Generally agree that march size is OP, but a little hard to agree with your conclusion without seeing refines. Buffs don’t really matter. Poorly built T1 keeps will still get wrecked
NOPE IT IS true T1 traps are getting whacked with increased march sizes and buffs. All gold flat refines will not help against a 7m solo march and 2k plus buffs.
I got smoked by Neo-Matrix, k44 monarch 45. I have a 2.5B power “trap” city with almost 400M t1 Cavs, with a ranged debuff of -895%. It was so sad. I had it set up perfectly and he walked right through me, no problem. Brutal. It’s crazy disheartening knowing that unless I spend $100k and keep spending, these massive coiners are gonna be the only ones left.
Oh, not to mention that this dude is 45B power, with the next closest powered monarch on their server being 2.5B. And they f*cking beat us in svs because we don’t have a whale on our server. We compete every svs and normally do really well. But knowing that there are going to be more and more servers we go up against having this kind of insane power has even some of our biggest players posting that their keeps are now for sale. Sad. Evony is ruining their game. T1 walls were the only way smaller or newer players could even compete with k40s. Now I don’t even know. Do I go to 1B t1s??!
Used to be 100M T1 was a start, 150M T1 you could take a hit and survive, but 200 to 300M would allow you to fight a long time if you healed layers and avoided rallies... and 500M T1 you were a boss. Now 400M is the bare minimum and really better to just start at a base of 500M T1. I recently took mine up to 700M. When I was recently about 600M two whales double tapped me, ranged must have taken out some layers, immediately following huge ground march zeroed me. I'm 88M Tech, K/M40, all gold flat Cav on wall gear and Lv15 Thebes.
I 0d a 3.6 bill keep this weekend for minimal losses, I'm 41 and maxed tech on it. I have however splatted big time in chalons on a much smaller keep about 1.5 bill. The key factor is the refines the 3.6 had rubbish the smaller had full cav flats on every piece of gear.
It doesn't look like the opponent had enough T1s, I watched a video of a guy recommending minimum 300m t1 cav, with Queen Bodica main wall general with all flat refines going towards mounted, not mixed and he had plenty of reports to show that it works. And of course sub city generals debuffs would help too.
I am k35, roughly 1.7b power, with T1 Defense. So far it works great. I have about 350m T1 cavs with excellent mointed flat refines. I got solo'd by k40 4 times this last weekend and crushed his 4m+ ground march with 2400% refines. I even got rallied (only the k40 and another k38) and held up fine. My power exchanges were roughly 15m loss for me, and 400m power loss for them. The rally was a 182M loss for me and 600M loss for them. T1s work of set up correctly. I haven't faced a k42 yet with 6M+ march yet but those examples you showed were not well set up defenses.
I know I have limits on what I can take a hit from but without this setup I wouldn't even be able to play. If up against a k42 or 43, I may just need to be more careful.
Yes at k35 a well made defense can hold up good up to k40 but from +k41 +3200% ground +6m march you see at all stars will not stand a chance, you will need to keep pushing tech power, finishing MA 3/4/5 it's a must to stay competitive.
@ollieskats I totally agree. I promise you I won't be going to Allstars any time soon. I'm sure I will start to see k41 and 42 soon in battlefield and Svs. My defense is in a constant state of improvement and I am under no illusions of how challenging these higher keeps will be. Just have to keep working. I will never spend enough to build out attack marches to keep pace, even with K37. So this is the next best option.
Evony will release general equipment or other items to mitigate the t1 issue. This will cost a ton of money for the coiners and Evony is set to make a lot of money. Evony loves the t1 trap as well because players spend a fortune when they run into them.
