I must say you do really comprehensive tests on your channel that actually makes sense. Other RUclipsrs just browse over the evaluation just rambling on to make time. People need valuable information to make the most informed decisions. Kudos.
You are doing a good job. You are one of the few you gives very good technical specs. I'm an Electrical Enginner so I like info on the technical stuff. Kudos.
Very thorough review indeed. Good job. As I say, most RUclipsrs just ramble on and on and not getting into the important specs on the item. They just make up time. What about the screen? Does it stays on? Does it have a sleep mode? Or a dim mode for that matter? One of the most important info I like is to load test the item and let us know also if it has "pass thru charging". I need it to have pass thru charging as it doesn't make sense otherwise.
Just bought myself this one. Feels like a good, solid product. Actually was not aware of the UPS function before experimenting :) pretty awesome! Looking forward to use it as UPS for next years
Your reviews are the gold standard. You test every single thing and do it efficiently, nice work. I was debating if I should review this post-crowdsourcing and the DC power off under low loads and overall inefficiency are making me think twice. I get this is a budget unit but still. One tip on the Bluetti: do extensive tests of standby losses and compare it to other units. I mentioned it in my review but I’ve been doing more testing recently and it loses 1% per hour if on with all ports off. Turning AC and DC ports on on loses 3% an hour w/no loads (Delta Max is 0.85%/hr). I think it’s way too much if you want to use this for vanlife or camping where you need to power smaller loads over long periods of time. Bluetti chimed in and said they don’t rec using it unless you’re pulling over 300w minimum which makes it much more of a special purpose unit than they market it as. Sorry for the rant but it would be good to have you start testing standby losses, I’m going to do that going forward because large losses can be far worse than an inefficient inverter.
Hey Todd, your videos are also top notch! I was disappointed when I discovered the DC output autoshuts off. Most people don't test that feature out in their review videos. Excellent information on the standby loss for the AC200P. I'll keep that in mind for my future power station reviews. I didn't notice any horrible background loss on this one but I wasn't paying attention to that specifically. There are so many things to test on these, it feels a little overwhelming sometimes haha
@@Jasonoid Yeah, very glad you tested that because the 12v output's main purpose is powering a DC compressor fridge and it's silly to ask people to attach another appliance to waste power and keep it awake. I'm surprised they weren't willing to consider changing that threshold in the firmware.
Hey Schteve good to see you again! I'm working on a power station grading system so one can easily chose the best option for them. Also I will be doing a full comparison video later this year! It's going to be awesome! Big plans on the works!
@@Jasonoid Good to hear! I really enjoy the new technology coming out with these power stations. We actually had a significant power outage not long ago and my stations got a work out. They are priceless. Keep up the good work.
Wow, what a thorough review. You pretty much covered everything. Thank you. The only thing I wonder is how reliable the unit is, which only time will tell. Too bad it shuts off after 4 hours with no load, but this seems like a great unit for the price. Very tempting to get this. This unit has the exact specs I need. Thanks again.
Thanks Lit! I means a lot coming from you! I now have a testing checklist for these test videos and it's very comprehensive. I have cycled the power station about 35 times so far, still performing great. Time will tell how long it lasts.
Great video and review, love how logical and well spoken the videos are. I was ready to get on board but not sure now since the DC shuts off; my main use is DC refrigerator. Feeling eco mode very much unnecessary. Why not turn this off, and add wifi and an app in the future to let the user choose?
I wish they didn't have that DC auto shutoff! Man this would be perfect without that one issue! So annoying right?! When I spoke with the Oukitel team in China over the phone they said NONE of their future batteries will have this feature. They said they didn't know people used these power stations for DC powered fridges and now they know better. I guess you can thank me for beating it into their brains so hard haha...
Thanks Jason! Got the BIBENE 500w after your video review and also the Delta Pro, can't believe I'm getting this again, but since I got good experience with the Bibene/Outkitel, I think this is another decent purchase and it will be more portable for short camping trip compares to my Delta Pro.
With a 1100watts of UPS power, it certainly does a great job. I have been letting my dad use it for the last two months with his work desktop and monitor setup, it's been working really well!
This is the best review I've seen so far on the P2001. My concerns are the just over 1500wh true capacity and China based support - appearance of no US service or support. I'm not sure I trust the warranty should it fail entirely.
Very good points, you may want to look at other options. The Anker power stations should have very good warranty and support. They also have lifepo4 batteries!
In my mind, the UPS function of this device is by far THE function that I consider a MUST HAVE for anyone with computers. The UPS function is far more useful/practical & something everyone SHOULD have. EXCEllent testing/review, you checked out everything that needs/should be tested in a review. Having a power bank included in the same device as the UPS function is what makes this a truly desirable device. I'll wait & pay their retail price AFTER the "Crowd Funding" phase is over & done with. Everything I've seen that is purchased during the Beta Testing "Crowd Funding" phase is problem-prone & I'm unwilling to be forced into being an unpaid Beta Tester for this or any other manufacturer. I strongly suspect any unit bought during this "Crowd Funded" phase will come with PROBLEMS. Warm Regard from Reno, Nevada
Thanks for your thoughts Claimjumper! I AGREE, it's pretty awesome to have that much power in a backup battery with a UPS. Respectable to wait till it's available on amazon, It will launch within a few months on that platform. That's what they told me at least.
@@jayjiang another guy that reviewed it on the youtubes tried it on his laptop without a battery installed. The laptop stayed powered on and working during the swap
@@jayjiang 2 thumbs down - You're full of baloney. 10mm switch will work - NO problem! My 12 year old APC Backups ZS1300 has an 8-12ms transfer time & my iMac & Macbook air don't even flicker when power is transferred to my APC's UPS. You need to produce your own video clearly showing computers will turn off with this units' 10ms transfer switch You sound like a sour-grapes employee of a competitor.
@@Jasonoid Thanks Jason, good to know about aother testing. I personally do not mind 10ms, that's pretty good compares to the 30ms on the Delta Pro but my home devices that require UPS have standard UPS batteries on them just for peace of mind, and voltage regulation. Not sure whether the bypass has that or not. Hope to see more and more UPS features being introduced to future solar stations.
I just received mine and am initially very impressed by the way it was packaged for shipping and the look of the unit. I'm just doing the initial charge and will try to update once I've had a chance to use it for a bit. The UPS feature was key for me.
My dad has been using my unit for over a month to power his home office off UPS mode, VERY COOL feature! His power drops all the time and this has helped him keep his home office up and running (Desktop, monitors, router, and printer)
That looks like a good overall package, with a decent price point. The size, weight and form factor are right at the upper limit of what you might call "portable", without being able to break it down into smaller pieces or chain units together. One thing not mentioned is whether or not you can reduce the AC charging from something less than "Super" charging, to reduce the stress on the battery cells. Thank you for doing a thorough review and going through the checklist of its capabilities.
The charging cannot be lowered from 1100watts, but you can charge it up using a custom DC to DC power supply to get 500 watts instead of 1100w. Something near a 36v @ 15amps would work well on the Anderson powerpole port.
I am really torn Jason, I know you will be testing some ECO FLOWS, so I might hold out. I'm testing my Bibene CN-505 right now to find out how many nights I can go before a recharge. The monitor says I'm at 58% left and three bars still showing. So I guess that means I've used 42% in 2 nights, or 21% each night. I really appreciate your reviews and how quickly you respond to my dumb questions. I am trying to watch as much as I can of your reviews and make an educated choice ( because they're all manufactured in China ) and my main purpose is my c-pap machine ( God bless you, those who don't have to rely on this cumbersome device) and I always liked MORE POWER. Thank you again, for being such a good guy and helping us all out, in this ever changing world of electronics.
It's a pretty decent overall package with some limitations but also some bonuses. Nice middle of the road compromise on features. I really like the unit. The smaller previous model seems to be pretty good as well. Nice review. If it proves reliable, I think they well definitely be a solid competitor
Hey Anthony. This is the first one I have tested on the channel, I didn't mean to state the first one ever with that feature. It's great to see companies are starting to include this as a feature for the bigger power stations.
Hi Jason ! Due to your inadequate, sketchy, poorly delivered evaluation of this unit a coupla' months ago I decided to add one to my collection of 'Power Stations' . It arrived a few days ago & am very pleased with the performance . . . the price ($999.) wasn't bad either . I intend to use this unit powering my light-speed doubling 'Photon Accelerator' which may be useful increasing the efficiency of Ion-drive propulsion . . . . also for decreasing communication time using light through space . Thanks, RH
Great review! Nicely presented. A few thoughts. 1. Are the USB ports considered DC? because you can get like 2w usb lights to usb to keep it on. Like $5 on amazon. 2. A big deal on this one, I think people might not realize is 15amp solar input is really nice.. most like the 200P and others only offer 10 or 12 amps. 15 Amps really help when you push the parallel connection on a sunny day (Not a cloudy day), you can really max out the watts, which is crucial since it only allows 48v input. So if you go 2s2p on some 180w or 200w panels, you can really get the best of both worlds....that being said...3. The ac200p allows for 145V, so you could easily connect 4 panels in series.......but connecting 4 panels in 2s2p on the Oukitel will make its solar connection shine. 15 Amps is really a nice addition you dont see on most solar inputs.
I agree on the solar being a good balance! My plan is to run 4 180 watt BougeRV panels in a 2s2p configuration to get a good mix of voltage and amps. I'm looking forward to a good sunny day to test it out soon, I'll do a video on it. I put all 4 of those panels in series and I didn't see very many watts on the AC200P. I don't think series connections are the best for output. Im not sure if the USB is considered DC output becuase the they are controlled by a separate power switch. I'll have to test more.
