thru y’all to me!
Thank you for this convo, this was clarification that I didn't know I needed.
As a former slave, I can't attend a celebration of slavery. Boom! That's the best take I've heard.
As an atheist I enjoy listening to y'all convesations, especially when you are not willing to surrender to ephemeral and transiet norms & mores en-vogue at the present moment. I respect the fidelity to your faith and boundaries erected around your principles. The comments below are refreshing to be honest.
That’s awesome you recognize it. God gives us all we have, it’s amazing, beyond our imaginations, and it’s free to anyone who just seeks and wants Him. 🤍
Wow u guys literally touched on everything! ❤❤❤❤
I missed you guys. Glad you're back!
Preston way sounds like struggling the fence. I don't understand what he is saying. Because, if God was thought first and He told you to go, why would a public decoration be needed for men? Unless that public decoration simply states "I sought God first.He told me to go and honor Him while I was there", ( meaning to deliver a message) That way God is being honored and the wedding party is being honored with the Word of God and by your commitment to their eternal life.. That way a public announcement disowning the wedding party wouldn't be needed..
I can see God tells someone to go into that situation to preach or to deliver a message that would change the outcome of the day.
Jesus never went into a situation where minds weren't changed, nor did the atmosphere remain the same when He left.
So if God is telling someone to go, the atmosphere would change and sin would no longer be a happy occasion.
My best friend was in a 17 year relationship with the same sex. There were times they would invite me to their home and I went, but it was always clear to them before, during and after my stance on their relationship.
After 17 years my friend is no longer in that relationship. She said what helped her out was that I never compromised my love for God and my love for her, and I never stopped believing she would be free from that sin. However , other people, even her family members, disowned her. I stayed committed to our friendship and more importantly my witness to her.
Every opportunity God gave me I reminded her of God's word and love for her and for her girlfriend.
Thanks for sharing. I have a neice that just got "engaged" to another woman. This helps me know how I should proceed.
If I don’t honor it as a wedding and I know it’s not Christ ordained between a man & woman, I’m not going. Family or not.
Very thoughtful conversation. Reflects my inner thoughts and opinions exactly but I liked hearing it fleshed out in dialogue!
Thank you for tackling this challenging issue. Blessings!
Praying you guys have been okay🫶🙏 been a min...
Preston has a book launching. So I’ve been watching their appearances on other content creators channels. They been busy!
“When have I ever gone into a space and NOT told the truth.” Come on Jackie and Preston!! That did something to my spirit. God is using y’all and I thank Him for it. 🙏🏽
Love these two! Beautiful discussion within the context of a beautiful example of a marriage!
Wow I love to hear both sides of this conversation, it’s interesting to see both perspectives. I also love to hear how important it is to have those hard conversations, especially when you never know what God can do with those conversations just by you being obedient and brave.