I was recently in battlefield and these guys waited until most of my guys were zeroed to rally me. After a couple rallies, I told messagd the rally setter and told him, " If you set a ground rally on me, you will splat." He sets the 20M troop ground rally anyway. And then he sends. Moments later, I message him again and told him, "I tried to warned you" 😅
I'm gonna hold off on my opinion until I see the refines. You need those flat refines to help your T1s stand strong. On my stupid server so many have T1s with poorly done refines and I say "Your work ain't done"
the game biggest cheat player and corruption alliance say the trap easy, amazing insight. try being free to play like gk and alliance and see how you do mr lisp
How do you get a march size of 4 million+ I have done everything I can think of to increase it. I am Keep level 40, I have war horn level 10. I have my rally spot at level 40 as well and my military academy to level 5 with all the siege strike research maxed out for that level. I have done all the normal academy research to increase march size as well. I have Zhang Liang as a Super Rally Spot Officer and his specialties are maxed out. I am at Regent rank. I have a full set of Freedom Civilisation gear for 30% increase, Imperial Seal is at level 5 another 30% increase, VIP level is 18, and several ideal land small buffs to march size. With all that my march size is 550000 + 2649400 which is nowhere near 4M. Another player on my server is Keep 41 and his march size is 600000 + 4262900. I don't think Keep 41 gives you access to that much of a bonus that I know of. I must be mission something.
Now everyone has couple hundred millions of t1 cavs and think they have a proper wall but 99% of them have it set wrong, mixing troop types, % instead of flats or mixed, bad debuff, etc... a well made t1 wall with 1b troops, maxed def general and +10 russian subs all gear with achae sets and good generals will still stand strong to any solo attack in my opinion.
@@GamingwitTroll power doesn't matter much, buff, debuff, march size, troop tier and tech power is what makes the difference, that's why coinners always have an advantage over f2p cause there's a line u can't cross only gathering rss ...
Yep the Increase March size and higher buffs from "bug" coiners are destroying T1 traps, even with flat refines. Just happened to me last SvS now you need a lot more, maybe T1 500m minimum just to survive, but your power lose is increased as a lot more T1s get whacked especially with a 2k buffed 5 to 7 million arch solo march.
I’m at 11B power K41 and I’m in this thread looking for low tier troop defense because these new buffs are insane. I got rallied to half my power and then soloed for the rest. That easy. 3.5k attack buffs and new march size. Do you think at this size I should go for a low tier defense?
Absolutely true. Im a k38 with awakened Boudica in 4/6 civ gear and 95% gold flat refines. With over half a billion troops i get one tapped. A friend has over a billion troops at k39. 2 rallys from a k43. The second cleared 4.5b of 9.1b power. Both of us were reined. With that said it was rallies...I'd EAT that solo 100%
Yes rallies are a different breed but I can still take 30m rallies with 2500 Archer and come out ahead about 1.3-1. anything below that is much better results and of course with reins that helps too. 35m rallies with 6-8 strong players will zero it without reins, it's not even close.
Yeah this SvS we had two T1 traps that thought they could sit on the edge of our alliance and attack the tower and let the big guy from their server kill the troops anyone sent. We zeroed both of them! 😂
Most t1 defenses are built in a sub standard manner. That's why you're seeing results again combined with the killer march size. T1 is still viable. Check out Lost's reports...he built a new 1.5B t1 Archer trap and destroyed Daemons 8M ground march I think 10-1, no reins. The truth is many people only get 50% of the way there. I see it more clearly now because I'm watchtower 37 and can see the refines. I can tell my bigs what to solo and what to rally.
I get annoyed when people call me a T1 trap... I have like the 6th or 7th best attack march on my server. I'm just as comfortable attacking as defending. People splat on me and call me a T1 trap, like dude, it's called a 1.5b player having good defense 🤦♂️
2.7 billion player got zeroed by 34.1 billion player cephalon during Svs with 7 mill range march K44 , my 150 t1 cavs were a bit more cautious after that 😂
Happy to see this honestly cuz ppl were going nuts on training t1 Cavs they made the game very boring training over 1b t1 Cavs and just setting for to be hit without doing any move now the game is back to be fun again with more buffs available killing t1 is very easy now and so only proper defense can defend well and just build up t1 and that’s it
You play a game where a lot people pay money to be stronger than you than complain about the game not being fair when they beat you? 🤦♂️ be smarter than this
@@weav8484 I am not complaining but, think about this .. K45 release and upgrading civ gear some one can reach +2500% even if you're a low coiner or whatever you won't survive... This is just broken , So its not my fault that i wanna play some online games 🤷🏽
T1s will always fail as there will always be a bigger player that can wipe you. Comments by viewers are constantly about either building more or doing everything possible to maximise your buffs. But the way this game works, there will always be ways to counter them. Just dont build them if you dont need them. They're costly and will give endless points away for free not matter how good your flats are. They only work if you're being attached by similar or lower buff players. People forget T1s are their not necessarily to prevent you from getting zeroed but to absorb the attacks and protect other troops. Unless you can build billions of them, it somewhat pointless. Better to build a well-rounded defence rather than a one-track defence and then do your flat refines around this
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Generally agree that march size is OP, but a little hard to agree with your conclusion without seeing refines. Buffs don’t really matter. Poorly built T1 keeps will still get wrecked
Flat refines make or break T1 traps
He is making just random statements no fact based….