Great review and looking forward to your comparison. I went ahead and ordered since I have been in the market for such a backup power supply. I hope you can communicate the need for them to ramp up the solar charging capacity on their devices. (I enjoyed the hack on their smaller generator but it should not be necessary and adds at least an $85 US cost for a MPPT charger at least one you recommended.) This would check off an important box in features that would make it competitive against Bluetti and Ecoflow products. I am sure a large segment that would be interested are doing so due to prepping issues and not some idyllic vacation in the woods. The UPS feature is definitely a step in the right direction. Also, recommend to them to add that light on their smaller unit instead of that "spotlight version" which is much less utilitarian and aesthetically speaking it can be made more pleasing but that suggestion can be ignored if they can keep the price point 50% less than the competitors. I can add stickers.
It's held up really well to my testing so far. Picking it up at $999 is a great price compared to what else you can get at that price (Jackery 1000, ECOflow Delta 1300 are priced similar).
Ooh, nice one. I'm sorely tempted. March delivery though, and doesn't include a solar charging cable unless you pay another $200 (also includes a car charging cable). The specs look great, and $0.50 /WH is a great price. Thinking...
It's been great so far for me. DC turning off is a little bit annoying but everything else was pretty good. I like the 1100w, 1500w dual fast charging!
i liked the oukitel and found there are so many brandings of it cause they are basically just generic chinese power stations with small differences. ending up getting an "Averly" cause it was the cheapest. the only difference i noticed so far is the smaller top without the cable compartment and my xt60 plug seems rated for 25A but i only had a testload off 140W so far. the dc doesnt shut off after 4h without a load but the usb does after some minutes.
ohh nice I like Oukitel products. I have a Renogy Inverter and a Battery that do this too. But it's not the first the Leoch was and that's been out 6 months
That's what the marketing rep said over the phone for the Kickstarter purchase. I'll have to clarify this with them again. Sorry for the confusion Aaron.
For the price of $999 this is decent. I went with the Zendure SuperBasePro 1500 several months ago ordering it and was lucky enough to get it at $949. I'm still waiting on it though. It's a smaller battery by 500WH but the same type of battery chemistry. The features are better on the Zendure IMO. For example, 1800W 60-160V solar via MC4 to AC port plus 600W 12-60V solar via MC4 to XT60 port. There's also an EV-AC adapter you can charge it with too. If I were to make a suggestion to @Oukitel it's to add wheels with a pullout handle like the Zendure has.
Not to bad. Also now I want to test UPS mode on my build; however my 48v charger is limited to 130w right now. Lol also 100w usb is neat; however don't think I have anything that would charge that fast. (Endless rabbit hole)
I had such High hopes for this unit. I purchased mine a month ago to mainly use it as a UPS for my freezer. I was horrified to find out that 2 days after a quick power outage, the entire AC side had shut off and as a result, the freezer was not powered. Unfortunately, 50% of my food thawed. Luckily, I'm under my Amazon 30 day return window and this unit is going back proto.
Hi Jason. My Bluetti AC200P 2000W weighs 60.6 lbs with an external power brick. You mentioned 48 lbs for the P2001 with an internal power brick.......? Something does not seem right. I'm guessing this is not a LiFePo4 chemistry. Also, I would like to see the UPS function with electronics and not a heater. Bummer on the Eco/DC 4hr issue. Thanks for the great review.
It's definitely LiFePO4, i'm guessing the weight of the components inside and size alone make it weigh less. Less quality? Maybe. I have been using this as a UPS for the last 2.5 weeks and it's been working flawlessly.
Very comprehensive review Jason, thanks! Did you have any DC voltage drop during your DC discharge / capacity test, when the DC circuit was under maximum load with the two load-testers?
Very small bit of voltage drop from the internal wiring, it's regulated at 13.6 volts so you see 13.3 volts the entire discharge cycle. Very good level of regulation.
Hey Robert, I asked if they would do a firmware update to fix the ECO mode setting and they said it would be too difficult. I was disappointed since this power station would be that much better if the DC output didn't shut off. I use the DC output a lot when camping, I'm sure others wouldn't use it as much so it isn't that big of deal.
Greets from germany, still using the ac200p and the new ep500pro. This new powerstation seems like a good starter unit, not like the scam, natures generator for 1200 dollars 😄. But i would rater buy the ac200max cause you can expand it with 2 batterys and it has 2200 watt inverter and 900 watts solar input. But thats just my opinion
I like the powerstation, just a couple things, the bms doesn't seem to have low temp charging protection, and a higher voltage for solar charging would certainly be better, so you could have 3 180 watt panels in series, or the equivalent, 5 hundred watt panels in series...For the kickstarter price can't really beat it..I've used Eve cells to make several systems..I own the Bluetti AC 200P, 2 home made solar generators and 2 homemade off grid solar systems...Good review, except you didn't mention my two concerns, and you didn't mention if there is a setting to charge it slower, as I wouldn't want to charge that fast ever, unless an extreme emergency...Thanks..
No way to slow down charging, I gave that feedback to the company since it's stressful on the pack to always "super charge" it. Since the amperage limit is 15amps for the DC input, you can parallel 180 watt panels AND put them in series, a 2s2p array would work well. I don't think any of these power stations have low temp charging protection, would be interesting to test on all the power stations I have for low temp charging. Great testing idea!
Thanks for the excellent detailed review. You are giving the guy in the white coat a run for his money for the best power station reviews. I notice there is an FFPower (formerly Bibene) version of this which is a bit cheaper that I think you will be testing in the future. Two things concern me. First, your issue with the cigarette lighter port. The four hour cutoff doesn't make sense since your fridge would cycle on and off several times during the four period yet is still shut off. Also Ozark Overland Adventures did a review and he used a Dometic fridge to compare total run time and the Oukitel ran a shorter time than BOTH the Jackery 1500 and even the Jackery 1000 which makes no sense but points to some issues to that DC cigarette port. He didn't see the shutoff issue you did. Your DC capacity test did not yield the best results either. I'm curious if these might be resolved by the FFpower version? Anyway I going to hold off for a while and see if these issues get ironed out in later revisions of this power station
The 4 hour shutoff has been fixed on the FFpower P2001 unit for sure. The DC capacity is the same on both units since they are basically the same, just running different versions of firmware. Expect around 1500 to 1600wh of DC output, my fridge test on the FFpower unit was about 82 hours long. My review unit was the "preproduction" unit and gave them so much pressure to fix the 4 hour shutoff. I told them I'd never review another Oukitel unit again if they didn't fix it.... Lol... They finally did the firmware upgrade so the Amazon unit should be fixed on the Oukitel P2001.
Sorry for the inconvenience. This is an energy-saving mode of the AC output. When the power is lower than 1W, the AC output will automatically turn off within 10 minutes. You can replace the cigarette port(car charging port) to output, the cigarette port does not have energy-saving mode, the output will not be shut down automatically. Can you accept the AC energy-saving mode? This is the response oukitel sent me
I'm guessing my unit was a preproduction unit that didn't have that feature?! Does it mention that in the owners manual? If that is something that will not work for you, I'd fight to return the unit as they misrepresented their product in the Kickstart campaign.
Great review as always. I wonder if the capacity difference between 12v and AC could be caused by the 12v regulator being ran at near full capacity, lessening its efficiency? As for the 12V shutting off at 4hrs, possibly just turning on the AC inverter would prevent the unit from powering off?
The AC inverter being powered on uses a bit of power in standby, it might keep the DC output on but it will use quite a bit of power. As for the DC efficiency levels it's hard to tell what's actually happening, this is what I am thinking: Anytime the DC output is enabled, it's using background power to regulate from 48volts down to 13.3volts. Maybe 15 to 25 watts, not sure the amount of power being consumed by the regulation. So a 12v device takes power from the battery (saying a 50 watt fan) but is also using other background power. So the longer its running the more background power is added. Shorten that time by raising up the load say to 160 watts and you get more power from the battery VS background power being used. I'll try giving it a test sometime and see what happens.
Loved how you rigged up the dual DC capacity testers man. Hadn't thought about doing that! haha Ive been only using 1 which always limited my DC efficiency tests to lower draws, which in bigger units such as the AC200 or B230, always yielded lower then ideal efficiencies. Genius! haha And hey when you do that next video on that AC200P unit.. could you do that draw test on that 12v/25a aviation output and also monitor the voltage during the test thru the cig port? Couple of friends have noticed a voltage drop actually, which is unfortunate thru the DC side.. Understanding that the wireless pad on top will also always be "on" and pulls roughly 4 watts and the 3a sockets use 2watts idling as well.. we were still noticing the voltage fluctuating from 14.2v all the way down to 12.7v thru the cig port. 🤔
Hey Mike I just finished testing this on the power station, I filmed it but my video is too long so I need to cut it out. If you want to see the test results you can send me your email address and I can share that portion of the video with you. I always saw the same 13.4volts output BUT I did see some voltage drop over my wiring so I think that's what they are seeing. 100% or 20% battery, 13. 4 volts all the time.
Hi, Pls forgive my ignorance (older lady with not much electrical knowledge), but is there such an animal as an ac plug that coverts to dc 12v? Then you could run a dc fridge via ac outlet. Thx for humoring me. Love your reviews by the way.
