ILFORD WARMTONE PAPER - DARKROOM PRINTING
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- Using Ilfords Warmtone RC Paper.
This is my first time using Ilford Warmtone MG RC Paper and I wasn't quite sure what to expect, especially as I did not have the Warmtone Developer!
So I thought I would record my first time experience using it for anyone considering using it for the first time.
I was quite happy with the result using normal print developer. The man in the Photo Shop did say that by using Warmtone Developer the paper would, naturally, be warmer than standard print developer. This is something I think I am going to have to invest in for the next time I want to use the paper but it is still interesting to see the results.
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Please make more videos like this one ! :) really interesting
Amazing video and experience thank you for the video
Thanks for watching Raed!
Oh I loved this paper.... LOVED IT!
Was interesting ...👌
I was also considering picking up some of that paper....kicking back now and enjoying the video. 😊
It's taken me years to decide to try it out Tim! I wish I'd got the WT developer as well. I have a small budget! 😣
merci tres chouette video
It seems that whatever I am thinking about, I can find your video on the subject and has become my go to source for information. Thanks a lot. I recently bought one of your sticker for my own darkroom and one day I plan on joining your channel to help support. My budget is rather small at the moment. Thanks for all you do. Really appreciate your efforts
Cheers Jeffery. Thanks for watching
Another great video. Keep them up. Warm tone debate aside...thats a great composition.
It is. Good ole photographers of the 60s
Each couple developer/paper has its own characteristic curve so you have to do test strips always. Even when you change filters.
Actually i thought that the difference between the two paper would have been higher...but from the video it’s not that high. I tested a fiber paper warm tone that looked veeery warm...and it didn’t like me much. But i guess you did the right choice. Take the warmtone developer and make a test. It is a matter of taste ;)
Great job as always!!!
I like the warmer ,
I csn see a slight push in the darkest tones and an ease in the transition of the contrasts
Love the channel 👍😄
Yes it has more punch it seems. Thanks Marcy!
A very interesting and well put together video. My understanding is the warmer papers and developers like Bromophen are a lot more subtle than sepia toning which require bleaching first.
Yeah Mark. I don't and never have liked Sepia. I'd still be interested to see warmtone paper looking a bit warmer so I'll try that WT developer to compliment it next time. There is another comment saying just use selenium toner instead.
Im liking the warmtone paper colors better
expansive paper and the developer too nice effects tho good watch cheers mate
Thanks for the video mate! I bought warmtone developer thinking it might make my prints warmer - it didn't! Will order some paper to go with it. From one south Londoner to another, keep up the good work, subscribed!
Thanks. I did the same. The paper made all the difference! How did you know I was south?
Shoot Film Like a Boss you mentioned it in the video, referring to Eltham! Accent was a give away too really ;-)
@@droidster888 Ha ha didn't realise! Good luck with that warmtoning. I'm out of WT paper and dev but it's a nice look
This was really great! I just got some warmtone paper and was about to try it but I see that I really need to get the developer too. Looking forward to seeing you next results.
Nice info video.....think I should become a patreon and see some of the other stuff as I enjoy your vids.
I SO want a grain focuser like that!!!
And I thought I'd get laughed off RUclips! So far everyone wants one Iain 😂.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss It's wayyyyy better than the shhhhh..........itty one I have!!
@@IainHC1 That's what I said about my mates dog lol (Jokes, love George)
Shoot Film Like a Boss 😍 George is awesome!! 😍😎🤘
Thank you!
The instruction sheet included with the paper mentions that Warmtone has a speed of 125 as opposed to MGIV which they rate at 200. That would pretty much match your experience in the video.
A long time ago I processed some of the warm tone paper in a developer called ID-78 with good results. This developer was not available as a packaged product, only as an Ilford published formula, and had to make it up myself.
Keep your dev times short with Warmtone paper and don't let the temperature drop below 20 degrees C, it's easy to kill the warmth.