NOPE IT IS true T1 traps are getting whacked with increased march sizes and buffs. All gold flat refines will not help against a 7m solo march and 2k plus buffs.
I got smoked by Neo-Matrix, k44 monarch 45. I have a 2.5B power “trap” city with almost 400M t1 Cavs, with a ranged debuff of -895%. It was so sad. I had it set up perfectly and he walked right through me, no problem. Brutal. It’s crazy disheartening knowing that unless I spend $100k and keep spending, these massive coiners are gonna be the only ones left.
Oh, not to mention that this dude is 45B power, with the next closest powered monarch on their server being 2.5B. And they f*cking beat us in svs because we don’t have a whale on our server. We compete every svs and normally do really well. But knowing that there are going to be more and more servers we go up against having this kind of insane power has even some of our biggest players posting that their keeps are now for sale. Sad. Evony is ruining their game. T1 walls were the only way smaller or newer players could even compete with k40s. Now I don’t even know. Do I go to 1B t1s??!
Coiner: "I can't beat t1s 😢....Evony: "Here you go buddy 😊 insert credit card here❤"........Me🙄
True story
Used to be 100M T1 was a start, 150M T1 you could take a hit and survive, but 200 to 300M would allow you to fight a long time if you healed layers and avoided rallies... and 500M T1 you were a boss.
Now 400M is the bare minimum and really better to just start at a base of 500M T1. I recently took mine up to 700M. When I was recently about 600M two whales double tapped me, ranged must have taken out some layers, immediately following huge ground march zeroed me. I'm 88M Tech, K/M40, all gold flat Cav on wall gear and Lv15 Thebes.
U need 1 billon t1 mounted and 800 millon t1 ground with 10 millon layers all troops up to t10
Omg just avoid the FAT BUG coiners
I 0d a 3.6 bill keep this weekend for minimal losses, I'm 41 and maxed tech on it. I have however splatted big time in chalons on a much smaller keep about 1.5 bill. The key factor is the refines the 3.6 had rubbish the smaller had full cav flats on every piece of gear.
Same I have 1 weird splat in chalons but it had a lot of reins
It doesn't look like the opponent had enough T1s, I watched a video of a guy recommending minimum 300m t1 cav, with Queen Bodica main wall general with all flat refines going towards mounted, not mixed and he had plenty of reports to show that it works. And of course sub city generals debuffs would help too.
Yes the number needs to increase now
I am k35, roughly 1.7b power, with T1 Defense. So far it works great. I have about 350m T1 cavs with excellent mointed flat refines. I got solo'd by k40 4 times this last weekend and crushed his 4m+ ground march with 2400% refines. I even got rallied (only the k40 and another k38) and held up fine. My power exchanges were roughly 15m loss for me, and 400m power loss for them. The rally was a 182M loss for me and 600M loss for them. T1s work of set up correctly. I haven't faced a k42 yet with 6M+ march yet but those examples you showed were not well set up defenses.
I know I have limits on what I can take a hit from but without this setup I wouldn't even be able to play. If up against a k42 or 43, I may just need to be more careful.
Yes at k35 a well made defense can hold up good up to k40 but from +k41 +3200% ground +6m march you see at all stars will not stand a chance, you will need to keep pushing tech power, finishing MA 3/4/5 it's a must to stay competitive.
@ollieskats I totally agree. I promise you I won't be going to Allstars any time soon. I'm sure I will start to see k41 and 42 soon in battlefield and Svs. My defense is in a constant state of improvement and I am under no illusions of how challenging these higher keeps will be. Just have to keep working. I will never spend enough to build out attack marches to keep pace, even with K37. So this is the next best option.