If you check out this video, the ICECO VL series come with built in AC to DC adapters so you can run them off an AC outlet just fine: ruclips.net/video/slLEnFgPLsI/видео.html
at end of video, you said you were doing another video comparing the oukitel p2001 & bluetti ac200p. when are you doing that one? and if not, for just running full size fridge & freezer which one would you buy with a $250-$300 difference?
I have done a few other videos on this since this one came out: DC output is Fixed (Newer video): ruclips.net/video/azy1ekZLhCo/видео.html Solar Charging Update (older video): ruclips.net/video/3yzEAGLXNlQ/видео.html The AC200p has more capacity and more solar charging input, so it would run your fridge longer and charge faster with solar panels. This does have the UPS functionality and fast AC charging if that's important to you. Check out my grading sheet here to compare them: jasonoid.com/powerstations/
Jason, have you did a test on the Anker 757 yet? It say's on their Website that they recommend you use the DC port for smaller draw items as to not draw power from the AC side, is this accurrate?
The AC inverter has background power draw when running so its more efficient to use DC output. The batteries are DC, so there is no conversion process back to AC power required when using the DC ouput on a power station. And no, I don't have that power station.
They have lots of different uses. When the power goes out it can power multiple smaller devices for a long time and power one or two large devices for a shorter time. Easily charges up with solar panels to keep these running. My primary use is for camping to power my 12v fridges so I don't need to worry about ice. I power other gadgets like lights, fans and chargers. (I don't have an RV or trailer to do that stuff).
I just got my oupes 1100w battery and 2 100w panels for around $800 but this battery looks like a better deal!! Should I start the return process on Amazon and order this one?
Only you can make that decision since you know how you'll use it. Both power stations should be pretty decent options. Remember the DC output turns off at 4 hours so if you're planning to use that longer than 4 hours you have to turn it on and off every 4 hours. I like how this one has more storage and faster charging than the Oupes 1100!
@@Jasonoid I just start the return process, now my question is, should I order this battery with the coupon for $999 or should I wait until something else comes out?
Take a look at the Zendure SuperBase 1500 and the CTECHI ST2000. Those options should be similar to this one. I haven't tested them though so I can't say how good they are personally. I am currently testing the Bluetti AC200P, it's better than this power station in almost every way... Except it's like $1600...so pretty pricey, that ac200p video should be out next week or so. If you don't mind the 4 hour DC Autoshutoff, this Oukitel is a GREAT buy at $999. I wouldn't buy it for more than that though.
@@Jasonoid thanks for replying so fast!! I will check some reviews my only plan for this is as backup in case of power outage I have a gas/propane generator but I want something for night Which of those 2 companies do you think has a better costumer service? I was thinking of bluetiti ac200p but read some bad reviews and company doesn't respond at all I don't want to spend that much for something mess up later without any response from companies!! Thanks for all great videos and testing 👍
Question: Can you run this in UPS mode with Solar charging but have the A/C charging kick in if the battery gets too low? Basically I want to have my computers to be solar powered.
I have the Grecell version of this. I was testing; AC plugged in, passthru to a freezer and/or fridge. No more than 284w ever. The AC inverter shuts off anywhere from 6-46 hours. The only fix is a manual power down the reboot. I bought this to power the freezer, unattended, to be a backup to my electric service. I’m leaving for months and this won’t do. DO NOT BUY. I bought through amazon and it’s not a returnable item. I’ve messaged the seller a few times with friendly but unsuccessful results. I opened a case with Amazon for a refund due to faulty product.
Great review. Quick question: I would love to have this for my small home as power goes out several times a year here in northern CA. Can I use my Pulsar 2000 watt inverter generator to charge this while it's supplying power to the home? I'm sure the answer is yes but will it charge in less than 2 hours similar to plugging it into an AC socket? This would be great to have as I wouldn't have a noisy generator on all the time. Even at 60 DB its still noticeable at night.
I am wondering if it's possible to use this while charging permanently? I am looking for a portable power station that I can use in my caravan. the plan is to 1. plug the power station into a dedicated outlet from the shore power input. 2. Then wire a plug with a 16amp MCB and suitable sizing wiring going into the 240 caravan consumer unit. 3. possibly do similar to step 2 for 12v consumer unit (plugged into the power station 12v outlet). why? I would like to to use this instead of traditional house battery setup. I want to use the sockets, receptacles already in the caravan. I would like to use the mains power to power the caravan and charge the battery and only use the battery when there is no mains power. I would like to be able to do this while having solar panels permanently connected and allow for solar charging while also being charged by the mains. I would like to be able to remove the power station and easily plug the consumer unit back directly to the single mains shore power outlet coming from the shore power input. any problems with doing this with something like this unit?
Hi Jasonoid love your shows. Question?.. You did a review on a Nekteck solar panel, a 28w. But I don't see it on your site anymore. Is there a reason for that? I actually just ordered it on Amazon today, because you gave it good reviews. Now since that review's not there,I'm curious 🤔. Hope to hear from you soon thanks. Again, great stuff 👍🏼
Hey Al, this power station can take up to 48 volts charging input, so you can connect two 12volt solar panels (which actually put out 22volts) together in series. You can choose glass rigid solar panels or portable folding panels, either will work just fine.
jason, I was considering this power station but because of the 12v /4hr issue and the crowd funding early in ??? The price nearly got me ... My main purpose (need) is to have some back up power when dry camping (12volt) fridge , small amounts of microwave use, and some lighting etc. . Im considering A Generark 1000watt with 2- 100w solar panels with 5yr warr. for $1499.00 total ?? It would be nice to power house Fridge in case of power outage too. Any advice for my current needs would be Great ! Im new to the Battery power units realm, except for the heavily marketed ones like Jackery , etc. Thanks in advance !
Hey Vicky, I haven't used / tested the Generark 1000watt but if youve seen some good testing on it and no issues I bet it's a good option. That seems pretty similarly priced to the Jackery 1000. You might also want to look at the ECOflow products, they have some great options for $1000-$1500. Costco has HUGE deals on ECOflow products on their website too.
I wonder if you are aware of the company PECRON. I know they have a couple units currently on the market and now a 3000W (model E3000) that is wrapping up an Indiegogo campaign. Sounds really nice but wondering how it would fair in your review.
Another comment for others: the pricing is good with KickStarter but this is actually becoming normal pricing with more manufacturers making similar units now. For 1k, good price, for 2k, I won't bite.
Its made in China like 100% of all power stations I've tested. I'm not sure if there's one brand made in the USA right now. EcoFlow, Bluetti, Jackery, GoalZero and all the other smaller brands are all made in China.
For portable use and camping with a 12v fridge, the FFpower P2001. For home backup and powering larger loads, the AC200Max since it has expandable batteries and takes in much more solar.
This power station doesn't support expandable batteries but you could purchase more than one unit and have more capacity available. That would be quite expensive. The Bluetti AC300 support expandable batteries. Very cool feature!
Yes, it still shuts off, I made a follow up video with a full solar demo and testing with a USB load. I did get this to work and not shut off using a 12v cig splitter cable and running a 12v fan and a fridge at the same time. So if you have the power coming from the same socket it works just fine.
So it can be used as UPS, is it Line interactive ( power is passed from inlet to outlet with added Voltage regultion, then switched to inverter/bettery when utility is not present) or True on line UPS? Only 1100W in UPS mode? Should it not be able to run at 2000W when utility is not present so the 2000W inverter will be running from the battery? It is confusing to rate it at 1100W when it is used as UPS. Did you try to draw more then 1100W to find out what will happen?
Sorry Bud, I'm not a pro at UPS terminalogy. Can you explain the difference between line interactive and a true on line UPS? I think the 1100w has something to do with the 1100w charging rate but there isn't much information in the manual about the UPS mode.
I also hooked my 12 volte fridge to the ac inverter and it shut down after about 20 minutes,i clearly have a bad unit but it seems they dont wanna sed me another one as they keep telling me its normal.
I really wanted to like this unit and it would be a great unit if it was working properly or there customer service would step up and address my problem and stop giving me the run arounds
@@livingthedream1979 I tested running my fridge with a 12v splitter cable. Fridge on one side, 12v to USB adapter on the other > then I plugged in a small USB fan. As long as you have 2 watts or more it will stay powered on.
After testing both the Oukitel and the FF Power do you see any difference between these 2 units? Were the the efficiency rating for both AC and DC still around 78%?
Full review video on the FFpower on Friday this week. Big discount code too if you're looking to buy one. The FFpower is basically the same except the firmware is updated to not shut off the DC output. Same capacity and efficiency
@@Jasonoid I am, looking to buying something, but I rely alot on your testing and opinion. I do the same testing method on each unit I buy and that is with my C-pap machine. I have the Bibene CN-505 and the Oukitel CN-505 and both units perform the same, just an hour and a half from getting 5 full nights of 8 hours sleep each night. I had the Bluetti and the Eco flow River Pro and found that with the same test (humidifier turned off ) I could only get 2 nights before I had to charge them back up. I realize that the Oukitel 2000p isn't at the top of your list for efficiency, but I think it might be the Lifepo4 batteries that make a difference and seem to be great performers. Just my HO.
Yes, it would run that pump. You'd need to how many watts the sump pump uses while running in order to calculate how long it would last on the battery.
Well, after testing the Bluetti and the Eco Flow river pro and sending them packing because of there poor performance I like the idea of this unit having Lifepo4 batteries. Have you changed your opinion on this unit or are there still problems.