Thanks for another great video! I really like your hands on approach. I usually print my stuff with regular Ilford RC paper but use the Rollei RPW warm tone developer. This gives me warmer prints without looking toned. Its rather subtle but definitely noticeable compared to a neutral developer. I really like that look. When you get your developer maybe you could compare neutral paper in warm tone developer and vice versa? Just a suggestion. Keep it going!
Thanks Christian. Interesting as I did have WT developer from ilford as I mentioned in the video but it didn't do nothing to regular RC paper. Keep an eye out for more toning practice vids!
I love the Warmtone paper from Ilford. I believe it gives it a slightly aged look. Some of the normal paper, seems a bit too white, almost too modern for my taste. I can get the same results with a quick bath in tea (as I saw you do) but this gives more consistent results. The only warning is if you are going to hang images side by side, the tone of the paper will be much more evident. I do not like that contrast so I have to pick and choose depending on the area of the house the images are in.
Good point Patrick! I'll make a Warmtone room 🤗
I used Foma paper for lith printing with Fotospeed chemicals. Beautiful prints.
Sounds great!
Great video! Just got my first box of warmtone paper but I haven’t cracked it open yet. I was debating whether to get warmtone developer first or use multigrade. But now I think I’ll order the warmtone developer
I would David or see other comments using selenium toner! Regular developer didn't really touch it much.
Shoot Film Like a Boss Quick update. I ordered a liter of Bergger Warmtone developer and diluted it 1+7. The result was definitely noticeable. For me it’s a pleasing look.
David Peralta-Torres Yes, I ordered the same developer. Great results.
Great video as usual. Can't believe you admitted not reading the instructions...🤭😁 RTFM
How's the toning going since then?
I've not touched it since Jason. It's more expensive WT papers. Toning is good fun though. Sepia and selenium
My benchmark Chloro-Bromide experiences back in the 60s were with Agfa Portriga Record and Record Rapid developed in Agfa Neutol WA. It follows then that when Ilford introduced "Warmtone" I was an early adopter. In my experience the choice of developer was an integral factor in the personal expression being sought after: Warmtone developer render a slight green tinge to the warm brown hue and my developer of choice was Ilford PQ Universal. Using Warmtone Semi-Matt resulted in an image that appeared to be imbedded IN the surface of the print rather than sitting ON the surface. A look not very dissimilar to Platinum Palladium.
1) You have exposure control/contrast control backwards. On your test strip, get the highlights correct through exposure, THEN look into the blacks and increase contrast if darks are not black enough (ie: no black at all )or decrease contrast if shadows are black, but block. If you control print exposure based on the blacks, what do you do if you think the blacks are not black enough, but the bright areas are already too grey? See the problem? (I have a MFA in photography from UCSD and taught B/W photo for 30 years at a college and a high school in SD CA.)
2) Warm tone developer will greatly increase the warmness -ie 'browness' - of the print. But buy in small amounts, once open the shelf life seems MUCH less than 'normal' multigrade dev.
Wondering how this warm tone paper and developer will look with portraits. Sometimes Sepia toning is a little more effect than I want
I may make a video on this Terry!
Probably 20,000 subscribers by now.
With the wealth of information on RUclips about film photography and film and cameras there’s actually not a lot of reviews about darkroom papers. I was looking for videos on illford’s “cool tone” paper actually but figured I might be interested In warm tone too.....maybe lol. Is warm tone paper good for architecture shots?
If you want it to have a warmer look.
I've printed some (expired) cooltone RC paper prints with a normal paper developer, and it was cool - as it was advertised. :D
go to ilfordphoto.com
What kind of grain focuser are you using.
Bromophen developer and Harman selenium toner (1 + 4) gives me decidedly warm tones with Ilford's warmtone paper. I find that I need to increase exposure by one stop over MGIV RC and maybe a higher numbered filter.
Thanks Mark.
I find warmtone combination (paper and developer) is quite subtle, but does indeed give a nice warmth to the printed image without really adding perceptible false colour, more a rich creamy tone. Selenium is expensive and a whole other ballgame.