@@mge0024did you ghost your high tier mount?
Evony will release general equipment or other items to mitigate the t1 issue. This will cost a ton of money for the coiners and Evony is set to make a lot of money. Evony loves the t1 trap as well because players spend a fortune when they run into them.
I was recently in battlefield and these guys waited until most of my guys were zeroed to rally me. After a couple rallies, I told messagd the rally setter and told him, " If you set a ground rally on me, you will splat." He sets the 20M troop ground rally anyway. And then he sends. Moments later, I message him again and told him, "I tried to warned you" 😅
Last weekend SvS some our opponent have 1,5 - 2b T1 horses.
Try to hit a 400 m T1 wall with boudica on the wall with flat gear instead of % 😅
new goal 1 trillion t1
I'm gonna hold off on my opinion until I see the refines. You need those flat refines to help your T1s stand strong. On my stupid server so many have T1s with poorly done refines and I say "Your work ain't done"
Couldn't agree more. This is the issue
Factually incorrect… I will show you traps that actually takes hits from Sir Phil and Daemon and goes majorly positive…
Can you make a video about that?
the game biggest cheat player and corruption alliance say the trap easy, amazing insight. try being free to play like gk and alliance and see how you do mr lisp
@@jayc8495GK is a f2p player? Are you joking? He has bragged that his account has >$200k spend on it.
@@jayc8495why even comment when you don’t know what you’re talking about Jay? Look silly 😂
How do you get a march size of 4 million+ I have done everything I can think of to increase it. I am Keep level 40, I have war horn level 10. I have my rally spot at level 40 as well and my military academy to level 5 with all the siege strike research maxed out for that level. I have done all the normal academy research to increase march size as well. I have Zhang Liang as a Super Rally Spot Officer and his specialties are maxed out. I am at Regent rank. I have a full set of Freedom Civilisation gear for 30% increase, Imperial Seal is at level 5 another 30% increase, VIP level is 18, and several ideal land small buffs to march size. With all that my march size is 550000 + 2649400 which is nowhere near 4M. Another player on my server is Keep 41 and his march size is 600000 + 4262900. I don't think Keep 41 gives you access to that much of a bonus that I know of. I must be mission something.
At ma6/7 there is a lot of march size science
Now everyone has couple hundred millions of t1 cavs and think they have a proper wall but 99% of them have it set wrong, mixing troop types, % instead of flats or mixed, bad debuff, etc... a well made t1 wall with 1b troops, maxed def general and +10 russian subs all gear with achae sets and good generals will still stand strong to any solo attack in my opinion.
Not sure that matters anymore in evony. I have a screenshot of a report of a 6b player zeroed by solo
@@GamingwitTroll power doesn't matter much, buff, debuff, march size, troop tier and tech power is what makes the difference, that's why coinners always have an advantage over f2p cause there's a line u can't cross only gathering rss ...
Yep the Increase March size and higher buffs from "bug" coiners are destroying T1 traps, even with flat refines. Just happened to me last SvS now you need a lot more, maybe T1 500m minimum just to survive, but your power lose is increased as a lot more T1s get whacked especially with a 2k buffed 5 to 7 million arch solo march.
T1 mounted mixed with T1 ground?.... defence and HP priority?
yes, focus on mount
I’m at 11B power K41 and I’m in this thread looking for low tier troop defense because these new buffs are insane. I got rallied to half my power and then soloed for the rest. That easy. 3.5k attack buffs and new march size. Do you think at this size I should go for a low tier defense?
So many other variables. Can’t answer w only that information
Absolutely true. Im a k38 with awakened Boudica in 4/6 civ gear and 95% gold flat refines. With over half a billion troops i get one tapped. A friend has over a billion troops at k39. 2 rallys from a k43. The second cleared 4.5b of 9.1b power. Both of us were reined. With that said it was rallies...I'd EAT that solo 100%
We were both dead inside 10mins of Chalons, lol. First time that's happened to either of us
Yes rallies are a different breed but I can still take 30m rallies with 2500 Archer and come out ahead about 1.3-1. anything below that is much better results and of course with reins that helps too. 35m rallies with 6-8 strong players will zero it without reins, it's not even close.