I'm testing the "FFpower" brand of this power station right now, it doesn't shut off the DC output which is awesome, it gets around 1500wh of real capacity, just like the Oukitel version, everything else is pretty decent.
@@Jasonoid I've been researching the differences between the Oukitel and FFpower P2001. FFpower states there is no dc auto shutoff! Hoping this is true as it can then power a dc fridge. Since you are testing it now, I was wondering if the car port output is really limited to only 4 amps? Seems awfully low compared to most at 12v/10a. It would be nice to know if it can actually safely go over 4a since the dc5521s are limited to 3a. Thanks for your amazing reviews, they are so informative and thorough!
@@katboo1187 the 4 hour shutoff has been fixed on the FFpower power station. It ran my fridge for over 24 hours no issues. It has multiple 12v outputs. 2 rated at 10amps (XT60 and 12v socket), 2 rated at 3 amps (5521).
@@Jasonoid well , the delta max , with a similar characteristics is sold by ecoflow for 2000 $ , so not sure if it's worth the difference, would be nice if can compare them one day , they are very similar
Quick question. Did you experience the unit shutting off on the AC side with loads around 60-100 or less? It seems to occur around the 20 minute mark or less. TV's seem to be ubiquitous with the phenomenon. The Kickstarter units have begun arriving and each one has reported the exact experience. I tested mine and it did the exact same thing. Not a deal breaker but something to be aware of before purchasing.
Thanks for posting this. I purchased mine a month ago to mainly use it as a UPS for my freezer. I was horrified to find out that 2 days after a quick power outage, the entire AC side had shut off and as a result, the freezer was not powered. Unfortunately, 50% of my food thawed. Luckily, I'm under my Amazon 30 day return window and this unit is going back proto.
@@Jasonoid oh missed that sorry. Great video.! And thank you! You don't think what they sent you would superior to general public units from Kickstarter.?
Upon testing my unit with a 200 watt heater the ac outlets cut off after 5 to 20 minutes,i contacted oukitel and they say that the ac outlets shut off after 10 minutes if the power goes less than 1 watt. Anything i plug into it shuts it off after 5 to 20 minutes. Frustrating because there telling me its working correctly but clearly its not. There is no way you should have to reset this thing every 20 minutes or so.
AC inverter didn't shut off on my unit, like for example, when I ran my 12v fridge off the AC inverter it cycled every 20 minutes and worked just fine. Only the DC ouput shutoff from their sleep mode. I wonder what different in your model. Try a consistent load test.
Jasonoid i did with a heater that runs continuously,it doesnt stop running unless i cut it off. The bluetti i have runs it until the battery is dead,my oukitel unit cuts off after 5 to 20 minutes.
This was the kickstarter model, since the video FFpower and Oukitel sell the same unit but with a different brand name on it. Go with the one thats priced better.
@@Jasonoid thanks. I picked up Grecell on Amazon for $1100. It’s description refers to the P2001, same specs. I’m leaving the country for 3 months and plan to plug a freezer and fridge into this; if power goes out, i hope those will be powered. If power returns, obviously it will charge and the protection will be back. MY QUESTION IS: can I add solar panels to this as well, basically having 2 charge sources going at the same time. Can this work, or are there caveats? Thanks again, Jason.
@@Jasonoid thanks for replying Jason! If it looks good before I leave for Hong Kong for 3 months, I might just get another. My question was prompted by a worry if I lost power for days and the generator wasn’t recharged, thinking the solar would charge if the grid was down. I had a MillerTech Bluetti EB200 in my cart until I saw these. Basically $400 cheaper which buys me a couple of 200w panels. Thanks again. (It’s SO nice to have a channel author that actually replies!)
@@Jasonoid now I’m wondering if I should pick up a better/bigger Bluetti or EcoFlow with more expansion (instead of a 2nd Oukitel variant). It was the UPS, or near UPS, for my described concern, but my next need in a grid-down scenario would be 220v well pump. It’s too big a dream to expect my HVAC needs met by these units.
Too bad they cranked up the price to $1500 ,cause I had planned on buying it for $1200. But I switched gears, and now I'm thinking of buying an ECO FLOW.
Jason: Great stuff! I was wondering how you can have at least 500 watts of solar with the 48v and 15a limitations? I have a 2 panel limitation, so the best I can find is 2 Newpowa 210w (19.83v / 13.09a) for 410 watts. Is there a low amperage panel (< 8a) that has high voltage (40v - 48v) so I can run 2 panels in parallel? Thanks, Jim
Great question! I plan to run 4 BougeRV 180watt panels on this power station, 2 parallel and then those sets put into series. If you want to run just two panels, you'd want to look for a 12 volt 250 watt panel with a slightly higher voltage. Rich Solar and BougeRV have panels up in the 21v to 23v area, NewPowa have lower voltages for some reason. You could then hook those two panels in series and be good to go.
Not one power station I've tested hits the rated capacity. This one is under 80% which is a little lower than normal. The Bluetti ac200p in my recent testing got 88%. Im preparing a huge spreadsheet and comparison video for all these power stations. It's going to show all this info so you can compare them very easily.
Wow have they jacked up the price since you did this video. It's now regular price of $1700.00 for this unit. A 70% price hike in 8 months. Yet again, China is raking in American dollars.
This model has been fixed! NO AUTO-SHUTOFF now, check out my update video HERE: ruclips.net/video/azy1ekZLhCo/видео.html
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I must say you do really comprehensive tests on your channel that actually makes sense. Other RUclipsrs just browse over the evaluation just rambling on to make time.
People need valuable information to make the most informed decisions. Kudos.
You are doing a good job. You are one of the few you gives very good technical specs. I'm an Electrical Enginner so I like info on the technical stuff. Kudos.
Once again, we can count on Jasonoid giving us the best rundown. Thank you so much.
Very thorough review indeed. Good job.
As I say, most RUclipsrs just ramble on and on and not getting into the important specs on the item. They just make up time.
What about the screen? Does it stays on? Does it have a sleep mode? Or a dim mode for that matter? One of the most important info I like is to load test the item and let us know also if it has "pass thru charging".
I need it to have pass thru charging as it doesn't make sense otherwise.
The screen is always on, but it does go into a dim mode to save power.
It supports pass through charging, I think I demoed that in the video as well.
Just bought myself this one. Feels like a good, solid product. Actually was not aware of the UPS function before experimenting :) pretty awesome! Looking forward to use it as UPS for next years
Have been looking for a power solution that is this versatile, and you have just shown me the ideal one. Thank you so much!
Your reviews are the gold standard. You test every single thing and do it efficiently, nice work. I was debating if I should review this post-crowdsourcing and the DC power off under low loads and overall inefficiency are making me think twice. I get this is a budget unit but still.
One tip on the Bluetti: do extensive tests of standby losses and compare it to other units. I mentioned it in my review but I’ve been doing more testing recently and it loses 1% per hour if on with all ports off. Turning AC and DC ports on on loses 3% an hour w/no loads (Delta Max is 0.85%/hr). I think it’s way too much if you want to use this for vanlife or camping where you need to power smaller loads over long periods of time. Bluetti chimed in and said they don’t rec using it unless you’re pulling over 300w minimum which makes it much more of a special purpose unit than they market it as. Sorry for the rant but it would be good to have you start testing standby losses, I’m going to do that going forward because large losses can be far worse than an inefficient inverter.
Hey Todd, your videos are also top notch! I was disappointed when I discovered the DC output autoshuts off. Most people don't test that feature out in their review videos.
Excellent information on the standby loss for the AC200P. I'll keep that in mind for my future power station reviews. I didn't notice any horrible background loss on this one but I wasn't paying attention to that specifically. There are so many things to test on these, it feels a little overwhelming sometimes haha
@@Jasonoid Yeah, very glad you tested that because the 12v output's main purpose is powering a DC compressor fridge and it's silly to ask people to attach another appliance to waste power and keep it awake. I'm surprised they weren't willing to consider changing that threshold in the firmware.
I am still learning about solar. You have made this really clear. Enjoyed the presentation. Thanks
Thanks Ce! I'll be having my introductory solar videos in the future on the channel!
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Looking forward to it..
Wow, I like this one already. You are becoming the power station king!
Hey Schteve good to see you again! I'm working on a power station grading system so one can easily chose the best option for them. Also I will be doing a full comparison video later this year! It's going to be awesome! Big plans on the works!
@@Jasonoid Good to hear! I really enjoy the new technology coming out with these power stations. We actually had a significant power outage not long ago and my stations got a work out. They are priceless. Keep up the good work.
Wow, what a thorough review. You pretty much covered everything. Thank you. The only thing I wonder is how reliable the unit is, which only time will tell. Too bad it shuts off after 4 hours with no load, but this seems like a great unit for the price. Very tempting to get this. This unit has the exact specs I need. Thanks again.
Thanks Lit! I means a lot coming from you! I now have a testing checklist for these test videos and it's very comprehensive. I have cycled the power station about 35 times so far, still performing great. Time will tell how long it lasts.
Great video and review, love how logical and well spoken the videos are. I was ready to get on board but not sure now since the DC shuts off; my main use is DC refrigerator. Feeling eco mode very much unnecessary. Why not turn this off, and add wifi and an app in the future to let the user choose?
I wish they didn't have that DC auto shutoff! Man this would be perfect without that one issue! So annoying right?! When I spoke with the Oukitel team in China over the phone they said NONE of their future batteries will have this feature. They said they didn't know people used these power stations for DC powered fridges and now they know better. I guess you can thank me for beating it into their brains so hard haha...