Hi Stephen. Does the WT developer make much change do you know?
Shoot Film Like a Boss . The whole look is subtle. If you are sending to Ilford for dev I would say add a bottle to the order and add a fresh alternate look, which may suit the odd photo.
about 20-24 euro - but since a roll of film is about 7 euro now... So you get warm tone AND permanence...
Do you ever print on fiber paper? I'd be interested to see that process. Really enjoying your videos, keep up the great work!
Not yet Clay. Resin is a lot cheaper than fiber for making my videos and I have a small budget. I plan to do so early this year however. 😊
No difference, except washing time is VERY long.
I want to know what is difference between sepia toner effective with warm print paper. I think this will be interesting compare testing.
A selenium-based toner will make your print 'archival' - assuming you washed properly
What would happen if you print on watmtone paoer but develop in normal developer?
Once again the previous comment should be embarrassing for you, so let’s take things a little further and add some interest.
After using warm tone papers this leads many students onto basic sepia toning. So to make things quicker and easier try using a Meritol paper
Developer SE 30 available from Silverprint or Fotoimpex. This can give you variable warm blacks upto an overall sepia appearance in one operation.
Best regards, Reg Markin LRPS.
Thanks Reg. I shall research that one.
Tone in selenium for brown tone
I really don't mean this in a "snarky" way, but I don't see the point in "comparing" a warm tone paper to a normal (cool or neutral tone) paper unless you develop the warm tone paper in the proper developer to be .. well.. warm-toned. Otherwise, it was interesting to see you work, though. Thanks for continuing to inspire the use of film and silver-based materials.
That was the point. I mention this at the start of the video. I was told I'd see a difference without warmtone developer.
Hi, what enlarger is that?
It's a Durst M605
You actually DO need to develop warmtone paper in warmtone developer to print a warmtone print :-) I tried developing warmtone paper in normal multigrade developer and got the same result as you. When i mentioned this to the bods at The Imaging Warehouse in Stratford.... They showed me the error of my ways and said I needed to use everything warmtone to produce a warmtone print! And do you know what??? They were right :-)
Stratford! Used to get my car audio gear there from a industrial estate in the early 90s! Moving on, thanks for that Iain. I'm gonna need to get the dev to see the warmth!
You may find that that audio place is on the exact same industrial estate as is where The Imaging Warehouse is :-D (It is all cars on that estate). Yes, you would be better getting some warmtone chems :-) Looking forward to watching that vid :-)
It's nice, but much more expensive, alas. Also, development is less predictable. If it only looks slightly warm, something is wrong and it's not the developer.
Meritol is a Moersch product / Germany
Cheers Reg
How does Meritol work with normal MG resin paper Reg?
Have you ever tried ilford warmtone fiber paper? If not, will you try it for me?
P.s: I really love your channel :)
Ha ha. MrFredy. This is RC paper. I've not ventured into fibre yet. I can only imagine the fibre version will take longer to develop, would punch the blacks more, take ages to dry and curl like crazy! I'd love to try loads of stuff but always limited to a small budget. Little acorns Fredy! Thanks for the comment 🤗
Hi, Phil Collins ! :-)
Made me laugh 😂
Thanks for all your videos, I've been enjoying going through them. I have a blog article which compares the same image printed on Ilford neutral and warmtone RC papers, with combinations of neutral and warmtone developers, without toning, with sepia toner, with selenium toner, and with sepia and selenium - both with sepia first then selenium, and selenium then sepia, as the order of toning makes a difference. That gives twenty different combinations and you can see the results here if you wish - kevinthephotographer.wordpress.com/2017/05/29/toning-darkroom-prints/
Don't waste your time on warmtone paper, use some selenium toner.
Bader Bouta wouldn't one be better off with warmtone toner?? Selenium toning is a completely different look :)
Thanks, Interesting view. I hope we get more comments on this. I've yet to try Selenium Toner.
My bad, warmtoner I mean!
Bader Bouta You mean use selenium on the warmtone paper!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss you can do both; toner adds permanence.