@@kingofbytes yes I'm about the same. More than that buffs wise or rally size and I'm in trouble but my keep is holding on for now.
If you wanna send a request we can share tips. No worries if not but I always ask. I'm TecniclyAwsm from W4R on S994
Gotta see the refines
Im kinda thrilled you guys want to send ground solos at me again 😂
Yeah this SvS we had two T1 traps that thought they could sit on the edge of our alliance and attack the tower and let the big guy from their server kill the troops anyone sent. We zeroed both of them! 😂
Am I Safe from any rally with 4b mounted t1 ?
4b. I think you do well against anything but the absolute best
@@gamingaddictswithgenghis okay but could I get zeroed from good k40 rally’s not very good but good k40 rally’s
Most t1 defenses are built in a sub standard manner. That's why you're seeing results again combined with the killer march size. T1 is still viable. Check out Lost's reports...he built a new 1.5B t1 Archer trap and destroyed Daemons 8M ground march I think 10-1, no reins. The truth is many people only get 50% of the way there. I see it more clearly now because I'm watchtower 37 and can see the refines. I can tell my bigs what to solo and what to rally.
where can i find those reports?
Make than t4 wall flats work for tham to
What your main tier troops ??
15
I get annoyed when people call me a T1 trap... I have like the 6th or 7th best attack march on my server.
I'm just as comfortable attacking as defending.
People splat on me and call me a T1 trap, like dude, it's called a 1.5b player having good defense 🤦♂️
2.7 billion player got zeroed by 34.1 billion player cephalon during Svs with 7 mill range march K44 , my 150 t1 cavs were a bit more cautious after that 😂
Yeah , I noticed since 1 month ago
Most 2b players and below are at the mercies of the new match size. I have a 1.4b keep and I dear not take a solo from any of those keeps anymore
Happy to see this honestly cuz ppl were going nuts on training t1 Cavs they made the game very boring training over 1b t1 Cavs and just setting for to be hit without doing any move now the game is back to be fun again with more buffs available killing t1 is very easy now and so only proper defense can defend well and just build up t1 and that’s it
Obviously a badly built T1 trap
Those T1 traps that you’re using for comparisons are terribly weak. T1 traps! Try. Hitting a real T1 that is min 400mil T1
But 250 used to be strong
This last war i had about 120M T1 and i got zerored .. I am not a coiner and i got hit by 4 k40 keeps 🤷🏽 the game is totally un-fair anymore
You play a game where a lot people pay money to be stronger than you than complain about the game not being fair when they beat you? 🤦♂️ be smarter than this
@@weav8484
I am not complaining but, think about this .. K45 release and upgrading civ gear some one can reach +2500% even if you're a low coiner or whatever you won't survive... This is just broken , So its not my fault that i wanna play some online games 🤷🏽
So basically coiner game anymore
Sending T1 vibes lol!
😂 looking Zamolxis,Angelo servar 64+227 best trap no rabis laik in your video
Thanks for all you vi6
My advise for any low to mid coiner, or F2P just quit. Evony only wants whales that spend 100k/ month to continue playing
Stop playing Genghis! Probably a 1B k35 whereas you're K41 or above.
Yay t1 keep got f***** up 😂 now i found the way to f***** those t1 trap in my server 😂😂😂
T1s will always fail as there will always be a bigger player that can wipe you.
Comments by viewers are constantly about either building more or doing everything possible to maximise your buffs. But the way this game works, there will always be ways to counter them.
Just dont build them if you dont need them. They're costly and will give endless points away for free not matter how good your flats are.
They only work if you're being attached by similar or lower buff players.
People forget T1s are their not necessarily to prevent you from getting zeroed but to absorb the attacks and protect other troops.
Unless you can build billions of them, it somewhat pointless.
Better to build a well-rounded defence rather than a one-track defence and then do your flat refines around this
T1s don't work no more. I got rallied with range and zeroed me. Need t5s and t10s 1billion.
what do t5s and t10s do?
@@Sid_2007 what do you think?
@@Ed19859well they have a horrible power/points ratio in events so they would give the attacker a huge score 👍