@@Jasonoid could you plug a low load (5+ watt device) on another DC out and trick the unit into staying on?
The Amazon model no longer has the Autoshutoff feature, it was only on the Kickstarter model and now has been fixed.
Thanks Jason! Got the BIBENE 500w after your video review and also the Delta Pro, can't believe I'm getting this again, but since I got good experience with the Bibene/Outkitel, I think this is another decent purchase and it will be more portable for short camping trip compares to my Delta Pro.
Nice! Much better than buying a APC UPS for my rack
With a 1100watts of UPS power, it certainly does a great job. I have been letting my dad use it for the last two months with his work desktop and monitor setup, it's been working really well!
This is the best review I've seen so far on the P2001. My concerns are the just over 1500wh true capacity and China based support - appearance of no US service or support. I'm not sure I trust the warranty should it fail entirely.
Very good points, you may want to look at other options. The Anker power stations should have very good warranty and support. They also have lifepo4 batteries!
In my mind, the UPS function of this device is by far THE function that I consider a MUST HAVE for anyone with computers. The UPS function is far more useful/practical & something everyone SHOULD have.
EXCEllent testing/review, you checked out everything that needs/should be tested in a review.
Having a power bank included in the same device as the UPS function is what makes this a truly desirable device.
I'll wait & pay their retail price AFTER the "Crowd Funding" phase is over & done with.
Everything I've seen that is purchased during the Beta Testing "Crowd Funding" phase is problem-prone & I'm unwilling to be forced into being an unpaid Beta Tester for this or any other manufacturer.
I strongly suspect any unit bought during this "Crowd Funded" phase will come with PROBLEMS.
Warm Regard from Reno, Nevada
Thanks for your thoughts Claimjumper! I AGREE, it's pretty awesome to have that much power in a backup battery with a UPS. Respectable to wait till it's available on amazon, It will launch within a few months on that platform. That's what they told me at least.
10ms switch probably still won't work for some sensitive devices such as some computers.
@@jayjiang another guy that reviewed it on the youtubes tried it on his laptop without a battery installed. The laptop stayed powered on and working during the swap
@@jayjiang 2 thumbs down - You're full of baloney. 10mm switch will work - NO problem!
My 12 year old APC Backups ZS1300 has an 8-12ms transfer time & my iMac & Macbook air don't even flicker when power is transferred to my APC's UPS.
You need to produce your own video clearly showing computers will turn off with this units' 10ms transfer switch
You sound like a sour-grapes employee of a competitor.
@@Jasonoid Thanks Jason, good to know about aother testing. I personally do not mind 10ms, that's pretty good compares to the 30ms on the Delta Pro but my home devices that require UPS have standard UPS batteries on them just for peace of mind, and voltage regulation. Not sure whether the bypass has that or not. Hope to see more and more UPS features being introduced to future solar stations.
A bit to expensive for me but you do a fantastic job of explaining all features and the pluses and minuses of each product.
Thanks Mike! There's lots of options based on features and sizes. I hope you can find something that will work for you!
I just received mine and am initially very impressed by the way it was packaged for shipping and the look of the unit. I'm just doing the initial charge and will try to update once I've had a chance to use it for a bit. The UPS feature was key for me.
My dad has been using my unit for over a month to power his home office off UPS mode, VERY COOL feature! His power drops all the time and this has helped him keep his home office up and running (Desktop, monitors, router, and printer)
That looks like a good overall package, with a decent price point. The size, weight and form factor are right at the upper limit of what you might call "portable", without being able to break it down into smaller pieces or chain units together. One thing not mentioned is whether or not you can reduce the AC charging from something less than "Super" charging, to reduce the stress on the battery cells. Thank you for doing a thorough review and going through the checklist of its capabilities.
The charging cannot be lowered from 1100watts, but you can charge it up using a custom DC to DC power supply to get 500 watts instead of 1100w. Something near a 36v @ 15amps would work well on the Anderson powerpole port.
@@Jasonoid - Yeah, something about charging at 1/2 of the total capacity just seems...unwise! :)
I am really torn Jason, I know you will be testing some ECO FLOWS, so I might hold out. I'm testing my Bibene CN-505 right now to find out how many nights I can go before a recharge. The monitor says I'm at 58% left and three bars still showing. So I guess that means I've used 42% in 2 nights, or 21% each night. I really appreciate your reviews and how quickly you respond to my dumb questions. I am trying to watch as much as I can of your reviews and make an educated choice ( because they're all manufactured in China ) and my main purpose is my c-pap machine ( God bless you, those who don't have to rely on this cumbersome device) and I always liked MORE POWER. Thank you again, for being such a good guy and helping us all out, in this ever changing world of electronics.
I'm just getting rumors of issues with the P2001 So pass hard on that one for now, I'll be posting a youtube shorts video about it tonight.
@@Jasonoid Thank you I will, I'm leaning toward the ECOFLOW DELTA, but the $1900 scares me! But they do seem reliable and I love the screen.
@@grh7399 I'll be having that review video in about a month I think, if you can wait that long haha.
Great review, you're a consumer report unto yourself . I'm glad I discovered your ch .
Welcome aboard!
Very detailed, thank you for your extensive testing.
That's what my channel is all about, thanks for checking out the video!
It's a pretty decent overall package with some limitations but also some bonuses. Nice middle of the road compromise on features. I really like the unit. The smaller previous model seems to be pretty good as well. Nice review. If it proves reliable, I think they well definitely be a solid competitor
Totally agree, it's pretty great at that discounted price. I'm not sure it's worth it when it's going to be priced near 1800 though.
Great review! The UPS & Pass Through charging options are key.
Thanks Jason! Those are very important features to have on a power station.
Ecoflow Delta 1300 was the first power station with ups and I hope you get to review the Delta max, river mini, and higher end units.
Hey Anthony. This is the first one I have tested on the channel, I didn't mean to state the first one ever with that feature. It's great to see companies are starting to include this as a feature for the bigger power stations.
Great reviews always 👌
Hi Jason ! Due to your inadequate, sketchy, poorly delivered evaluation of this unit a coupla' months ago I decided to add one to my collection of 'Power Stations' . It arrived a few days ago & am very pleased with the performance . . . the price ($999.) wasn't bad either . I intend to use this unit powering my light-speed doubling 'Photon Accelerator' which may be useful increasing the efficiency of Ion-drive propulsion . . . . also for decreasing communication time using light through space .
Thanks, RH
LOL! if only it produced 1.21 gigawatts of power and you modified a DeLorean, you could travel back in time and change your decision!
@@Jasonoid - I do enjoy your thorough reviews ! ! thanks , RH
Great review! Nicely presented. A few thoughts. 1. Are the USB ports considered DC? because you can get like 2w usb lights to usb to keep it on. Like $5 on amazon. 2. A big deal on this one, I think people might not realize is 15amp solar input is really nice.. most like the 200P and others only offer 10 or 12 amps. 15 Amps really help when you push the parallel connection on a sunny day (Not a cloudy day), you can really max out the watts, which is crucial since it only allows 48v input. So if you go 2s2p on some 180w or 200w panels, you can really get the best of both worlds....that being said...3. The ac200p allows for 145V, so you could easily connect 4 panels in series.......but connecting 4 panels in 2s2p on the Oukitel will make its solar connection shine. 15 Amps is really a nice addition you dont see on most solar inputs.
I agree on the solar being a good balance! My plan is to run 4 180 watt BougeRV panels in a 2s2p configuration to get a good mix of voltage and amps. I'm looking forward to a good sunny day to test it out soon, I'll do a video on it. I put all 4 of those panels in series and I didn't see very many watts on the AC200P. I don't think series connections are the best for output.
Im not sure if the USB is considered DC output becuase the they are controlled by a separate power switch. I'll have to test more.
USB-A is standard 5v DC.
Awesome video ! I do own this unit very nice just Awesome !!!
Glad to hear it's working well for you!
Great work, thanks for sharing!
GREAT video Jason!! Thanks!
Thanks ST!
Great review and looking forward to your comparison. I went ahead and ordered since I have been in the market for such a backup power supply. I hope you can communicate the need for them to ramp up the solar charging capacity on their devices. (I enjoyed the hack on their smaller generator but it should not be necessary and adds at least an $85 US cost for a MPPT charger at least one you recommended.) This would check off an important box in features that would make it competitive against Bluetti and Ecoflow products. I am sure a large segment that would be interested are doing so due to prepping issues and not some idyllic vacation in the woods. The UPS feature is definitely a step in the right direction. Also, recommend to them to add that light on their smaller unit instead of that "spotlight version" which is much less utilitarian and aesthetically speaking it can be made more pleasing but that suggestion can be ignored if they can keep the price point 50% less than the competitors. I can add stickers.
It's held up really well to my testing so far. Picking it up at $999 is a great price compared to what else you can get at that price (Jackery 1000, ECOflow Delta 1300 are priced similar).
Ooh, nice one. I'm sorely tempted. March delivery though, and doesn't include a solar charging cable unless you pay another $200 (also includes a car charging cable). The specs look great, and $0.50 /WH is a great price. Thinking...
It's been great so far for me. DC turning off is a little bit annoying but everything else was pretty good. I like the 1100w, 1500w dual fast charging!
i liked the oukitel and found there are so many brandings of it cause they are basically just generic chinese power stations with small differences. ending up getting an "Averly" cause it was the cheapest. the only difference i noticed so far is the smaller top without the cable compartment and my xt60 plug seems rated for 25A but i only had a testload off 140W so far. the dc doesnt shut off after 4h without a load but the usb does after some minutes.
ohh nice I like Oukitel products. I have a Renogy Inverter and a Battery that do this too. But it's not the first the Leoch was and that's been out 6 months
It would be great if you could program it to switch over at peak electrical cost time.
At 22:45 you say the unit comes with a 3-year warranty, but that's not what the Oukitel webpage says -- it says "Exclusive 1-Year Warranty".
That's what the marketing rep said over the phone for the Kickstarter purchase. I'll have to clarify this with them again. Sorry for the confusion Aaron.
For the price of $999 this is decent. I went with the Zendure SuperBasePro 1500 several months ago ordering it and was lucky enough to get it at $949. I'm still waiting on it though. It's a smaller battery by 500WH but the same type of battery chemistry. The features are better on the Zendure IMO. For example, 1800W 60-160V solar via MC4 to AC port plus 600W 12-60V solar via MC4 to XT60 port. There's also an EV-AC adapter you can charge it with too. If I were to make a suggestion to @Oukitel it's to add wheels with a pullout handle like the Zendure has.
I'm sure you can't go wrong with that Zendure power station! Thanks for your feedback, excellent suggestions with the wheels!
Not to bad.
Also now I want to test UPS mode on my build; however my 48v charger is limited to 130w right now. Lol also 100w usb is neat; however don't think I have anything that would charge that fast. (Endless rabbit hole)
I had such High hopes for this unit. I purchased mine a month ago to mainly use it as a UPS for my freezer. I was horrified to find out that 2 days after a quick power outage, the entire AC side had shut off and as a result, the freezer was not powered. Unfortunately, 50% of my food thawed. Luckily, I'm under my Amazon 30 day return window and this unit is going back proto.
Anytime when running your power station you want to check on it everyday, just to make sure something like this doesn't happen!
Hi Jason. My Bluetti AC200P 2000W weighs 60.6 lbs with an external power brick. You mentioned 48 lbs for the P2001 with an internal power brick.......? Something does not seem right. I'm guessing this is not a LiFePo4 chemistry. Also, I would like to see the UPS function with electronics and not a heater. Bummer on the Eco/DC 4hr issue. Thanks for the great review.
It's definitely LiFePO4, i'm guessing the weight of the components inside and size alone make it weigh less. Less quality? Maybe. I have been using this as a UPS for the last 2.5 weeks and it's been working flawlessly.
Very comprehensive review Jason, thanks! Did you have any DC voltage drop during your DC discharge / capacity test, when the DC circuit was under maximum load with the two load-testers?
Very small bit of voltage drop from the internal wiring, it's regulated at 13.6 volts so you see 13.3 volts the entire discharge cycle. Very good level of regulation.
Great review ! Perhaps they can do a firmware update to fix the ecomode shutdown, thats a deal killer for me. Good warranty! I like the Bluetti AC200P
Hey Robert, I asked if they would do a firmware update to fix the ECO mode setting and they said it would be too difficult. I was disappointed since this power station would be that much better if the DC output didn't shut off. I use the DC output a lot when camping, I'm sure others wouldn't use it as much so it isn't that big of deal.
Ya definitely a deal killer for me too, seems like a really basic feature for something like this.
I did some testing, if you use a 12v splitter and have a small constant load on one side and a fridge on the other, it stays powered on.
@@Jasonoid ah nice, good to know, thx! maybe not quite a dealbreaker then..
Greets from germany, still using the ac200p and the new ep500pro. This new powerstation seems like a good starter unit, not like the scam, natures generator for 1200 dollars 😄. But i would rater buy the ac200max cause you can expand it with 2 batterys and it has 2200 watt inverter and 900 watts solar input. But thats just my opinion
I like the powerstation, just a couple things, the bms doesn't seem to have low temp charging protection, and a higher voltage for solar charging would certainly be better, so you could have 3 180 watt panels in series, or the equivalent, 5 hundred watt panels in series...For the kickstarter price can't really beat it..I've used Eve cells to make several systems..I own the Bluetti AC 200P, 2 home made solar generators and 2 homemade off grid solar systems...Good review, except you didn't mention my two concerns, and you didn't mention if there is a setting to charge it slower, as I wouldn't want to charge that fast ever, unless an extreme emergency...Thanks..
No way to slow down charging, I gave that feedback to the company since it's stressful on the pack to always "super charge" it.
Since the amperage limit is 15amps for the DC input, you can parallel 180 watt panels AND put them in series, a 2s2p array would work well.
I don't think any of these power stations have low temp charging protection, would be interesting to test on all the power stations I have for low temp charging. Great testing idea!
Nice review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the excellent detailed review. You are giving the guy in the white coat a run for his money for the best power station reviews. I notice there is an FFPower (formerly Bibene) version of this which is a bit cheaper that I think you will be testing in the future.
Two things concern me. First, your issue with the cigarette lighter port. The four hour cutoff doesn't make sense since your fridge would cycle on and off several times during the four period yet is still shut off. Also Ozark Overland Adventures did a review and he used a Dometic fridge to compare total run time and the Oukitel ran a shorter time than BOTH the Jackery 1500 and even the Jackery 1000 which makes no sense but points to some issues to that DC cigarette port. He didn't see the shutoff issue you did. Your DC capacity test did not yield the best results either.
I'm curious if these might be resolved by the FFpower version? Anyway I going to hold off for a while and see if these issues get ironed out in later revisions of this power station
The 4 hour shutoff has been fixed on the FFpower P2001 unit for sure. The DC capacity is the same on both units since they are basically the same, just running different versions of firmware. Expect around 1500 to 1600wh of DC output, my fridge test on the FFpower unit was about 82 hours long.
My review unit was the "preproduction" unit and gave them so much pressure to fix the 4 hour shutoff. I told them I'd never review another Oukitel unit again if they didn't fix it.... Lol... They finally did the firmware upgrade so the Amazon unit should be fixed on the Oukitel P2001.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
This is an energy-saving mode of the AC output. When the power is lower than 1W, the AC output will automatically turn off within 10 minutes. You can replace the cigarette port(car charging port) to output, the cigarette port does not have energy-saving mode, the output will not be shut down automatically.
Can you accept the AC energy-saving mode?
This is the response oukitel sent me
I'm guessing my unit was a preproduction unit that didn't have that feature?! Does it mention that in the owners manual? If that is something that will not work for you, I'd fight to return the unit as they misrepresented their product in the Kickstart campaign.
Can you test the UPS function with a PC/Server/Workstation to see if the UPS switches quickly enough to keep it on?
I have used this with my desktop and monitors, it works great as a UPS.
Well done
Thanks P! Appreciate the feedback
Great review as always.
I wonder if the capacity difference between 12v and AC could be caused by the 12v regulator being ran at near full capacity, lessening its efficiency?
As for the 12V shutting off at 4hrs, possibly just turning on the AC inverter would prevent the unit from powering off?
The AC inverter being powered on uses a bit of power in standby, it might keep the DC output on but it will use quite a bit of power.
As for the DC efficiency levels it's hard to tell what's actually happening, this is what I am thinking: Anytime the DC output is enabled, it's using background power to regulate from 48volts down to 13.3volts. Maybe 15 to 25 watts, not sure the amount of power being consumed by the regulation. So a 12v device takes power from the battery (saying a 50 watt fan) but is also using other background power. So the longer its running the more background power is added. Shorten that time by raising up the load say to 160 watts and you get more power from the battery VS background power being used. I'll try giving it a test sometime and see what happens.
Loved how you rigged up the dual DC capacity testers man. Hadn't thought about doing that! haha Ive been only using 1 which always limited my DC efficiency tests to lower draws, which in bigger units such as the AC200 or B230, always yielded lower then ideal efficiencies. Genius! haha And hey when you do that next video on that AC200P unit.. could you do that draw test on that 12v/25a aviation output and also monitor the voltage during the test thru the cig port?
Couple of friends have noticed a voltage drop actually, which is unfortunate thru the DC side.. Understanding that the wireless pad on top will also always be "on" and pulls roughly 4 watts and the 3a sockets use 2watts idling as well.. we were still noticing the voltage fluctuating from 14.2v all the way down to 12.7v thru the cig port. 🤔
Hey Mike I just finished testing this on the power station, I filmed it but my video is too long so I need to cut it out. If you want to see the test results you can send me your email address and I can share that portion of the video with you. I always saw the same 13.4volts output BUT I did see some voltage drop over my wiring so I think that's what they are seeing. 100% or 20% battery, 13. 4 volts all the time.
Since RUclips keeps blocking your comment, send me an email to jasonoidllc@gmail.com
Hi, Pls forgive my ignorance (older lady with not much electrical knowledge), but is there such an animal as an ac plug that coverts to dc 12v? Then you could run a dc fridge via ac outlet. Thx for humoring me. Love your reviews by the way.
If you check out this video, the ICECO VL series come with built in AC to DC adapters so you can run them off an AC outlet just fine:
ruclips.net/video/slLEnFgPLsI/видео.html
When you tested the sine wave quality, did you check it at full load or at idle? Time 6:20 in video.
I watched the sine wave, voltage and hertz during my entire testing. Didn't see any issues.
IS IT EXPANDABLE???? GREAT VIDEO......
It's not expandable Joe, you'll want to look for another option.
at end of video, you said you were doing another video comparing the oukitel p2001 & bluetti ac200p. when are you doing that one? and if not, for just running full size fridge & freezer which one would you buy with a $250-$300 difference?
I have done a few other videos on this since this one came out:
DC output is Fixed (Newer video): ruclips.net/video/azy1ekZLhCo/видео.html
Solar Charging Update (older video): ruclips.net/video/3yzEAGLXNlQ/видео.html
The AC200p has more capacity and more solar charging input, so it would run your fridge longer and charge faster with solar panels. This does have the UPS functionality and fast AC charging if that's important to you.
Check out my grading sheet here to compare them:
jasonoid.com/powerstations/
How did you hook up the panel in series
BLUETTI YES!
Jason, have you did a test on the Anker 757 yet? It say's on their Website that they recommend you use the DC port for smaller draw items as to not draw power from the AC side, is this accurrate?
The AC inverter has background power draw when running so its more efficient to use DC output. The batteries are DC, so there is no conversion process back to AC power required when using the DC ouput on a power station.
And no, I don't have that power station.
Great review! What's this for, though? I want one but I don't know why :) Other than a UPS, is this basically for camping?
They have lots of different uses. When the power goes out it can power multiple smaller devices for a long time and power one or two large devices for a shorter time. Easily charges up with solar panels to keep these running.
My primary use is for camping to power my 12v fridges so I don't need to worry about ice. I power other gadgets like lights, fans and chargers. (I don't have an RV or trailer to do that stuff).
Unfortunately don't deliver to Australia...
I'm sorry Darren!
I just got my oupes 1100w battery and 2 100w panels for around $800 but this battery looks like a better deal!!
Should I start the return process on Amazon and order this one?
Only you can make that decision since you know how you'll use it. Both power stations should be pretty decent options. Remember the DC output turns off at 4 hours so if you're planning to use that longer than 4 hours you have to turn it on and off every 4 hours.
I like how this one has more storage and faster charging than the Oupes 1100!
@@Jasonoid thank you very much
@@Jasonoid I just start the return process, now my question is, should I order this battery with the coupon for $999 or should I wait until something else comes out?
Take a look at the Zendure SuperBase 1500 and the CTECHI ST2000. Those options should be similar to this one. I haven't tested them though so I can't say how good they are personally.
I am currently testing the Bluetti AC200P, it's better than this power station in almost every way... Except it's like $1600...so pretty pricey, that ac200p video should be out next week or so.
If you don't mind the 4 hour DC Autoshutoff, this Oukitel is a GREAT buy at $999. I wouldn't buy it for more than that though.
@@Jasonoid thanks for replying so fast!!
I will check some reviews my only plan for this is as backup in case of power outage I have a gas/propane generator but I want something for night
Which of those 2 companies do you think has a better costumer service? I was thinking of bluetiti ac200p but read some bad reviews and company doesn't respond at all I don't want to spend that much for something mess up later without any response from companies!!
Thanks for all great videos and testing 👍
Question: Can you run this in UPS mode with Solar charging but have the A/C charging kick in if the battery gets too low?
Basically I want to have my computers to be solar powered.
The UPS mode only works on AC power, however you can charge it from solar and use the AC inverter at the same time to power your computers off solar.
AC inverter just shut off after 2 days of use. Gotta figure that out!
I have the Grecell version of this. I was testing; AC plugged in, passthru to a freezer and/or fridge. No more than 284w ever. The AC inverter shuts off anywhere from 6-46 hours. The only fix is a manual power down the reboot. I bought this to power the freezer, unattended, to be a backup to my electric service. I’m leaving for months and this won’t do. DO NOT BUY. I bought through amazon and it’s not a returnable item. I’ve messaged the seller a few times with friendly but unsuccessful results. I opened a case with Amazon for a refund due to faulty product.
Great review. Quick question: I would love to have this for my small home as power goes out several times a year here in northern CA. Can I use my Pulsar 2000 watt inverter generator to charge this while it's supplying power to the home? I'm sure the answer is yes but will it charge in less than 2 hours similar to plugging it into an AC socket? This would be great to have as I wouldn't have a noisy generator on all the time. Even at 60 DB its still noticeable at night.
Yep, you can charge this off a gas generator no problem!
I am wondering if it's possible to use this while charging permanently? I am looking for a portable power station that I can use in my caravan.
the plan is to
1. plug the power station into a dedicated outlet from the shore power input.
2. Then wire a plug with a 16amp MCB and suitable sizing wiring going into the 240 caravan consumer unit.
3. possibly do similar to step 2 for 12v consumer unit (plugged into the power station 12v outlet).
why?
I would like to to use this instead of traditional house battery setup.
I want to use the sockets, receptacles already in the caravan.
I would like to use the mains power to power the caravan and charge the battery and only use the battery when there is no mains power.
I would like to be able to do this while having solar panels permanently connected and allow for solar charging while also being charged by the mains.
I would like to be able to remove the power station and easily plug the consumer unit back directly to the single mains shore power outlet coming from the shore power input.
any problems with doing this with something like this unit?
Hi Jasonoid love your shows. Question?.. You did a review on a Nekteck solar panel, a 28w. But I don't see it on your site anymore. Is there a reason for that? I actually just ordered it on Amazon today, because you gave it good reviews. Now since that review's not there,I'm curious 🤔. Hope to hear from you soon thanks. Again, great stuff 👍🏼
Sounds like a new panel to me, never did a review on that one before!
@@Jasonoid Well that's very odd. I never knew anything about Nekteck until I saw it on your channel 🤔 Anyway thanks for your reply.
Maybe you could answer my question. What solar panel will be compatible with this station?
Hey Al, this power station can take up to 48 volts charging input, so you can connect two 12volt solar panels (which actually put out 22volts) together in series. You can choose glass rigid solar panels or portable folding panels, either will work just fine.
jason, I was considering this power station but because of the 12v /4hr issue and the crowd funding early in ??? The price nearly got me ... My main purpose (need) is to have some back up power when dry camping (12volt) fridge , small amounts of microwave use, and some lighting etc. . Im considering A Generark 1000watt with 2- 100w solar panels with 5yr warr. for $1499.00 total ?? It would be nice to power house Fridge in case of power outage too. Any advice for my current needs would be Great ! Im new to the Battery power units realm, except for the heavily marketed ones like Jackery , etc. Thanks in advance !
Hey Vicky, I haven't used / tested the Generark 1000watt but if youve seen some good testing on it and no issues I bet it's a good option. That seems pretty similarly priced to the Jackery 1000. You might also want to look at the ECOflow products, they have some great options for $1000-$1500. Costco has HUGE deals on ECOflow products on their website too.
why does this model sell with two different company names on it? the oukitel p2001 & the ff power p2001?
Yes, I have seen FFPower, Oukitel and AceVolt that sell this.
I wonder if you are aware of the company PECRON. I know they have a couple units currently on the market and now a 3000W (model E3000) that is wrapping up an Indiegogo campaign. Sounds really nice but wondering how it would fair in your review.
I have seen a review of it but I haven't tested it personally. Looks to be a nice power station!
Another comment for others: the pricing is good with KickStarter but this is actually becoming normal pricing with more manufacturers making similar units now. For 1k, good price, for 2k, I won't bite.
Pricing is definitely becoming better for the larger power stations! Great changes for the future! 😊👍
I could only find a one year warrranty shown on kickstarter page versus the three year reference in your video. Can you clarify?
I guess it's one year. I was told over the phone 3 years but I'll need to clarify that with them.
HI Jason I just purchased a Oukitel P2001 and was wondering is it expandable, if so how?
It isn't officially expandable (like most power stations), but I will have a video on a DIY solution to get them more battery life soon.
@@Jasonoid Thanks a Bunch I will keep watching your site it is great, very informative !!!!!!
Made in?
Its made in China like 100% of all power stations I've tested. I'm not sure if there's one brand made in the USA right now. EcoFlow, Bluetti, Jackery, GoalZero and all the other smaller brands are all made in China.
How many KWH did you test this device to actually perform?
It's all in the video
So what unit would you prefer @ the 2000 wh range
For portable use and camping with a 12v fridge, the FFpower P2001. For home backup and powering larger loads, the AC200Max since it has expandable batteries and takes in much more solar.
So if my C-pap draws 5 watts, will this unit shut off after 4 hours?
As long as it's above 2 watts consistently it should be fine.
Could you daisy chain and increment the Wh?
This power station doesn't support expandable batteries but you could purchase more than one unit and have more capacity available. That would be quite expensive. The Bluetti AC300 support expandable batteries. Very cool feature!
Question if you run a 4 watt light from a usb, would it still shut off the 12volt power after 4 hours?
Yes, it still shuts off, I made a follow up video with a full solar demo and testing with a USB load.
I did get this to work and not shut off using a 12v cig splitter cable and running a 12v fan and a fridge at the same time. So if you have the power coming from the same socket it works just fine.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the info.
So it can be used as UPS, is it Line interactive ( power is passed from inlet to outlet with added Voltage regultion, then switched to inverter/bettery when utility is not present) or True on line UPS?
Only 1100W in UPS mode? Should it not be able to run at 2000W when utility is not present so the 2000W inverter will be running from the battery? It is confusing to rate it at 1100W when it is used as UPS.
Did you try to draw more then 1100W to find out what will happen?
Sorry Bud, I'm not a pro at UPS terminalogy. Can you explain the difference between line interactive and a true on line UPS?
I think the 1100w has something to do with the 1100w charging rate but there isn't much information in the manual about the UPS mode.
I also hooked my 12 volte fridge to the ac inverter and it shut down after about 20 minutes,i clearly have a bad unit but it seems they dont wanna sed me another one as they keep telling me its normal.
I really wanted to like this unit and it would be a great unit if it was working properly or there customer service would step up and address my problem and stop giving me the run arounds
@@livingthedream1979 I tested running my fridge with a 12v splitter cable. Fridge on one side, 12v to USB adapter on the other > then I plugged in a small USB fan. As long as you have 2 watts or more it will stay powered on.
After testing both the Oukitel and the FF Power do you see any difference between these 2 units? Were the the efficiency rating for both AC and DC still around 78%?
Full review video on the FFpower on Friday this week. Big discount code too if you're looking to buy one. The FFpower is basically the same except the firmware is updated to not shut off the DC output. Same capacity and efficiency
@@Jasonoid I am, looking to buying something, but I rely alot on your testing and opinion. I do the same testing method on each unit I buy and that is with my C-pap machine. I have the Bibene CN-505 and the Oukitel CN-505 and both units perform the same, just an hour and a half from getting 5 full nights of 8 hours sleep each night. I had the Bluetti and the Eco flow River Pro and found that with the same test (humidifier turned off ) I could only get 2 nights before I had to charge them back up. I realize that the Oukitel 2000p isn't at the top of your list for efficiency, but I think it might be the Lifepo4 batteries that make a difference and seem to be great performers. Just my HO.
@@grh7399 it's a great contender due to the features it offers VS the cost. I think you'll be impressed.
I've been trying to find information about the 3 yr warranty. Can you offer any direction where I can find it?
I must have misunderstood them over the phone, the warranty is a year long.
@@Jasonoid No worries. Thanks for the update. I appreciate it.
Would this run a 1/2 hp sump pump if the power went out in an emergency?
Yes, it would run that pump. You'd need to how many watts the sump pump uses while running in order to calculate how long it would last on the battery.
Well, after testing the Bluetti and the Eco Flow river pro and sending them packing because of there poor performance I like the idea of this unit having Lifepo4 batteries. Have you changed your opinion on this unit or are there still problems.
I'm testing the "FFpower" brand of this power station right now, it doesn't shut off the DC output which is awesome, it gets around 1500wh of real capacity, just like the Oukitel version, everything else is pretty decent.
@@Jasonoid I've been researching the differences between the Oukitel and FFpower P2001. FFpower states there is no dc auto shutoff! Hoping this is true as it can then power a dc fridge. Since you are testing it now, I was wondering if the car port output is really limited to only 4 amps? Seems awfully low compared to most at 12v/10a. It would be nice to know if it can actually safely go over 4a since the dc5521s are limited to 3a. Thanks for your amazing reviews, they are so informative and thorough!
@@katboo1187 the 4 hour shutoff has been fixed on the FFpower power station. It ran my fridge for over 24 hours no issues. It has multiple 12v outputs. 2 rated at 10amps (XT60 and 12v socket), 2 rated at 3 amps (5521).
@@Jasonoid Thanks for the quick reply Jason. That is great news! Looking forward to watching the video.
Ups should be a standard on these. No conversion but uses relay switch
Does it have any online apps presence or integration to alexa/google/apple home?
No app, wifi, or bluetooth. Check out ECOflow products for thag feature.
CAN YOU GET EXTRA BATTERIES???, OR EXPAND IT IN ANY WAY???
This one doesn't have the expandable functionality unfortunately!
what about an app with it ? like ecoflow
ECOflow definitely have the advantage if you are looking for a power station with an app!
@@Jasonoid well , the delta max , with a similar characteristics is sold by ecoflow for 2000 $ , so not sure if it's worth the difference, would be nice if can compare them one day , they are very similar
Quick question. Did you experience the unit shutting off on the AC side with loads around 60-100 or less? It seems to occur around the 20 minute mark or less. TV's seem to be ubiquitous with the phenomenon. The Kickstarter units have begun arriving and each one has reported the exact experience. I tested mine and it did the exact same thing. Not a deal breaker but something to be aware of before purchasing.
From talking to my viewers that bought one they say they fixed the 12v output shutting off but then made the AC inverter shut off earlier now? 😩
@@JasonoidThanks for the reply. I appreciate it. I'll reach out to Oukitel and see what they have to say
Thanks for posting this. I purchased mine a month ago to mainly use it as a UPS for my freezer. I was horrified to find out that 2 days after a quick power outage, the entire AC side had shut off and as a result, the freezer was not powered. Unfortunately, 50% of my food thawed. Luckily, I'm under my Amazon 30 day return window and this unit is going back proto.
@@The_Good_Life_starts_today I totally agree. Not acceptable at all.
@@latymz - Did you hear back from them and if so what did they say? Did they cripple the AC side now with auto shutoff?
Does the UPS mode work with solar?
I don't think so. If it did you could only use a 500 watt load since that's the cap for solar.
@@Jasonoid I did not think of that. Thank you!
Does this allow pass through charging when using solar to recharge?? Like during home power outage. Thank you.
Yes, it supports pass through charging. Check out the charging section of the video.
@@Jasonoid yes but he only showed AC charging
@@Jasonoid when he had solar test was just solar input with no AC draw being done. I need exactly that.
@@chadrogers3161 I'm the one who did the video by the way. It supports pass through charging on both charging options.
@@Jasonoid oh missed that sorry. Great video.! And thank you! You don't think what they sent you would superior to general public units from Kickstarter.?
Upon testing my unit with a 200 watt heater the ac outlets cut off after 5 to 20 minutes,i contacted oukitel and they say that the ac outlets shut off after 10 minutes if the power goes less than 1 watt. Anything i plug into it shuts it off after 5 to 20 minutes. Frustrating because there telling me its working correctly but clearly its not. There is no way you should have to reset this thing every 20 minutes or so.
AC inverter didn't shut off on my unit, like for example, when I ran my 12v fridge off the AC inverter it cycled every 20 minutes and worked just fine. Only the DC ouput shutoff from their sleep mode. I wonder what different in your model. Try a consistent load test.
Jasonoid i did with a heater that runs continuously,it doesnt stop running unless i cut it off. The bluetti i have runs it until the battery is dead,my oukitel unit cuts off after 5 to 20 minutes.
If mine worked like your explaining of the ac inverter i wouldnt have a problem.
Bummer. The 4 hour shutoff pretty much killed my use case.
Totally agree!
Is this exactly the FFPower ?
This was the kickstarter model, since the video FFpower and Oukitel sell the same unit but with a different brand name on it. Go with the one thats priced better.
@@Jasonoid thanks. I picked up Grecell on Amazon for $1100. It’s description refers to the P2001, same specs.
I’m leaving the country for 3 months and plan to plug a freezer and fridge into this; if power goes out, i hope those will be powered. If power returns, obviously it will charge and the protection will be back. MY QUESTION IS: can I add solar panels to this as well, basically having 2 charge sources going at the same time. Can this work, or are there caveats? Thanks again, Jason.
@@magiccarpetrider4594 yes, you can dual charge it from Solar/DC and AC at the same time for about 1500 - 1600 watts
@@Jasonoid thanks for replying Jason! If it looks good before I leave for Hong Kong for 3 months, I might just get another. My question was prompted by a worry if I lost power for days and the generator wasn’t recharged, thinking the solar would charge if the grid was down.
I had a MillerTech Bluetti EB200 in my cart until I saw these. Basically $400 cheaper which buys me a couple of 200w panels. Thanks again. (It’s SO nice to have a channel author that actually replies!)
@@Jasonoid now I’m wondering if I should pick up a better/bigger Bluetti or EcoFlow with more expansion (instead of a 2nd Oukitel variant). It was the UPS, or near UPS, for my described concern, but my next need in a grid-down scenario would be 220v well pump. It’s too big a dream to expect my HVAC needs met by these units.
Too bad they cranked up the price to $1500 ,cause I had planned on buying it for $1200. But I switched gears, and now I'm thinking of buying an ECO FLOW.
ECOflow are great! You going with the large Delta pro with Lfp batteries or the smaller delta with NMC chemistry?
Isn't this a FFpower?
Oukitel, FFpower, Grecell, AceVolt, they all have similar products, Oukitel makes them, the other companies purchase from Oukitel and rebrand them.
Jason: Great stuff! I was wondering how you can have at least 500 watts of solar with the 48v and 15a limitations? I have a 2 panel limitation, so the best I can find is 2 Newpowa 210w (19.83v / 13.09a) for 410 watts. Is there a low amperage panel (< 8a) that has high voltage (40v - 48v) so I can run 2 panels in parallel? Thanks, Jim
Great question! I plan to run 4 BougeRV 180watt panels on this power station, 2 parallel and then those sets put into series. If you want to run just two panels, you'd want to look for a 12 volt 250 watt panel with a slightly higher voltage. Rich Solar and BougeRV have panels up in the 21v to 23v area, NewPowa have lower voltages for some reason. You could then hook those two panels in series and be good to go.
😅 Why 0.50 Wt/Hr? Sense it doesn’t make the 2000 watts claimed 🤔
Not one power station I've tested hits the rated capacity. This one is under 80% which is a little lower than normal. The Bluetti ac200p in my recent testing got 88%. Im preparing a huge spreadsheet and comparison video for all these power stations. It's going to show all this info so you can compare them very easily.
Wow have they jacked up the price since you did this video. It's now regular price of $1700.00 for this unit. A 70% price hike in 8 months. Yet again, China is raking in American dollars.